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 This weapon team can be deployed in any of your movement phases with an accompanying '''SKAVEN''' unit as long as it's deployed 9" away from the enemy units. When they arrive, you have to roll a dice:on 1 or 2 you have to try again next turn   ( Unlike WHFB, in which the Weapon Team and the units could die if they failed the roll ). Remember, there are no limitations on which unit you can set up this way, so imagine to do that with your Verminlord(No, you can't take verminlord since they do not have the SKAVEN keyword), or a powerful unit of Stormvermin. You have to think before the game starts what are you going to do, but the results can be very devastating if used well. The units also can't move, but they can charge, so if you're lucky you can attack almost immediately. Also, the 2 attacks of the crew and the 4+/3+/-2/3 attack of the drill are nothing to spit at, but don't rely on them, because the Warp Grinder has a pretty bad Save of 6+.
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 This weapon team can be deployed in any of your movement phases with an accompanying '''SKAVEN''' unit as long as it's deployed 9" away from the enemy units. When they arrive, you have to roll a dice:on 1 or 2 you have to try again next turn   ( Unlike WHFB, in which the Weapon Team and the units could die if they failed the roll ). Remember, there are no limitations on which unit you can set up this way, so imagine to do that with your Verminlord(No, you can't take verminlord since they do not have the SKAVEN keyword), or a powerful unit of Stormvermin. You have to think before the game starts what are you going to do, but the results can be very devastating if used well. The units also can't move, but they can charge, so if you're lucky you can attack almost immediately. Also, the 2 attacks of the crew and the 4+/3+/-2/3 attack of the drill are nothing to spit at, but don't rely on them, because the Warp Grinder has a pretty bad Save of 6+.
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	'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.		'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.
	* Generals Handbook 2018 decreased the max size of a stormvermin unit from 40 to 30! AND fucked them in the ass hard for their points. Instead of getting a discount for taking a squad of 30, you have to pay an 80 more points to do it with no additional benefit. They can still outnumber anything they want to kill, just be aware it's now a lot more costly for them to try do that (you might even be better off just getting 2 units of 20 so that you don't have to pay the increased amount).

			* Generals Handbook 2018 decreased the max size of a stormvermin unit from 40 to 30! AND fucked them in the ass hard for their points. Instead of getting a discount for taking a squad of 30, you have to pay an 80 more points to do it with no additional benefit. They can still outnumber anything they want to kill, just be aware it's now a lot more costly for them to try do that (you might even be better off just getting 2 units of 20 so that you don't have to pay the increased amount). This has since been FAQ'd to be back to 40 at 500 points.

	'''Skavenslaves:''' Not in the grand alliance book but they still have the Verminus keyword. With a massive bravery 3 and 6+ save, they're gonna die. A lot. Slaves are your only source of ranged attacks in Verminus though their 9" 5+/5+/-/1 slings are well, garbage and they stop you from taking melee weapons or the shield. Like clanrats they have the option of spears or hand weapons, giving you either 1 6+/4+/-/1 attack or 2 5+/4+/-/1 attacks, so when I say option I mean, take the hand weapons for the great horned rat's sake. Unlike clanrats, their maximum squad size is 60, not 40. Also unlike clanrats, they gain nothing more than the standard +1 to bravery per 10 for having big units. Instead, they get a rule where for every one that flees you can roll a dice and on a 6+ they cause a mortal wound on the nearest unit within 6" (note this includes your own units). Potentially of use as a suicide squad or for fun games but otherwise consider that a skavenslave costs one point '''more''' than a clanrat each and a minimum size squad costs the same as a minimum size squad of stormvermin and they're not even battleline.		'''Skavenslaves:''' Not in the grand alliance book but they still have the Verminus keyword. With a massive bravery 3 and 6+ save, they're gonna die. A lot. Slaves are your only source of ranged attacks in Verminus though their 9" 5+/5+/-/1 slings are well, garbage and they stop you from taking melee weapons or the shield. Like clanrats they have the option of spears or hand weapons, giving you either 1 6+/4+/-/1 attack or 2 5+/4+/-/1 attacks, so when I say option I mean, take the hand weapons for the great horned rat's sake. Unlike clanrats, their maximum squad size is 60, not 40. Also unlike clanrats, they gain nothing more than the standard +1 to bravery per 10 for having big units. Instead, they get a rule where for every one that flees you can roll a dice and on a 6+ they cause a mortal wound on the nearest unit within 6" (note this includes your own units). Potentially of use as a suicide squad or for fun games but otherwise consider that a skavenslave costs one point '''more''' than a clanrat each and a minimum size squad costs the same as a minimum size squad of stormvermin and they're not even battleline.

