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	[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]		[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]

	It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]].		It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]]. Or rather, grimderp depending on what actual needs the Golden Throne/Emperor really have.

	The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.		The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.

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	==That Other Thing==		==That Other Thing==

	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

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	New Black Library books by Guy Haley shed some more light (nerp derp puns) on the situation. The light of the Astonomican is able, sometimes, to slowly melt back the taint of lesser Warp Storms, and at one point Guilliman outright says that Warp travel in the post Great Rift era is harder in areas where the Astronomican isn't shining, even if there are no active Warp Storms going on. That implies that the light of the Astronomican itself is somehow, making the Warp less fucky to fly through, which might go some way to explain why the Dark Gods call Biggie E Anathema. He's been aggressively glowing at them for eleven thousand years or more. Remember, the Astronomican came online in M30.8**, and the book Plague Wars is set in M42.111, so that's eleven millennia of him peeing in their garden without stopping.		New Black Library books by Guy Haley shed some more light (nerp derp puns) on the situation. The light of the Astonomican is able, sometimes, to slowly melt back the taint of lesser Warp Storms, and at one point Guilliman outright says that Warp travel in the post Great Rift era is harder in areas where the Astronomican isn't shining, even if there are no active Warp Storms going on. That implies that the light of the Astronomican itself is somehow, making the Warp less fucky to fly through, which might go some way to explain why the Dark Gods call Biggie E Anathema. He's been aggressively glowing at them for eleven thousand years or more. Remember, the Astronomican came online in M30.8**, and the book Plague Wars is set in M42.111, so that's eleven millennia of him peeing in their garden without stopping.

	== Gallery ==		==Gallery==
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	The Astronomican is a device created by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] in preparation for the founding of the [[Imperium of Man]]. Following the Golden Age of Technology, humanity was cut off from its colony worlds due to violent [[Warp]] storms and the loss of its own [[Scythes_of_the_Emperor\|beacon grid]], rendering it unable to safely traverse the Warp. While the Warp storms died out around M29, it was all but impossible for [[Navigator]]s to safely guide space ships through it. To solve this, the Emperor created the Astronomican, a device which acts as a psychic "lighthouse", allowing warp-travel in a 50,000 light year radius of [[Terra]] (you can still go outside that, but it will be difficult to navigate and you better hope the Gellar Field doesn't fizzle out).The galactic core is 26,000 light years away from earth, while the whole galaxy is 105,700 light years, so the Astronomican can, roughly, cover half the galaxy. The Emperor eventually planned to phase out Warp travel completely with the construction of an Imperial [[Webway]], but [[Magnus\|one guy]] accidentally ruined it, which led to an immeasurable amount of rage due to [[Not as planned]], both from Big E. himself and the fan-base alike.		The Astronomican is a device created by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] in preparation for the founding of the [[Imperium of Man]]. Following the Golden Age of Technology, humanity was cut off from its colony worlds due to violent [[Warp]] storms and the loss of its own [[Scythes_of_the_Emperor\|beacon grid]], rendering it unable to safely traverse the Warp. While the Warp storms died out around M29, it was all but impossible for [[Navigator]]s to safely guide space ships through it. To solve this, the Emperor created the Astronomican, a device which acts as a psychic "lighthouse", allowing warp-travel in a 50,000 light year radius of [[Terra]] (you can still go outside that, but it will be difficult to navigate and you better hope the Gellar Field doesn't fizzle out).The galactic core is 26,000 light years away from earth, while the whole galaxy is 105,700 light years, so the Astronomican can, roughly, cover half the galaxy. The Emperor eventually planned to phase out Warp travel completely with the construction of an Imperial [[Webway]], but [[Magnus\|one guy]] accidentally ruined it, which led to an immeasurable amount of rage due to [[Not as planned]], both from Big E. himself and the fan-base alike.

