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	==Remember that Guy?==		==Remember that Guy?==

	Before people get a little confused, Cawl was first introduced in the ''Fall of Cadia'' phase of the [[Gathering Storm]], where (barring his mysterious ten-millennia mission) nothing was really ''known'' about the archmagos. Subsequent works have tried to fill his backstory... with varying results.		Before people get a little confused, Cawl was first introduced in the ''Fall of Cadia'' phase of the [[Gathering Storm]], where (barring his mysterious ten-millennia mission) nothing was really ''known'' about the archmagos. Subsequent works have tried to fill his backstory... with varying results.

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	His true origin was as a humble vat-clone, dumped out of a Mechanicus tube with the body of a 10 year old and a smattering of implanted knowledge. However, even then, he was a prodigy—while only a few hours old, and while his fellow vat children were uncommunicative zombies, he was asking questions and being a smartass to the magos in charge of intake selection. Of the three possible doors he could have been sent through, he was selected to enter the rarely used center door, which was implied to represent the Omnissiah. Who, as Cawl might put it, he has a non-zero probability of actually being (or becoming), given how charmed his 11 millennia of accumulated existence has been.		His true origin was as a humble vat-clone, dumped out of a Mechanicus tube with the body of a 10 year old and a smattering of implanted knowledge. However, even then, he was a prodigy—while only a few hours old, and while his fellow vat children were uncommunicative zombies, he was asking questions and being a smartass to the magos in charge of intake selection. Of the three possible doors he could have been sent through, he was selected to enter the rarely used center door, which was implied to represent the Omnissiah. Who, as Cawl might put it, he has a non-zero probability of actually being (or becoming), given how charmed his 11 millennia of accumulated existence has been.

	== During the [[Horus Heresy]] ==		==During the [[Horus Heresy]]==
	[[File:CawlYoung.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|Archmagos Cawl, back when he was still recognizably human.]]		[[File:CawlYoung.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|Archmagos Cawl, back when he was still recognizably human.]]
	Cawl's first recorded appearance in history was as a Tech-Acolyte on the Trisolian system during the Horus Heresy; while he had declined several of the more visible cybernetic augmentations favored by the tech-priests, he had secretly undergone illegal brain-enhancing surgeries to make himself smarter (including a non-standard memory core given to him by a mentor who may or may not have been planning to steal his body later). Even back then, he had a reputation as a maverick for his pro-innovation stance. His best friend was Friedisch Adum Ship Qvo, and he served under Magos Domina Hester Aspertia Sigma-Sigma.		Cawl's first recorded appearance in history was as a Tech-Acolyte on the Trisolian system during the Horus Heresy; while he had declined several of the more visible cybernetic augmentations favored by the tech-priests, he had secretly undergone illegal brain-enhancing surgeries to make himself smarter (including a non-standard memory core given to him by a mentor who may or may not have been planning to steal his body later). Even back then, he had a reputation as a maverick for his pro-innovation stance. His best friend was Friedisch Adum Ship Qvo, and he served under Magos Domina Hester Aspertia Sigma-Sigma.
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	After escaping Russ' botched assassination attempt on Horus, Cawl's stolen ship emerged from the warp sometime after the Heresy had ended, only to be immediately shot to pieces and boarded due to it being the hyper-paranoid years of the Scouring. He was detained and interrogated on Ryza, before eventually being exonerated by the testimony of a Skitarii Alpha he'd helped out during the earlier fighting, resulting in Cawl being marooned there for a few years doing bottom-rung assignments for the local Tech-priest hierarchy until he was given an offer he couldn't refuse by the aforementioned Ezekiel Sedayne, whereupon Sedayne became the second member of the Cawl Philarmonic Brainwave Orchestra.		After escaping Russ' botched assassination attempt on Horus, Cawl's stolen ship emerged from the warp sometime after the Heresy had ended, only to be immediately shot to pieces and boarded due to it being the hyper-paranoid years of the Scouring. He was detained and interrogated on Ryza, before eventually being exonerated by the testimony of a Skitarii Alpha he'd helped out during the earlier fighting, resulting in Cawl being marooned there for a few years doing bottom-rung assignments for the local Tech-priest hierarchy until he was given an offer he couldn't refuse by the aforementioned Ezekiel Sedayne, whereupon Sedayne became the second member of the Cawl Philarmonic Brainwave Orchestra.

