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	===Post-[[Cicatrix Maledictum]]===		===Post-[[Cicatrix Maledictum]]===

	In the White Dwarf of July 2019 we discovered [[Advancing the Storyline\|what happened after Acheron]].		In the White Dwarf of July 2019 we discovered [[Advancing the Storyline\|what happened after Acheron]].

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	It was in this situation that the Custodes made contact with the Blood Ravens and informed them of [[Indomitus Crusade\|all]] [[Roboute Guilliman\|that]] [[Cicatrix Maledictum\|happened]] on the Terran side. They also "brought" with them Primaris gene-seed to help rebuild their chapter. When the Custodes made it clear that they would not take "no" for an answer, the Blood Ravens accepted and started creating Primaris Marines, and eventually this saw them back to fighting status.		It was in this situation that the Custodes made contact with the Blood Ravens and informed them of [[Indomitus Crusade\|all]] [[Roboute Guilliman\|that]] [[Cicatrix Maledictum\|happened]] on the Terran side. They also "brought" with them Primaris gene-seed to help rebuild their chapter. When the Custodes made it clear that they would not take "no" for an answer, the Blood Ravens accepted and started creating Primaris Marines, and eventually this saw them back to fighting status.

	Given that the future of Dawn of War is not very bright at all and the Blood Ravens were created to be poster boys for that series, this is quite possibly the last we'll ever hear of them.		Given that the future of Dawn of War is not very bright at all and the Blood Ravens were created to be poster boys for that series, this is quite possibly the last we'll ever hear of them.

	Some highlights include:		Some highlights include:
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	*Sometime later the Blood Ravens joined in with [[Roboute Guilliman]]'s Indomitus Crusade and help liberate thousands of worlds in the Dark Imperium side of the Galaxy and possibly acquire more "Gifts" for the Reliquary.		*Sometime later the Blood Ravens joined in with [[Roboute Guilliman]]'s Indomitus Crusade and help liberate thousands of worlds in the Dark Imperium side of the Galaxy and possibly acquire more "Gifts" for the Reliquary.

	== The Thousand Sons connection ==		==The Thousand Sons connection==
	While the records of who the Blood Ravens are descended from are lost/redacted/burned, etc. The Blood Ravens have made it a mission to find out. In general, possibilities have ranged from just loyalists (such as having relics of several different chapters / legions, including a few relics from primarchs), to being a [[Traitor Legion Loyalists\|loyal successor of a traitor legion]] (due to having extremely strong links to Thousand Sons). Most specifically, the strongest evidence for the Thousand Sons' progenitor legion indeed being that of the Great Crusade-era Thousand Sons' Corvidae Cult:		While the records of who the Blood Ravens are descended from are lost/redacted/burned, etc. The Blood Ravens have made it a mission to find out. In general, possibilities have ranged from just loyalists (such as having relics of several different chapters / legions, including a few relics from primarchs), to being a [[Traitor Legion Loyalists\|loyal successor of a traitor legion]] (due to having extremely strong links to Thousand Sons). Most specifically, the strongest evidence for the Thousand Sons' progenitor legion indeed being that of the Great Crusade-era Thousand Sons' Corvidae Cult:

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	* In the Index Astartes - Blood Ravens, the section talking of their combat doctrine alludes to how their foresight is similar to how Magistus Amon's (founder of the Corvidae Cult) warnings to Magnus inadvertently lead to the primarchs fall to Chaos.		* In the Index Astartes - Blood Ravens, the section talking of their combat doctrine alludes to how their foresight is similar to how Magistus Amon's (founder of the Corvidae Cult) warnings to Magnus inadvertently lead to the primarchs fall to Chaos.

