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	== Society ==		== Society ==
	Insofar as culture and society goes, Araby has been fairly indecisively written. The only thing that's completely clear regarding them is their consummate professionalism in matters of trade and economics. They vie with Cathay for overland spice trade routes that go through the Southlands, and have generally emerged better off from those confrontations than the Cathayans have. Some writers, like the great Rick Priestley, when he made an Arabyan armylist for Warmaster, described the Arabyans much akin to the Islamic World from the 8th - 16th centuries, i.e.: significantly ahead of the Old World insofar as medicine in particular and other scientific disciplines in general were concerned. Though they typically were behind insofar as adopting gunpowder was concerned however, but if you know anything about the efficacy of gunpowder in the middle ages, you'd also realise that this isn't particularly a mark of backwardness. On the other hand, Arabyans were also described as notorious slavers, who had contacts with Norscans (but then again, the Norscans sell slaves to the Kislevites also) and also had decadent, opulent courts.		Insofar as culture and society goes, Araby has been fairly indecisively written. The only thing that's completely clear regarding them is their consummate professionalism in matters of trade and economics. They vie with Cathay for overland spice trade routes that go through the Southlands, and have generally emerged better off from those confrontations than the Cathayans have. Some writers, like the great Rick Priestley, when he made an Arabyan armylist for Warmaster, described the Arabyans much akin to the Islamic World from the 8th - 16th centuries, i.e.: significantly ahead of the Old World insofar as medicine in particular and other scientific disciplines in general were concerned. Though they typically were behind insofar as adopting [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] was concerned however, but if you know anything about the efficacy of [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] in the middle ages, you'd also realise that this isn't particularly a mark of backwardness. On the other hand, Arabyans were also described as notorious slavers, who had contacts with Norscans (but then again, the Norscans sell slaves to the Kislevites also) and also had decadent, opulent courts.

	This disconnect was later justified by writers stating that the Arabyans were a disaggregated society ruled by many Emirs, Sheikhs, and Sultans, with some of them being Orientalist nightmares, while others were more or less competent rulers who governed their domains justly and with respect for the Arts and Sciences. So in a way, Araby is like the decentralised Empire of Man and Kislev to the north: like its real-life development, its potential as a great civilisation to rival its northern counterparts was hampered and stifled by corrupt rulers who limited their more-advanced neighbours from improving their whole nation and its peoples.		This disconnect was later justified by writers stating that the Arabyans were a disaggregated society ruled by many Emirs, Sheikhs, and Sultans, with some of them being Orientalist nightmares, while others were more or less competent rulers who governed their domains justly and with respect for the Arts and Sciences. So in a way, Araby is like the decentralised Empire of Man and Kislev to the north: like its real-life development, its potential as a great civilisation to rival its northern counterparts was hampered and stifled by corrupt rulers who limited their more-advanced neighbours from improving their whole nation and its peoples.

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2600:387:9:9:0:0:0:3F: Call The Golden Magus by his full name say like you would call A pimp named slickback by his full name not just Slickback.

2023-05-07T06:03:51Z

Call The Golden Magus by his full name say like you would call A pimp named slickback by his full name not just Slickback.

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	* '''[[Al Muktar's Desert Dogs\|Al Muktar]]''' - Born Werner Glook of Marienburg he became the leader of a band of [[Dogs of War\|Dogs of War mercenaries]].		* '''[[Al Muktar's Desert Dogs\|Al Muktar]]''' - Born Werner Glook of Marienburg he became the leader of a band of [[Dogs of War\|Dogs of War mercenaries]].
	* '''Fatandira''' - She served as a soldier and mercenary, eventually becoming one of the many [[Border Princes\|border princes]].		* '''Fatandira''' - She served as a soldier and mercenary, eventually becoming one of the many [[Border Princes\|border princes]].
	* '''[[Golden Magus]]''' - Calls himself the "Sultan of the Seas", due to his absurd wealth he is also secretly a tzeentchian sorcerer.		* '''[[The_Golden_Magus\|The Golden Magus]]''' - Calls himself the "Sultan of the Seas", due to his absurd wealth he is also secretly a tzeentchian sorcerer.
	* '''Ibn Jellaba''' - Trader of Araby he tried opening a trade route into the Southlands and met the lizardmen of Zlatlan.		* '''Ibn Jellaba''' - Trader of Araby he tried opening a trade route into the Southlands and met the lizardmen of Zlatlan.
	* '''[[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]]''' - A traitor even before becoming a vampire, the worst thing to come from Araby.		* '''[[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]]''' - A traitor even before becoming a vampire, the worst thing to come from Araby.

