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	This army is made using the Bretonnian Battalion box and some of the most common conversions/loose models you can find: Noble Champions.		This army is made using the Bretonnian Battalion box and some of the most common conversions/loose models you can find: Noble Champions.


			'''1000 Point Battalion Box'''

	- Bretonnian Lord on Pegasus (Leader) (140 points)		- Bretonnian Lord on Pegasus (Leader) (140 points)

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	==Army Building==		==Army Building==

			This army is made using the Bretonnian Battalion box and some of the most common conversions/loose models you can find: Noble Champions.

			- Bretonnian Lord on Pegasus (Leader) (140 points)

			- Noble Champion (Leader) (80 points)

			- 8 Knights of the Realm (Battleline) (220 points)

			- 16 Men-at-Arms (Battleline) (120 points)

			- 3 Pegasus Knights (Other) (200 points)

			- 16 Peasant Bowmen (Other) (200 points)

			For a total of 960 points and ~$400, you too can have a Bretonnian army! This is a good base to expand your army in any direction you want/can find/can afford. General tactica is as follows: Keep your bowmen in range, and remember to use the Arrowstorm ability and their braziers/stakes. Your Men-at-Arms and Noble Champion should move together, with their main goal being to isolate a unit for your Knights of the Realm to charge over and over again until it's dead. Seriously, just throw a wall of peasants between that enemy unit and the rest of the enemy army. Your Bretonnian Lord and his Pegasus Knights should go wherever needed using their fun 16" FLY, either charging in to finish off weakened units or destroy back-line Artillery and support characters. As for traits and relics, the Obstinate Blade is probably one of the most useful (extra rend never hurts) but both of them are up to your individual play style. Don't forget Realm of Origin relics!

	==Extra Advice ==		==Extra Advice ==

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	*Bringing the King on Hippogryph is not often a bad idea. He makes your entire army immune to battleshock. This is huge for your peasants allowing your to ignore that horrible bravery of 4 and especially helpful for your knights for when you lose 4-5 knight in a round of combat and then 4 more run away. He functions as an acceptable monster hunter being able to kill a giant with some luck or severely crippling it. However don't let the enemy cut him off from your army even with his quick regeneration and good save he can still fall from large amounts of reasonable fire or infantry.		*Bringing the King on Hippogryph is not often a bad idea. He makes your entire army immune to battleshock. This is huge for your peasants allowing your to ignore that horrible bravery of 4 and especially helpful for your knights for when you lose 4-5 knight in a round of combat and then 4 more run away. He functions as an acceptable monster hunter being able to kill a giant with some luck or severely crippling it. However don't let the enemy cut him off from your army even with his quick regeneration and good save he can still fall from large amounts of reasonable fire or infantry.

	-Battle pilgrims can be converted from Chaos Cultist/Cawdor Gang bodies from 40k and Skeleton Warrior shields/swords from AoS. Although, you're really hitting new levels by kitbashing a proxy for an out-of-production, unsupported model...		*Battle pilgrims can be converted from Chaos Cultist/Cawdor Gang bodies from 40k and Skeleton Warrior shields/swords from AoS. Although, you're really hitting new levels by kitbashing a proxy for an out-of-production, unsupported model...

	==External links==		==External links==

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	==Extra Advice ==		==Extra Advice ==
	~~-You might want~~ to ~~give~~ your ~~opponent first turn so that~~ they ~~move up and~~ you ~~can then move full ahead~~ and ~~charge turn one~~.		*Your knights need to charge. Most of your knights get bonus damage and better saves when they charge but afterwards their damage potential drops of significantly. Do whatever you need to do to get that charge. Don't forget your units' musicians, and use command abilities to reroll charges if necessary.

	~~-Do what ever you can to not be charged before you can charge. Don't be charged. Knights do lots of damage when they charge but afterwards their damage potential drops of significantly.~~		*Bringing the King on Hippogryph is not often a bad idea. He makes your entire army immune to battleshock. This is huge for your peasants allowing your to ignore that horrible bravery of 4 and especially helpful for your knights for when you lose 4-5 knight in a round of combat and then 4 more run away. He functions as an acceptable monster hunter being able to kill a giant with some luck or severely crippling it. However don't let the enemy cut him off from your army even with his quick regeneration and good save he can still fall from large amounts of reasonable fire or infantry.