	=== Founded by Janus? ===		===Founded by Janus?===
	If the Blood Ravens were somehow founded by Arvida, after his transformation into Janus, then it would well explain how the Blood Ravens suffer neither the Flesh Change, nor Rubric. As Janus was created by infusing Arvida with a shard of Magnus' soul. Magnus was noted to have a stabilising effect on the Thousand Sons' gene-seed (basically stabilising the warp-fuckery that is inherent to the Tsons gene-seed). Arvida merging directly with a shard of Magnus could have easily perma-fixed not only his body but his gene-seed as well, so even gene-seed grown from his progenoid glands would not suffer the gene-flaws. However, after the merge, "Janus" claimed that he had no memory of his life as Arvida. He could have later remembered his past life, or as the Grand Master of the Grey Knights, there would be nothing stopping him from finding out. And being a shard of Magnus (and one of the Thousand Sons), finding lost knowledge would always be of interest to him. Alternatively, he may have been under orders from [[Malcador]] or the Emperor to claim as such.		If the Blood Ravens were somehow founded by Arvida, after his transformation into Janus, then it would well explain how the Blood Ravens suffer neither the Flesh Change, nor Rubric. As Janus was created by infusing Arvida with a shard of Magnus' soul. Magnus was noted to have a stabilising effect on the Thousand Sons' gene-seed (basically stabilising the warp-fuckery that is inherent to the Tsons gene-seed). Arvida merging directly with a shard of Magnus could have easily perma-fixed not only his body but his gene-seed as well, so even gene-seed grown from his progenoid glands would not suffer the gene-flaws. However, after the merge, "Janus" claimed that he had no memory of his life as Arvida. He could have later remembered his past life, or as the Grand Master of the Grey Knights, there would be nothing stopping him from finding out. And being a shard of Magnus (and one of the Thousand Sons), finding lost knowledge would always be of interest to him. Alternatively, he may have been under orders from [[Malcador]] or the Emperor to claim as such.

	The hints at Janus being the founder of the Blood Ravens is the strongest of any potential individual:		The hints at Janus being the founder of the Blood Ravens is the strongest of any potential individual:
	* A statement he made, without anyone around to hear him, "'Knowledge is Power'", is the first part of the Blood Raven's chapter motto.		* A statement he made, without anyone around to hear him, "'Knowledge is Power'", is the first part of the Blood Raven's chapter motto.
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	* Janus disappeared sometime between 546.M32 and 290.M34, as by the latter date, the Grey Knights have a new Supreme Grandmaster.		* Janus disappeared sometime between 546.M32 and 290.M34, as by the latter date, the Grey Knights have a new Supreme Grandmaster.

	== On the Tabletop ==		==On the Tabletop==

	Thanks to Dawn of War, Blood Ravens now receive at least passing mention in each Space Marine codex -- including, as mentioned above, a lot of fluff and rules updates in July 2019's White Dwarf.		Thanks to Dawn of War, Blood Ravens now receive at least passing mention in each Space Marine codex -- including, as mentioned above, a lot of fluff and rules updates in July 2019's White Dwarf.

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	The release of the 2019 Space Marines codex, however, made it clear that Magpies still steal everything, including chapter tactics — as theirs is a pick of two options from the make-your-own-successor-tactic list, and Purgatorus is a generic relic available to anyone.		The release of the 2019 Space Marines codex, however, made it clear that Magpies still steal everything, including chapter tactics — as theirs is a pick of two options from the make-your-own-successor-tactic list, and Purgatorus is a generic relic available to anyone.

	=== Blood Ravens Paint Scheme ===		===Blood Ravens Paint Scheme===
	[[File:Rik Turner's Blood Ravens.png\|275px\|thumb\|right\|They were gifted Primaris Gene Seed from the Custodes. No, literally.]]		[[File:Rik Turner's Blood Ravens.png\|275px\|thumb\|right\|They were gifted Primaris Gene Seed from the Custodes. No, literally.]]

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|Legend. Apocryphal. You made it up. You made it the fuck up.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|Legend. Apocryphal. You made it up. You made it the fuck up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].
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	==Fanboy Ravens==		==Fanboy Ravens==
	The Blood Ravens have also been known for their excessively fangirl-esque behavior, including forging weapons for other chapters and declaring them relics after the receiving chapter rejected them, and naming wargear after off-hand comments by famous chapters, though by now they themselves are a very famous chapter.		The Blood Ravens have also been known for their excessively fangirl-esque behavior, including forging weapons for other chapters and declaring them relics after the receiving chapter rejected them, and naming wargear after off-hand comments by famous chapters, though by now they themselves are a very famous chapter.

