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	Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons. A more realistic interpretation is that the Rogue draws the monster into a Looney Toons gag.		Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons. A more realistic interpretation is that the Rogue draws the monster into a Looney Toons gag.

	It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack if they would hold back to avoid hurting themselves, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for any other reason (say, "make an attack against a different foe later the same round") is a probably a clever munchkin (or a munchkin that co-opted the loophole from somewhere else, like here). This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.		It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. <s>And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack if they would hold back to avoid hurting themselves, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for any other reason (say, "make an attack against a different foe later the same round") is a probably a clever munchkin (or a munchkin that co-opted the loophole from somewhere else, like here). This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.</s> In 4e you receive one opportunity attack per turn, not one opportunity attack per round.

	Judging by how the mechanic actually works, the only "logical" explanation is that the rogue is suddenly manifesting short range mind control powers and forcing every enemy he runs past to spontaneously turn stupid and then attempt to stab themselves, hence: "DURR... CLANG!"		Judging by how the mechanic actually works, the only "logical" explanation is that the rogue is suddenly manifesting short range mind control powers and forcing every enemy he runs past to spontaneously turn stupid and then attempt to stab themselves, hence: "DURR... CLANG!"

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	[[Image:Durrclang.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Bloody Path in all of its glory]][[Image:Rage-c.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Although not specifically mentioned in the description, the ability also causes [[RAGE]] in all creatures with the [[Neckbeard]] subtype.]][[Image:Beholder durrclang.JPG\|thumb\|right\|OM NOM NOM WHAT]]		[[Image:Durrclang.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Bloody Path in all of its glory]][[Image:Rage-c.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Although not specifically mentioned in the description, the ability also causes [[RAGE]] in all creatures with the [[Neckbeard]] subtype.]][[Image:Beholder durrclang.JPG\|thumb\|right\|OM NOM NOM WHAT]]
	'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.		'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.

2601:283:C102:6E61:708B:8F89:D525:D2EE at 23:49, 16 May 2017

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	'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.		'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.

	Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons.		Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons. A more realistic interpretation is that the Rogue draws the monster into a Looney Toons gag.

	It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack if they would hold back to avoid hurting themselves, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for any other reason (say, "make an attack against a different foe later the same round") is a probably a clever munchkin (or a munchkin that co-opted the loophole from somewhere else, like here). This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.		It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack if they would hold back to avoid hurting themselves, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for any other reason (say, "make an attack against a different foe later the same round") is a probably a clever munchkin (or a munchkin that co-opted the loophole from somewhere else, like here). This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.

2602:306:32EB:400:29B0:7CA5:F22D:BF09: No. Snakes are not Scrooge McDuck's money pile, they don't just swim through each other

2017-02-19T22:10:01Z

No. Snakes are not Scrooge McDuck's money pile, they don't just swim through each other

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	* Wraith - Wraith: Shadow Touch: double wraithlike now?		* Wraith - Wraith: Shadow Touch: double wraithlike now?
	* Wraith - Mad Wraith: Touch of Madness: double insanity?		* Wraith - Mad Wraith: Touch of Madness: double insanity?
	* Yuan-Ti - Anathema: Slam: wouldn't a heap of snakes on a heap of snakes just slide through each other?

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1d4chan>Emerald Claw: some of these can happen in at least contrived conditions maybe I'll improve it later.

2016-09-19T05:25:41Z

some of these can happen in at least contrived conditions maybe I'll improve it later.

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	A proposed alteration to make the ability make slightly more sense is to negate the opportunity attack of the targets and allow the rogue to make his own attack as he passes.		A proposed alteration to make the ability make slightly more sense is to negate the opportunity attack of the targets and allow the rogue to make his own attack as he passes.

	In the spirit of autism, here's a list of 4E monster attacks that make no sense with Bloody Path:		In the spirit of autism, here's a list of 4E monster attacks that make little to no sense with Bloody Path:

	* Any basic attack that 'marks' the target		* Any basic attack that 'marks' the target

1d4chan>Emerald Claw: only to avoiding harming itself. Unless there is an errata Im missing.

2016-09-19T05:19:39Z

only to avoiding harming itself. Unless there is an errata Im missing.

