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2601:188:C300:64B8:502C:A1CA:E530:692E: /* The Original Setting */

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The Original Setting

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	Arneson went to [[Judges Guild]] to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:		Arneson went to [[Judges Guild]] to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:
	* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4] (Ironically, Lovecraft fans saved the info on their own wiki https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_of_Coot )		* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4] (Ironically, Lovecraft fans saved the info on their own wiki https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_of_Coot )
			*King Funk, leader of the orcs, chosen by the Egg of Coot to lead them in assaults against the southern folks. Ruler of a massive underground dungeon system.
	* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners		* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners
	* vikings, from further north of the Egg		* vikings, from further north of the Egg

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The DA Series */

2021-09-12T02:43:10Z

The DA Series

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	As to the character of the DA adventures, this was more Ritchie's input than Arneson's - much as ''[[From The Ashes]]'' was Sargent's, not Gygax's. The time travel aspect was entirely inserted by TSR.		As to the character of the DA adventures, this was more Ritchie's input than Arneson's - much as ''[[From The Ashes]]'' was Sargent's, not Gygax's. The time travel aspect was entirely inserted by TSR.

	In the Ritchie vision, The Great Kingdom is here identified with the ~~Mystaran~~ nation Thonia, but far in the past. Thonia aren't the good guys ~~anymore~~; they're another Rome knockoff, like the collapsing Great Kingdom in the Flanaess.		In the Ritchie vision, The Great Kingdom is here identified with the [[Basic Dungeons & Dragons\|Master Set]] nation Thonia, but far in the past. Here the Kingdom / Thonia aren't the good guys; they're another Rome knockoff, like the collapsing Great Kingdom in the Flanaess.

	Most of all - this is clearest in DA4, which is entirely Ritchie - something's happened to the west of the map. A new nation, the Afridhi, have overrun the Peshwah and annexed the Ten. Squeezed from the west, Blackmoor leads the surrounding baronies to secede from Thonia to the southeast. ''That'' is the war in the DA series' past; not the war which Arneson's group played out. The Afridhi serve a paraZoroastrian creature from the Sphere of Energy, Zugzul, who has a thing for fire.		Most of all - this is clearest in DA4, which is entirely Ritchie - something's happened to the west of the map. A new nation, the Afridhi, have overrun the Peshwah and annexed the Ten. Squeezed from the west, Blackmoor leads the surrounding baronies to secede from Thonia to the southeast. ''That'' is the war in the DA series' past; not the war which Arneson's group played out. The Afridhi serve a paraZoroastrian creature from the Sphere of Energy, Zugzul, who has a thing for fire.

	(As for what's up with all the Iranian references, Ritchie had a throbbing hard-on for Northwest Frontier / [[Flashman]] stories. It shows.)		(As for what's up with all the Iranian references, Ritchie had a throbbing hard-on for Northwest Frontier / [[Flashman]] stories. It shows.)

1d4chan>The Hat That Was at 20:09, 3 August 2021

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	{{Oldschool}}~~[[File:1977 Blackmoor full size.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|Recreation of the map of Blackmoor. Some details added by the artist.]]~~		{{Oldschool}}

	Before [[Greyhawk]], there was Blackmoor.		Before [[Greyhawk]], there was Blackmoor.

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	For information on the setting itself, it's suggested that you go to [http://blackmoor.mystara.us/ the Mystara fansite's section on Blackmoor].		For information on the setting itself, it's suggested that you go to [http://blackmoor.mystara.us/ the Mystara fansite's section on Blackmoor].

			==Gallery==
			<gallery>
			1977 Blackmoor full size.png\|Recreation of the map of Blackmoor. Some details added by the artist.
			Blackmoor 3E map.jpg\|The Zeitgeist 3rd Edition map of Blackmoor.
			</gallery>

	{{Template:D&D-Settings}}		{{Template:D&D-Settings}}
	[[Category: Mystara]][[Category:Blackmoor]]		[[Category: Mystara]][[Category:Blackmoor]]

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The Original Setting */

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The Original Setting

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	The JG version was mixed in with ''Chainmail'' references down to the last [[balrog]]. One can also see here how much Greyhawk took from the same C&C source: not just the Great Kingdom, but also Ten(h) and Blackmoor itself.		The JG version was mixed in with ''Chainmail'' references down to the last [[balrog]]. One can also see here how much Greyhawk took from the same C&C source: not just the Great Kingdom, but also Ten(h) and Blackmoor itself.

			One notable landmark in Blackmoor City is the Comeback Inn. If you haven't paid your tab and you try to leave, you get switched around to come... BACK. [[Dohohoho]]! Only an employee of the Inn can pull you out again. Keep an eye on that'un.