	Following his entombment to the Golden Throne, the running of the Astronomican fell to the Adeptus Astronomica. It's overseen by the Master of the Astronomican, who has a permanent seat on the council with the [[High Lords of Terra]]. Given the sheer amount of psychic power contained within the device, the Emperor's mind is used to direct the power of the Astronomican. To keep it running, one thousand [[psyker]]s are rounded up '''every day''' and sacrificed to power the Astronomican. Unlike the ones sacrificed to maintain the Golden Throne, these psykers are trained to keep it running and consider it a holy duty to sacrifice their lives... At least if you take things at face value like the Adeptus presents it. And while it is true their sacrifice is a vital necessity for the Imperium, a more cynical view is that the device is a trash compactor for unwanted psykers: those that are weak of mind, powerful but outright insane or just happened to piss someone off. By keeping it active, humanity has a guaranteed way of navigating the [[Warp]] but also an ostensibly laudable way of "depositing" dangerous psykers and keeping the Imperium "functioning".		Following his entombment to the Golden Throne, the running of the Astronomican fell to the Adeptus Astronomica. It's overseen by the Master of the Astronomican, who has a permanent seat on the council with the [[High Lords of Terra]]. Given the sheer amount of psychic power contained within the device, the Emperor's mind is used to direct the power of the Astronomican. To keep it running, one thousand [[psyker]]s are rounded up '''every day''' and sacrificed to power the Astronomican. Unlike the ones sacrificed to maintain the Golden Throne, these psykers are trained to keep it running and consider it a holy duty to sacrifice their lives... At least if you take things at face value like the Adeptus presents it. And while it is true their sacrifice is a vital necessity for the Imperium, a more cynical view is that the device is a trash compactor for unwanted psykers: those that are weak of mind, powerful but outright insane or just happened to piss someone off. By keeping it active, humanity has a guaranteed way of navigating the [[Warp]] but also an ostensibly laudable way of "depositing" dangerous psykers and keeping the Imperium "functioning".

	[[File:Psyker Sacrifices.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|Inside the Chamber of the Astronomican.]]		[[File:Psyker Sacrifices.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|Inside the Chamber of the Astronomican.]]
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	[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]		[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]

	It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]].		It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]].

	The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.		The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.
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	There's only one real drawback to having the Astronomican (you know, aside from whole [[Grimdark\|sacrifice of a thousand innocents per day]]): it's attracting the [[Tyranids]] to Terra (they were already on their way to the Milky Way due to the [[Imperium Secundus\|Pharos]]) like a swarm of mosquitoes to an infra-red torch so it should really be renamed to the [[Derp\|Astro-NOM-ican]]. Is this a drawback? Who knows? Maybe Big-E needs the 'nidz to set him free from his Golden prison. After all, their presence would likely close the warp rift in the Eternity Gate as it is so small and their Shadow in the Warp is so large. Additionally if you want an entire army to attack one point, you may as well have it attack the most heavily defended point you have. Holy Terra fits that bill so who knows how many planets are being spared because the nids are focusing on the Astronomican?		There's only one real drawback to having the Astronomican (you know, aside from whole [[Grimdark\|sacrifice of a thousand innocents per day]]): it's attracting the [[Tyranids]] to Terra (they were already on their way to the Milky Way due to the [[Imperium Secundus\|Pharos]]) like a swarm of mosquitoes to an infra-red torch so it should really be renamed to the [[Derp\|Astro-NOM-ican]]. Is this a drawback? Who knows? Maybe Big-E needs the 'nidz to set him free from his Golden prison. After all, their presence would likely close the warp rift in the Eternity Gate as it is so small and their Shadow in the Warp is so large. Additionally if you want an entire army to attack one point, you may as well have it attack the most heavily defended point you have. Holy Terra fits that bill so who knows how many planets are being spared because the nids are focusing on the Astronomican?

	Another 'drawback' to the Astronomican is that it's a lighthouse, and every one can use it. In theory if the [[Tau]] or [[Q'Orl]] could develop the ability to 'see' the light the way Navigators can then they too could use it, though the effectiveness of the former might be limited due to their weak soul-presence though Tau are Xenophile enough that in theory they could recruit some navigator defectors, and the latter limited by their current existence in canon being dubious at best. This has potentially hilarious implications, as you would suddenly have a xenos species dependent on keeping the Imperium around in order to facilitate the expansion of their own empire.		Another 'drawback' to the Astronomican is that it's a lighthouse, and every one can use it. In theory if the [[Tau]] or [[Q'Orl]] could develop the ability to 'see' the light the way Navigators can then they too could use it, though the effectiveness of the former might be limited due to their weak soul-presence though Tau are Xenophile enough that in theory they could recruit some navigator defectors, and the latter limited by their current existence in canon being dubious at best. This has potentially hilarious implications, as you would suddenly have a xenos species dependent on keeping the Imperium around in order to facilitate the expansion of their own empire.

