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	Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.		Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.

	====[[Pathfinder Second Edition]]===		====[[Pathfinder Second Edition]]====
	The Androids did return again for the second edition of Pathfinder as part of the "Lost Omens Ancestry Guide", being one of the more novel races to have been made playable. That said, the transition has not been very kind, as they've lost all their immunities, making them feel less like machines in the shape of humanoids and more like humanoids with synthetic skin. Even with the various feats available, all you'll get is the ability to critically succeed certain saves if you pass them by any degree rather than just not bothering with them.		The Androids did return again for the second edition of Pathfinder as part of the "Lost Omens Ancestry Guide", being one of the more novel races to have been made playable. That said, the transition has not been very kind, as they've lost all their immunities, making them feel less like machines in the shape of humanoids and more like humanoids with synthetic skin. Even with the various feats available, all you'll get is the ability to critically succeed certain saves if you pass them by any degree rather than just not bothering with them.

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	===Pathfinder===		===Pathfinder===
	[[File:Android PotS.png\|thumb\|200px\|Android doctors recommend drinking eight glasses of nanites a day.]]		[[File:Android PotS.png\|thumb\|200px\|Android doctors recommend drinking eight glasses of nanites a day.]]
	[[Pathfinder]], being more willing to embrace the more gonzo and [[Science Fantasy]] aspects of old-school D&D, has a subsetting called Numeria, which is basically a glorious homage to the aforementioned module with a dash of [[Conan the Barbarian]]: it's a region of [[Golarion]] where a hyper-advanced spaceship crashed centuries ago. As such, the region is crawling with robots of various shapes and sizes, whilst androids - artificial humanoids who're basically super-realistic [[warforged]] in practice - are a player race that emerged from that region. Androids don't sleep, but they do eat, drink, breath and excrete: "Though they have secondary sexual characteristics and can engage in and enjoy intercourse, androids have no functional reproductive organs and cannot procreate." (Starfinder, for some reason, requires they sleep but does not require them to breathe, even though they're supposed to be the same species.)		[[Pathfinder]], being more willing to embrace the more gonzo and [[Science Fantasy]] aspects of old-school D&D, has a subsetting called Numeria, which is basically a glorious homage to the aforementioned module with a dash of [[Conan the Barbarian]]: it's a region of [[Golarion]] where a hyper-advanced spaceship crashed centuries ago. As such, the region is crawling with robots of various shapes and sizes, whilst androids - artificial humanoids who're basically super-realistic [[warforged]] in practice - are a player race that emerged from that region that are usually hunted by the Technic League, a clan of techno-slavers who seek to use the ancient tech for their own evil ends. Androids don't sleep, but they do eat, drink, breath and excrete: "Though they have secondary sexual characteristics and can engage in and enjoy intercourse, androids have no functional reproductive organs and cannot procreate." (Starfinder, for some reason, requires they sleep but does not require them to breathe, even though they're supposed to be the same species.)

	Instead of sex, Androids "reproduce" by a process they call "Renewal". They go into a special Rejuvenation pod that restores their bodies to a showroom-ready condition. During this, their soul leaves the body~~(yes~~, effectively dying) and journeying to the Boneyard with all the other souls, while a new soul will come to inhabit the freshly-overhauled body to begin a new life. This also means that, as long as they get regular maintenance(and don't get killed), an Android can live as long as they want to.		Instead of sex, Androids "reproduce" by a process they call "Renewal". They go into a special Rejuvenation pod that restores their bodies to a showroom-ready condition. During this, their soul leaves the body, effectively dying and journeying to the Boneyard with all the other souls, while a new soul will come to inhabit the freshly-overhauled body to begin a new life. This also means that, as long as they get regular maintenance (and don't get killed), an Android can live as long as they want to.