	== Fall of Cadia ==		==Fall of Cadia==
	Cawl is introduced at a technoarchaeological dig on the planet Eriad IV, a planet only notable for having a small Imperial outpost that was destroyed in the 4th [[Black Crusade]]. Although his progress is interrupted by an [[Ork\|Orkish]] invasion, he continues onward, following the mysterious hints of the [[Shadowseer]] Sylandri Veilwalker. Eventually, he digs deep enough to find the remnants of [[Cadian Pylons\| ancient obsidian pylons]]. Cross-referencing this with similar discoveries, he realizes that [[Abaddon]] has made a point of destroying similar such pylons across his Black Crusades. He puts two and two together, and immediately starts heading for [[Cadia]], fearing that they might be the last pylons left in the galaxy.		Cawl is introduced at a technoarchaeological dig on the planet Eriad IV, a planet only notable for having a small Imperial outpost that was destroyed in the 4th [[Black Crusade]]. Although his progress is interrupted by an [[Ork\|Orkish]] invasion, he continues onward, following the mysterious hints of the [[Shadowseer]] Sylandri Veilwalker. Eventually, he digs deep enough to find the remnants of [[Cadian Pylons\| ancient obsidian pylons]]. Cross-referencing this with similar discoveries, he realizes that [[Abaddon]] has made a point of destroying similar such pylons across his Black Crusades. He puts two and two together, and immediately starts heading for [[Cadia]], fearing that they might be the last pylons left in the galaxy.

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	===Rise of the Primarch===		===Rise of the Primarch===

	This is where it's revealed that the artifact Belisarius has is the Armor of Fate and a self-fitting dressing room, commissioned by Grandpa Smurf several millennia in advance. Cawl, alongside the Ynnari, successfully uses this to resurrect Guilliman and then assists him in his crusade to Terra. When they arrive Guilliman tells Cawl to work on the second part of his mission, that of strengthening Imperial forces by pulling out all the stops on Mars.		This is where it's revealed that the artifact Belisarius has is the Armor of Fate and a self-fitting dressing room, commissioned by Grandpa Smurf several millennia in advance. Cawl, alongside the Ynnari, successfully uses this to resurrect Guilliman and then assists him in his crusade to Terra. When they arrive Guilliman tells Cawl to work on the second part of his mission, that of strengthening Imperial forces by pulling out all the stops on Mars.

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	Also, apparently, at some point either the [[Emperor]] or the [[Void Dragon\|Omnissiah]] asked Cawl to free him. No word yet on which one it was, whether he agreed, and how any of his plans to do so might be working out.		Also, apparently, at some point either the [[Emperor]] or the [[Void Dragon\|Omnissiah]] asked Cawl to free him. No word yet on which one it was, whether he agreed, and how any of his plans to do so might be working out.

	== The Man Himself ==		==The Man Himself==
	While the Gathering Storm didn't develop his personality really more than the average maverick Adeptus Mechanicus Magos, the Black Library give us a know-it-all, showy geek, Cawl is grandiloquent, prone to shock-and-awe demonstrations where he casually commits tech-heresy and gets away with it and has a very roguish disregard for authority. Like many nerds during his early life he was not above alternating between acting petulantly and then pretending loyalty and begging for mercy once the threat of violence upon him was evident, and like many nerds when bullied would take the opportunity to get his sweet revenge. It also helps that he is - somewhat onesidedly - friends with the most powerful man in the modern Imperium who also owes virtually all his current success to Cawl.		While the Gathering Storm didn't develop his personality really more than the average maverick Adeptus Mechanicus Magos, the Black Library give us a know-it-all, showy geek, Cawl is grandiloquent, prone to shock-and-awe demonstrations where he casually commits tech-heresy and gets away with it and has a very roguish disregard for authority. Like many nerds during his early life he was not above alternating between acting petulantly and then pretending loyalty and begging for mercy once the threat of violence upon him was evident, and like many nerds when bullied would take the opportunity to get his sweet revenge. It also helps that he is - somewhat onesidedly - friends with the most powerful man in the modern Imperium who also owes virtually all his current success to Cawl.