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	== Geography and Politics ==		== Geography and Politics ==
			[[File:Oechrlm7fw6n.webp\|right\|500px\|thumb\|The habitable areas of Araby vs the rest of it.]]

	Unsurprisingly, Araby is mostly a vast desert with almost no life in the interior. Most of the cities are situated in the north where rivers from the Atalan Mountains provides fertile soil and the seashores allows the Arabyans dominate trade with other countries, while desert inland territories are inhabited by nomads. Araby only borders [[Nehekhara]] to the east and [[Southlands]] to the south (duh).		Unsurprisingly, Araby is mostly a vast desert with almost no life in the interior. Most of the cities are situated in the north where rivers from the Atalan Mountains provides fertile soil and the seashores allows the Arabyans dominate trade with other countries, while desert inland territories are inhabited by nomads. Araby only borders [[Nehekhara]] to the east and [[Southlands]] to the south (duh).

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Local Flora and Fauna

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	== Local Flora and Fauna ==		== Local Flora and Fauna ==
	Older lore stated a Minor Chaos God named Atagro's rise to godhood involved having to slay a Sandworm like something out of Frank Herbert's "Dune" within the depths of the deserts of Araby at the behest of another Minor Chaos God named Shagraunt. Arabyan Horses are a native breed, and ostriches may be found here, presumably in the savannah closer to the jungles of the Southlands. Panthers apparently live in the area near the Southlands, too. Camels and War Elephants have been mentioned, too.		Older lore stated a Minor Chaos God named Atagro's rise to godhood involved having to slay a Sandworm like something out of Frank Herbert's [[Dune]] within the depths of the deserts of Araby at the behest of another Minor Chaos God named Shagraunt. Arabyan Horses are a native breed, and ostriches may be found here, presumably in the savannah closer to the jungles of the Southlands. Panthers apparently live in the area near the Southlands, too. Camels and War Elephants have been mentioned, too.

	== Collecting Araby ==		== Collecting Araby ==

73.68.28.13: Undo revision 882149 by Newerfag (talk) Have you been living under a goddammit rock the past twenty years?

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Undo revision 882149 by Newerfag (talk) Have you been living under a goddammit rock the past twenty years?

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	== Collecting Araby ==		== Collecting Araby ==
	While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.		While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.

			== "Controversy" ==

			The fantastic portrayal of Arabyans is theorized as one of the reasons for the lack of more recent araby related content but in a setting where [[Sylvania\|"totally not romanians"]] are literal vampires and the [[Norsca\|Norse]] are demon worshipping, mass murdering, backwards cavemen, and [[Brettonia\|Frangland has a 90% tax rate]], subtlety is a rare thing to ask for. Others suggest fear of a terrorist attack on Games Workshop's headquarters as a result of any chance of offending an Islamic extremist as the reason why Araby is avoided like the plague.

	==The Death(?) of Araby==		==The Death(?) of Araby==

1d4chan>Newerfag: Do you have a single piece of evidence to back this up, or is it just paranoia about the inexplicably all-powerful yet absurdly petty "extremists?

2023-03-07T00:49:47Z

Do you have a single piece of evidence to back this up, or is it just paranoia about the inexplicably all-powerful yet absurdly petty "extremists?

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	== Collecting Araby ==		== Collecting Araby ==
	While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.		While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.

	~~== "Controversy" ==~~

	The fantastic portrayal of Arabyans is theorized as one of the reasons for the lack of more recent araby related content but in a setting where [[Sylvania\|"totally not romanians"]] are literal vampires and the [[Norsca\|Norse]] are demon worshipping, mass murdering, backwards cavemen, and [[Brettonia\|Frangland has a 90% tax rate]], subtlety is a rare thing to ask for. Others suggest fear of a terrorist attack on Games Workshop's headquarters as a result of any chance of offending an Islamic extremist as the reason why Araby is avoided like the plague.