	-Noble Champions are a must in your army when bringing the peasantry. If you don't have a Noble Champion your peasants will probably break and run, and Noble Champions are only 80 points to ensure your 120 or 200 point unit actually does its job.

	-ALWAYS BRING A TRUMPETER FOR THE KNIGHTS. Seriously having a trumpeter greatly helps your chances of making a charge. Nothing is worse than having your important game changing unit of knights fail their 5" charge and lose the game.

	-Peasant bowmen. These guys are great. They can once per game triple their shots or quadruple them if you have enough. Having massed fire of them like can instant gib many heavy units or severely cripple them allowing other thing to deliver the death blow.

	- Bringing the King on Hippogryph is not often a bad idea. He makes your entire army immune to battleshock. This is huge for your peasants allowing your to ignore that horrible bravery of 4 and especially helpful for your knights for when you lose 4-5 knight in a round of combat and then 4 more run away. He functions as an acceptable monster hunter being able to kill a giant with some luck or severely crippling it. However don't let the enemy cut him off from your army even with his quick regeneration and good save he can still fall from large amounts of reasonable fire or infantry.

	-Battle pilgrims can be converted from Chaos Cultist/Cawdor Gang bodies from 40k and Skeleton Warrior shields/swords from AoS. Although, you're really hitting new levels by kitbashing a proxy for an out-of-production, unsupported model...		-Battle pilgrims can be converted from Chaos Cultist/Cawdor Gang bodies from 40k and Skeleton Warrior shields/swords from AoS. Although, you're really hitting new levels by kitbashing a proxy for an out-of-production, unsupported model...

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	==Army Building==		==Army Building==
	~~The armies in this section are mostly theory, but there are some that are actually practical to convert/buy second-hand.~~
	~~===The 1000 Point Battalion Box===~~
	~~This army is made using the Bretonnian Battalion box and some of the most common conversions/loose models you can find: Noble Champions.~~

	~~- Bretonnian Lord on Pegasus (Leader) (140 points)~~
	~~- Noble Champion (Leader) (80 points)~~
	~~- 8 Knights of the Realm (Battleline) (220 points)~~
	~~- 16 Men-at-Arms (Battleline) (120 points)~~
	~~- 3 Pegasus Knights (Other) (200 points)~~
	~~- 16 Peasant Bowmen (Other) (200 points)~~

	~~For a total of 960 points and ~$400, you too can have a Bretonnian army! This is a good base to expand your army in any direction you want/can find/can afford.~~
	General tactica is as follows: Keep your bowmen in range, and remember to use the Arrowstorm ability and their braziers/stakes. Your Men-at-Arms and Noble Champion should move together, with their main goal being to isolate a unit for your Knights of the Realm to charge over and over again until it's dead. Seriously, just throw a wall of peasants between that enemy unit and the rest of the enemy army. Your Bretonnian Lord and his Pegasus Knights should go wherever needed using their fun 16" '''FLY''', either charging in to finish off weakened units or destroy back-line Artillery and support characters.
	~~As for traits and relics, the Obstinate Blade is probably one of the most useful (extra rend never hurts) but both of them are up to your individual play style. Don't forget Realm of Origin relics!~~

	~~===Catch me if you can===~~
	~~This army use a very simple tactic and at 60 wound it's really balanced.~~

	~~- 1 noble champion~~

	~~- 32 bowmen~~

	~~- 10 mounted yeomen~~

	~~- 1 field trebuchet~~

	~~Put your paladin, your bowmen and your trebuchet as far as possible from your enemy.~~
	~~Deploy your mounted yeomen as close as possible to your enemy.~~
	~~Charge their warmachines/heroes/small wounds units with the cavalry while hitting hard with all the ranged attack.~~
	~~Once they are done with the yeomen let them go near your archers and shot an arrowstorm.~~
	~~Smile.~~

	~~A variation of this concept could be substitute 5 bowmen for one Paladin Standard Bearer that will improve the Mounted Yeomen.~~

	~~===Hear my neigh!===~~
	~~Want some OP cavalry rage at 60 wounds?~~

	~~- 1 bretonnian lord~~

	~~- 1 damsel on pegasus~~

	~~- 5 grail knights~~

	~~- 16 knights of the realm~~

	~~- 3 pegasus knights~~

	~~One simple rule: charge! Oh and don't forget that you can always make a retreat move in order to charge again next turn.~~

	Any variation on that list is purely cosmetic since, in the end, all the knights if well used are equally powerful. This is maybe the most balanced list (due to the flyer and the not-so-many grail knights).