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	Yet for all his potentially dubious private pursuits, irksome eccentricities, unabashed disregard for etiquette and protocol, and so on, Cawl nonetheless fulfilled his mandate given to him by Guilliman. Without error? No. Without deviation? Absolutely not. But he succeeded and gave Guilliman (and by extension humanity) the resources to survive and stabilize. Said resources were even '''NEW''' [and shiny] because rather than being just more of the same, Cawl had actually set out to make ''modifications'' and ''improvements'', which are both dirty curse words to much of the Mechanicus. As of the conclusion of the Plague Wars, a certain level of stability has been achieved for now, and Cawl has set his sights on humanity being able to ''thrive'' once more. Unhindered by dogma or adherence to norms that cripple his peers, Cawl has the perspective, drive, resources, and knowledge to actually make that a reality. So long as Guilliman or someone keeps an eye on Cawl to pull him back from anything truly potentially ruinous, should his drive for knowledge get the best of him, he's probably not a risk. Perhaps most importantly though, some of the recent lore has revealed that Post-heresy Big-E himself put his trust in Cawl for events yet to come. The Emperor knew in some capacity even before the Unification Wars that their paths were bound together, and that he and Cawl would have even more work to do together in the future. For his part, Cawl seems to genuinely revere the Emperor as Omnissiah and wishes to better humanity. If the price of achieving that aim is tolerating some annoying personality traits, then that's hardly a cost-prohibitive transaction.		Yet for all his potentially dubious private pursuits, irksome eccentricities, unabashed disregard for etiquette and protocol, and so on, Cawl nonetheless fulfilled his mandate given to him by Guilliman. Without error? No. Without deviation? Absolutely not. But he succeeded and gave Guilliman (and by extension humanity) the resources to survive and stabilize. Said resources were even '''NEW''' [and shiny] because rather than being just more of the same, Cawl had actually set out to make ''modifications'' and ''improvements'', which are both dirty curse words to much of the Mechanicus. As of the conclusion of the Plague Wars, a certain level of stability has been achieved for now, and Cawl has set his sights on humanity being able to ''thrive'' once more. Unhindered by dogma or adherence to norms that cripple his peers, Cawl has the perspective, drive, resources, and knowledge to actually make that a reality. So long as Guilliman or someone keeps an eye on Cawl to pull him back from anything truly potentially ruinous, should his drive for knowledge get the best of him, he's probably not a risk. Perhaps most importantly though, some of the recent lore has revealed that Post-heresy Big-E himself put his trust in Cawl for events yet to come. The Emperor knew in some capacity even before the Unification Wars that their paths were bound together, and that he and Cawl would have even more work to do together in the future. For his part, Cawl seems to genuinely revere the Emperor as Omnissiah and wishes to better humanity. If the price of achieving that aim is tolerating some annoying personality traits, then that's hardly a cost-prohibitive transaction.

	== On the Tabletop ==		==On the Tabletop==
	[[File:Cawl.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Too many limbs? NO SUCH THING!]]		[[File:Cawl.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Too many limbs? NO SUCH THING!]]

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	Not only can he dish out the pain, he can take it as well, with a 2+ armor save, Toughness 6, Feel No Pain (which is re-rollable if he's the Warlord), and five wounds [[cheese\|which he restores 1d3 of each round]]. Oh, and he can also use his canticles to give himself three It Will Not Die rolls. However, he lacks Eternal Warrior, and his Invulnerable Save is a mere 5+, making him vulnerable to Instant Death.		Not only can he dish out the pain, he can take it as well, with a 2+ armor save, Toughness 6, Feel No Pain (which is re-rollable if he's the Warlord), and five wounds [[cheese\|which he restores 1d3 of each round]]. Oh, and he can also use his canticles to give himself three It Will Not Die rolls. However, he lacks Eternal Warrior, and his Invulnerable Save is a mere 5+, making him vulnerable to Instant Death.