	==The Death(?) of Araby==		==The Death(?) of Araby==

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"Controversy"

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	== "Controversy" ==		== "Controversy" ==

	The fantastic portrayal of Arabyans is theorized as one of the reasons for the lack of more recent araby related content but in a setting where [[Sylvania\|"totally not romanians"]] are literal vampires and the [[Norsca\|Norse]] are demon worshipping, mass murdering, backwards cavemen, and [[Brettonia\|Frangland has a 90% tax rate]], subtlety is a rare thing to ask for.		The fantastic portrayal of Arabyans is theorized as one of the reasons for the lack of more recent araby related content but in a setting where [[Sylvania\|"totally not romanians"]] are literal vampires and the [[Norsca\|Norse]] are demon worshipping, mass murdering, backwards cavemen, and [[Brettonia\|Frangland has a 90% tax rate]], subtlety is a rare thing to ask for. Others suggest fear of a terrorist attack on Games Workshop's headquarters as a result of any chance of offending an Islamic extremist as the reason why Araby is avoided like the plague.

	==The Death(?) of Araby==		==The Death(?) of Araby==

73.68.28.13: Undo revision 882124 by Newerfag (talk) (It's obvious that they refused to make any faction based on them for fear of offending a radical and getting their offices Charlie Hebdo'd. Don't try and rewrite history to your liking.)

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Undo revision 882124 by Newerfag (talk) (It's obvious that they refused to make any faction based on them for fear of offending a radical and getting their offices Charlie Hebdo'd. Don't try and rewrite history to your liking.)

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	== Collecting Araby ==		== Collecting Araby ==
	While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.		While interest in Araby as a faction is sadly middeling, there are some fan-made codexes out there, most of them centered around the expected middle eastern/north African fare. Historical miniatures like Victrix African War Elephant and Numidian Cavalry aswell as GBPs Arab cavalry sets should prove treasure troves for the aspiring collector of Araby. In the future there may be some hope for GeeDubs to revive Araby in their upcoming Warhammer: The Old World game, <s>though such a thing remains doubtful as [[ChapterHouse Studios\|they're not exactly easy to trademark]]</s> Recently there was apparently a tweet by a Creative Assembly designer where he posted some Arabyan artwork ostensibly developed in-house by the Old World team which he promptly deleted. Given recent developments that Cathay will be a launch race both in Total War: Warhammer III and in Warhammer: The Old World, the possibility that Araby will once again see the light of the day has become more significant.

			== "Controversy" ==

			The fantastic portrayal of Arabyans is theorized as one of the reasons for the lack of more recent araby related content but in a setting where [[Sylvania\|"totally not romanians"]] are literal vampires and the [[Norsca\|Norse]] are demon worshipping, mass murdering, backwards cavemen, and [[Brettonia\|Frangland has a 90% tax rate]], subtlety is a rare thing to ask for.

	==The Death(?) of Araby==		==The Death(?) of Araby==

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	This disconnect was later justified by writers stating that the Arabyans were a disaggregated society ruled by many Emirs, Sheikhs, and Sultans, with some of them being Orientalist nightmares, while others were more or less competent rulers who governed their domains justly and with respect for the Arts and Sciences. So in a way, Araby is like the decentralised Empire of Man and Kislev to the north: like its real-life development, its potential as a great civilisation to rival its northern counterparts was hampered and stifled by corrupt rulers who limited their more-advanced neighbours from improving their whole nation and its peoples.		This disconnect was later justified by writers stating that the Arabyans were a disaggregated society ruled by many Emirs, Sheikhs, and Sultans, with some of them being Orientalist nightmares, while others were more or less competent rulers who governed their domains justly and with respect for the Arts and Sciences. So in a way, Araby is like the decentralised Empire of Man and Kislev to the north: like its real-life development, its potential as a great civilisation to rival its northern counterparts was hampered and stifled by corrupt rulers who limited their more-advanced neighbours from improving their whole nation and its peoples.

