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Allied Armies

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	**'''Kurnoth Hunters''' for some of the best elite troops in the game. Boost with '''Arch-Revenant''' if you've got the points spare.		**'''Kurnoth Hunters''' for some of the best elite troops in the game. Boost with '''Arch-Revenant''' if you've got the points spare.
	**'''spite-revenants''' can be the shock infantry unit that wanderers need. Get an archrevenant for one extra attack and exterminate light infantry on your path. Also good as a general ally.		**'''spite-revenants''' can be the shock infantry unit that wanderers need. Get an archrevenant for one extra attack and exterminate light infantry on your path. Also good as a general ally.
	**'''Warsong Revenant''' Overcosted and some of its abilities ~~dont~~ work outside of Sylvaneth, but its got a 4+ ward save and it knows every spell in the Lore of the Deepwood. Might be worth considering depending on how many Sylvaneth units you're taking in your Living City army.		**'''Warsong Revenant''' Overcosted and some of its abilities don't work outside of Sylvaneth, but its got a 4+ ward save and it knows every spell in the Lore of the Deepwood. Might be worth considering depending on how many Sylvaneth units you're taking in your Living City army.

	*'''Lumineth Realm-Lords''': ''Taken as non-allied in Settler's Gain.'' High quality units that put yours to shame. Just what'd you expect from aelves.		*'''Lumineth Realm-Lords''': ''Taken as non-allied in Settler's Gain.'' High quality units that put yours to shame. Just what'd you expect from aelves.

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City builds

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	*'''Hammerhal:''' the CP Generator. Along with getting artifacts from either realm, for each unit (they will have a banner) you can gain CP. Freeguild and Covens benefit greatly for having piles of CP to burn.		*'''Hammerhal:''' the CP Generator. Along with getting artifacts from either realm, for each unit (they will have a banner) you can gain CP. Freeguild and Covens benefit greatly for having piles of CP to burn.

	*'''Anvilgard:''' gives treats to Dark elf monsters (Dragon/Kharibdyss/War Hydra). Flying wizards and Sisters of the Thorn are great at delivering their close-range spells. Black dealing lets you build have more equipment or cp. Their Unique CA also lend well to hoards as you can spend 1 cp + slay a model, preferably on a big brick of 40, to create a massive ignore battleshock aura. A noticable combo here is a Sorceress on BD with two casters with spell portal and vitrolic spray. Step 1: cast spell portal near sorceress and caster number 2. Step 2: cast vitrolic spray on anything you ~~dont~~ like. Step 3: cast Storm of blades from your sorceress. Conclusion: About 9 mortal wounds and a crying opponent.		*'''Anvilgard:''' gives treats to Dark elf monsters (Dragon/Kharibdyss/War Hydra). Flying wizards and Sisters of the Thorn are great at delivering their close-range spells. Black dealing lets you build have more equipment or cp. Their Unique CA also lend well to hoards as you can spend 1 cp + slay a model, preferably on a big brick of 40, to create a massive ignore battleshock aura. A noticable combo here is a Sorceress on BD with two casters with spell portal and vitrolic spray. Step 1: cast spell portal near sorceress and caster number 2. Step 2: cast vitrolic spray on anything you don't like. Step 3: cast Storm of blades from your sorceress. Conclusion: About 9 mortal wounds and a crying opponent.

	*'''Tempest's Eye:''' the city for fast, hit harder bastards. Personally, an all-out cavalry list can be quite devastating with this city, thanks to his bonuses in the first round. The faster you get into melee, the better, this is also extremely easy if you get the command trait and artifact who give you the +1 at the charge and the ability to re-roll the charge rolls without command points. it's up to you which kind of cavalry you want. Dark riders and outriders are light, skirmish units good for shooting afar, demigryph and drakespawn knights can deal devastating charge, helped by the Stormcast's monsters-riders like fulminators. Technology vehicles are also good, going from gyrocopters to arkhanaut airships. You also get good spells who are perfect for a celestial hurricanum with battlemage (aura of glory just behind a band of drakespawn? Yes, please!) good monsters like black dragon or hippogryph can take out the enemy's monsters, and a band of pistolers for charge right where the enemy shows a weak point, for destroying his lines. At least, if you want a band of objective grabbers, flagellants are what you need. Just remember, outflanking and outmaneuvering are the keywords of this army.		*'''Tempest's Eye:''' the city for fast, hit harder bastards. Personally, an all-out cavalry list can be quite devastating with this city, thanks to his bonuses in the first round. The faster you get into melee, the better, this is also extremely easy if you get the command trait and artifact who give you the +1 at the charge and the ability to re-roll the charge rolls without command points. it's up to you which kind of cavalry you want. Dark riders and outriders are light, skirmish units good for shooting afar, demigryph and drakespawn knights can deal devastating charge, helped by the Stormcast's monsters-riders like fulminators. Technology vehicles are also good, going from gyrocopters to arkhanaut airships. You also get good spells who are perfect for a celestial hurricanum with battlemage (aura of glory just behind a band of drakespawn? Yes, please!) good monsters like black dragon or hippogryph can take out the enemy's monsters, and a band of pistolers for charge right where the enemy shows a weak point, for destroying his lines. At least, if you want a band of objective grabbers, flagellants are what you need. Just remember, outflanking and outmaneuvering are the keywords of this army.