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	Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons.		Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons.

	It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for ~~whatever~~ reason ~~until~~ later in the round is ~~SOL~~. This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.		It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack if they would hold back to avoid hurting themselves, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for any other reason (say, "make an attack against a different foe later the same round") is a probably a clever munchkin (or a munchkin that co-opted the loophole from somewhere else, like here). This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.

	Judging by how the mechanic actually works, the only "logical" explanation is that the rogue is suddenly manifesting short range mind control powers and forcing every enemy he runs past to spontaneously turn stupid and then attempt to stab themselves, hence: "DURR... CLANG!"		Judging by how the mechanic actually works, the only "logical" explanation is that the rogue is suddenly manifesting short range mind control powers and forcing every enemy he runs past to spontaneously turn stupid and then attempt to stab themselves, hence: "DURR... CLANG!"

1d4chan>Emerald Claw at 05:09, 19 September 2016

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	'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.		'''Bloody Path''', or as it is popularly known, '''[[Derp\|DURR]]... [[CLANG!]]''' is a 15th level [[Rogue]] power in [[4e]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. It has drawn a lot of criticism because of the odd way the mechanic works and the very undescriptive fluff, making it extremely unclear how exactly the character is meant to be causing the effects described by the ability. The power effectively forces every enemy the rogue runs past during his movement to make a basic melee attack against itself.

	Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a ~~[[Beholder]] making a bite attack against~~ itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons.		Ignoring situations where this is physically impossible (such as a triceratops impaling itself), many argue that the targets of the ability are in fact attempting to attack the rogue, but the rogue is cunningly parrying and otherwise redirecting their attacks as he travels so they instead strike themselves. Others argue that this makes just as little sense as the original fluff, since enemies with better attack bonuses (who could hence be assumed to be more skilled in combat) are actually more likely to hit themselves. It also raises the question as to how exactly a human-sized (or even smaller) character is capable of parrying or redirecting the attacks of creatures much larger than they are, such as adult dragons.

	It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for whatever reason until later in the round is SOL. This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.		It's supposed to be the Rogue rushing into a group dodging their attacks in a way for the group members to attack each other. Except even that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense for people who are being hit by allies are, in fact, being hit by their own weapons, and that makes even less sense if there's only one person. And on top of all that, the opponents are ''forced'' to make the opportunity attack, meaning any enemy wishing to hold his OA for whatever reason until later in the round is SOL. This also clears the threatened area for any allies wishing to follow the rogue on the same round.

75.119.244.137 at 18:42, 7 August 2016

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	* Any basic attack that 'marks' the target		* Any basic attack that 'marks' the target
			* Any creature which relies on ranged attacks. A humanoid using a sling is forced to punch themselves?
	* Abomination - Atropal: Necrotizing Touch; makes itself double-undead?		* Abomination - Atropal: Necrotizing Touch; makes itself double-undead?
	* Abomination - Phane: Temporal Touch; it's already out-of-phase with time, and it somehow teleports itself away from itself?		* Abomination - Phane: Temporal Touch; it's already out-of-phase with time, and it somehow teleports itself away from itself?
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	* Gorgon - any: Gore: how does an armored stone-bull get in front of itself?		* Gorgon - any: Gore: how does an armored stone-bull get in front of itself?
	* Horse - any: Kick: like Gore, but this time how does a Horse get behind itself?		* Horse - any: Kick: like Gore, but this time how does a Horse get behind itself?
	* Humanoid - any: When wielding a ranged weapon, they're forced to punch themselves using the default unarmed strike.
	* Lamia - Cursed Touch: it drains health from itself to gain its own health?		* Lamia - Cursed Touch: it drains health from itself to gain its own health?
	* Larva Mage - Corrupting Touch: how can you rot what is already rotten?		* Larva Mage - Corrupting Touch: how can you rot what is already rotten?
	* Lich - any: Shadow Ray: its only basic attacks are ranged attacks, so mechanically double-awkward
	* Lich - Lich Vestige: Death's Touch: makes itself double-dead?		* Lich - Lich Vestige: Death's Touch: makes itself double-dead?
	* Nightmare - Hooves: its legs bend backwards somehow?		* Nightmare - Hooves: its legs bend backwards somehow?