	Because both GW designers and independent fan-writers are both neither as well-informed on historical matters as either thinks to be, most Arabyan armylists and lore, although ostensibly written to evoke the Arabs of the 7-9th centuries, actually ends up invoking the Ottoman Empire, which was Turkic (Warhammer already HAVING analogs for the Turks and Tatars). The actual armies of the Rashidun and Umayyad caliphates still had had a lot of Greek and Roman influence in their equipment, with a preference for spear formations supported by archer auxiliaries, although with more mail armor.		Because both GW designers and independent fan-writers are both neither as well-informed on historical matters as either thinks to be, most Arabyan armylists and lore, although ostensibly written to evoke the Arabs of the 7-9th centuries, actually ends up invoking the Ottoman Empire, which was Turkic (Warhammer already HAVING analogs for the Turks and Tatars). The actual armies of the Rashidun and Umayyad caliphates still had had a lot of Greek and Roman influence in their equipment, with a preference for spear formations supported by archer auxiliaries, although with more mail armor.

	Along the southern borders, the local Southlanders were influenced by Arabyan culture, and they also intermarried with local Arabyans, resulting in a large mixed population.		Along the southern borders, the local Southlanders were influenced by Arabyan culture, and they also intermarried with local Arabyans, resulting in a large mixed population.

	== Relations ==		== Relations ==
	* ''' The Empire''' - While the empires knightly orders are wary of arabyan traders the imperial colony of Sudenburg inside the Gulf of Medes has become a very important enclave for business dealing with the rest of the Old World.		* ''' The Empire''' - While the empires knightly orders are wary of arabyan traders the imperial colony of Sudenburg inside the Gulf of Medes has become a very important enclave for business dealing with the rest of the Old World.

	* '''Bretonnia''' - Some Bretonnian Nobles chose to remain in Araby as lords of newly conquered lands their usual treatment of peasants led to distrust and hatred between them and their arabyan vassals. However Warriors such as [[Repanse de Lyonesse\|Repanse]] & [[The Red Duke\|el Syf]] have earned the respect of arabyans.		* '''Bretonnia''' - Some Bretonnian Nobles chose to remain in Araby as lords of newly conquered lands their usual treatment of peasants led to distrust and hatred between them and their arabyan vassals. However Warriors such as [[Repanse de Lyonesse\|Repanse]] & [[The Red Duke\|el Syf]] have earned the respect of arabyans.
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	* '''Marienburg''' - They do not dominate trade in Araby mostly because of the emirs, sheikhs and caliphs distrust of Marienburg's "government by usury". In contrast adventurous Arabyan traders use Marienburg as a place to sell rare spices and develop their careers thus over the centuries a small but thriving Arabyan community has grown in Marienburg.		* '''Marienburg''' - They do not dominate trade in Araby mostly because of the emirs, sheikhs and caliphs distrust of Marienburg's "government by usury". In contrast adventurous Arabyan traders use Marienburg as a place to sell rare spices and develop their careers thus over the centuries a small but thriving Arabyan community has grown in Marienburg.

	* '''Vampires''' - While [[Abhorash\|Abhorash]] trained arabyan tribes to defend against desert raiders his heroic efforts are sadly surpassed by [[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]] being a traitorous wretch and reviving [[Neferata\|neferata]] causing a long civil war that plagued the nation. In Araby, knowledge of necromancy is not suppressed, and so they do not suffer from the ignorance that allows Vampires to gain footholds amongst them as in the Empire. Only the Blood Dragons have a presence there, and that is in the western desert.		* '''Vampires''' - While [[Abhorash\|Abhorash]] trained arabyan tribes to defend against desert raiders his heroic efforts are sadly surpassed by [[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]] being a traitorous wretch and reviving [[Neferata\|neferata]] causing a long civil war that plagued the nation. In Araby, knowledge of necromancy is not suppressed, and so they do not suffer from the ignorance that allows Vampires to gain footholds amongst them as in the Empire. Only the Blood Dragons have a presence there, and that is in the western desert.