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	<big>'''Leaders'''</big>		<big>'''Leaders'''</big>
	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos_steamtank_eng.pdf Steam Tank with Commander]''' ({{color\|SlateGray\|Ironweld Arsenal}}, 230pts): The key to Steam Tank battleline and smashing that max behemoth limit (as per core FAQ Dec 2019, battleline units do not count towards behemoth limits). Adding him onto the heaving tank gives you two nice guns and a decidedly shite melee weapon. He's also ~~the tank's sole means~~ of healing ~~(so long as you don't use "More Pressure!")~~ His CA lets you mark a single target so all your nearby tankbros can blast the shit outta that target a little faster.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos_steamtank_eng.pdf Steam Tank with Commander]''' ({{color\|SlateGray\|Ironweld Arsenal}}, 230pts): The key to Steam Tank battleline and smashing that max behemoth limit (as per core FAQ Dec 2019, battleline units do not count towards behemoth limits). Adding him onto the heaving tank gives you two nice guns and a decidedly shite melee weapon. He's also has his own internal source of healing without a Cogsmith, magic or being from a Ironweld synergistic city. His CA lets you mark a single target so all your nearby tankbros can blast the shit outta that target a little faster.

	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos_cogsmith_eng.pdf Cogsmith]''' ({{color\|SlateGray\|Ironweld Arsenal}}, 60pts): The poor man's HQ. Don’t let that fool you though; this guy is arguably more useful than the Steam Tank Commander. While always equipped with some pistols he can slap within melee, the rest of his loadout is what impacts his usefulness. Taking the Grudge-Raker gives him a shotgun, while dropping it adds +1 to his melee attacks, while the Cog Axe gives him a bundle of attacks or a +1 to hit with the shooting. In any case, he lacks a Command Ability, instead of using the Hero Phase to let heal a nearby {{AOSKeyword\|Ironweld Arsenal War Machine}}, indeed your only way to preserve those precious steamtanks.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos_cogsmith_eng.pdf Cogsmith]''' ({{color\|SlateGray\|Ironweld Arsenal}}, 60pts): The poor man's HQ. Don’t let that fool you though; this guy is arguably more useful than the Steam Tank Commander. While always equipped with some pistols he can slap within melee, the rest of his loadout is what impacts his usefulness. Taking the Grudge-Raker gives him a shotgun, while dropping it adds +1 to his melee attacks, while the Cog Axe gives him a bundle of attacks or a +1 to hit with the shooting. In any case, he lacks a Command Ability, instead of using the Hero Phase to let heal a nearby {{AOSKeyword\|Ironweld Arsenal War Machine}}, indeed your only way to preserve those precious steamtanks.

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City Allegiance: {{color|DarkCyan|Hammerhal}} (Aqshy or Ghyran)

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	<big>'''{{color\|DarkCyan\|Command Traits}}'''</big>		<big>'''{{color\|DarkCyan\|Command Traits}}'''</big>
	#'''~~Academiate~~ Prodigy''': Add 1 to attack characteristic of melee weapons. Also start the game with an extra command point.		#'''Acadamae Prodigy''': Add 1 to attack characteristic of melee weapons. Also start the game with an extra command point.
	#'''Blood of the twelve''': Reroll wound rolls of 1 for melee attacks made by friendly units wholly within 12" of the general.		#'''Blood of the twelve''': Reroll wound rolls of 1 for melee attacks made by friendly units wholly within 12" of the general.
	#'''Aggressive General''': Add 1 to hit for melee attacks made by friendly units wholly within 12" of the general if this general made a charge move in the same turn. Since it doesn't say round, it's only ''your player turn'': YOU are aggressive.		#'''Aggressive General''': Add 1 to hit for melee attacks made by friendly units wholly within 12" of the general if this general made a charge move in the same turn. Since it doesn't say round, it's only ''your player turn'': YOU are aggressive.

