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	As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.		As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.

	...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily ~~loosing~~ ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons'', so maybe there's some hope for him now. He makes a major appearance in ''Descent into Avernus'', which also added to the retcon that Zariel is the janey-come-lately newly-fallen angel who got put in charge of his operation rather than the original Demon Prince he usurped, and serves as a useful patron for the PCs in a plot to regain his home. True to form, he doesn't even screw them on the deal. Oh, he leaves out lots of crucial and useful information to manipulate them into doing what he wants, but since their goals (probably) align with his, he sees no reason why they ''shouldn't'' get Zariel to give up this devil phase, go back to being an angel, and save the city falling into the lair. After all, it puts him in a position to reclaim what's his, and if the demons happen to overrun the layer in the meanwhile, well, what a shame, but it just goes to demonstrate how important he really is... and if they fail, well, they're likely to shatter her plans anyway, undermining her within Baator's hierarchy.		...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily losing ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons'', so maybe there's some hope for him now. He makes a major appearance in ''Descent into Avernus'', which also added to the retcon that Zariel is the janey-come-lately newly-fallen angel who got put in charge of his operation rather than the original Demon Prince he usurped, and serves as a useful patron for the PCs in a plot to regain his home. True to form, he doesn't even screw them on the deal. Oh, he leaves out lots of crucial and useful information to manipulate them into doing what he wants, but since their goals (probably) align with his, he sees no reason why they ''shouldn't'' get Zariel to give up this devil phase, go back to being an angel, and save the city falling into the lair. After all, it puts him in a position to reclaim what's his, and if the demons happen to overrun the layer in the meanwhile, well, what a shame, but it just goes to demonstrate how important he really is... and if they fail, well, they're likely to shatter her plans anyway, undermining her within Baator's hierarchy.

	Then again, ''that'' could potentially backfire on him if one of the PCs decides ''they'' want to be in charge, and Asmodeus decides he likes their moxie and promotes them to archdevil on the spot. And Tiamat could potentially make a power play of her own. But, at the end of the day, Bel, like the cool-headed pragmatist he is, understands he can't control the situation in its entirety and makes the move that gives him the greatest chance of success towards the highest reward with the least risk.		Then again, ''that'' could potentially backfire on him if one of the PCs decides ''they'' want to be in charge, and Asmodeus decides he likes their moxie and promotes them to archdevil on the spot. And Tiamat could potentially make a power play of her own. But, at the end of the day, Bel, like the cool-headed pragmatist he is, understands he can't control the situation in its entirety and makes the move that gives him the greatest chance of success towards the highest reward with the least risk.

	Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?		Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

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	The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), '''Bel''' is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda.		The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), '''Bel''' is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda.

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	Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?		Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?

			==Gallery==
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			Bel 2e.png
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			Bel 5e.jpg
			</gallery>

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	[[File:Bel.jpg\|x300px\|thumb\|right]]		[[File:Bel.jpg\|x300px\|thumb\|right]]
	The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), Bel is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda. Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only to betray his demon allies and have them all killed by his forces. He returned to Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil of Zariel, a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history of working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M.		The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), '''Bel''' is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda.

			==History==
			Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only to betray his demon allies and have them all killed by his forces. He returned to Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil of [[Zariel]], a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history of working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M.

	He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart and none of them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--in other words, he is in charge of the necessary, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back.		He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart and none of them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--in other words, he is in charge of the necessary, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back.

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	'''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).

	~~They operated out~~ of the ~~SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it~~ was ~~terminated~~ in ~~2014~~, after ~~which they appear~~ to have ~~transitioned briefly~~ to ~~GiivaSunner in September~~ of ~~2016 before returning~~ to ~~SilvaGunner in June~~ of ~~2018~~.		[[File:Bel.jpg\|x300px\|thumb\|right]]
			The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), Bel is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda. Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only to betray his demon allies and have them all killed by his forces. He returned to Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil of Zariel, a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history of working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M.

	~~== CHANNELS ==~~		He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart and none of them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--in other words, he is in charge of the necessary, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back.
	The ~~original forums appeared~~ to ~~function~~ as ~~four services: preparation~~ and ~~communication~~ in ~~service~~ of ~~coming events~~, ~~discussion about new HIGH~~-~~QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase~~, and ~~general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion~~.

	~~{{awesome}}== EVENTS ==~~		As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.
	~~The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for~~ being ~~diverse~~ and ~~involved~~, ~~due~~ in ~~large part~~ to their ~~incredibly strong YTP scene~~. ~~These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly~~ a ~~decade~~, and ~~some that~~ still ~~don't! They also hosted some~~ of the ~~first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments~~, ~~with fan HIGH~~-~~QUALITY RIPS~~.

