Ben-Hadar - Revision history

imported>Administrator: 11 revisions imported

2023-06-17T23:16:10Z

11 revisions imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 23:16, 17 June 2023
(No difference)

2603:8001:3500:CB:4472:F681:74BD:838A: /* 3rd Edition */

2021-06-26T03:03:52Z

3rd Edition

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:03, 26 June 2021
Line 19:		Line 19:
	When he was updated to 3rd edition in [[Dragon Magazine]] #353, Ben-Hadar became a very different character. This Ben-Hadar is described as a deeply emotional, intuitive being with a personality akin to a tropical storm: boisterous, loud and aggressive on the outside, but calm, peaceful and serene on the inside. He's still arrogant, and rather gruff, but he truly cares about his followers and would sacrifice his own life to protect them and his plane. Although easily bored, disappointed and dejected, he's equally easy to fill with love and happiness.		When he was updated to 3rd edition in [[Dragon Magazine]] #353, Ben-Hadar became a very different character. This Ben-Hadar is described as a deeply emotional, intuitive being with a personality akin to a tropical storm: boisterous, loud and aggressive on the outside, but calm, peaceful and serene on the inside. He's still arrogant, and rather gruff, but he truly cares about his followers and would sacrifice his own life to protect them and his plane. Although easily bored, disappointed and dejected, he's equally easy to fill with love and happiness.

	Of the three elder Good Archomentals, Ben-Hadar is the most scarred by what happened during the War of Law and Chaos; having already been sympathetic with [[Chan]]'s horror at learning the Lawful forces were working with the forces of [[Lawful Evil]], when Bristia Pel was murdered by Chilimba and Ehkahk, it was the last straw - Ben-Hadar turned on the vaati in disillusioned fury and fought on the side of Chaos for the rest of the war. This incident taught him that evil comes from all sides, and convinced him that he can trust no-one but himself. Ben-Hadar believes that seeking out evil to destroy is is a fool's enterprise, and that even evil creatures can sometimes be used for good purposes. As such, he keeps his affairs private and doesn't go picking fights - but anyone who picks one with him, well, they'll regret it. This is evidently why he's considered [[Neutral Good]].		Of the three elder Good Archomentals, Ben-Hadar is the most scarred by what happened during the War of Law and Chaos; having already been sympathetic with [[Chan]]'s horror at learning the Lawful forces were working with the forces of [[Lawful Evil]], when Bristia Pel was murdered by Chilimba and Ehkahk, it was the last straw - Ben-Hadar turned on the vaati in disillusioned fury and fought on the side of Chaos for the rest of the war. This incident taught him that evil comes from all sides, and convinced him that he can trust no-one but himself. Ben-Hadar believes that seeking out evil to destroy is a fool's enterprise, and that even evil creatures can sometimes be used for good purposes. As such, he keeps his affairs private and doesn't go picking fights - but anyone who picks one with him, well, they'll regret it. This is evidently why he's considered [[Neutral Good]].

	As in his 2e lore, 3e Ben-Hadar has no particular enmity for [[Olhydra]], and the two Archomentals mostly ignore each other. However, his rivalry with [[Chan]] and [[Zaaman Rul]] has been quietly dropped.		As in his 2e lore, 3e Ben-Hadar has no particular enmity for [[Olhydra]], and the two Archomentals mostly ignore each other. However, his rivalry with [[Chan]] and [[Zaaman Rul]] has been quietly dropped.

2603:8001:3500:CB:4472:F681:74BD:838A: /* 2nd Edition */

2021-06-26T03:01:35Z

2nd Edition

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:01, 26 June 2021
Line 6:		Line 6:

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==
	Ruling over the goodly denizens of the Elemental Plane of Water from a hidden palace in the Coral Reef of Ssesurgass, the Neutral Good Ben-Hadar has the dubious honor of being one of the biggest assholes to still claim the title of "Elemental Prince of Good". Described an arrogant, selfish boor, Ben-Hadar clings to the title of Good only in that he fights evil at every turn and ~~promoes~~ the general welfare of those under him.		Ruling over the goodly denizens of the Elemental Plane of Water from a hidden palace in the Coral Reef of Ssesurgass, the Neutral Good Ben-Hadar has the dubious honor of being one of the biggest assholes to still claim the title of "Elemental Prince of Good". Described an arrogant, selfish boor, Ben-Hadar clings to the title of Good only in that he fights evil at every turn and promotes the general welfare of those under him.

