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	* [[Sairazul]], the Crystalline Queen		* [[Sairazul]], the Crystalline Queen

	These eight aren't the only demigods of the elemental planes though. Feronia is described as a neutrally aligned demigod from the plane of fire. She was once briefly the wife of [[Archdevil]] Dispater, a union that is best known for producing Ragathiel, the <s>[[Archangel]]</s> Empyreal Lord of vengeance and righteous [[RAGE]].		These eight aren't the only demigods of the elemental planes though. Feronia is described as a neutrally aligned demigod from the plane of fire. She was once briefly the wife of [[Archdevil]] Dispater, a union that is best known for producing Ragathiel, the <s>[[Archangel]]</s> [[Empyreal Lord]] of vengeance and righteous [[RAGE]].

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Corrected the details on the para- and quasi-elemental archomentals. Added a D&D references list if anyone wants to help me expand this article and its subarticles.

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Corrected the details on the para- and quasi-elemental archomentals. Added a D&D references list if anyone wants to help me expand this article and its subarticles.

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 ==Dungeons & Dragons==
 ===1st Edition===
-Lewis Pulsipher created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the Fiend Folio sourcebook.
+Lewis Pulsipher created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the [[Fiend Folio]] sourcebook.
 ===2nd Edition===
-[[Planescape]] brought the archomentals back and gave them counterparts (since this was the Grid-Filling Edition), the Princes of Elemental Good; [[Sunnis]] of Earth, [[Chan]] of Air, [[Ben-Hadar]] of Water and [[Zaaman Rul]] of Fire. None of them made an appearance until the 3rd of the [[Planescape]] Monstrous Compendium Appendixes, which focused on the denizens of the [[Elemental Planes]]. Why did they go out of their way to fill this grid without adding a Good-aligned Ice archomental or any Archomentals at all for any of the other three paraelemental planes? Good question!
+[[Planescape]] brought the archomentals back and gave them counterparts (since this was the Grid-Filling Edition), the Princes of Elemental Good; [[Sunnis]] of Earth, [[Chan]] of Air, [[Ben-Hadar]] of Water and [[Zaaman Rul]] of Fire. None of them made an appearance until the 3rd of the [[Planescape]] Monstrous Compendium Appendixes, which focused on the denizens of the [[Elemental Planes]].
 ===3rd Edition===
-The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. This edition also introduced the other three Archomentals of the [[Elemental Planes|Paraelemental Planes]] besides Cryonax: Bwimb of Ooze, Ehkahk of Smoke, and Chilimba of Magma. Unlike Cryonax, none of them received stats.
+The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. The lesser Archomentals get namedropped, but nothing major - that said, a new Quasi-Archomental, [[Ty-h'kadi]] of Lightning, is named in Dragon #347's article on the Princes of Elemental Evil.
 ===4th Edition===
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 * Istishia: Faerunian deity of elemental water retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
 * Kossuth: Faerunian deity of elemental fire retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
 [https://web.archive.org/web/20200830221717/http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_element1.pdf There's also this big list of Primordials that appeared in "The Plane Below" sourcebook for 4e, which WoTC generously put up on their website for ease of access.]
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 Of the primordials that originated in Fourth Edition, Maegera alone is provided a statblock in Storm King's Thunder.
 ==Pathfinder==

1d4chan>VoidKnight: Broken link, plus added the Faerunian elemental deities

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Broken link, plus added the Faerunian elemental deities

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	* Ulctilantilokla: A primordial that only partially exists in reality, birthed from the multiverse’s first dream, also roams free. Source: The Plane Below.		* Ulctilantilokla: A primordial that only partially exists in reality, birthed from the multiverse’s first dream, also roams free. Source: The Plane Below.
	* Tziphal the Mountain Builder: Primordial of folding earth, petrification, and volcanoes, is said to have created many of the creatures that possess the power of petrification. He was defeated in the Dawn War and imprisoned in a barrow in the Elemental Chaos, shifted slightly into the past so the barrow cannot be tampered with. Source: The Plane Below.		* Tziphal the Mountain Builder: Primordial of folding earth, petrification, and volcanoes, is said to have created many of the creatures that possess the power of petrification. He was defeated in the Dawn War and imprisoned in a barrow in the Elemental Chaos, shifted slightly into the past so the barrow cannot be tampered with. Source: The Plane Below.
			* Akadi: Faerunian deity of elemental air retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
			* Grumbar: Faerunian deity of elemental earth retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
			* Istishia: Faerunian deity of elemental water retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
			* Kossuth: Faerunian deity of elemental fire retconned into being a primordial. Source: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.

	[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_element1.pdf There's also this big list of Primordials that appeared in "The Plane Below" sourcebook for 4e, which WoTC generously put up on their website for ease of access.]
			[https://web.archive.org/web/20200830221717/http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_element1.pdf There's also this big list of Primordials that appeared in "The Plane Below" sourcebook for 4e, which WoTC generously put up on their website for ease of access.]