	~~===The Peasants Duty===~~
	~~Prefer Peasantry over Knights? This list may be for you~~

	~~- 1 Enchantress (Leader) (160 points)~~
	~~- 1 Noble Champion (Leader) (80 points)~~
	~~- 32 Men-at-arms (Battleline) (240 points)~~
	~~- 16 Men-at-arms (Battleline) (120 points)~~
	~~- 16 Peasant Bowmen (Other) (200 points)~~
	~~- 5 Grail Knights (Other) (180 points)~~

	This army composition utilises all of the Magic and Passive abilities of the Leaders to maximise the effectiveness of the Peasants and Grail knights. Use the men-at-arms as a meat-shield, capturing and holding points whilst your leaders, Grail Knights and Peasant Bowmen inflict as much damage as possible. The most important thing is to ensure that the Men-at-arms do not retreat-en-mass and use your grail knights intelligently as they are your kingpin and will inflict massive damage every single round if you keep them alive. Keep the Enchantress with the Grail knights, backing them up with her Saintly Guardians ability (use divine favour on the Grail Knights or Men-at-arms to increase their damage output!). Have the Noble Champion as your General, using inspiring presence often and helping dish out a good amount of damage if you give him the Relic Weapon artefact.

	This 980 point build can be acquired for about ~$300 or less if you know where to look, but isn't as effective as some other builds. Getting so many men-at-arms may be a hurdle, and you can replace the Peasant bowmen for a single group of knights of the realm as they deal a lot more damage per turn, but you won't have any ranged presence on the battlefield. You can use Knight of the Realm models to represent the Grail Knights, and their are plenty of alternatives for the Enchantress, such as a Noble Lord or an extra group of Grail Knights.

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	'''Mounted Yeomen:''' Mounted peasantry, 100pts gets you a unit of five expendable chaff horsemen. They won't do much damage in melee or with their bows, but with a 12" move they can be useful as a screen, to tag objectives and so on. Best of all, after deployment but before the first battle round, they get a free 12" move which could be very handy to screen off potential enemy alpha strikes.		'''Mounted Yeomen:''' Mounted peasantry, 100pts gets you a unit of five expendable chaff horsemen. They won't do much damage in melee or with their bows, but with a 12" move they can be useful as a screen, to tag objectives and so on. Best of all, after deployment but before the first battle round, they get a free 12" move which could be very handy to screen off potential enemy alpha strikes.

	'''Battle Pilgrims:''' Peasant zealots who can carry around the Grail Reliquae. 80pts for six models. Their melee attacks are rubbish and their save isn't great... if you want a cheap chaff unit, the Mounted Yeomen seem like the better option.		'''Battle Pilgrims:''' Peasant zealots who can carry around the Grail Reliquae. 80pts for six models. Their melee attacks are rubbish and their save isn't great... the Reliquae gives them +1 to wound, but they still won't kill things. It does improve their save though. If you want a cheap chaff unit, the Mounted Yeomen seem like the better option. However, if you want a dirt cheap unit to sit on an objective in your back field.... if you keep them in cover, they'd effectively have a 4+ save rerolling 1s and 2s, which isn't the worst thing ever. It's certainly cheaper than paying for sixteen Men-at-Arms or Peasant Bowmen.