	::Ability Scores: +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma		::'''Ability Scores:''' +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
	::Size: Medium		::'''Size:''' Medium
	::Base Speed: 30 feet		::'''Base Speed:''' 30 feet
	::Alert: +2 racial bonus to Perception checks.		::'''Alert:''' +2 racial bonus to Perception checks.
	::Emotionless: -4 racial penalty to Sense Motive checks. Can never gain moral bonuses. Immune to fear and emotion-based effects.		::'''Emotionless:''' -4 racial penalty to Sense Motive checks. Can never gain moral bonuses. Immune to fear and emotion-based effects.
	::Exceptional Senses: Darkvision 60 feet, Low-Light Vision.		::'''Exceptional Senses:''' Darkvision 60 feet, Low-Light Vision.
	::Constructed: Androids count as both Humanoids and Constructs for effects that target creature type. +4 racial bonus on saves against mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison and stun. Immune to fatigue, exhaustion, disease and sleep.		::'''Constructed:''' Androids count as both Humanoids and Constructs for effects that target creature type. +4 racial bonus on saves against mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison and stun. Immune to fatigue, exhaustion, disease and sleep.
	::Nanite Surge: 1/day, as an immediate action, an android can trigger its nanites before making a D20 roll to gain a (3 + character level) bonus. When this ability is used, the android's circuitry-tattoos glow, causing them to give off light equivalent to a torch for 1 round.(Starfinder Androids lose this ability, but instead gain a free upgrade slot built into their bodies that can use any suitable armor upgrade. IOW, they lose the Tron lines, but can get a built-in forcefield or jet pack, for example)		::'''Nanite Surge:''' 1/day, as an immediate action, an android can trigger its nanites before making a D20 roll to gain a (3 + character level) bonus. When this ability is used, the android's circuitry-tattoos glow, causing them to give off light equivalent to a torch for 1 round.(Starfinder Androids lose this ability, but instead gain a free upgrade slot built into their bodies that can use any suitable armor upgrade. IOW, they lose the Tron lines, but can get a built-in forcefield or jet pack, for example)

	Alternate Racial Trait: Repairing Nanites ~~- Replaces Nanite Surge.~~		Alternate Racial Trait:
	::The first time each day that an android with this trait has taken an amount of damage greater than or equal to twice their Hit Dice, their nanites activate. They give off light equivalent to a torch for 1 round and heal a number of hit points equal to twice their hit dice.		::'''Repairing Nanites:''' The first time each day that an android with this trait has taken an amount of damage greater than or equal to twice their Hit Dice, their nanites activate. They give off light equivalent to a torch for 1 round and heal a number of hit points equal to twice their hit dice. Replaces Nanite Surge.

	Some androids [[Loli\|look like children but have adult minds (and thus presumably still "enjoy intercourse")]]. They have small size and immortality but are otherwise identical (including 30 foot move speed and lack of strength penalty).		Some androids [[Loli\|look like children but have adult minds (and thus presumably still "enjoy intercourse")]]. They have small size and immortality but are otherwise identical (including 30 foot move speed and lack of strength penalty).

	Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.		Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.

			====[[Pathfinder Second Edition]]===
			The Androids did return again for the second edition of Pathfinder as part of the "Lost Omens Ancestry Guide", being one of the more novel races to have been made playable. That said, the transition has not been very kind, as they've lost all their immunities, making them feel less like machines in the shape of humanoids and more like humanoids with synthetic skin. Even with the various feats available, all you'll get is the ability to critically succeed certain saves if you pass them by any degree rather than just not bothering with them.

			::'''HP:''' 8
			::'''Ability Scores:''' +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, +2 to any other ability score, -2 Charisma
			::'''Size:''' Medium
			::'''Base Speed:''' 25 feet
			::'''Senses:''' Low-Light Vision
			::'''Constructed:''' Your synthetic body resists ailments better than those of purely biological organisms. You gain a +1 circumstance bonus to saving throws against diseases, poisons, and radiation.
			::'''Emotionally Unaware:''' You find it difficult to understand and express complex emotions. You take a –1 circumstance penalty to Diplomacy and Performance checks, and on Perception checks to Sense Motive.