	There have been a case or two of chaos exploiting the light such as [[Shon'tu]] using a navigator, who of course would have had to have been using the Astronomican, to drop a hive ship within 100 light years (read: galactic spitting distances) of Terra.		There have been a case or two of chaos exploiting the light such as [[Shon'tu]] using a navigator, who of course would have had to have been using the Astronomican, to drop a hive ship within 100 light years (read: galactic spitting distances) of Terra.
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	==That Other Thing==		==That Other Thing==

	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].
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	==The Imperium Nihilo==		==The Imperium Nihilo==
	New Black Library books by Guy Haley shed some more light (nerp derp puns) on the situation. The light of the Astonomican is able, sometimes, to slowly melt back the taint of lesser Warp Storms, and at one point Guilliman outright says that Warp travel in the post Great Rift era is harder in areas where the Astronomican isn't shining, even if there are no active Warp Storms going on. That implies that the light of the Astronomican itself is somehow, making the Warp less fucky to fly through, which might go some way to explain why the Dark Gods call Biggie E Anathema. He's been aggressively glowing at them for eleven thousand years or more. Remember, the Astronomican came online in M30.8**, and the book Plague Wars is set in M42.111, so that's eleven millennia of him peeing in their garden without stopping.		New Black Library books by Guy Haley shed some more light (nerp derp puns) on the situation. The light of the Astonomican is able, sometimes, to slowly melt back the taint of lesser Warp Storms, and at one point Guilliman outright says that Warp travel in the post Great Rift era is harder in areas where the Astronomican isn't shining, even if there are no active Warp Storms going on. That implies that the light of the Astronomican itself is somehow, making the Warp less fucky to fly through, which might go some way to explain why the Dark Gods call Biggie E Anathema. He's been aggressively glowing at them for eleven thousand years or more. Remember, the Astronomican came online in M30.8**, and the book Plague Wars is set in M42.111, so that's eleven millennia of him peeing in their garden without stopping.

	== Gallery ==		== Gallery ==

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	In all seriousness, the lore depicts response fleets arriving even while invaders are still off-loading troops or after the battle has peaked but before it can swing either way. This implies Imperial Warp travel is usually very reliable and extremely quick. The rapidity of the Great Crusade itself also supports this.		In all seriousness, the lore depicts response fleets arriving even while invaders are still off-loading troops or after the battle has peaked but before it can swing either way. This implies Imperial Warp travel is usually very reliable and extremely quick. The rapidity of the Great Crusade itself also supports this.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too which, as we know, [[Grimderp\|is rather asking a lot in 40K]].

	==The Imperium Nihilo==		==The Imperium Nihilo==

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].

	In all seriousness, the lore depicts response fleets arriving even while invaders are still off-loading troops or after the battle has peaked but before it can swing either way. This implies Imperial Warp travel is usually very reliable and extremely quick. The rapidity of the Great Crusade itself also supports this.		In all seriousness, the lore depicts response fleets arriving even while invaders are still off-loading troops or after the battle has peaked but before it can swing either way. This implies Imperial Warp travel is usually very reliable and extremely quick. The rapidity of the Great Crusade itself also supports this.

			Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too.

	==The Imperium Nihilo==		==The Imperium Nihilo==

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any ~~obscure groups~~ [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer ~~Cults~~\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet ~~continues~~ to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any obscure groups [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cults\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet continues to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that, the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that, the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that, the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].

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	[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]		[[File:Dome of the Astronomican.webp\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The giant metal sphere that holds the Astronomican.]]

	It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]].		It lights up the warp, Council-of-Nikaea-beacon style, filling minds of psykers with holy singing, thoughts of martyrdom and images of [[Living Saint]]s of course. While sacrificing the trillions upon trillions of humans on Terra. Typical [[Eldrad\|dickery]]- though on second thought, [[Mortarion\|there]] [[Lorgar\|are]] [[Perturabo\|many]] examples. The fact that the psykers are sacrificed and are not allowed to rest between sessions is also a typical source of [[grimdark]]. Or rather, grimderp depending on what actual needs the Golden Throne/Emperor really have.