	== List of Things Cawl ''May'' Have [[Blood Ravens\|Borrowed]] ==		==List of Things Cawl ''May'' Have [[Blood Ravens\|Borrowed]]==
	As mentioned, Papa Cawl is probably the only cogboy in the Adeptus Mechanicus (and probably in all the [[Imperium]]) who has straight-up invented ''loads'' of new shit without [[Blam\|disappearing]]. Many of his new toys have features found in other xenos and/or look like their weapons. Whether or not it is an example of [[Blood Ravens\|"borrowing" their designs]] or [[Just As Planned\|convergent invention]] [[skub\|is up to you.]] This list will certainly get bigger as more units are introduced.		As mentioned, Papa Cawl is probably the only cogboy in the Adeptus Mechanicus (and probably in all the [[Imperium]]) who has straight-up invented ''loads'' of new shit without [[Blam\|disappearing]]. Many of his new toys have features found in other xenos and/or look like their weapons. Whether or not it is an example of [[Blood Ravens\|"borrowing" their designs]] or [[Just As Planned\|convergent invention]] [[skub\|is up to you.]] This list will certainly get bigger as more units are introduced.
	===From the [[Eldar\|Space Elves]]===		===From the [[Eldar\|Space Elves]]===

	* Primaris [[Reiver]] incorporate sonic/audio weaponry into their helmets to scare the shit out of their enemies, just like the howling banshees (though to be fair, we've invented such [[Wikipedia:Sonic weapons\|weapons]] in early M3) or [[Noise Marines\|Emperor's Children]], though we're pretty sure he's not dumb enough to mess with Chaos stuff... we think. Night Lords have used such tech since the start of the Great Crusade. The Mechanicus would have made it for them even back then.		* Primaris [[Reiver]] incorporate sonic/audio weaponry into their helmets to scare the shit out of their enemies, just like the howling banshees (though to be fair, we've invented such [[Wikipedia:Sonic weapons\|weapons]] in early M3) or [[Noise Marines\|Emperor's Children]], though we're pretty sure he's not dumb enough to mess with Chaos stuff... we think. Night Lords have used such tech since the start of the Great Crusade. The Mechanicus would have made it for them even back then.
	* The Overlord Dropship uses energy shields instead of the usual void shields.		* The Overlord Dropship uses energy shields instead of the usual void shields.

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1d4chan>Gilten at 13:14, 22 February 2023

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	The first to try this was the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] codex (where he was the only named HQ), where a sidebar posits that he was part of the Emperor's team that developed the Black Carapace (!!). Needless to say, everyone forgot that the Emperor didn't create the organs by himself (even though the Larraman's Organ is literally named after one of the scientists who helped make the organs), so Black Library instead gave a background that made far more sense:		The first to try this was the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] codex (where he was the only named HQ), where a sidebar posits that he was part of the Emperor's team that developed the Black Carapace (!!). Needless to say, everyone forgot that the Emperor didn't create the organs by himself (even though the Larraman's Organ is literally named after one of the scientists who helped make the organs), so Black Library instead gave a background that made far more sense:

	It turns out that while Cawl did NOT work on developing the Black Carapace, an atheist Scientist named Ezekiel Sedayne did. At some point later, Sedayne, whose body no longer responded to ~~rejuvenat~~ treatments, attempted to steal Cawl's body and overwrite his mind, but Cawl's ego was too big to be absorbed, and he stole Sedayne's memories instead. In [[Paradox poker\|classic style]], the Emperor himself had apparently [[Just as planned\|seen this coming]], as he once [[Dick\|intentionally called Sedayne by the name Cawl]] instead of Ezekiel, even before said mindmeld occurred, somehow knowing that Cawl would be the one to later remember it. Possibly. It was a vision induced through ancient xenotech shenanigans, by the manipulative will of a C’tan, into the hive mind of a deranged cyborg, after all. It could also have been the spirit of the Emperor breaking into the vision to give him a pep talk, as he proceeded to reassure Cawl that the archmagos would only betray him once, and it would not be a true betrayal at all.		It turns out that while Cawl did NOT work on developing the Black Carapace, an atheist Scientist named Ezekiel Sedayne did. At some point later, Sedayne, whose body no longer responded to [[Rejuvenat]] treatments, attempted to steal Cawl's body and overwrite his mind, but Cawl's ego was too big to be absorbed, and he stole Sedayne's memories instead. In [[Paradox poker\|classic style]], the Emperor himself had apparently [[Just as planned\|seen this coming]], as he once [[Dick\|intentionally called Sedayne by the name Cawl]] instead of Ezekiel, even before said mindmeld occurred, somehow knowing that Cawl would be the one to later remember it. Possibly. It was a vision induced through ancient xenotech shenanigans, by the manipulative will of a C’tan, into the hive mind of a deranged cyborg, after all. It could also have been the spirit of the Emperor breaking into the vision to give him a pep talk, as he proceeded to reassure Cawl that the archmagos would only betray him once, and it would not be a true betrayal at all.