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			Ancestries:
			<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
			*'''Artisan:''' You were originally built to create art and maintain machinery. You are proficient in Crafting and the Specialty Crafting skill feat for one specialty.
			*'''Impersonator:''' You were created to more easily blend into human society. You are proficient in Deception and can pass off as a human without needing a disguise kit, plus an additional +4 bonus in order to impersonate being human. None of this applies when trying to impersonate someone else, though.
			*'''Laborer:''' You are capable of performing hard labor for extended periods of time. You are proficient in Athletics and gain the Hefty Hauler skill feat.
			*'''Polyglot:''' You are a translator, already programmed with knowledge of many languages. You know two additional languages out of the ones you can potentially know, and you can learn three extra languages when taking the Multilingual feat.
			*'''Warrior:''' You were originally built to be a soldier and are skilled in many forms of combat. You are proficient in all simple and martial weapons.
			</div>
			</div>

	{{Pathfinder-Races}}		{{Pathfinder-Races}}

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	(on that note, #17 and #18 are Cyborgs, while #16 is an Android, and Cell is a Bioroid)		(on that note, #17 and #18 are Cyborgs, while #16 is an Android, and Cell is a Bioroid)

	==Origins ~~of the concept~~==		==Origins==
	The idea of machines looking and acting like us is not a recent topic of discussion. The first people to develop this idea were the ancient Greeks with their "αὐτόματον", complex artificial constructs designed to follow a series of instructions, usually resembling the human form. One of the most famous of them was Talos, a bronze automaton designed and created by the god Hephaestus (although in some versions the author is a mortal inventor) as a request by Zeus, and with the task of protecting Zeus's lover Europa. Talos's job consisted in guarding the island of Crete to avoid any potential threat to reach Europa.		The idea of machines looking and acting like us is not a recent topic of discussion. The first people to develop this idea were the ancient Greeks with their "αὐτόματον", complex artificial constructs designed to follow a series of instructions, usually resembling the human form. One of the most famous of them was Talos, a bronze automaton designed and created by the god Hephaestus (although in some versions the author is a mortal inventor) as a request by Zeus, and with the task of protecting Zeus's lover Europa. Talos's job consisted in guarding the island of Crete to avoid any potential threat to reach Europa.

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	Asimov himself repeatedly explored the consequences, gaps, and loopholes of the laws in his own works. Naturally, depictions by other authors have followed, often to have both the Three Laws and killer robots.		Asimov himself repeatedly explored the consequences, gaps, and loopholes of the laws in his own works. Naturally, depictions by other authors have followed, often to have both the Three Laws and killer robots.

	==~~Actual development of androids~~==		==Androids IRL==
	Nowadays, the development of human-like robots has risen in popularity, although the results usually fall right into the uncanny valley. Seriously, just look at some of those Japanese androids they show on those technology showcases, and tell me you don't get the creeps. Making a humanoid robot able to walk across a room is hard, making one that can pass for a human is harder still. The investigation also focus on the AIs, in particular those that allow self-learning. But as of now, they look and act very dumb. So your dream of getting your own robot girl is still too far. Don't lie, you want one.		Nowadays, the development of human-like robots has risen in popularity, although the results usually fall right into the uncanny valley. Seriously, just look at some of those Japanese androids they show on those technology showcases, and tell me you don't get the creeps. Making a humanoid robot able to walk across a room is hard, making one that can pass for a human is harder still. The investigation also focus on the AIs, in particular those that allow self-learning. But as of now, they look and act very dumb. So your dream of getting your own robot girl is still too far. Don't lie, you want one.