	<big>'''{{color\|DarkCyan\|Artefacts Of Power}}'''</big>		<big>'''{{color\|DarkCyan\|Artefacts Of Power}}'''</big>
	#'''~~Armor~~ of ~~Malice~~''': Add 1 to save rolls of the bearer.		#'''Armour of Mallus''': Add 1 to save rolls of the bearer.
	#'''Saint's Blade''': Pick 1 melee weapon of the bearer, improve its rend by 1. While the bearer is within 6" of an objective marker, add 1 to damage inflicted by the weapon.		#'''Saint's Blade''': Pick 1 melee weapon of the bearer, improve its rend by 1. While the bearer is within 6" of an objective marker, add 1 to damage inflicted by the weapon.
	#*Those high-number-of-attacks but low rend or damage 1 attacks on your characters? They've just become really good on your mobile griffon general or dragon-riding dark elf. It makes me want to take 5 attack sword or 4 attacks lance instead of 3 attacks great weapon in order to double down on the damage potential.		#*Those high-number-of-attacks but low rend or damage 1 attacks on your characters? They've just become really good on your mobile griffon general or dragon-riding dark elf. It makes me want to take 5 attack sword or 4 attacks lance instead of 3 attacks great weapon in order to double down on the damage potential.

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City Allegiance: {{color|MediumPurple|Anvilgard}} (Aqshy)

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	===City Allegiance: {{color\|MediumPurple\|Anvilgard}} (Aqshy)===		===City Allegiance: {{color\|MediumPurple\|Anvilgard}} (Aqshy)===
	The Tortuga of the Mortal Realms. Currently conquered and renamed Har Kuron but remains playable, as you either play the city in a time before Morathi's coup or ~~take on the role~~ of the resistance movement ~~of Sigmar loyalists~~.		The Tortuga of the Mortal Realms. Currently conquered and renamed Har Kuron in lore, but remains playable as you either play the city in a time before Morathi's coup or members of the Sigmar loyalists' resistance movement after the coup.
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1d4chan>Korvalus: /* Allied Armies */ Adding point for Hammerhal

2022-02-03T18:30:18Z

Allied Armies: Adding point for Hammerhal

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	*If you're playing Hammerhal allegiance, remember that Aventis Firestrike provides an extra CP and* is thematic, being the city's magister and whatnot. Of course, you lose out on a Warlord trait, and he can't use his command ability unless you've taken any more Hammers of Sigmar named characters.		*If you're playing Hammerhal allegiance, remember that Aventis Firestrike provides an extra CP and* is thematic, being the city's magister and whatnot. Of course, you lose out on a Warlord trait, and he can't use his command ability unless you've taken any more Hammers of Sigmar named characters.
	**When playing as Greywater Fastness a Lord-Ordinator or two is pretty much required, as a +1 to all your War Machines' hit rolls in a passive aura is too good to pass up.		**When playing as Greywater Fastness a Lord-Ordinator or two is pretty much required, as a +1 to all your War Machines' hit rolls in a passive aura is too good to pass up.
			** For Hammerhal, the new Vindictors and Vanquishers are particularly attractive. Not only they are respectable units, but also their standard bearers counts towards Banners Held High.

	*'''Daughters of Khaine''':		*'''Daughters of Khaine''':

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Strategies and Lists

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	'''who got the guts?!'''		'''who got the guts?!'''
	An army based on enemy battleshock, so better not use it against ~~ossiarch~~ and ~~fyreslayer~~. Play a kharibdyss on anvilgard for getting the -2 bravery bubble who get together with its passive ability, going to a -3 12" bubble. Now, take an horrorgast endless spell (or a gravetide for spare points and money) adding a -2(1) together. For end all of this, a battlemage coming from shysh for his unique spell -2 to a specific unit and darks riders for shoots and -1 around them. You now have more enemy units under a sure -6(5) that can influence more units and a -2 that you can add at a enemy unit that you hate in a peculiar way. Positioning is the key of this strategy. Now you just need some good shooting (hellstorm or crossbowmen) for make inflict casualties at more units at once. Look at your enemy when he have to do a terrible battleshock test with elites units like stomcast, ogor, troll or when he know that his hordes models are going to desert in mass. (it's easy to give a dark elves theme at this army. Remember that other units, mercenaries and allies influenced bravery as well) (also wizards who would get benefits from low bravery characteristic, like a lord-exorcist on balewind vortex)		An army based on enemy battleshock, so better not use it against fyreslayers and Death armies - especially Ossiarch. Play a kharibdyss on anvilgard for getting the -2 bravery bubble who get together with its passive ability, going to a -3 12" bubble. Now, take an horrorgast endless spell (or a gravetide for spare points and money) adding a -2(1) together. For end all of this, a battlemage coming from shysh for his unique spell -2 to a specific unit and darks riders for shoots and -1 around them. You now have more enemy units under a sure -6(5) that can influence more units and a -2 that you can add at a enemy unit that you hate in a peculiar way. Positioning is the key of this strategy. Now you just need some good shooting (hellstorm or crossbowmen) for make inflict casualties at more units at once. Look at your enemy when he have to do a terrible battleshock test with elites units like stomcast, ogor, troll or when he know that his hordes models are going to desert in mass. (it's easy to give a dark elves theme at this army. Remember that other units, mercenaries and allies influenced bravery as well) (also wizards who would get benefits from low bravery characteristic, like a lord-exorcist on balewind vortex)