	===Artillery===		===Artillery===

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	===Other===		===Other===

	'''Questing Knights:''' ~~Elite mounted monster slayers~~. ~~Weaker vs. common troops (an average of~~ 1~~.38 damages per model due to no charge bonus)~~ but ~~against monsters they are back~~ to ~~the average~~ 2.~~27. Better skip... However they do have a rend, and against monsters they outpace Knights~~ of ~~the Realm or Grail Knights. Very specific and not the cheapest~~, ~~but~~ they ~~may be worth it if you~~'~~re fighting~~ a ~~monster-heavy army. Their Warscroll tries~~ to ~~sell these guys as monster hunters with charge and damage bonuses~~, but ~~since Grail Knights do a WAY better job at it these guys will form your more elite fighting wall. Their great weapons mean~~ they ~~hit and wound on 3+ regardless of charging and~~ have ~~2 attacks each (plus horse attacks). Think of them as super mobile Greatswords with a 4+~~ save ~~rerolling 1's~~ on the charge. ~~Get them stuck in combat on~~ an ~~objective and they will fight~~ the whole game. Support them with a shock calvary unit like KoTR or Trebuchet Fire and they will win a lot of fights. You can also support them with a Loremaster for re-roll to hit and wound goodness that makes these guys absolutely brutal.		'''Questing Knights:''' The first of your elite knight options, these guys specialise in hunting monsters. Two attacks at 3+/3+/-1/1 with their greatblades, but the Damage goes up to 2 when attacking monsters. Unlike most of your other knights, they don't get a charge bonus to their attacks, but they still have shields for the reroll 1s to save on the charge. They also get to reroll charge rolls if there is an enemy monster within 12" at the time.

	'''Grail Knights:''' ~~Powerful~~ elite ~~cavalry~~, ~~who (due to~~ the ~~change in GHB 2017) are a hard counter for daemons and undead armies~~. ~~Like all knights Grail Knights gain~~ +1 to ~~wound rolls and damage~~ on the charge~~. But they also carry relic weapons like the above Noble Champion~~ and ~~Standard Bearer meaning~~ they ~~gain~~ +1 ~~damage against undead and daemons. So on the charge each Grail Knight has 2 attacks hitting and wounding on 3~~'~~s that deal 3 damage each to daemons and undead~~. ~~A unit of 5 on the charge reliably kill exalted greater demons, mortis engines, and vampire lords on dragons. With the change Grail Knights~~ have ~~become your elite shock cavalry and one of the cheapest (and best) monster hunters in the game~~.		'''Grail Knights:''' Your second elite knights option, and the same cost as Questing Knights. These guys' lances have two attacks each at 3+/4+/-1/1, but this goes up to 3+/3+/-1/2 on the charge, and whether or not they charged their lances get +1 Damage when attacking '''DEATH''' or '''DAEMON''' units. They also reroll failed hit rolls if you have an Enchantress within 10".

	'''Pegasus Knights:''' ~~Fast flying cavalry~~. They ~~have the same stats as your KoTR~~ with move 16, ~~4 wounds, 2~~ attacks~~, and fly. Their damage output isn't anything to write home about, but their mobility means they are experts~~ at ~~taking down war machines and less fighty lords~~/~~heroes. Their~~ 4 ~~wounds also force your opponent to spend more than a little effort removing them. Alternatively~~, ~~you can build an army around them as they can reliably get 1st turn charges with a general with Reckless or a Bretonnian Lord giving rerolls~~ to ~~their~~ charge.		'''Pegasus Knights:''' Your third elite knight option, costing more than the Questing or Grail knights - 200pts for three. They focus more on speed than damage potential with a 16" flying move, and each knight has two lance attacks at 3+/4+/-/1, going up to 3+/3+/-/2 on the charge.

	'''Peasant Bowmen:''' ~~No longer the beast they once were due to removal of~~ +1 to ~~hit bonuses and the '''FREE PEOPLES''' keyword. A minimum unit of Peasant Bowmen does 3.16 damage on average, which really isn't great considering they cost the same as Knights Errant~~. However, ~~their gimmick is the '''Arrowstorm''';~~ once per ~~battle~~, they ~~add 2 to their Longbow's attack characteristic~~, or 3 if there are 20 ~~or more~~ models in the unit. ~~This boosts their damage~~ to ~~a little under 6 on average, almost 7 if you~~ have the braziers~~. Speaking of~~, ~~they can also take~~ stakes ~~and the aforementioned braziers, which grant D3~~ mortal wounds to enemies within 3" and re-rolling wounds of 1 respectively as long as they don't move from where they deployed. If they move, you lose the bonus. These can be powerful, as they aren't bad ranged units and can gimp a unit ~~pretty reliably at least once a game~~. ~~While sort of~~ expensive ~~and very fragile, an Agincourt strategy could work with these guys: Keep some infantry in front of them, charge the Knights around the sides, and then pop your '''Arrowstorm'''~~ for ~~devastating effect~~.		'''Peasant Bowmen:''' Archers with a 20" range, one shot each at 5+/4+/-/1 is not terribly scary and 200pts is a lot to pay for each sixteen guys. However, once per game, so long as there are no enemies within 3" at the time they can fire an arrow storm giving them two shots each, or three shots each if there are at least 20 models in the unit. 200pts is a lot to pay for sixteen of these guys. They do have two extra abilities which last until the bowmen have moved or have been attacked in melee: the flaming braziers give them reroll 1s to wound with their bows, and their defensive stakes inflict d3 mortal wounds to any charging enemy unit. Still too expensive for what they do.