	==Androids in ~~Star Wars~~==		==Androids in /tg/==
	The (trademarked) name "Droid" is obviously derived from "android". Despite this, while many droids in [[Star Wars]] have a roughly humanoid shape and artificial skin is old tech that has existed for a long time (a ''long'' time), very few droids could pass for human. The first known droid that pretended to be human did so merely by pretending to never meet in person and projecting a hologram of its "owner" and pretending they were elsewhere. That of course, doesn't really count.		===Dungeons & Dragons===
			Purely technological Androids are a rare sight in D&D. However, there ''are'' a truckload of [[Golem\|golems]], [[Warforged\|magically empowered automata]] and races of [[Modron\|weird]] [[Inevitable\|mechanical]] celestial beings that fit the larger bill. Actual androids do appear as enemies you can face in the classic [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] adventure module [[Expedition to the Barrier Peaks]], in which you explore what is ultimately revealed to be a crashed spaceship module from the [[Metamorphosis Alpha]].
	It was not until the era of the Empire that droids capable of passing for human went anywhere. The first attempt came shortly after the fall of the Republic and was so disastrously deep in the uncanny valley it killed the company behind it. Despite this failure, Imperial scientists, well aware of their value as infiltrators, continued working on them. A decade latter they produced droids that could pass for human to all but thorough medical tests and were explicitly capable of sex. The Rebellion experimented with the concept as well, but didn't produce anything till after the Battle of Endor (by which time they had already encountered Imperial examples) and those they did were crude and malfunction prone <ref>If you're wondering how they managed to do what a massive company devoted to making the tech couldn’t yet simultaneously fail at the basic droid parts, which have been well understood by the general public for thousands of years it’s easy: This bit appeared exclusively in the [[Skub]]tastic ''Jedi Prince'' series and continuity resources trying to explain where the fuck a robot duplicate of Leia came from.</ref>. In the New Republic era one of the surviving Imperial examples began producing further examples based on her own design (details on this are really vague because the part comes exclusively from one short story intended to clean up lose ends that really just makes more than it solved).

	Saga Edition is the only one of the Star Wars RPGs to stat replica droids out for PC use, giving them stats in ''Threats of the Galaxy''. They are stated as a humanoid race with some droid traits instead of a type of droid. The other RPGs do mention their existence, and the way droids work in D6 and FFG's system makes it easy to roll a droid PC and say it's a replica droid.

	One curious implication of HRDs is combining them with Shards. Shards are a species of sapient crystals that can’t move or speak on their own that can be implanted into a droid to gain mobility, speech, sight and hearing, and are described as “insatiably curious, and almost intoxicated by the new sensory experiences”. The implication of giving such beings the full range of human senses has interested fans, but it has never been mentioned in any official work.

	==~~Examples of androids in D~~&D==
	Purely technological Androids are a rare sight in D&D,~~;however~~ there are a truckload of golems, magically empowered automata and races of [[Modron\|weird]] [[Inevitable\|mechanical]] celestial beings that fit the larger bill. Actual androids do appear as enemies you can face in the classic [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] adventure module [[Expedition to the Barrier Peaks]], in which you explore what is ultimately revealed to be a crashed spaceship module from the [[Metamorphosis Alpha]].

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	Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.		Since Androids can't benefit from morale bonuses, and rage is based on morale bonuses, Androids make shitty [[Barbarian]]s despite their immunity to fatigue. The exception to this is the Mooncursed archetype, which replaces the morale bonuses to rage with [[Transformers#Beast_Wars\|transformation into an animal]] (But mostly tiger, since they get pounce meaning they are clearly better than the other options by a long mile). [[Bard]]s, oddly enough, don't give out many morale bonuses, only the bonus against charm and fear, the late gained Inspire Heroics and some (good) spells are morale bonuses. This means they make pretty good bards if you use the Chronicler of Worlds (which replaces Inspire Heroics with a non-morale bonus effect) archetype to make an intelligence based Bard. Otherwise they make good [[Wizard]], [[Magus]] and [[Witch]] as well as most skill monkey classes, especially so for child androids as they get all the benefits of small size with few of the drawbacks, and Nanite Surge can provide a massive boost to rolls again Spell Resistance.