	* ''' The Southlands ''' - The Southlanders who live along the border of Araby were influenced by Arabyan culture, and they also intermarried with Arabyans. Aside from these, much of their cultures were unknown, but presumably primitive due to their isolation these tribes suffered raids by slavers. In contrast the Apemen are mentioned to occasionally go north into the savannahs surrounding the southernmost city of Araby, Ka-Sabar, to make raids.		* ''' The Southlands ''' - The Southlanders who live along the border of Araby were influenced by Arabyan culture, and they also intermarried with Arabyans. Aside from these, much of their cultures were unknown, but presumably primitive due to their isolation these tribes suffered raids by slavers. In contrast the Apemen are mentioned to occasionally go north into the savannahs surrounding the southernmost city of Araby, Ka-Sabar, to make raids.
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	* '''Fatandira''' - She served as a soldier and mercenary, eventually becoming one of the many [[Border Princes\|border princes]].		* '''Fatandira''' - She served as a soldier and mercenary, eventually becoming one of the many [[Border Princes\|border princes]].
	* '''[[The_Golden_Magus\|The Golden Magus]]''' - Calls himself the "Sultan of the Seas", due to his absurd wealth he is also secretly a tzeentchian sorcerer.		* '''[[The_Golden_Magus\|The Golden Magus]]''' - Calls himself the "Sultan of the Seas", due to his absurd wealth he is also secretly a tzeentchian sorcerer.
	* '''Ibn Jellaba''' - Trader of Araby he tried opening a trade route into the Southlands and met the lizardmen of Zlatlan.		* '''Ibn Jellaba''' - Trader of Araby he tried opening a trade route into the Southlands and met the lizardmen of Zlatlan.
	* '''[[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]]''' - A traitor even before becoming a vampire, the worst thing to come from Araby.		* '''[[Mannfred von Carstein\|Khaled al-Muntasir]]''' - A traitor even before becoming a vampire, the worst thing to come from Araby.
	* '''Khar-mel the Djinn''' - A female genie armed with a scimitar, her apparitions are usually a cloud of dust or fire.		* '''Khar-mel the Djinn''' - A female genie armed with a scimitar, her apparitions are usually a cloud of dust or fire.
	* '''Mehmed-bey''' - One of Jaffar's top generals, he is widely believed to have been slain in combat by the Red Duke.		* '''Mehmed-bey''' - One of Jaffar's top generals, he is widely believed to have been slain in combat by the Red Duke.
	* '''Suliman the Saracen''' - Friend of Baron Odo of Outremer they fought in opposite sides but became best bro's later.		* '''Suliman the Saracen''' - Friend of Baron Odo of Outremer they fought in opposite sides but became best bro's later.
	* '''Sultan Jaffar''' - The tyrant king of Araby, a sorcerer & a slaver still less evil than Khaled for [[End Times\|obvious reasons]].		* '''Sultan Jaffar''' - The tyrant king of Araby, a sorcerer & a slaver still less evil than Khaled for [[End Times\|obvious reasons]].
	* '''Shihab Ibn Alim''' - Arabyan sorcerer in the service of the Sultan of Copher he can control genies.		* '''Shihab Ibn Alim''' - Arabyan sorcerer in the service of the Sultan of Copher he can control genies.

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	===Enter WAP===		===Enter WAP===
	Being made by fans, for fans, the [[Warhammer Army Project]] doesn't give a shit about the potential of "bad optics", so they went right ahead and did their own take on the Araby army for their 9th edition project.		Being made by fans, for fans, the [[Warhammer Army Project]] doesn't give a shit about the potential of "bad optics", so they went right ahead and did their own take on the Araby army for their 9th edition project.

	The standard Lords and Heroes of the army are called, collectively, '''Commanders''', with the Lord-tier ''Emir'' and the Hero-tier ''Shiek''. These represent the various noblemen turned army commanders, which are obligatory in any [[human]]-based Warhammer army.		The standard Lords and Heroes of the army are called, collectively, '''Commanders''', with the Lord-tier ''Emir'' and the Hero-tier ''Shiek''. These represent the various noblemen turned army commanders, which are obligatory in any [[human]]-based Warhammer army.