	Addendum: Bravery debuffing is good, but how can we really maximize this? The Tenebrous Court mercenary company. This company lets you bring FEC units as allies. The magic trick here is Crypt Flayers, who have a shooting attack that does MWs based on a Bravery contest. At 2000 points, that's either two units of three or one unit of six. We can offset the turn 1 CP loss for bringing a mercenary company with one of the Anvilgard allegiance ability choices, giving us d3 extra CP at the start of the game. Getting all the pieces set up on the battlefield to pull this off will be the challenge, but since the Flayers are doing this in the shooting phase, your opponent can't use his own CP to protect the unit. '''As of GHB 2020, it's questionable if this is still a legal strategy. The Mercenary options were removed from the Warscroll Builder and weren't brought forward into the new GHB. However, Tenebrous Court is also in Forbidden Power, so technically the rules are still valid?'''		Addendum: Bravery debuffing is good, but how can we really maximize this? The Tenebrous Court mercenary company. This company lets you bring FEC units as allies. The magic trick here is Crypt Flayers, who have a shooting attack that does MWs based on a Bravery contest. At 2000 points, that's either two units of three or one unit of six. We can offset the turn 1 CP loss for bringing a mercenary company with one of the Anvilgard allegiance ability choices, giving us d3 extra CP at the start of the game. Getting all the pieces set up on the battlefield to pull this off will be the challenge, but since the Flayers are doing this in the shooting phase, your opponent can't use his own CP to protect the unit. '''As of GHB 2020, it's questionable if this is still a legal strategy. The Mercenary options were removed from the Warscroll Builder and weren't brought forward into the new GHB. However, Tenebrous Court is also in Forbidden Power, so technically the rules are still valid?'''

1d4chan>Flufflion: /* Cons */

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Cons

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	*Came at the cost of mass squatting, particularly of old [[High Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)\|High Elves]] [[Lumineth Realm Lords\|(<s>no longer an issue</s> still no more dragons, lions, eagles, and a long etc.)]].		*Came at the cost of mass squatting, particularly of old [[High Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)\|High Elves]] [[Lumineth Realm Lords\|(<s>no longer an issue</s> still no more dragons, lions, eagles, and a long etc.)]].
	*A lot of remaining factions lost their units, like the Devoted of Sigmar losing Warrior-Priests, Witch Hunters, and the War-Altar.		*A lot of remaining factions lost their units, like the Devoted of Sigmar losing Warrior-Priests, Witch Hunters, and the War-Altar.
	*Locked into City allegiance and their associated realms of Aqshy, Ghyran, or (in one case) Ulgu. Must "Counts As" if your units aren't up to code, and tough luck if you wanted Realm artefacts from elsewhere (MUCH less significant after GHB20 where the Malign Sorcery Artefacts were taken off the menu).		*Locked into City allegiance and their associated realms of Aqshy, Ghyran, or (in one case each) Hysh and Ulgu. Must "Counts As" if your units aren't up to code, and tough luck if you wanted Realm artefacts from elsewhere (MUCH less significant after GHB20 where the Malign Sorcery Artefacts were taken off the menu).
	*Most models that aren't included in any set box (Start Collecting, battle boxes, ...) can only be bought on the GW online store. That means you won't get the 10%-20% discount on your purchases that many other (online) stores provide.		*Most models that aren't included in any set box (Start Collecting, battle boxes, ...) can only be bought on the GW online store. That means you won't get the 10%-20% discount on your purchases that many other (online) stores provide.
	*There are a ton of options that (over 50 warscrolls) for experienced players open up many opportunities, but for new players can seem very daunting. New players will have a hard time getting started with this army.		*There are a ton of options that (over 50 warscrolls) for experienced players open up many opportunities, but for new players can seem very daunting. New players will have a hard time getting started with this army.