			{{Pathfinder-Races}}

			===Star Wars===
			The (trademarked) name "Droid" is obviously derived from "android". Despite this, while many droids in [[Star Wars]] have a roughly humanoid shape and artificial skin is old tech that has existed for a long time (a ''long'' time), very few droids could pass for human. The first known droid that pretended to be human did so merely by pretending to never meet in person and projecting a hologram of its "owner" and pretending they were elsewhere. That of course, doesn't really count.

			It was not until the era of the Empire that droids capable of passing for human went anywhere. The first attempt came shortly after the fall of the Republic and was so disastrously deep in the uncanny valley it killed the company behind it. Despite this failure, Imperial scientists, well aware of their value as infiltrators, continued working on them. A decade latter they produced droids that could pass for human to all but thorough medical tests and were explicitly capable of sex. The Rebellion experimented with the concept as well, but didn't produce anything till after the Battle of Endor (by which time they had already encountered Imperial examples) and those they did were crude and malfunction prone <ref>If you're wondering how they managed to do what a massive company devoted to making the tech couldn’t yet simultaneously fail at the basic droid parts, which have been well understood by the general public for thousands of years it’s easy: This bit appeared exclusively in the [[Skub]]tastic ''Jedi Prince'' series and continuity resources trying to explain where the fuck a robot duplicate of Leia came from.</ref>. In the New Republic era one of the surviving Imperial examples began producing further examples based on her own design (details on this are really vague because the part comes exclusively from one short story intended to clean up lose ends that really just makes more than it solved).

			Saga Edition is the only one of the Star Wars RPGs to stat replica droids out for PC use, giving them stats in ''Threats of the Galaxy''. They are stated as a humanoid race with some droid traits instead of a type of droid. The other RPGs do mention their existence, and the way droids work in D6 and FFG's system makes it easy to roll a droid PC and say it's a replica droid.

			One curious implication of HRDs is combining them with Shards. Shards are a species of sapient crystals that can’t move or speak on their own that can be implanted into a droid to gain mobility, speech, sight and hearing, and are described as “insatiably curious, and almost intoxicated by the new sensory experiences”. The implication of giving such beings the full range of human senses has interested fans, but it has never been mentioned in any official work.

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	:''Xenometric'': Your form was based off a species other than human. You gain a humanoid subtype of a different species and a few of their racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.		:''Xenometric'': Your form was based off a species other than human. You gain a humanoid subtype of a different species and a few of their racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.

	~~{{Pathfinder-Races}}~~ {{Starfinder-Races}}		{{Starfinder-Races}}

	==~~Examples of androids in~~ Warhammer ~~40k~~==		===Warhammer 40,000===
	In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). And they do still build [[Land raider\|autonomous machines]] that skirt the definitions of intelligence a bit, but their programming is not true AI (or at least that's what the mechanicus says anyway). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!		In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). And they do still build [[Land raider\|autonomous machines]] that skirt the definitions of intelligence a bit, but their programming is not true AI (or at least that's what the mechanicus says anyway). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!

	Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the Leagues of Votann, who live under the control of giant AIs and can create machines smart enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are. And let’s not forget the Tau, with their anime-style Mecha with fully integrated AI, like something out of [[Lancer]].		Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the Leagues of Votann, who live under the control of giant AIs and can create machines smart enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are. And let’s not forget the Tau, with their anime-style Mecha with fully integrated AI, like something out of [[Lancer]].

	==~~Famous examples of androids in popular culture~~==		==In Popular Culture==
	*''Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'' (or Blade Runner, if you like films more). Humans create artificial humans as slaves, and after a revolt they hunt them all down. This is an interesting case because they are organic beings, but still artificially made, so the definition is just barely apt in this case.		*''Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'' (or Blade Runner, if you like films more). Humans create artificial humans as slaves, and after a revolt they hunt them all down. This is an interesting case because they are organic beings, but still artificially made, so the definition is just barely apt in this case.
	*''I, Robot.'' In the classic Isaac Asimov's short story, there are some robots that could be described as android.		*''I, Robot.'' In the classic Isaac Asimov's short story, there are some robots that could be described as android.