	His true origin was as a humble vat-clone, dumped out of a Mechanicus tube with the body of a 10 year old and a smattering of implanted knowledge. However, even then, he was a prodigy—while only a few hours old, and while his fellow vat children were uncommunicative zombies, he was asking questions and being a smartass to the magos in charge of intake selection. Of the three possible doors he could have been sent through, he was selected to enter the rarely used center door, which was implied to represent the Omnissiah. Who, as Cawl might put it, he has a non-zero probability of actually being (or becoming), given how charmed his 11 millennia of accumulated existence has been.		His true origin was as a humble vat-clone, dumped out of a Mechanicus tube with the body of a 10 year old and a smattering of implanted knowledge. However, even then, he was a prodigy—while only a few hours old, and while his fellow vat children were uncommunicative zombies, he was asking questions and being a smartass to the magos in charge of intake selection. Of the three possible doors he could have been sent through, he was selected to enter the rarely used center door, which was implied to represent the Omnissiah. Who, as Cawl might put it, he has a non-zero probability of actually being (or becoming), given how charmed his 11 millennia of accumulated existence has been.

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	== The Man Himself ==		== The Man Himself ==
	While the Gathering Storm didn't develop his personality really more than the average maverick Adeptus Mechanicus Magos, the Black Library give us a know-it-all, showy geek, Cawl is grandiloquent, prone to shock-and-awe demonstrations where he casually commits tech-heresy and gets away with it and has a very roguish disregard for authority. Like many nerds during his early life he was not above alternating between acting petulantly and then pretending loyalty and begging for mercy once the threat of violence upon him was evident, and like many nerds when bullied would take the opportunity to get his sweet revenge.		While the Gathering Storm didn't develop his personality really more than the average maverick Adeptus Mechanicus Magos, the Black Library give us a know-it-all, showy geek, Cawl is grandiloquent, prone to shock-and-awe demonstrations where he casually commits tech-heresy and gets away with it and has a very roguish disregard for authority. Like many nerds during his early life he was not above alternating between acting petulantly and then pretending loyalty and begging for mercy once the threat of violence upon him was evident, and like many nerds when bullied would take the opportunity to get his sweet revenge. It also helps that he is - somewhat onesidedly - friends with the most powerful man in the modern Imperium who also owes virtually all his current success to Cawl.

	Later on he loves to show he is not just in control but ready to reveal his last trick and [[just as planned]] move, up to the point of risking the wrath of his boss and a C'tan shard, which in turn demonstrates that he still got some adamantium balls, more evident if you consider the kind of punishment the Imperium in general and the Mechanicus in particular gives to tech-heresy, in other words, he is a troll, with the ego which would make an Slaaneshi Chaos Lord blush, no joke he literally said he could fix a planet devoured by Tyranids ''because he can'', how big is that in terms of ego?		Later on he loves to show he is not just in control but ready to reveal his last trick and [[just as planned]] move, up to the point of risking the wrath of his boss and a C'tan shard, which in turn demonstrates that he still got some adamantium balls, more evident if you consider the kind of punishment the Imperium in general and the Mechanicus in particular gives to tech-heresy, in other words, he is a troll, with the ego which would make an Slaaneshi Chaos Lord blush, no joke he literally said he could fix a planet devoured by Tyranids ''because he can'', how big is that in terms of ego?