	Alternatively, they may just enjoy trolling the hell out of other chapters. For a chapter that gives all of zero fucks about slaughtering the Sisters of Battle and Imperial Guard, it could really go either way. Either this, or Relic are massive trolls themselves and all of the Space Gypsy stuff is [[Just as planned\|just as planned]].		Alternatively, they may just enjoy trolling the hell out of other chapters. For a chapter that gives all of zero fucks about slaughtering the Sisters of Battle and Imperial Guard, it could really go either way. Either this, or Relic are massive trolls themselves and all of the Space Gypsy stuff is [[Just as planned\|just as planned]].
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	== Daily Rituals ==		==Daily Rituals==
	04:00 - Rousing from slumber. The Ravens get up from their beds, which they got as a "gift".		04:00 - Rousing from slumber. The Ravens get up from their beds, which they got as a "gift".

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the fuck up.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|Legend. Apocryphal. You made it up. You made it the fuck up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the ~~****~~ up.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the fuck up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|~~If you steal, might as well do~~ it ~~from~~ the ~~best~~.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the **** up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].

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	They have ''waaaaaaaay'' too many psykers and are obsessed with <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming </s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE</s> <s>STEAL RAIN</s> <s>STHEEL REHIN</s> recovering lost relics, mostly because they don't know anything about their history. They have no records dating before the [[Age of Apostasy]]. This led to a meme that they are [[Traitor Legion Loyalists\|loyalist descendants]] of the [[Thousand Sons]], but later, according to fluff, became about as canon as it gets, though some bits doesn't workout.		They have ''waaaaaaaay'' too many psykers and are obsessed with <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming </s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>finding</s> <s>reclaiming</s> <s>stealing</s> <s>MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE</s> <s>STEAL RAIN</s> <s>STHEEL REHIN</s> recovering lost relics, mostly because they don't know anything about their history. They have no records dating before the [[Age of Apostasy]]. This led to a meme that they are [[Traitor Legion Loyalists\|loyalist descendants]] of the [[Thousand Sons]], but later, according to fluff, became about as canon as it gets, though some bits doesn't workout.

	In short: The Blood Ravens are a Space Marine chapter of an unknown founding with an unknown history. They have a heavy focus on Psykers, especially in leadership, and may be [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] of the [[Thousand Sons]]. There is a meme about them supposedly having kleptomania due to many of the character upgrades in Dawn of War 2 being blatantly stolen ("gifted") from other chapters; as a fleet based chapter with little Imperial support, they are known to do heavy battlefield scavenging. In [[Skub\|nu-40k]], they are roughly made up of about half Primaris, and are on the wrong side of the [[Great Rift]].		In short: The Blood Ravens are a Space Marine chapter of an unknown founding with an unknown history. They have a heavy focus on Psykers, especially in leadership, and may be [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] of the [[Thousand Sons]]. There is a meme about them supposedly having kleptomania due to many of the character upgrades in Dawn of War 2 being blatantly <s>stolen</s> ("gifted") from other chapters; as a fleet based chapter with little Imperial support, they are known to do heavy battlefield scavenging. In [[Skub\|nu-40k]], they are roughly made up of about half Primaris, and are on the wrong side of the [[Great Rift]].

	==History==		==History==

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	Of course, will you question the Omnissiah and the Machine Cult when it comes to handling artifacts?		Of course, will you question the Omnissiah and the Machine Cult when it comes to handling artifacts?

	They’ve even started to steal vehicles now. With them “Acquiring” an assortment of [[Nephilim Jetfighter\|Nephilim Fighters]] from ravenwing.		They’ve even started to steal vehicles now. With them “Acquiring” an assortment of [[Nephilim Jetfighter\|Nephilim Fighters]] from ravenwing. Of course, they’re being surprisingly generous with them, considering the second batch they acquired. Is due to br given to the [[Hawk Lords]].

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the fuck up.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|Legend. Apocryphal. You made it up. You made it the fuck up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the ~~****~~ up.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the fuck up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].

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	File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.		File:Forgebreaker.png\|Not even the Primarchs are safe.
	File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.		File:SkarbrandMaul.jpg\|[[Skarbrand\|Skarbrand’s]] weapon is pretty cool too, I guess.
	File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|~~If you steal, might as well do~~ it ~~from~~ the ~~best~~.		File:BTThunderHammer.jpg\|"Legend". "Apocryphal". You made it up. You made it the **** up.
	File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...		File:Ancient Bolter.gif\|Even [[Matthew_Ward\| Matt Ward's]] beloved [[Ultramarines\|Ultrasmurfs]] aren't safe...
	File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].		File:GKArmor.jpg\| And neither are his other beloved [[Grey_Knights\|Special Snowflakes]].