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	In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). And they do still build [[Land raider\|autonomous machines]] that skirt the definitions of intelligence a bit, but their programming is not true AI (or at least that's what the mechanicus says anyway). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!		In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). And they do still build [[Land raider\|autonomous machines]] that skirt the definitions of intelligence a bit, but their programming is not true AI (or at least that's what the mechanicus says anyway). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!

	Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the ~~Tau~~, who ~~use massive amounts~~ of ~~robots~~ and can create ~~AIs good~~ enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are.		Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the Leagues of Votann, who live under the control of giant AIs and can create machines smart enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are. And let’s not forget the Tau, with their anime-style Mecha with fully integrated AI, like something out of [[Lancer]].

	==Famous examples of androids in popular culture==		==Famous examples of androids in popular culture==

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	:''Nanite Upgrade'': You gain the Nanite Integration feat as a bonus feat, ignoring prerequisites. This replaces Upgrade Slot.		:''Nanite Upgrade'': You gain the Nanite Integration feat as a bonus feat, ignoring prerequisites. This replaces Upgrade Slot.
	:*''Nanite Integration'' - Requirements: Character level 3rd, Constructed trait or Construct creature type. You gain one of the following benefits (Spend 1 resolve to re-roll a saving throw, Spend 1 resolve to gain Fast Healing equal to 1/4 character level (minimum 1) for 1 minute, Spend 1 resolve to gain a +2 racial bonus to a skill or ability check.) This is basically a version of the Pathfinder ability.		:*''Nanite Integration'' - Requirements: Character level 3rd, Constructed trait or Construct creature type. You gain one of the following benefits (Spend 1 resolve to re-roll a saving throw, Spend 1 resolve to gain Fast Healing equal to 1/4 character level (minimum 1) for 1 minute, Spend 1 resolve to gain a +2 racial bonus to a skill or ability check.) This is basically a version of the Pathfinder ability.
	:''Xenometric'': You ~~no longer count as human, instead gaining the~~ humanoid subtype of a different species and ~~gaining~~ a few racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.		:''Xenometric'': Your form was based off a species other than human. You gain a humanoid subtype of a different species and a few of their racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.

	{{Pathfinder-Races}} {{Starfinder-Races}}		{{Pathfinder-Races}} {{Starfinder-Races}}

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	Do ''not'' confuse with [[cyborg]]s. A cyborg is an amalgamation of a living being with artificial parts, whereas the android is fully artificial, whether those parts are organic or not(a term commonly used to refer to an android made from organic/living tissue is "Bioroid"). Take that, whoever translated Dragon Ball!		Do ''not'' confuse with [[cyborg]]s. A cyborg is an amalgamation of a living being with artificial parts, whereas the android is fully artificial, whether those parts are organic or not(a term commonly used to refer to an android made from organic/living tissue is "Bioroid"). Take that, whoever translated Dragon Ball!
	(on that note, #17 and #18 are Cyborgs, while #16 and Cell ~~are Androids~~)		(on that note, #17 and #18 are Cyborgs, while #16 is an Android, and Cell is a Bioroid)