	In fact, Ben-Hadar has relatively little to do with his malicious counterpart [[Olhydra]] - his bitterest enmities seem to be with [[Chan]] and [[Zaaman Rul]], his fellow Archomentals of Good!		In fact, Ben-Hadar has relatively little to do with his malicious counterpart [[Olhydra]] - his bitterest enmities seem to be with [[Chan]] and [[Zaaman Rul]], his fellow Archomentals of Good!

1d4chan>The Buzzer at 15:17, 12 May 2021

2021-05-12T15:17:10Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:17, 12 May 2021
Line 3:		Line 3:
	'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].		'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].

	Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since 1) its never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, 2) dragons and archomentals both make for decent ~~questgivers~~ anyway, and 3)complaining about grid-filling in D&D doesn't make much sense when grid-filling is build into the very lore and metaphysical structure of the Great Wheel.		Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since 1) its never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, 2) dragons and archomentals both make for decent quest givers anyway, and 3) complaining about grid-filling in D&D doesn't make much sense when grid-filling is build into the very lore and metaphysical structure of the Great Wheel.

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==

1d4chan>The Buzzer at 15:16, 12 May 2021

2021-05-12T15:16:29Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:16, 12 May 2021
Line 3:		Line 3:
	'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].		'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].

	Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since 1)~~it's~~ never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, 2) dragons and archomentals both make for decent questgivers anyway, and 3)complaining about grid-filling in D&D doesn't make much sense when grid-filling is build into the very lore and metaphysical structure of the Great Wheel.		Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since 1) its never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, 2) dragons and archomentals both make for decent questgivers anyway, and 3)complaining about grid-filling in D&D doesn't make much sense when grid-filling is build into the very lore and metaphysical structure of the Great Wheel.

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==

1d4chan>Skadooshbag at 23:37, 2 January 2021

2021-01-02T23:37:00Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:37, 2 January 2021
Line 3:		Line 3:
	'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].		'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].

	Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since it's never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, ~~and~~ dragons and archomentals both make for decent questgivers anyway.		Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since 1)it's never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, 2) dragons and archomentals both make for decent questgivers anyway, and 3)complaining about grid-filling in D&D doesn't make much sense when grid-filling is build into the very lore and metaphysical structure of the Great Wheel.

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==

1d4chan>Skadooshbag at 00:27, 12 February 2020

2020-02-12T00:27:45Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:27, 12 February 2020
Line 3:		Line 3:
	'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].		'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].

	Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling.		Unfortunately, the Princes of Elemental Good have never really had the traction of their more malevolent counterparts, in one part because DMs rarely have as much use for goodly monsters as they do for malign ones (evil parties are, after all, the rarity in D&D) and in another part because they really exemplify the complaints many D&D fans make of [[Planescape]] relying a little too heavily on grid-filling. Then again, that's a pretty dumb reason, since it's never stopped the metallic dragons from always turning up alongside the chromatics, and dragons and archomentals both make for decent questgivers anyway.

	==2nd Edition==		==2nd Edition==

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: /* 3rd Edition */

2019-11-04T11:08:53Z

3rd Edition

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:08, 4 November 2019
Line 25:		Line 25:
	Ben-Hadar rules from a fortified palace of living coral called Ssesurgass, where he is served by and watches over Colossal coral [[golem]]s, water [[elemental]]s, water [[mephit]]s, [[Elemental Weird\|water weirds]], [[triton]]s, [[darfellan]], ocean [[giant]]s and aquatic [[elves]].		Ben-Hadar rules from a fortified palace of living coral called Ssesurgass, where he is served by and watches over Colossal coral [[golem]]s, water [[elemental]]s, water [[mephit]]s, [[Elemental Weird\|water weirds]], [[triton]]s, [[darfellan]], ocean [[giant]]s and aquatic [[elves]].