	~~In later years~~, ~~an event known~~ as ~~GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES~~ for ~~GRAND DAD Fantasy~~, ~~KING FOR ANOTHER DAY~~, ~~GRANDmachine~~, ~~HE THICC 69~~, and ~~MEME Wars~~, ~~as of 2019~~.		...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily loosing ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons'', so maybe there's some hope for him now. He makes a major appearance in ''Descent into Avernus'', which also added to the retcon that Zariel is the janey-come-lately newly-fallen angel who got put in charge of his operation rather than the original Demon Prince he usurped, and serves as a useful patron for the PCs in a plot to regain his home. True to form, he doesn't even screw them on the deal. Oh, he leaves out lots of crucial and useful information to manipulate them into doing what he wants, but since their goals (probably) align with his, he sees no reason why they ''shouldn't'' get Zariel to give up this devil phase, go back to being an angel, and save the city falling into the lair. After all, it puts him in a position to reclaim what's his, and if the demons happen to overrun the layer in the meanwhile, well, what a shame, but it just goes to demonstrate how important he really is... and if they fail, well, they're likely to shatter her plans anyway, undermining her within Baator's hierarchy.

	~~== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES ==~~		Then again, ''that'' could potentially backfire on him if one of the PCs decides ''they'' want to be in charge, and Asmodeus decides he likes their moxie and promotes them to archdevil on the spot. And Tiamat could potentially make a power play of her own. But, at the end of the day, Bel, like the cool-headed pragmatist he is, understands he can't control the situation in its entirety and makes the move that gives him the greatest chance of success towards the highest reward with the least risk.
	~~Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear~~ to ~~have seen releases or updates~~ in ~~5th~~ and ~~6th edition~~. ~~Note~~ that ~~The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019~~.

	* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO		Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?
	* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, ~~TITO DICKMAN~~, ~~SPONGE~~, ~~HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)~~
	* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
	* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN

	~~GRAND DAD IS LOVE~~		{{D&D-Archdevils}}
	~~GRAND DAD IS LIFE~~
	~~GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI~~
	~~FOR MEMES~~
	~~FOR VINESAUCE~~
	~~AND FOR~~
	~~SILVAGUNNER~~
	~~[[Category: Meme]][[Category: GRAND DAD]][[Category: GRAND DAD Fantasy]][[Category: Awesome]]~~

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			'''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).

	~~[[File:Bel.jpg\|x300px\|thumb\|right]]~~		They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.
	~~The [[Archdevil\| Lord~~ of the ~~First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role~~ was ~~held by [[Tiamat]]), Bel is the Hells' premier success story, though~~ in ~~truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no~~, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda. Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after ~~success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only~~ to ~~betray his demon allies and~~ have ~~them all killed by his forces. He returned~~ to ~~Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil~~ of Zariel, a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to ~~capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history~~ of ~~working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M~~.

	He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to ~~those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties~~ as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: ~~they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart~~ and ~~none~~ of ~~them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself~~, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--~~in other words~~, ~~he is in charge of the necessary~~, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and ~~fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back~~.		== CHANNELS ==
			The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.

	As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and ~~without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally~~, ~~unmatched~~ in ~~the Nine Hells. But if they try~~ to ~~deceive him or fail in~~ their ~~promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one~~ would ~~expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is~~ a ~~devil through and through~~, and is still ~~one~~ of the ~~nine most powerful devils in all Hell~~, ~~regardless of his dead~~-~~end job~~.		{{awesome}}== EVENTS ==
			The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.

	~~...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily loosing ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons''~~, so maybe there's some hope for him now. He makes a major appearance in ''Descent into Avernus'', which also added to the retcon that Zariel is the janey-come-lately newly-fallen angel who got put in charge of his operation rather than the original Demon Prince he usurped, and serves as ~~a useful patron~~ for ~~the PCs in a plot to regain his home. True to form, he doesn't even screw them on the deal. Oh~~, ~~he leaves out lots of crucial and useful information to manipulate them into doing what he wants~~, ~~but since their goals (probably) align with his~~, ~~he sees no reason why they ''shouldn't'' get Zariel to give up this devil phase, go back to being an angel~~, and ~~save the city falling into the lair. After all~~, it puts him in a position to reclaim what's his, and if the demons happen to overrun the layer in the meanwhile, well, what a shame, but it just goes to demonstrate how important he really is... and if they fail, well, they're likely to shatter her plans anyway, undermining her within Baator's hierarchy.		In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.

	~~Then again, ''that'' could potentially backfire on him if one of the PCs decides ''they'' want~~ to be in ~~charge,~~ and ~~Asmodeus decides he likes their moxie and promotes them to archdevil on the spot~~. ~~And Tiamat could potentially make a power play of her own. But, at the end of the day, Bel, like the cool-headed pragmatist he is, understands he can't control the situation in its entirety~~ and ~~makes the move that gives him the greatest chance of success towards the highest reward with the least risk~~.		== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES ==
			Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.

	~~Also~~, ~~if the party are dicks to him~~, ~~he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he~~, ~~a barbarian?~~		* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
			* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)
			* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
			* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN

	~~{{D&D-Archdevils}}~~		GRAND DAD IS LOVE
			GRAND DAD IS LIFE
			GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI
			FOR MEMES
			FOR VINESAUCE
			AND FOR
			SILVAGUNNER
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	As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.		As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.

