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	==Warhammer==		==Warhammer==
	Warhammer Fantasy has the [[Warriors of Chaos]]. 40K has a bunch of them: [[World Eaters]], [[Space Wolves]], [[White Scars]], [[Space Sharks]]...		Warhammer Fantasy has the [[Warriors of Chaos]]. 40K has a bunch of them: [[World Eaters]], [[Space Wolves]], [[White Scars]], [[Space Sharks]], and during the Unification of Terra, various nations existed of Techno-Barbarians.

	==...and more===		==...and more===

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	That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")		That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")

	The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of your abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued, which both lets you rage-cycle, ~~save~~ your rounds of rage when you can't smash stuff in combat, and protects you from getting powered down by enforced fatigue. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.		The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of your abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued, which both lets you rage-cycle, saves your rounds of rage when you can't smash stuff in combat, and protects you from getting powered down by enforced fatigue. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.

	It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.		It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.

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	That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")		That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")

	The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of your abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.		The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of your abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued, which both lets you rage-cycle, save your rounds of rage when you can't smash stuff in combat, and protects you from getting powered down by enforced fatigue. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.

	It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.		It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.

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	It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.		It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.

	'''Pathfinder Unchained''' offered a revision to the barbarian, introducing a rage that wasn't so dependent on stats (so now you get +2 to melee attack/melee damage/thrown damage/Will and +2 THP/HD to prevent death once rage runs out and your HP drops with your Constitution) and a few reworded rage powers. Most of the "once per rage" powers and some of the others were reworked into the new "stance" powers that are active until the end of the rage, but require a move action to start working. The problem is - those do not stack with each other, and the most fun and badass high-level rage power, Come and Get Me (which gives your enemy a huge bonus to hit and damage, but lets you make your own attacks before your enemy), got turned into a stance too instead of an at-will rage power. Some of the other rage powers were reworked or outright removed, which even broke some of those still available (for example, some unchained rage powers require you to take those that are not available for the unchained barbarian). It was largely considered a sidegrade at best and a mild downgrade at worst since it lost out on all archetypes RAW and killed the rage cycling (which was intended, to be fair). But it at least made it harder for you to instantly drop dead the second your rage ends at higher levels, and made the class more fun to play if you don't want to ~~get involved into~~ rage-cycling shenanigans.		'''Pathfinder Unchained''' offered a revision to the barbarian, introducing a rage that wasn't so dependent on stats (so now you get +2 to melee attack/melee damage/thrown damage/Will and +2 THP/HD to prevent death once rage runs out and your HP drops with your Constitution) and a few reworded rage powers. Most of the "once per rage" powers and some of the others were reworked into the new "stance" powers that are active until the end of the rage, but require a move action to start working. The problem is - those do not stack with each other, and the most fun and badass high-level rage power, Come and Get Me (which gives your enemy a huge bonus to hit and damage, but lets you make your own attacks before your enemy), got turned into a stance too instead of an at-will rage power. Some of the other rage powers were reworked or outright removed, which even broke some of those still available (for example, some unchained rage powers require you to take those that are not available for the unchained barbarian). It was largely considered a sidegrade at best and a mild downgrade at worst since it lost out on all archetypes RAW and killed the rage cycling (which was intended, to be fair). But it at least made it harder for you to instantly drop dead the second your rage ends at higher levels, and made the class more fun to play if you don't want to bother with rage-cycling shenanigans.

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1st Edition

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	That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")		That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")

	The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of ~~yourr~~ abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.		The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of your abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.

	It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.		It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.
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	===2nd Edition===		===2nd Edition===
	Raging, being the core feature of the class, pretty much behaves the same as Unleashed, granting THP and extra damage, but taking -1 to AC and losing access to certain actions that require concentration. Notably, Rage is no longer restricted to any number of times a day, but you instead just rage for a full minute before falling out of it and then being unable rage again for another minute. Of course, a majority of the class feats focus on adding new abilities when raging, almost all of them being focused on combat.		Raging, being the core feature of the class, pretty much behaves the same as Unleashed, granting THP and extra damage, but taking -1 to AC and losing access to certain actions that require concentration. Notably, Rage is no longer restricted to any number of times a day, but you instead just rage for a full minute before falling out of it and then being unable rage again for another minute. Of course, a majority of the class feats focus on adding new abilities when raging, almost all of them being focused on combat.