	He is rumored to be an ally or even occasional lover of Queen Morwel of the [[Eladrin]], and a gargantuan [[sisiutl]] known as Triusis zealously guards a portal linking Ssesurgass to Queen Morwel's personal demiplane. He also stays on good terms with [[Deep ~~SashelAs~~]], [[Eadro]] and [[Persan]], as well as the Water Lion. His oddest friendship is with the [[Slaad]] Lord Rennbuu, Lord of Colors, who often visits Ssesurgass to play with the massive coral reefs.		He is rumored to be an ally or even occasional lover of Queen Morwel of the [[Eladrin]], and a gargantuan [[sisiutl]] known as Triusis zealously guards a portal linking Ssesurgass to Queen Morwel's personal demiplane. He also stays on good terms with [[Deep Sashelas]], [[Eadro]] and [[Persan]], as well as the Water Lion. His oddest friendship is with the [[Slaad]] Lord Rennbuu, Lord of Colors, who often visits Ssesurgass to play with the massive coral reefs.

	Ben-Hadar's major roles on the Plane of Water include policing the vortices to River Styx and the River Oceanus, keeping a watchful eye on Charon that he will live up to their ancient pledge of mutual non-interference, ensuring the [[genie\|marids]] of the Citadel of Ten Thousand Pearls stay in line, and opposing [[Sekolah]] and [[Panzuriel]]. He is often harassed by Bwimb II, daughter of the Archomental of Ooze Bwimb, and it's possible that the nauseating slop elemental has a perverse crush on her watery counterpart.		Ben-Hadar's major roles on the Plane of Water include policing the vortices to River Styx and the River Oceanus, keeping a watchful eye on Charon that he will live up to their ancient pledge of mutual non-interference, ensuring the [[genie\|marids]] of the Citadel of Ten Thousand Pearls stay in line, and opposing [[Sekolah]] and [[Panzuriel]]. He is often harassed by Bwimb II, daughter of the Archomental of Ooze Bwimb, and it's possible that the nauseating slop elemental has a perverse crush on her watery counterpart.

1d4chan>QuietBrowser at 02:21, 16 December 2017

2017-12-16T02:21:58Z

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
 [[File:Ben-Hadar 2e.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Ben-Hadar in 2e.]]
 [[File:Ben-Hadar 3e.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Ben-Hadar in 3e, facing a kraken.]]
@@ Line 7: / Line 6: @@
 ==2nd Edition==
-The Princes of Elemental Good first appeared in the Monstrous Compendium Appendix 3 for [[Planescape]].
+Ruling over the goodly denizens of the Elemental Plane of Water from a hidden palace in the Coral Reef of Ssesurgass, the Neutral Good Ben-Hadar has the dubious honor of being one of the biggest assholes to still claim the title of "Elemental Prince of Good". Described an arrogant, selfish boor, Ben-Hadar clings to the title of Good only in that he fights evil at every turn and promoes the general welfare of those under him.
 ==3rd Edition==
-The 3rd edition update for all of the Princes of Elemental Good happened in issue #353 of [[Dragon magazine]]
+''A rush of pure, blue-green water coalesces into a humanoid shape taller than three men. Its eyes sparkle lke sunlight shining on ocean waves. Instead of hands, this creature has a set of watery claws resembling those of a gigantic crustacean.''
 {{D&D-Archomentals}}

1d4chan>Biggus Berrus at 13:58, 9 December 2017

2017-12-09T13:58:18Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:58, 9 December 2017
Line 1:		Line 1:
	{{dnd-stub}}		{{dnd-stub}}
			[[File:Ben-Hadar 2e.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|Ben-Hadar in 2e.]]
			[[File:Ben-Hadar 3e.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|left\|Ben-Hadar in 3e, facing a kraken.]]
	'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].		'''Ben-Hadar''', Prince of Good Water Creatures and Good Elemental Water, is one of the four Princes of Elemental Good, a band of benevolent [[Archomental]]s introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons]] to counter the machinations of the older, more iconic Princes of Elemental Evil: [[Cryonax]], [[Imix]], [[Ogremoch]], [[Olhydra]] and [[Yan-C-Bin]].