	...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily loosing ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons'', so maybe there's some hope for him now.		...But in 5e he and Zariel swapped positions again due to him temporarily loosing ''his entire FUCKING LAYER to demons'', so maybe there's some hope for him now. He makes a major appearance in ''Descent into Avernus'', which also added to the retcon that Zariel is the janey-come-lately newly-fallen angel who got put in charge of his operation rather than the original Demon Prince he usurped, and serves as a useful patron for the PCs in a plot to regain his home. True to form, he doesn't even screw them on the deal. Oh, he leaves out lots of crucial and useful information to manipulate them into doing what he wants, but since their goals (probably) align with his, he sees no reason why they ''shouldn't'' get Zariel to give up this devil phase, go back to being an angel, and save the city falling into the lair. After all, it puts him in a position to reclaim what's his, and if the demons happen to overrun the layer in the meanwhile, well, what a shame, but it just goes to demonstrate how important he really is... and if they fail, well, they're likely to shatter her plans anyway, undermining her within Baator's hierarchy.

			Then again, ''that'' could potentially backfire on him if one of the PCs decides ''they'' want to be in charge, and Asmodeus decides he likes their moxie and promotes them to archdevil on the spot. And Tiamat could potentially make a power play of her own. But, at the end of the day, Bel, like the cool-headed pragmatist he is, understands he can't control the situation in its entirety and makes the move that gives him the greatest chance of success towards the highest reward with the least risk.

			Also, if the party are dicks to him, he still doesn't actually attack them because what is he, a barbarian?

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	The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), Bel is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda. Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only to betray his demon allies and have them all killed by his forces. He returned to Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil of Zariel, a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history of working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M.		The [[Archdevil\| Lord of the First]] in several editions of the game (in some prior editions this role was held by [[Tiamat]]), Bel is the Hells' premier success story, though in truth he's effectively gotten himself promoted into a corner (no, not a corner office). He frequently uses treachery, double-crossing and ambushes to further his agenda. Bel started out as a powerful Pit Fiend general in service to the Dark Eight, the devil generals in charge of the Blood War. His campaigns against the demons resulted in success after success until he seemingly changed sides and joined the Tanar'ri. When he gained their trust he led them into a battle against the devils, only to betray his demon allies and have them all killed by his forces. He returned to Baator as a hero and became the right-hand devil of Zariel, a fallen angel and then-archduke of Avernus. He served her many centuries and eventually became her lover. This became her undoing as Bel turned her court against the fallen angel and overthrew her. He somehow managed to capture her and slowly strip her of her powers while he declared himself the new Lord of Avernus. Of course, given the fact that they are both devils and he has a long history of working as a deep-cover agent, it ''could'' just be an elaborate sex thing. Devils are big on S&M.

	He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart and none of them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--in other words, he is in charge of the necessary, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke ~~of hell~~ who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back.		He prepared himself from an invasion from the other Archdukes in an attempt to overthrow him and claim Avernus for themselves, but instead he was visited by Martinet, the constable of Asmodeus. He informed Bel that Asmodeus congratulated him on his guile and skill, and was willing to accept him as the new Lord of the First, on the condition that Bel retained his position as a general to the Dark Eight. Somewhat relieved at these terms, Bel accepted. But as is common to those who make deals with devils, he discovered something a little too late: his new duties as the main overseer of the hellish "homefront" of the Blood War meant that he had less time to spend politicking with the rest of the Lords, effectively cutting himself off from further advancement in their hierarchy. The other Archdukes of Hell did not really mind this: they all saw the Pit Fiend as a double-crossing upstart and none of them were willing to accept him as an ally. The only one who sees Bel as more than a nuisance is Asmodeus himself, but even then the Overlord of Hell doesn't really think very highly of him. Funny how for all his previous scheming and undeniable martial prowess (tested daily by the claws, fangs, blades, and spells wielded by the endless hordes of Demonic invaders), Bel was left with [[Not as planned\|the unenviable position of being the Nine Hells' biggest guard dog]]--in other words, he is in charge of the necessary, even vital, task of keeping the invading Demons out of the lower layers of the Nine Hells, but by earning this "reward" he has exhausted any intraplanar avenues for advancement in Hellish politics. Being effectively outside of the political struggle is a double edged sword - while he cannot hope to advance under current circumstances, he is also the only Archduke who doesn't have to worry about his position so he can spend all day taking names and fucking bitches without having to worry about another Archduke's dagger in his back.

	As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.		As a realist who is somewhat resigned to his lot and who knows he needs all the help he can get just to keep the demons at bay, day after day (what with the Archdukes of the other layers and even the Lawful Evil deities residing on his layer, such as Tiamat and Kurtulmak, being less-than-enthusiastic about aiding him) he is the sole Archduke of Hell who is the most willing to give anyone who can offer credible assistance to his cause a fair hearing. If [[adventurer]]s approach him with offers regarding taking the fight to the Tanar'ri he is more than willing to listen. Mortals who treat him with respect and without duplicity will find a surprisingly reliable ally, unmatched in the Nine Hells. But if they try to deceive him or fail in their promises, he will display all the rage and cruelty one would expect from an Archduke. He may never be short of demonic punching bags to take out his devilish anger and frustration out on, but he is a devil through and through, and is still one of the nine most powerful devils in all Hell, regardless of his dead-end job.