	==The DA Series==		==The DA Series==

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The DA Series */

2021-07-29T03:18:54Z

The DA Series

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The Original Setting */

2021-07-17T18:51:17Z

The Original Setting

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	==The Original Setting==		==The Original Setting==
	Arneson went to Judges Guild to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:		Arneson went to [[Judges Guild]] to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:
	* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4] (Ironically, Lovecraft fans saved the info on their own wiki https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_of_Coot )		* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4] (Ironically, Lovecraft fans saved the info on their own wiki https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_of_Coot )
	* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners		* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners

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	{{Template:D&D-Settings}}		{{Template:D&D-Settings}}
	[[Category: Mystara]]		[[Category: Mystara]][[Category:Blackmoor]]

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The Zeitgeist Era */

2021-07-17T18:21:25Z

The Zeitgeist Era

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	While teaching at Full Sail University, Arneson partnered with fellow college lecturer Dustin Clingman and together they acquired the license to publish Blackmoor material from Wizards of the Coast. In 2004 they formed Zeitgeist Games and started publishing MMRPG adventures and a bunch of Blackmoor books for 3.5e and one for 4e.		While teaching at Full Sail University, Arneson partnered with fellow college lecturer Dustin Clingman and together they acquired the license to publish Blackmoor material from Wizards of the Coast. In 2004 they formed Zeitgeist Games and started publishing MMRPG adventures and a bunch of Blackmoor books for 3.5e and one for 4e.

	Shortly before Arneson passed away, the license expired and, as with other such arrangements in the 4e era, WotC declined to renew. New Blackmoor content ceased. Proposed supplements like "Age of the Wolf" became nothing more than myth and vaporware. The legal status of the setting is said to be a jumbled mess, furthering the setting's fate in limbo. It is likely that ownership has reverted back to Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast, but few people seem to be talking. For the time being, any and all support has been left up to the fans. This has lead to all sorts of fan creations, like filling in the timeline blanks, creating new enemies for Blackmoor and even bringing it back to Mystara through several improbable incarnations (including one where it's evil for some reason). Many of these can be found on [~~http://pandius.com The~~ Vaults of Pandius].		Shortly before Arneson passed away, the license expired and, as with other such arrangements in the 4e era, WotC declined to renew. New Blackmoor content ceased. Proposed supplements like "Age of the Wolf" became nothing more than myth and vaporware. The legal status of the setting is said to be a jumbled mess, furthering the setting's fate in limbo. It is likely that ownership has reverted back to Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast, but few people seem to be talking. For the time being, any and all support has been left up to the fans. This has lead to all sorts of fan creations, like filling in the timeline blanks, creating new enemies for Blackmoor and even bringing it back to Mystara through several improbable incarnations (including one where it's evil for some reason). Many of these can be found on the [[Vaults of Pandius]].

	For information on the setting itself, it's suggested that you go to [http://blackmoor.mystara.us/ the Mystara fansite's section on Blackmoor].		For information on the setting itself, it's suggested that you go to [http://blackmoor.mystara.us/ the Mystara fansite's section on Blackmoor].

2601:188:C300:64B8:79E2:E7BE:8948:70E6: Added a link to the info on the monster/deity/aberration The Egg of Coot

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Added a link to the info on the monster/deity/aberration The Egg of Coot

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	==The Original Setting==		==The Original Setting==
	Arneson went to Judges Guild to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:		Arneson went to Judges Guild to publish the Blackmoor notes he had. Editing was near-nonexistent but we did get a map, and a summary of some of the major factions:
	* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4]		* the Land of Coot, a round peninsula connected to the north via a causeway or isthmus, full of monsters led by the Egg of Coot, whatever that is. [An anon with an IP address here asspulls "an eldritch horror that once was humanoid but has warped over time into a gray fleshy oval covered in mouths and eyes" which we didn't read up to DA4] (Ironically, Lovecraft fans saved the info on their own wiki https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_of_Coot )
	* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners		* the Duchy of Ten, sometimes antagonists sometimes trading partners
	* vikings, from further north of the Egg		* vikings, from further north of the Egg

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	Years later when BECMI D&D was being published, Blackmoor popped up again and was integrated by TSR into its default setting "[[Mystara]]" as an antediluvian or [[Precursors\|precursor]] civilization. Three modules were writen by David J. Ritchie and Dave Arneson:		Years later when BECMI D&D was being published, Blackmoor popped up again and was integrated by TSR into its default setting "[[Mystara]]" as an antediluvian or [[Precursors\|precursor]] civilization. Three modules were writen by David J. Ritchie and Dave Arneson:

	* DA1 Adventures in Blackmoor; unites the Mystaran present with Blackmoor in the past		* [[DA1: Adventures in Blackmoor]]: unites the Mystaran present with Blackmoor in the past
	* DA2 Temple of the Frog		* [[DA2: Temple of the Frog]] and [[DA3: City of the Gods]]: a duology
	* DA3 City of the Gods
	Then they parted ways and Ritchie hustled this one out, against Arneson's will:		Then they parted ways and Ritchie hustled this one out, against Arneson's will:
	* DA4 The Duchy of Ten		* [[DA4: The Duchy of Ten]]

	Also in this period Arneson published, "The Garbage Pits of Despair", a Blackmoor adventure found in Different Worlds magazine.		Also in this period Arneson published, "The Garbage Pits of Despair", a Blackmoor adventure found in Different Worlds magazine.

	The DA series sold well. Ritchie was ''about'' to do a DA5, for Blackmoor Castle proper. Also planned, or perhaps coterminous with that, was a present-day Mystara boxed set that would have incorporated Blackmoor - as had DA1. But [[Lorraine Williams\|Lorraine]], in her infinite wisdom, decided to axe Blackmoor and Mystara both. While Bruce Heard has told everyone to move on, he is supposedly still upset over this.		The DA series sold well, despite the flaws of its components. Ritchie was ''about'' to do a DA5, for Blackmoor Castle proper. Also planned, or perhaps coterminous with that, was a present-day Mystara boxed set that would have incorporated Blackmoor - as had DA1. But [[Lorraine Williams\|Lorraine]], in her infinite wisdom, decided to axe Blackmoor and Mystara both. While Bruce Heard has told everyone to move on, he is supposedly still upset over this.

	As to the character of the DA adventures, this was more Ritchie's input than Arneson's - much as ''[[From The Ashes]]'' was Sargent's, not Gygax's. The time travel aspect was entirely inserted by TSR.		As to the character of the DA adventures, this was more Ritchie's input than Arneson's - much as ''[[From The Ashes]]'' was Sargent's, not Gygax's. The time travel aspect was entirely inserted by TSR.
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	Most of all - this is clearest in DA4, which is entirely Ritchie - something's happened to the west of the map. A new nation, the Afridhi, have overrun the Peshwah and annexed the Ten. Squeezed from the west, Blackmoor leads the surrounding baronies to secede from Thonia to the southeast. ''That'' is the war in the DA series' past; not the war which Arneson's group played out. The Afridhi serve a paraZoroastrian creature from the Sphere of Energy, Zugzul, who has a thing for fire.		Most of all - this is clearest in DA4, which is entirely Ritchie - something's happened to the west of the map. A new nation, the Afridhi, have overrun the Peshwah and annexed the Ten. Squeezed from the west, Blackmoor leads the surrounding baronies to secede from Thonia to the southeast. ''That'' is the war in the DA series' past; not the war which Arneson's group played out. The Afridhi serve a paraZoroastrian creature from the Sphere of Energy, Zugzul, who has a thing for fire.

	(As for what's up with all the Iranian references, Ritchie had a throbbing hard-on for Northwest Frontier / Flashman stories. It shows.)		(As for what's up with all the Iranian references, Ritchie had a throbbing hard-on for Northwest Frontier / [[Flashman]] stories. It shows.)

	As matters stand at the start of DA1, one Taha Marcovic has rallied the northern marches of the Empire, like Bel Riose in ''Foundation''. Taha proposes to restore Blackmoor to the Empire. Blackmoor wouldn't normally mind, since Taha is more competent BY FAR than the losers whom Thonia has posted up here in the past. But - reasonably - the northerners suspect that Taha doesn't want the place for its own sake; he wants to drain it of its wealth and soldiery for a new adventure: taking the Imperial Purple. That would leave Blackmoor wide open to the Afridhi, or the Vikings - "Skandaharians".		As matters stand at the start of DA1, one Taha Marcovic has rallied the northern marches of the Empire, like Bel Riose in ''Foundation''. Taha proposes to restore Blackmoor to the Empire. Blackmoor wouldn't normally mind, since Taha is more competent BY FAR than the losers whom Thonia has posted up here in the past. But - reasonably - the northerners suspect that Taha doesn't want the place for its own sake; he wants to drain it of its wealth and soldiery for a new adventure: taking the Imperial Purple. That would leave Blackmoor wide open to the Afridhi, or the Vikings - "Skandaharians".