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	*'''Skaven Warlord:''' Your standard hero with 5 wounds, a 4+ save (3+ against damage 1 attacks) and 3 weapon options, either a warp-forged blade that gives him 3 3+/3+/-2/D3 attacks, a halberd and a barbed blade which gives him 3 3+/3+/-1/1 attacks and 6 3+/4+/-/1 attacks, or two barbed blades which gives him the latter profile and re-rolls of 1 to hit. Don't even bother with the twin blades and take the halberd its the most reliable. Not that you actually want this guy in close combat as his true worth is his command ability which lets you pick a '''VERMINUS''' unit within 13" and give it an extra attack with each of its melee weapons. This is an amazing command ability for your rat horde as it gives your clanrats 100% increased damage output and your stormvermin 50% increased damage output.		*'''Skaven Warlord:''' Your standard hero with 5 wounds, a 4+ save (3+ against damage 1 attacks) and 3 weapon options, either a warp-forged blade that gives him 3 3+/3+/-2/D3 attacks, a halberd and a barbed blade which gives him 3 3+/3+/-1/1 attacks and 6 3+/4+/-/1 attacks, or two barbed blades which gives him the latter profile and re-rolls of 1 to hit. Don't even bother with the twin blades and take the halberd its the most reliable. Not that you actually want this guy in close combat as his true worth is his command ability which lets you pick a '''VERMINUS''' unit within 13" and give it an extra attack with each of its melee weapons. This is an amazing command ability for your rat horde as it gives your clanrats 100% increased damage output and your stormvermin 50% increased damage output.

	*'''Skaven Chieftain with Battle Standard:''' Not in the grand alliance book but <s> they still have the Verminus keyword.</s> With the recent changes to the Skaven rules, he got rather nerfed. He is still 6" move, 5 wounds a 4+ save (~~have~~ a banner instead of clan shield), 4 3+/3+/-/1 attacks '''BUT''' he no lost his banner of ~~all mighty~~ 13 awesomeness ''(for a recap 13" bubble of no battleshock tests and re-~~reroll~~ 1's to hit for models with the SKAVEN keyword)'' . Now he ~~poses~~ a Banner with 10" ~~4+ 1 mortal wound on ''every'' enemy model every your Hero~~'s ~~face~~. ~~So if not picked immediately~~, ~~he can do rather well~~ on ~~his own, and~~ the 4+ ~~aoe will hurt~~.~~... but it~~ is ~~still 140p can~~ be ~~used elsewhere so caution is advised~~		*'''Skaven Chieftain with Battle Standard:''' Not in the grand alliance book but <s> they still have the Verminus keyword.</s> With the recent changes to the Skaven rules, he got rather nerfed. He is still 6" move, 5 wounds a 4+ save (has a banner instead of clan shield), 4 3+/3+/-/1 attacks '''BUT''' he no lost his banner of 13" awesomeness ''(for a recap, 13" bubble of no battleshock tests and re-rerollable 1's to hit for models with the SKAVEN keyword)'' . Now he has a Banner with 10" range (but only when it's planted). In your hero phase Roll a d6 for each enemy unit within range, causing 1 mortal wound on the unit if you roll a 4+. He went from great to shit and the only reason to take him is if you think the odd chance might come up that your general will have only 1 wound left, be within 1" of this guy, and you really want to keep your general's command ability.

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	* Generals Handbook 2017 increased the min size of a clanrat unit to 20 so you now only have 2 options units of 20 and units of 40.		* Generals Handbook 2017 increased the min size of a clanrat unit to 20 so you now only have 2 options units of 20 and units of 40.
	** '''Units of 20:''' You won't be having that +1 to wound bonus for very long if you're facing an army with any ranged at all so don't count on it. Take hand weapons on them and run them out ahead of your other stuff and send them on suicide missions into enemy territory. They're generally not big enough to be seen as threatening and can easily survive a turn of close combat with small Liberator-profile units. use their +2" to run and retreat and their ability to charge after retreating to infiltrate enemy lines and maybe get some charges on backline enemy heroes or squishy ranged units. But be smart with them or they will die for nothing.		** '''Units of 20:''' You won't be having that +1 to wound bonus for very long if you're facing an army with any ranged at all so don't count on it. Take hand weapons on them and run them out ahead of your other stuff and send them on suicide missions into enemy territory. They're generally not big enough to be seen as threatening and can easily survive a turn of close combat with small Liberator-profile units. use their +2" to run and retreat and their ability to charge after retreating to infiltrate enemy lines and maybe get some charges on backline enemy heroes or squishy ranged units. But be smart with them or they will die for nothing.
	** '''Units of 40:''' Massive Regiment discount + strength in numbers bonuses = 5 point models with 1" 3+/3+/-/1 attacks or 2" 4+/3+/-/1 attacks. That's pretty nasty. Double the amount of attacks 10 liberators get for the same price~~. Take half spears and half hand weapons to ensure maximum quality and quantity of attacks~~. Boosting a unit of 40 clanrats with a warlord makes them much ~~killer~~ than anyone expects.		** '''Units of 40:''' Massive Regiment discount + strength in numbers bonuses = 5 point models with 1" 3+/3+/-/1 attacks or 2" 4+/3+/-/1 attacks. That's pretty nasty. Double the amount of attacks 10 liberators get for the same price. Boosting a unit of 40 clanrats with a warlord makes them much killier than anyone expects.