	===5th Edition===		===5th Edition===

1d4chan>FenaTiX: Re-organized the page

2022-05-22T11:30:03Z

Re-organized the page

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	'''Archomentals''' are a storied race of beings from [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. They are essentially the "exemplars" (gods/leaders) of the Elementals.		'''Archomentals''' are a storied race of beings from [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. They are essentially the "exemplars" (gods/leaders) of the Elementals.

	==1st Edition==		==Dungeons & Dragons==
			===1st Edition===
	Lewis Pulsipher created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the Fiend Folio sourcebook.		Lewis Pulsipher created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the Fiend Folio sourcebook.

	==2nd Edition==		===2nd Edition===
	[[Planescape]] brought the archomentals back and gave them counterparts (since this was the Grid-Filling Edition), the Princes of Elemental Good; [[Sunnis]] of Earth, [[Chan]] of Air, [[Ben-Hadar]] of Water and [[Zaaman Rul]] of Fire. None of them made an appearance until the 3rd of the [[Planescape]] Monstrous Compendium Appendixes, which focused on the denizens of the [[Elemental Planes]]. Why did they go out of their way to fill this grid without adding a Good-aligned Ice archomental or any Archomentals at all for any of the other three paraelemental planes? Good question!		[[Planescape]] brought the archomentals back and gave them counterparts (since this was the Grid-Filling Edition), the Princes of Elemental Good; [[Sunnis]] of Earth, [[Chan]] of Air, [[Ben-Hadar]] of Water and [[Zaaman Rul]] of Fire. None of them made an appearance until the 3rd of the [[Planescape]] Monstrous Compendium Appendixes, which focused on the denizens of the [[Elemental Planes]]. Why did they go out of their way to fill this grid without adding a Good-aligned Ice archomental or any Archomentals at all for any of the other three paraelemental planes? Good question!

	==3rd Edition==		===3rd Edition===
	The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. This edition also introduced the other three Archomentals of the [[Elemental Planes\|Paraelemental Planes]] besides Cryonax: Bwimb of Ooze, Ehkahk of Smoke, and Chilimba of Magma. Unlike Cryonax, none of them received stats.		The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. This edition also introduced the other three Archomentals of the [[Elemental Planes\|Paraelemental Planes]] besides Cryonax: Bwimb of Ooze, Ehkahk of Smoke, and Chilimba of Magma. Unlike Cryonax, none of them received stats.

	==4th Edition==		===4th Edition===
	[[File:Mual-Tar.jpg\|250px\|thumb\|left\|Mual-Tar, the Thunder Serpent in its prison.]]		[[File:Mual-Tar.jpg\|250px\|thumb\|left\|Mual-Tar, the Thunder Serpent in its prison.]]
	In 4e, archomentals, renamed "Primordials", got a HUGE [[PROMOTIONS\|promotion]]. With [[Nentir_Vale\|Points of Light]] mythos styled after ancient Greco-Roman myths, the multiverse was now created originally by the Primordials/Archomentals, with the Gods coming along later and adding permanency and mortal life to everything. This ticked off the Primordials, and so they fought the Dawn War. The gods killed and imprisoned a huge bunch of Primordials, and others were corrupted into the first Demon Lords, and so the Dawn War came to an end.		In 4e, archomentals, renamed "Primordials", got a HUGE [[PROMOTIONS\|promotion]]. With [[Nentir_Vale\|Points of Light]] mythos styled after ancient Greco-Roman myths, the multiverse was now created originally by the Primordials/Archomentals, with the Gods coming along later and adding permanency and mortal life to everything. This ticked off the Primordials, and so they fought the Dawn War. The gods killed and imprisoned a huge bunch of Primordials, and others were corrupted into the first Demon Lords, and so the Dawn War came to an end.
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	[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_element1.pdf There's also this big list of Primordials that appeared in "The Plane Below" sourcebook for 4e, which WoTC generously put up on their website for ease of access.]		[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_element1.pdf There's also this big list of Primordials that appeared in "The Plane Below" sourcebook for 4e, which WoTC generously put up on their website for ease of access.]