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	That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")		That's right, every two levels your barbarian bro learns a new way that getting ''really fucking angry'' can give him superpowers. These powers range from the useful (making combat maneuvers in place of regular attacks) to the impractically awesome (beating an opponent with another opponent) to the outright supernatural (sprouting claws and horns before gaining a pounce attack) to the ''hilarious'' (gaining big bonuses on swim checks)... That last one makes sense ''mechanically'' (rage buff strength, after all, and strength is the stat used in swim tests), but the mental image is never not funny. ("''FUCK YOU WATER! WRAAAAAAAAGH!''")

			The most powerful of those abilities can be used once per rage only, which usually means you can either use them once per combat, or have to cancel out your rage and fight without almost all of yourr abilities while also being fatigued. But, if you manage to somehow get immune to fatigue, you can "rage-cycle" every turn and use those powerful abilities once per round. In practice, it means going berserk, calming down for a few moments after a couple of seconds, and then turning nuts again, which looks ridiculous, stupid and outright cheesy. This usually involves some multiclassing, but then Paizo released this belt called Cord of Stubborn Resolve, which makes you take a tiny bit of non-lethal damage instead of getting fatigued. It's still pretty cheesy, but also not even close to some stuff casters are able to do.

	It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.		It's not necessarily top-tier, though it may be the best among its fellow beatstick classes, and it's certainly fun as hell and much more customizable than before. It's still tier 4, but the skill compression and rage powers make them more versatile. Lost a lot of its draw in 2014 when the [[Bloodrager]] class was released. Why play a guy who fights by getting angry when you can play a guy who fights by getting angry, grows claws, wings, and fangs when he gets angry, and can cast spells like a weak sorcerer? Shoot, with the "this really shouldn't exist" Primalist archetype, you can even get enough rage powers to make it practically obsolete (though practically everyone knows this to be utterly fucking cheese and thus refrain from using it). The only draws left are basically the few archetypes that can do things it can't, like the Invulnerable Rager for Damage Reduction shenanigans. Also the Bloodrager's rage is classed as a supernatural(Su) ability and so is affected by anti-magic. Whether it some how stops him being angry all together or just cancels the magical effects is down the GM. The PF Barbarian is also the foundation for [[Wrassle Baba]], the D&D equivalent of Brock Lesnar.

	'''Pathfinder Unchained''' offered a revision to the barbarian, introducing a rage that wasn't so dependent on stats (so now you get +2 to melee attack/melee damage/thrown damage/Will and +2 THP/HD to prevent death once rage runs out and your HP drops with your Constitution) and a few reworded rage powers. It was largely considered a sidegrade at best and a mild downgrade at worst since it lost out on all archetypes RAW. But it at least made it harder for you to instantly drop dead the second your rage ends at higher levels.		'''Pathfinder Unchained''' offered a revision to the barbarian, introducing a rage that wasn't so dependent on stats (so now you get +2 to melee attack/melee damage/thrown damage/Will and +2 THP/HD to prevent death once rage runs out and your HP drops with your Constitution) and a few reworded rage powers. Most of the "once per rage" powers and some of the others were reworked into the new "stance" powers that are active until the end of the rage, but require a move action to start working. The problem is - those do not stack with each other, and the most fun and badass high-level rage power, Come and Get Me (which gives your enemy a huge bonus to hit and damage, but lets you make your own attacks before your enemy), got turned into a stance too instead of an at-will rage power. Some of the other rage powers were reworked or outright removed, which even broke some of those still available (for example, some unchained rage powers require you to take those that are not available for the unchained barbarian). It was largely considered a sidegrade at best and a mild downgrade at worst since it lost out on all archetypes RAW and killed the rage cycling (which was intended, to be fair). But it at least made it harder for you to instantly drop dead the second your rage ends at higher levels, and made the class more fun to play if you don't want to get involved into rage-cycling shenanigans.