	'''Mounted Yeomen:''' Mounted ~~Peasant Bowmen who get~~ a ~~free move~~. They~~'re deceptively useful; they don~~'t do ~~amazing~~ damage, but ~~their mixture of not-terrible-but-not-good ranged and melee weaponry means~~ they can ~~operate on their own. Which is good, because the most~~ useful ~~thing to do with these guys is to throw~~ a ~~group of ten on the table for 200 points~~, ~~then use it~~ to ~~control your opponent. He's moving something scary up the board? Make your free move right into it's face~~ and ~~tarpit it for the next turn or two~~. ~~Fragile warmachine being bubblewrapped? Move them~~, ~~shoot it, charge it~~, ~~tarpit it in that order. Although~~ they~~'re not gonna impress anyone, they seem~~ to ~~be pretty damn good at table control~~.		'''Mounted Yeomen:''' Mounted peasantry, 100pts gets you a unit of five expendable chaff horsemen. They won't do much damage in melee or with their bows, but with a 12" move they can be useful as a screen, to tag objectives and so on. Best of all, after deployment but before the first battle round, they get a free 12" move which could be very handy to screen off potential enemy alpha strikes.

	'''Battle Pilgrims:''' ~~Elite peasants~~. ~~They're the cheapest units in your army at 80 points, and actually put out 2~~.~~32 damage (only slightly below the Peasant Bowmen~~ and ~~Men-at-Arms). Defensively, they have slightly better saves due to~~ their ~~ability to re-roll 1s and 2s if the Grail Reliquae is alive, but the minimum unit size only has 9 wounds compared to Men-at-Arms~~' 16. ~~These honestly might not be half bad; they're~~ cheap, ~~defensive, and only slightly more peasant-y and useless than Men-at-Arms. However, this bonus starts dropping off above 12 models or so; thirty Men-at-Arms cost 240 points and benefits from~~ the ~~'''Rowdy Mob''' special rule, while thirty Battle Pilgrims cost 400 points and only has one tier of~~ the ~~'''Inspired Fervour''' rule (add 1 to wound rolls if you have more than ten models). Keep them in mind~~.		'''Battle Pilgrims:''' Peasant zealots who can carry around the Grail Reliquae. 80pts for six models. Their melee attacks are rubbish and their save isn't great... if you want a cheap chaff unit, the Mounted Yeomen seem like the better option.

	===Artillery===		===Artillery===

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	==Common Rules==		==Common Rules==
	'''Banners:''' Many units can take a banner which can give you rerolls to battleshock tests... which might sound nice until you remember that you get that anyway because you're playing an '''ORDER''' allegiance army. Well, may as well take it anyway just for the look of the thing.		'''Banners:''' Many units can take a banner which can give you rerolls to battleshock tests... which might sound nice until you remember that you get that anyway because you're playing an '''ORDER''' allegiance army. Well, may as well take it anyway just for the look of the thing.

	'''Musicians:''' Your knights' musicians allow the unit to roll 3d6 instead of 2d6 when charging and discard one of the three, giving you more reliable charge rolls. Good stuff, because most of your knights really need that charge. Peasantry's musicians are a little different; the trumpeters instead give you +1 to run rolls and drummers +1 to charge rolls. Personally I would've guessed it would be the other way around.		'''Musicians:''' Your knights' musicians allow the unit to roll 3d6 instead of 2d6 when charging and discard one of the three, giving you more reliable charge rolls. Good stuff, because most of your knights really need that charge. Peasantry's musicians are a little different; the trumpeters instead give you +1 to run rolls and drummers +1 to charge rolls. Personally I would've guessed it would be the other way around.

	'''Knight Shields:''' Most of your nobility get to reroll 1s to save on the turn they charged thanks to their shields, which is cool.		'''Knight Shields:''' Most of your nobility get to reroll 1s to save on the turn they charged thanks to their shields, which is cool.