	==5th Edition==		===5th Edition===
	The original Archomentals are back in a huge way, serving as the final bosses of the Princes of the Apocalypse story book from Wizards itself. This being the Nostalgia Fueled Edition, they've reclaimed their titles of "Princes of Elemental Evil" and are once more the servants/partners/minions/spawn of [[Tharizdun]] in his guise as the Elder Elemental Eye. They have statblocks, and while they're nerfed a bit from their old forms, they can still murder whole parties thanks to their absurd AOE abilities. Cryonax isn't kicking around much, but the other four are still active and trying to vigorously expand their cults by preying on mentally unbalanced adventurers in the [[Forgotten Realms]] and [[Greyhawk]]. Cryonax does get a mention, though, as potentially being controlled by a powerful magic ring that [[Giant\|Frost Giants]] spend all of Storm Kings' Thunder and Tomb of Annihilation trying to steal.		The original Archomentals are back in a huge way, serving as the final bosses of the Princes of the Apocalypse story book from Wizards itself. This being the Nostalgia Fueled Edition, they've reclaimed their titles of "Princes of Elemental Evil" and are once more the servants/partners/minions/spawn of [[Tharizdun]] in his guise as the Elder Elemental Eye. They have statblocks, and while they're nerfed a bit from their old forms, they can still murder whole parties thanks to their absurd AOE abilities. Cryonax isn't kicking around much, but the other four are still active and trying to vigorously expand their cults by preying on mentally unbalanced adventurers in the [[Forgotten Realms]] and [[Greyhawk]]. Cryonax does get a mention, though, as potentially being controlled by a powerful magic ring that [[Giant\|Frost Giants]] spend all of Storm Kings' Thunder and Tomb of Annihilation trying to steal.

1d4chan>Nubnuber at 01:09, 26 October 2021

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	[[File:2e Archomentals.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|The nine iconic archomentals of [[Planescape]]. From left to right, top to bottom: [[Zaaman Rul]], [[Ben-Hadar]], [[Chan]], [[Cryonax]], [[Sunnis]], [[Imix]], [[Yan-C-Bin]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Ogremoch]].]]		[[File:2e Archomentals.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|The nine iconic archomentals of [[Planescape]]. From left to right, top to bottom: [[Zaaman Rul]], [[Ben-Hadar]], [[Chan]], [[Cryonax]], [[Sunnis]], [[Imix]], [[Yan-C-Bin]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Ogremoch]].]]
	Archomentals are a storied race of beings from [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. They are essentially the "exemplars" (gods/leaders) of the Elementals.		'''Archomentals''' are a storied race of beings from [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. They are essentially the "exemplars" (gods/leaders) of the Elementals.

	==1st Edition==		==1st Edition==
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	==3rd Edition==		==3rd Edition==
	The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. This edition also introduced the ~~concept of~~ Archomentals of the [[Elemental Planes\|Paraelemental Planes]]~~, though only five are mentioned (~~Bwimb of Ooze, Ehkahk of Smoke, Chilimba of Magma ~~and [[~~Cryonax]] of ~~Ice) and only Cryonax got~~ stats.		The Archomentals were given their official name of "Archomental" in [[Dragon Magazine]] for this era, with the Archomentals of Evil appearing in Dragon #347 and their Good counterparts appearing in Dragon #353. This edition also introduced the other three Archomentals of the [[Elemental Planes\|Paraelemental Planes]] besides Cryonax: Bwimb of Ooze, Ehkahk of Smoke, and Chilimba of Magma. Unlike Cryonax, none of them received stats.

	==4th Edition==		==4th Edition==

2603:8080:8F00:46B:B85D:245B:BB0:BB0C: Gygax did not create the Princes of Elemental Evil, people. See the original Fiend Folio, p.121.

2021-01-11T11:28:33Z

Gygax did not create the Princes of Elemental Evil, people. See the original Fiend Folio, p.121.

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	==1st Edition==		==1st Edition==
	~~[[Gary Gygax]]~~ created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the Fiend Folio sourcebook.		Lewis Pulsipher created the first archomentals - or, as he called them, "Princes of Elemental Evil" - in this edition. They basically served the same purpose as demon lords and arch devils, but for the elemental planes of Earth ([[Ogremoch]]), Fire ([[Imix]]), Air ([[Yan-C-Bin]]), Water ([[Olhydra]]) and Cold ([[Cryonax]]). These appeared in the Fiend Folio sourcebook.

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==

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5th Edition

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	==5th Edition==		==5th Edition==
	The original Archomentals are back in a huge way, serving as the final bosses of the Princes of the Apocalypse story book from Wizards itself. This being the Nostalgia Fueled Edition, they've reclaimed their titles of "Princes of Elemental Evil" and are once more the servants/partners/minions/spawn of [[Tharizdun]] in his guise as the Elder Elemental Eye. They have statblocks, and while they're nerfed a bit from their old forms, they can still murder whole parties thanks to their absurd AOE abilities. Cryonax isn't kicking around much, but the other four are still active and trying to vigorously expand their cults by preying on mentally unbalanced adventurers in the [[Forgotten Realms]] and [[Greyhawk]]. Cryonax does get a mention, though, as potentially being controlled by a powerful magic ring that [[Giant\|Frost Giants]] spend all of Storm Kings' Thunder and Tomb of Annihilation trying to steal.		The original Archomentals are back in a huge way, serving as the final bosses of the Princes of the Apocalypse story book from Wizards itself. This being the Nostalgia Fueled Edition, they've reclaimed their titles of "Princes of Elemental Evil" and are once more the servants/partners/minions/spawn of [[Tharizdun]] in his guise as the Elder Elemental Eye. They have statblocks, and while they're nerfed a bit from their old forms, they can still murder whole parties thanks to their absurd AOE abilities. Cryonax isn't kicking around much, but the other four are still active and trying to vigorously expand their cults by preying on mentally unbalanced adventurers in the [[Forgotten Realms]] and [[Greyhawk]]. Cryonax does get a mention, though, as potentially being controlled by a powerful magic ring that [[Giant\|Frost Giants]] spend all of Storm Kings' Thunder and Tomb of Annihilation trying to steal.