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	The very first Barbarian appeared in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition, in the [[Unearthed Arcana]] splatbook. Here, it was a variant [[Fighter]] who had a background in a primitive culture; as a result, they have certain abilities (some shared with the [[Ranger]], such as wilderness survival, others unique), but also very strict penalties against using magical items or associating with [[wizard]]s. This mark 1 barbarian has a D12 hit dice and better saves than the [[fighter]]; it can also Climb Walls as per a thief of the same level, as an increased ability to surprise foes (3 in 6, or 4 in 6 in familiar territory) or resist being surprised (90% resistance, 95% in familiar territory), has a 5% per level chance of nullifying a Backstab, has increased jumping abilities, has a 5% chance per level of Detecting Illusion (maxes at 75%), a 25% (+5% per level) chance of Detecting Magic (maxes at 90%), and access to the [[Ranger]] abilities of Survival, First Aid, Outdoor Craft, and Tracking. Plus potentially access to regional skills such as animal handling, horsemanship, running, handling small boats and imitating animal calls. Also, depending on their level, they can strike creatures normally vulnerable only to enchanted weapons of a specific potency; starting at "can hit +1" from level 4 and increasing by +1 every two levels thereafter, a level 6 barbarian for example can hurt creatures normally resistant to anything less than a +2 weapon, whilst level 12 barbarians can hurt anything that normally needs a +5 weapon.		The very first Barbarian appeared in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition, in the [[Unearthed Arcana]] splatbook. Here, it was a variant [[Fighter]] who had a background in a primitive culture; as a result, they have certain abilities (some shared with the [[Ranger]], such as wilderness survival, others unique), but also very strict penalties against using magical items or associating with [[wizard]]s. This mark 1 barbarian has a D12 hit dice and better saves than the [[fighter]]; it can also Climb Walls as per a thief of the same level, as an increased ability to surprise foes (3 in 6, or 4 in 6 in familiar territory) or resist being surprised (90% resistance, 95% in familiar territory), has a 5% per level chance of nullifying a Backstab, has increased jumping abilities, has a 5% chance per level of Detecting Illusion (maxes at 75%), a 25% (+5% per level) chance of Detecting Magic (maxes at 90%), and access to the [[Ranger]] abilities of Survival, First Aid, Outdoor Craft, and Tracking. Plus potentially access to regional skills such as animal handling, horsemanship, running, handling small boats and imitating animal calls. Also, depending on their level, they can strike creatures normally vulnerable only to enchanted weapons of a specific potency; starting at "can hit +1" from level 4 and increasing by +1 every two levels thereafter, a level 6 barbarian for example can hurt creatures normally resistant to anything less than a +2 weapon, whilst level 12 barbarians can hurt anything that normally needs a +5 weapon. Eventually, rather than a fighter's keep and followers, you started attracting a horde.

	The downside? They cannot use ANY magical items at 1st level, and in fact are actually compelled to destroy them if possible. As they reach certain levels, they gain access to magical items (starting with potions at level 2 and culminating at "most magic items available to fighters" at level 10), and no longer need to destroy those items, but, ''shockingly'', most parties didn't seem to want to keep them around in the time it took to reach those thresholds. Gee, I wonder why someone literally ''compelled'' to smash loot in an edition built around looting might be unpopular?		The downside? They cannot use ANY magical items at 1st level, and in fact are actually compelled to destroy them if possible. As they reach certain levels, they gain access to magical items (starting with potions at level 2 and culminating at "most magic items available to fighters" at level 10), and no longer need to destroy those items, but, ''shockingly'', most parties didn't seem to want to keep them around in the time it took to reach those thresholds. Gee, I wonder why someone literally ''compelled'' to smash loot in an edition built around looting might be unpopular? At least they got bonus XP for it.

	The next version of the Barbarian was as one of the [[kits]] seen in the [[Complete Book Series\|Complete Fighter's Handbook]]. This is a kit restricted to [[fighter]]s with [[Strength]] 15+, and all it does is add a +3 bonus (or -3 penalty) to reaction rolls. It was, frankly, rather stupid and nobody ever bothered with it.		The next version of the Barbarian was as one of the [[kits]] seen in the [[Complete Book Series\|Complete Fighter's Handbook]]. This is a kit restricted to [[fighter]]s with [[Strength]] 15+, and all it does is add a +3 bonus (or -3 penalty) to reaction rolls. It was, frankly, rather stupid and nobody ever bothered with it.