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	:The bag of holding negates mass for the items inside the bag, and the runner is hitting the back of the bag; laws of inertia are already being ignored before you even open the bag. If you're that upset about it, drop the shit on the wizard from a great height. Fifteen hundred pounds of horseshit is like 375 gallons or 1.7 kilolitres of volume, easily enough to bury someone.		:The bag of holding negates mass for the items inside the bag, and the runner is hitting the back of the bag; laws of inertia are already being ignored before you even open the bag. If you're that upset about it, drop the shit on the wizard from a great height. Fifteen hundred pounds of horseshit is like 375 gallons or 1.7 kilolitres of volume, easily enough to bury someone.

	The weight ratio is not the real problem with this use. First, there is the problem of the fragility of the bag itself. Per the rules for this item, if the bag is overloaded or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag ruptures and is ruined. Per the example above, the running man who is moving at a nice 15 meters per second, does 8d6 damage on impact. Even minimum damage, that is 8 points. Cloth has a hardness of 0 and 2 HP per inch of thickness. That baby is going to tear like tissue and all you'll be left with are some scraps. Second, even if you opened the bag at the listed speed, you would still not get projectile excrement at the same speed. Again, per the rules for this item, if a bag of holding is turned inside out, ~~it's~~ contents spill out, unharmed. As was stated earlier, this is magic and the laws of inertia are being ignored. It does not say that ~~it's~~ contents spill out at the same speed that it was opened, just that the contents spill out. What is in the bag is motionless and when ejected, is still motionless. It does not gain any inertia from the outside. So, even if you could find a way to protect the bag from destruction, all that would happen is that you would hit the bag and POOF run smack into 1500 pounds of bovine bio-waste. Take 8d6 of damage and onlookers will have to make a will save or collapse in laughter at the sight. This is not to say that hurling tons of manure is impossible by the rules, just not with the bag of holding (at least used like this.) You may want to direct your attention to the Shrink Item spell. (Can you say 20 square feet of FLAMING cow shit?)		The weight ratio is not the real problem with this use. First, there is the problem of the fragility of the bag itself. Per the rules for this item, if the bag is overloaded or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag ruptures and is ruined. Per the example above, the running man who is moving at a nice 15 meters per second, does 8d6 damage on impact. Even minimum damage, that is 8 points. Cloth has a hardness of 0 and 2 HP per inch of thickness. That baby is going to tear like tissue and all you'll be left with are some scraps. Second, even if you opened the bag at the listed speed, you would still not get projectile excrement at the same speed. Again, per the rules for this item, if a bag of holding is turned inside out, its contents spill out, unharmed. As was stated earlier, this is magic and the laws of inertia are being ignored. It does not say that its contents spill out at the same speed that it was opened, just that the contents spill out. What is in the bag is motionless and when ejected, is still motionless. It does not gain any inertia from the outside. So, even if you could find a way to protect the bag from destruction, all that would happen is that you would hit the bag and POOF run smack into 1500 pounds of bovine bio-waste. Take 8d6 of damage and onlookers will have to make a will save or collapse in laughter at the sight. This is not to say that hurling tons of manure is impossible by the rules, just not with the bag of holding (at least used like this.) You may want to direct your attention to the Shrink Item spell. (Can you say 20 square feet of FLAMING cow shit?)

	== Commoner, Herald of the End ==		== Commoner, Herald of the End ==

1d4chan>Zimriel at 17:13, 22 August 2021

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	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

	This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] came to feature a similar item, wherein the ex-~~henchman~~ Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.		This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] came to feature a similar item, wherein the ex-[[retainer]] Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.

	== Shitcannon of Holding ==		== Shitcannon of Holding ==

1d4chan>Zimriel at 01:05, 15 August 2021

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	The [[Necrons]] love this kinda stuff, what with their pocketdimensions and doors to infinity [[Meme\|(and beyond)]]. They even have a [[C'tan\|Pokéball for their lords and overlords]], if they happen to encounter some dude they just ''really'' want to have in the collection.		The [[Necrons]] love this kinda stuff, what with their pocketdimensions and doors to infinity [[Meme\|(and beyond)]]. They even have a [[C'tan\|Pokéball for their lords and overlords]], if they happen to encounter some dude they just ''really'' want to have in the collection.

			There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals. Another one is the '''Mirror of Life Trapping''' which can automatically nabble you, yourself, for that pocket dimension; ejecting whatever else is in there, probably something equally powerful and (now) grouchy. Feel free to ask your mom about the '''portable hole'''.

	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

	There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals. Another one is the '''Mirror of Life Trapping''' which can automatically nabble you, yourself, for that pocket dimension; ejecting whatever else is in there, probably something equally powerful and (now) grouchy.

	This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] came to feature a similar item, wherein the ex-henchman Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.		This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] came to feature a similar item, wherein the ex-henchman Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.

1d4chan>Zimriel at 00:59, 7 August 2021

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	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

	There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals. Another one is the Mirror of Life Trapping which can automatically nabble ~~your opponent~~ for that pocket dimension.		There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals. Another one is the '''Mirror of Life Trapping''' which can automatically nabble you, yourself, for that pocket dimension; ejecting whatever else is in there, probably something equally powerful and (now) grouchy.

	This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] ~~has~~ a similar item, wherein the ex-henchman Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.		This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] came to feature a similar item, wherein the ex-henchman Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.