	==Origins of the concept==		==Origins of the concept==

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	:''Multilingual'': You learn 4 additional languages at character creation. Any time they take a skill rank in Culture, they can learn two additional languages. This replaces Upgrade Slot.		:''Multilingual'': You learn 4 additional languages at character creation. Any time they take a skill rank in Culture, they can learn two additional languages. This replaces Upgrade Slot.
	:''Nanite Upgrade'': You gain the Nanite Integration feat as a bonus feat, ignoring prerequisites. This replaces Upgrade Slot.		:''Nanite Upgrade'': You gain the Nanite Integration feat as a bonus feat, ignoring prerequisites. This replaces Upgrade Slot.
	:*''Nanite Integration'' - Requirements: Character level 3rd, Constructed trait or Construct creature type. You gain one of the following benefits (Spend 1 resolve to re-roll a saving throw, Spend 1 resolve to gain Fast Healing equal to 1/4 character level (minimum 1) for 1 minute, Spend 1 resolve to gain a +2 racial bonus to a skill or ability check.)		:*''Nanite Integration'' - Requirements: Character level 3rd, Constructed trait or Construct creature type. You gain one of the following benefits (Spend 1 resolve to re-roll a saving throw, Spend 1 resolve to gain Fast Healing equal to 1/4 character level (minimum 1) for 1 minute, Spend 1 resolve to gain a +2 racial bonus to a skill or ability check.) This is basically a version of the Pathfinder ability.
	:''Xenometric'': You no longer count as human, instead gaining the humanoid subtype of a different species and gaining a few racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.		:''Xenometric'': You no longer count as human, instead gaining the humanoid subtype of a different species and gaining a few racial traits. This replaces Upgrade Slot and Exceptional Vision.

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	It is important to take into consideration that the original concept doesn't necessarily need the android to be an electronic-based creation; that idea appeared alongside the developement of computer science and AIs. Because of this, the idea of android is not limited to sci-fi settings, but it can also be included in fantasy settings.		It is important to take into consideration that the original concept doesn't necessarily need the android to be an electronic-based creation; that idea appeared alongside the developement of computer science and AIs. Because of this, the idea of android is not limited to sci-fi settings, but it can also be included in fantasy settings.

	Do ''not'' confuse with [[cyborg]]s. A cyborg is an amalgamation of a living being with artificial parts, whereas the android is fully artificial. Take that, whoever translated Dragon Ball!		Do ''not'' confuse with [[cyborg]]s. A cyborg is an amalgamation of a living being with artificial parts, whereas the android is fully artificial, whether those parts are organic or not(a term commonly used to refer to an android made from organic/living tissue is "Bioroid"). Take that, whoever translated Dragon Ball!
			(on that note, #17 and #18 are Cyborgs, while #16 and Cell are Androids)

	==Origins of the concept==		==Origins of the concept==

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	==Examples of androids in Warhammer 40k==		==Examples of androids in Warhammer 40k==
	In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!		In the 40k lore, mankind once had to wage war against its mechanical creations, Terminator Judgement Day style [[Wat\|but on steroids]]. After that, humanity is so paranoid of this happening again that they totally forbade the creation of AIs. They create human-like robots though, at least in the sense that their shape resembles a humanoid being. The best exampe of this are the titans, massive war machines that praise the holy human form by resembling the shape of a human (two arms, two legs, a head. That's it. So much for holy human form). And they do still build [[Land raider\|autonomous machines]] that skirt the definitions of intelligence a bit, but their programming is not true AI (or at least that's what the mechanicus says anyway). In general, though, the Imperium relies much more on cyborgs, both in the way of servitors and the Adeptus Mechanicus. Chaos could in theory create some form of automata, but they rather make chaos s-THINGS! Yes!

	Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the Tau, who use massive amounts of robots and can create AIs good enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are.		Anyway... Outside of Mankind, the other factions that use their own shape to make artificial beings. In general, any faction that's vaguely humanoid builds constructs that resemble human forms. The best example of an android in the traditional sense are the Tau, who use massive amounts of robots and can create AIs good enough to pass as living, thinking beings. The Necrons are a particular case, due to the living Necrontyr used as a platform for the C'Tan to turn them into the mechanical Necrons. Due to this, they are technically neither cyborgs (they aren't living anymore)nor androids (they used to be alive, so they aren't fully artificially created). Automata would actually work closely with them, in the classic Graeco-Latin sense of the word. But I guess this is up to interpretation of what the Necrons actually are.