http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Balrog 2026-05-13T11:12:37Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.0 http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78507&oldid=prev 2023-06-17T21:52:58Z

<p>17 revisions imported</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:52, 17 June 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table>

imported>Administrator http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78506&oldid=prev 2022-06-24T06:50:34Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:50, 24 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Balrogs were actually present in [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]], specifically in &#039;&#039;&#039;Warhammer Battle Bestiary&#039;&#039;&#039;, where they&#039;re described as Greater Daemons associated with fire. It&#039;s not clear which God they represent, though it probably would be [[Khorne]] or [[Hashut]]. They were quickly discontinued for the same reasons described earlier.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Balrogs were actually present in [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]], specifically in &#039;&#039;&#039;Warhammer Battle Bestiary&#039;&#039;&#039;, where they&#039;re described as Greater Daemons associated with fire. It&#039;s not clear which God they represent, though it probably would be [[Khorne]] or [[Hashut]]. They were quickly discontinued for the same reasons described earlier.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, though [[Bloodthirsters]] can be seen as a spiritual successor.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

2001:8003:1C20:8C00:A93C:6F03:2E58:E841 http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78505&oldid=prev 2022-01-11T06:34:19Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:34, 11 January 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild &#039;&#039;[[Blackmoor]]&#039;&#039;. TSR&#039;s lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame, and considering this is the Tolkien estate we&#039;re talking about, it wouldn&#039;t be hyperbole. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a &quot;type VI&quot;, with [[Tanar&#039;ri #True Tanar&#039;ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild &#039;&#039;[[Blackmoor]]&#039;&#039;. TSR&#039;s lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame, and considering this is the Tolkien estate we&#039;re talking about, it wouldn&#039;t be hyperbole. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a &quot;type VI&quot;, with [[Tanar&#039;ri #True Tanar&#039;ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Balrogs were actually present in [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]], specifically in '''Warhammer Battle Bestiary''', where they're described as Greater Daemons associated with fire. It's not clear which God they represent, though it probably would be [[Khorne]] or [[Hashut]]. They were quickly discontinued for the same reasons described earlier.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td></tr> </table>

1d4chan>Neckrage http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78504&oldid=prev 2021-01-02T17:44:35Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:44, 2 January 2021</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&#039;&#039;&#039;Balrogs&#039;&#039;&#039; are good old [[JRR Tolkien|Tollers Tolkien]]&#039;s own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were [[Ainur|Maiar]] like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&#039;&#039;&#039;Balrogs&#039;&#039;&#039; are good old [[JRR Tolkien|Tollers Tolkien]]&#039;s own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were [[Ainur|Maiar]] like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren't so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers' descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not. There used to be armies of them, with some riding goddamn dragons, but most had been defeated by the end of the First Age in the cataclysmic War of Wrath.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren't so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers' descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[skub|</ins>quite some energy<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>arguing whether they actually have wings or not. There used to be armies of them, with some riding goddamn dragons, but most had been defeated by the end of the First Age in the cataclysmic War of Wrath.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Lord_of_the_Rings|</ins>Fellowship of the Ring<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild &#039;&#039;[[Blackmoor]]&#039;&#039;. TSR&#039;s lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame, and considering this is the Tolkien estate we&#039;re talking about, it wouldn&#039;t be hyperbole. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a &quot;type VI&quot;, with [[Tanar&#039;ri #True Tanar&#039;ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild &#039;&#039;[[Blackmoor]]&#039;&#039;. TSR&#039;s lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame, and considering this is the Tolkien estate we&#039;re talking about, it wouldn&#039;t be hyperbole. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a &quot;type VI&quot;, with [[Tanar&#039;ri #True Tanar&#039;ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td></tr> </table>

1d4chan>Zimriel http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78503&oldid=prev 2021-01-02T17:43:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:43, 2 January 2021</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old Tollers Tolkien's own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were [[Ainur|Maiar]] like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[JRR Tolkien|</ins>Tollers Tolkien<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>'s own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were [[Ainur|Maiar]] like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren&#039;t so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers&#039; descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not. There used to be armies of them, with some riding goddamn dragons, but most had been defeated by the end of the First Age in the cataclysmic War of Wrath.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren&#039;t so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers&#039; descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not. There used to be armies of them, with some riding goddamn dragons, but most had been defeated by the end of the First Age in the cataclysmic War of Wrath.</div></td></tr> </table>

1d4chan>Zimriel http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78502&oldid=prev 2021-01-02T08:39:53Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:39, 2 January 2021</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[Tanar'ri #True Tanar'ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and considering this is the Tolkien estate we're talking about, it wouldn't be hyperbole</ins>. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[Tanar'ri #True Tanar'ri|Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td></tr> </table>

2603:8001:3500:CB:D817:2CFB:ADBF:9212 http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78501&oldid=prev 2020-07-07T03:43:55Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:43, 7 July 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old Tollers Tolkien's own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were Maiar like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old Tollers Tolkien's own brand of [[demons]], the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Ainur|</ins>Maiar<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren't so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers' descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren't so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers' descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. There used to be armies of them, with some riding goddamn dragons, but most had been defeated by the end of the First Age in the cataclysmic War of Wrath</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td></tr> </table>

174.48.165.232 http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78500&oldid=prev 2020-06-02T21:41:45Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:41, 2 June 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old Tollers Tolkien's own brand of demons, the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were Maiar like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Balrogs''' are good old Tollers Tolkien's own brand of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>demons<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, the Valaraukar, after some linguistic drift. They were Maiar like Sauron, angels who sided with Melkor when he went Morgoth (Elvish for BBEG).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren&#039;t so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers&#039; descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Like their bro Sauron the balrogs aren&#039;t so pretty anymore. Typically they manifest as shadow and fire, with whips of flame. Tollers&#039; descriptions of the critters are vague, to the point fans have spent quite some energy arguing whether they actually have wings or not.</div></td></tr> </table>

1d4chan>Zimriel http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78499&oldid=prev 2020-06-02T21:06:05Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:06, 2 June 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[Tanar'ri #Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[Tanar'ri #<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">True Tanar'ri|</ins>Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td></tr> </table>

73.41.249.220 http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Balrog&diff=78498&oldid=prev 2020-06-02T21:04:42Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:04, 2 June 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As one of the mightiest foes the Fellowship of the Ring faces, and certainly of awesome appearance, the fiery and shadowy demon is copied by many of the later fantasy universes that were inspired by LOTR. Of course, how much originality one can attribute to the concept of a fire+demon creature, in a Christianity influenced Europe, is a question for another debate.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Dungeons &amp; Dragons]] had balrogs in its first edition, and they still appear as such in the Judges Guild ''[[Blackmoor]]''. TSR's lawyers advised them that they were set to get buttraped in court with a big barbed cock made of shadow and flame. So Gary filed off the serials by classifying that as a "type VI", with [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tanar'ri #</ins>Balor]] as a suggested name. And this lot have wings and can fly. It all fooled absolutely nobody, but it was enough to get past the lawyers.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:The Lord of the Rings]]</div></td></tr> </table>

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