	'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.		'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.

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	'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.		'''Stormvermin:''' (Battleline with VERMINUS allegiance) Stormvermin are your elite infantry and they're a lot better than you might expect. For over double the cost of a clanrat they get +1 save (with the same shields so 4+ vs Damage 1), +1 bravery and trade their spears and blades for halberds with which they make 2 2" 4+/3+/-1/1 attacks each. In addition, they have a rule which gives them +1 to their hit rolls if they target a unit with fewer models which makes them ideal for killing enemy elite infantry and monsters.
	* Generals Handbook ~~2017 increased~~ the max size of a stormvermin unit from 30 ~~to 40~~! AND ~~you get~~ a ~~60 point~~ discount for taking ~~squads~~ of ~~40! SO! TAKE! SQUADS! OF! 40!~~ They~~'ll~~ outnumber ~~almost everything from the get-go. Congratulations~~, ~~you have~~ a ~~unit~~ for ~~40 Swordmasters with~~ 2~~" range for~~ the ~~price of 25 Swordmasters~~.		* Generals Handbook 2018 decreased the max size of a stormvermin unit from 40 to 30! AND fucked them in the ass hard for their points. Instead of getting a discount for taking a squad of 30, you have to pay an 80 more points to do it with no additional benefit. They can still outnumber anything they want to kill, just be aware it's now a lot more costly for them to try do that (you might even be better off just getting 2 units of 20 so that you don't have to pay the increased amount).

	'''Skavenslaves:''' Not in the grand alliance book but they still have the Verminus keyword. With a massive bravery 3 and 6+ save, they're gonna die. A lot. Slaves are your only source of ranged attacks in Verminus though their 9" 5+/5+/-/1 slings are well, garbage and they stop you from taking melee weapons or the shield. Like clanrats they have the option of spears or hand weapons, giving you either 1 6+/4+/-/1 attack or 2 5+/4+/-/1 attacks, so when I say option I mean, take the hand weapons for the great horned rat's sake. Unlike clanrats, their maximum squad size is 60, not 40. Also unlike clanrats, they gain nothing more than the standard +1 to bravery per 10 for having big units. Instead, they get a rule where for every one that flees you can roll a dice and on a 6+ they cause a mortal wound on the nearest unit within 6" (note this includes your own units). Potentially of use as a suicide squad or for fun games but otherwise consider that a skavenslave costs one point '''more''' than a clanrat each and a minimum size squad costs the same as a minimum size squad of stormvermin and they're not even battleline.		'''Skavenslaves:''' Not in the grand alliance book but they still have the Verminus keyword. With a massive bravery 3 and 6+ save, they're gonna die. A lot. Slaves are your only source of ranged attacks in Verminus though their 9" 5+/5+/-/1 slings are well, garbage and they stop you from taking melee weapons or the shield. Like clanrats they have the option of spears or hand weapons, giving you either 1 6+/4+/-/1 attack or 2 5+/4+/-/1 attacks, so when I say option I mean, take the hand weapons for the great horned rat's sake. Unlike clanrats, their maximum squad size is 60, not 40. Also unlike clanrats, they gain nothing more than the standard +1 to bravery per 10 for having big units. Instead, they get a rule where for every one that flees you can roll a dice and on a 6+ they cause a mortal wound on the nearest unit within 6" (note this includes your own units). Potentially of use as a suicide squad or for fun games but otherwise consider that a skavenslave costs one point '''more''' than a clanrat each and a minimum size squad costs the same as a minimum size squad of stormvermin and they're not even battleline.