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	[[File:Cawl.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Too many limbs? NO SUCH THING!]]		[[File:Cawl.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Too many limbs? NO SUCH THING!]]

	Comes with a special rule that allows you to add or subtract 1 when rolling on the Canticles of the Omnissiah which as Mars you get to roll twice and keep both, allows Mars units within 6" to re-roll any to hit in shooting, also have the ability to repair any friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|Imperium}} model within 3" by 1 wound, without caring even a little bit about its other keywords - he can repair {{W40Kkeyword\|infantry}}, {{W40Kkeyword\|cavalry}}, whatever. AdMech units get d3 wounds healed instead, though. I guess 10000 years of min maxing yourself lets you do these things. And his [[~~Melta#~~Solar Atomiser\|Solar Atomiser]] is an Assault D3 S10 AP-4 unholy beast that does D3 damage, unless the target is within half range, which then it does D6 damage.		Comes with a special rule that allows you to add or subtract 1 when rolling on the Canticles of the Omnissiah which as Mars you get to roll twice and keep both, allows Mars units within 6" to re-roll any to hit in shooting, also have the ability to repair any friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|Imperium}} model within 3" by 1 wound, without caring even a little bit about its other keywords - he can repair {{W40Kkeyword\|infantry}}, {{W40Kkeyword\|cavalry}}, whatever. AdMech units get d3 wounds healed instead, though. I guess 10000 years of min maxing yourself lets you do these things. And his [[Solar Atomiser\|Solar Atomiser]] is an Assault D3 S10 AP-4 unholy beast that does D3 damage, unless the target is within half range, which then it does D6 damage.

	===7th Edition===		===7th Edition===

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	===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===		===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===
	* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}		* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}
			**Like wise Phobos marines may also have some tau Inspiration. It's not as obvious as the tau Fire Warriors, but they also have the mis matched pauldrons with the left being slightly larger.

	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.

66.208.33.254: /* From the T'au */

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	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.
	** New Contemptor Dreadnaught has a Plasma Cannon that looks very similar. Since those predate Tau civilization by 4 thousand years, [[Derp\|it means the blueberries stole from the Imperium, not the other way around]].		** New Contemptor Dreadnaught has a Plasma Cannon that looks very similar. Since those predate Tau civilization by 4 thousand years, [[Derp\|it means the blueberries stole from the Imperium, not the other way around]].
			*** But they got it from the [[Leagues of Votann]] who have a bunch of dark age stuff so that begs the question whether Cawl had those Incinerators lying around or whether he ''actually'' stole them from the squats massive dark age cache.
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1d4chan>Bob90: /* From the T'au */ Added new flavor for the leagues

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	===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===		===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===
	* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}}		* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}

	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.

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	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.
	** New Contemptor Dreadnaught has a Plasma Cannon that looks very ~~similiar~~. Since those predate Tau civilization by 4 thousand years, [[Derp\|it means the blueberries stole from the Imperium, not the other way around]].		** New Contemptor Dreadnaught has a Plasma Cannon that looks very similar. Since those predate Tau civilization by 4 thousand years, [[Derp\|it means the blueberries stole from the Imperium, not the other way around]].

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	* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}		* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}
			**Like wise Phobos marines may also have some tau Inspiration. It's not as obvious as the tau Fire Warriors, but they also have the mis matched pauldrons with the left being slightly larger.

	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.

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	===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===		===From the [[Tau\|T'au]]===
	* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}}		* The [[Primaris Captain\|Primaris Captains']] Gravis Armour appears to be inspired from the Tau, though they may be also inspired by the [[Squats\|Squat]] [[Hearthguard\|Hearth]]{{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|Heresy, Squats don't exist!}} {{BLAM\|VOOOOOM!}} {{BLAM\|What do you mean [[Leagues of Votann\|WE]] don't exist!}}

	* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.		* The [[Redemptor Dreadnought\|Redemptor Dreadnoughts']] Plasma Incinerator has two large bulges underneath the barrel which causes it to bear a striking resemblance to T'au Ion weaponry.