	== Shitcannon of Holding ==		== Shitcannon of Holding ==

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	== Shitcannon of Holding ==		== Shitcannon of Holding ==
	Let's say you have a bag of holding, 1,500 pounds weight limit. In feudal lands you can easily acquire 1,500 pounds of cattle ~~shit~~ to fill the bag completely.		Let's say you have a bag of holding, 1,500 pounds weight limit. In feudal lands you can easily acquire 1,500 pounds of [[C.S. Goto\|cattle manure]] to fill the bag completely.

	Falling objects in D&D do 1d6 damage per 200lbs per 10 feet they fall. A falling object will accelerate to ~15 meters per second after 40 feet		Falling objects in D&D do 1d6 damage per 200lbs per 10 feet they fall. A falling object will accelerate to ~15 meters per second after 40 feet

1d4chan>Zimriel at 21:33, 6 August 2021

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	[[Image:Mary-poppins.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Mary Poppins is using a Carpet Bag of Holding ]]		[[Image:Mary-poppins.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Mary Poppins is using a Carpet Bag of Holding ]]
	A '''Bag of Holding''' is, as the name implies, a bag that holds things. However, due to its magical nature, it holds far more volume on the inside than it appears on the outside and will weigh only a fraction of its ~~content~~'s mass. It's explicitly named "Bag of Holding" for Dungeons & Dragons, but you'll find something similar in any RPG that has magic, or comparable system. It's just too damn useful not to have. The Bag of Holding is a must-have item for dungeon delvers and murderhobos, so they can stop worrying about encumbrance rules (gold coins in D&D used to be 1/10th of a pound) and deny they have a hoarding problem just a little longer. It may have been made worse by early adventure video games, where you had to collect everything because you didn't know what might be a piece of a puzzle later.		A '''Bag of Holding''' is, as the name implies, a bag that holds things. However, due to its magical nature, it holds far more volume on the inside than it appears on the outside and will weigh only a fraction of its contents' mass. With it dungeon delvers and [[murderhobo]]es can stop worrying about encumbrance rules (gold coins in D&D used to be 1/10th of a pound) and deny they have a hoarding problem just a little longer.

			It's explicitly named "Bag of Holding" for [[Dungeons & Dragons]], but you'll find something similar in any RPG that has magic, or comparable system. It's just too damn useful not to have. It may have been made worse by early adventure video games, where you had to collect everything because you didn't know what might be a piece of a puzzle later.

	Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.		Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.
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	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

	There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals.		There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals. Another one is the Mirror of Life Trapping which can automatically nabble your opponent for that pocket dimension.

			This trope got expanded hard in [[X12: Skarda's Mirror]], where the eponymous artifact-tier Mirror holds an ''entire army''. [[Knights of the Dinner Table]] has a similar item, wherein the ex-henchman Barringer has set up shop and now extorts the Knights if they want to store anything more in there.

	== Shitcannon of Holding ==		== Shitcannon of Holding ==

1d4chan>Nubnuber at 00:15, 10 February 2021

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	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

	~~== Variants ==~~

	There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals.		There exists various other iterations of a bag of holding; one of the more common is the '''bag of tricks''', which is much more akin to a "magic hat", in that it can be used to summon varying types of animals.

1d4chan>Apocolypse101 at 07:00, 25 October 2019

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	Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.		Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.

	The [[Necrons]] love this kinda stuff, what with their pocketdimensions and doors to infinity [[Meme\|(and beyond)]]. They even have a [[C'tan\|Pokéball for their lords and overlords]], if ~~the~~ happen to encounter some dude they just ''really'' want to have in the collection.		The [[Necrons]] love this kinda stuff, what with their pocketdimensions and doors to infinity [[Meme\|(and beyond)]]. They even have a [[C'tan\|Pokéball for their lords and overlords]], if they happen to encounter some dude they just ''really'' want to have in the collection.

	Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.		Under no circumstances should you try to put a bag of holding into a portable hole, another bag of holding, or a Sphere of Annihilation. If you do, horrible things will happen that tend to annihilate everything within several miles.

1d4chan>AVeryPaleValhallan at 16:16, 15 July 2019

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	[[Image:Mary-poppins.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Mary Poppins is using a Carpet Bag of Holding ]]		[[Image:Mary-poppins.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Mary Poppins is using a Carpet Bag of Holding ]]
	A '''Bag of Holding''' holds far more volume on the inside than it appears on the outside and will weigh only a fraction of its content's mass. It's explicitly named "Bag of Holding" for Dungeons & Dragons, but you'll find something similar in any RPG that has magic, or comparable system. It's just too damn useful not to have. The Bag of Holding is a must-have item for dungeon delvers and murderhobos, so they can stop worrying about encumbrance rules (gold coins in D&D used to be 1/10th of a pound) and deny they have a hoarding problem just a little longer. It may have been made worse by early adventure video games, where you had to collect everything because you didn't know what might be a piece of a puzzle later.		A '''Bag of Holding''' is, as the name implies, a bag that holds things. However, due to its magical nature, it holds far more volume on the inside than it appears on the outside and will weigh only a fraction of its content's mass. It's explicitly named "Bag of Holding" for Dungeons & Dragons, but you'll find something similar in any RPG that has magic, or comparable system. It's just too damn useful not to have. The Bag of Holding is a must-have item for dungeon delvers and murderhobos, so they can stop worrying about encumbrance rules (gold coins in D&D used to be 1/10th of a pound) and deny they have a hoarding problem just a little longer. It may have been made worse by early adventure video games, where you had to collect everything because you didn't know what might be a piece of a puzzle later.

	Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.		Since it is such a common item for adventurers, and breaks physics in a very simple way, it is a lovely tool for gamebreaking.