	The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.		The ''Talon of Horus'' book by [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] describes... interesting side effects of the Astronomican activity. Where its light collides with a potent [[Warp Storm]], like the [[Eye of Terror]] or the [[Maelstrom]], the mix of both creates the Firetide: a rim of space fucked up so hard even daemons are afraid of it. Not only do they get quickly burned by its walls of holy warp-fire, these are also inhabited by warp-spirits that could be described as flaming angels; just like Chaos daemons, they don't mind slaughtering, raping, and eating chaos worshipers (who, if they are very lucky, will suffer this fate in that order). These "angels" are known to cleanse their territory of all life oldcron-style, no matter its allegiance, but unlike daemons, these spirits cannot be reasoned with, as they are as insane from millennia of intolerable pain and suffering, probably just like the [[God-Emperor of Man\|source that gave them life]]. The Firetide engulfs multiple "Radiant Worlds", planets touched by the golden psychic storm without being burned by it. In these regions, the Astronomican can manifest an avatar of the Emperor's will known as Imperious, an actually way nicer chap than these postal-going "angels" described earlier, taking the form of a humble pilgrim wearing a Scream mask of gold and light.

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	It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.		It's not mentioned much, but the Adeptus Astronomica '''is''' the single most important organization in the entire Imperium. Without it, there is no Imperium. Humanity is only able to leverage its numbers and make war on a galactic scale because of the reliability of its warp travel. Yes, sometimes ships are lost to the Warp or arrive two centuries too late. However, sometimes every successor chapter answers a call and arrives to bail out [[Baal]] or [[Terra]] all at once. Sometimes crusades of hundreds of ships go cleansing a path hundreds of star systems wide. No other race in the galaxy has the same combined [[Tyranids\|numbers]], [[Eldar\|reactiveness]] and [[Tau\|coordination]], and it is owed to the Astronomican. The last time Mankind was unable to make use of Warp, the first intergalactic empire Mankind had (this was before the Age of Strife, in fact it was the same government that ruled at the time of the Dark Age of Technology, implied to be some form of corrupt but functional and effective democracy) fell apart, entire planets lost contact with each other, Terra became a shitpit (And THAT forced the Emperor to come out of the shadows and begin his preparations to end the Age of Strife), AND it was even smaller than the Imperium of Man, AND that time period didn't have all the nasty shit that plagues the galaxy today.

	Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any ~~obscure groups~~ [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer ~~Cults~~\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet ~~continues~~ to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management.		Arguably, the '''real''' reason (beyond the plain absolutist argument of [[heresy]]!) as to why the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] should be left to maintain his brutal, uncaring and overall dystopic [[Imperium]] is that the vast majority of humanity utterly '''''needs''''' the Astronomican working at tip-top shape (all those [[Hive World]]s with their highly-cramped living spaces surrounded by nigh-uninhabitable barren wastelands are ''not'' the least bit self-sustaining in the foodstuffs department) lest countless trillions or even quadrillions starve if Warp travel becomes unfeasible and supply ships can't reach their destinations...so if one cared about human lives, simply trying to overthrow the Imperium's clearly-horrible system would tragically never work without some viable replacement of the Astronomican to facilitate Warp travel or otherwise leaving the Emperor and his daily meal intake be entirely...and successfully overthrowing all other sources of authority in the [[Imperium]] while doing the latter would probably cause [[Tzeentch]] to bow out and admit you've bettered him. The best an Imperial planet could probably hope for is ousting their asshole planetary governor in a quick and sudden coup while keeping the fuck away from any [[Chaos Cults\|obscure]] [[Genestealer Cult\|groups]] offering to help, after which the planet manages to improve living standards while continuing to pay their [[Imperial Tithe]] in full and on time so the [[Administratum]] probably won't bat an eye about the new management...and they're lucky enough that the [[Administratum]] isn't saddling them with a nigh-impossible tithe too.

	Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].		Also warp travel being what it is sometimes it fucks up in a beneficial way and [[What\|the fleet arrives several years before it left]].