			Of the primordials that originated in Fourth Edition, Maegera alone is provided a statblock in Storm King's Thunder.

	==Pathfinder==		==Pathfinder==

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Pathfinder */

2020-06-10T13:41:15Z

Pathfinder

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	Evil		Evil
	* Ayrzul, the Fossilized King		* [[Ayrzul]], the Fossilized King
	* Hshurha, Duchess of All Winds		* [[Hshurha]], Duchess of All Winds
	* Kelizandri, the Brackish Emperor		* [[Kelizandri]], the Brackish Emperor
	* Ymeri, Queen of the Inferno		* [[Ymeri]], Queen of the Inferno

	Good		Good
	* Atreia, The Lambent Prince		* [[Atreia]], The Lambent Prince
	* Ranginori, Duke of Thunder		* [[Ranginori]], Duke of Thunder
	* Lysianassa, Empress of the Torrent		* [[Lysianassa]], Empress of the Torrent
	* Sairazul, the Crystalline Queen		* [[Sairazul]], the Crystalline Queen

	These eight aren't the only demigods of the elemental planes though. Feronia is described as a neutrally aligned demigod from the plane of fire. She was once briefly the wife of [[Archdevil]] Dispater, a union that is best known for producing Ragathiel, the <s>[[Archangel]]</s> Empyreal Lord of vengeance and righteous [[RAGE]].		These eight aren't the only demigods of the elemental planes though. Feronia is described as a neutrally aligned demigod from the plane of fire. She was once briefly the wife of [[Archdevil]] Dispater, a union that is best known for producing Ragathiel, the <s>[[Archangel]]</s> Empyreal Lord of vengeance and righteous [[RAGE]].

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* 4th Edition */

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4th Edition

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	In 4e, archomentals, renamed "Primordials", got a HUGE [[PROMOTIONS\|promotion]]. With [[Nentir_Vale\|Points of Light]] mythos styled after ancient Greco-Roman myths, the multiverse was now created originally by the Primordials/Archomentals, with the Gods coming along later and adding permanency and mortal life to everything. This ticked off the Primordials, and so they fought the Dawn War. The gods killed and imprisoned a huge bunch of Primordials, and others were corrupted into the first Demon Lords, and so the Dawn War came to an end.		In 4e, archomentals, renamed "Primordials", got a HUGE [[PROMOTIONS\|promotion]]. With [[Nentir_Vale\|Points of Light]] mythos styled after ancient Greco-Roman myths, the multiverse was now created originally by the Primordials/Archomentals, with the Gods coming along later and adding permanency and mortal life to everything. This ticked off the Primordials, and so they fought the Dawn War. The gods killed and imprisoned a huge bunch of Primordials, and others were corrupted into the first Demon Lords, and so the Dawn War came to an end.

	Because 4e went for the Elemental Chaos rather than the rigid grid-system of Planescape and its Elemental, Quasimental and Paraelemental Planes, its Primordials were a ''very'' diverse bunch, with figures like Atropus (imagine a frigging planet made of undead flesh 'n' bone and you got the right idea), Iktha-Lau (embodiment of deep space and the empty void) and Mual-tar (a freaking huge-ass dragon-thing of stormclouds and lightning chained down by rune-etched chains with links the size of castles).		Because 4e went for the Elemental Chaos rather than the rigid grid-system of Planescape and its Elemental, Quasimental and Paraelemental Planes, its Primordials were a ''very'' diverse bunch, with figures like [[Atropus]] (imagine a frigging planet made of undead flesh 'n' bone and you got the right idea), [[Iktha-Lau]] (embodiment of deep space and the empty void) and [[Mual-tar]] (a freaking huge-ass dragon-thing of stormclouds and lightning chained down by rune-etched chains with links the size of castles).

	For a tentative list - and do note that some of these appeared in earlier editions as either Archomentals or elemental gods...		For a tentative list - and do note that some of these appeared in earlier editions as either Archomentals or elemental gods...