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	Capitalism with the emergence of agrarian capitalism and mercantilism in the early Renaissance Italy though it can be argued that the system has existed incipiently on a small scale for centuries in the form of merchant, renting and lending activities and occasionally as small-scale industry with some wage labor. However, the economic foundations of the feudal agricultural system began to shift substantially in 16th-century England as the manorial system had broken down and land began to become concentrated in the hands of fewer landlords with increasingly large estates. Instead of a serf-based system of labor, workers were increasingly employed as part of a broader and expanding money-based economy.		Capitalism with the emergence of agrarian capitalism and mercantilism in the early Renaissance Italy though it can be argued that the system has existed incipiently on a small scale for centuries in the form of merchant, renting and lending activities and occasionally as small-scale industry with some wage labor. However, the economic foundations of the feudal agricultural system began to shift substantially in 16th-century England as the manorial system had broken down and land began to become concentrated in the hands of fewer landlords with increasingly large estates. Instead of a serf-based system of labor (where laborers were toiling the lands of their overlord in exchange for protection), workers were increasingly employed as part of a broader and expanding money-based economy.

	The economic doctrine that developed form this in 16th to the 18th centuries was mercantilism, a kind of beta-version of capitalism. [[Age of Enlightenment\|The Age of Discovery]], was associated with the geographic exploration of foreign lands by merchant traders, especially from England and the Low Countries. Mercantilism was a system of trade for profit, although commodities were still largely produced by non-capitalist methods.		The economic doctrine that developed form this in 16th to the 18th centuries was mercantilism, a kind of beta-version of capitalism. [[Age of Enlightenment\|The Age of Discovery]], was associated with the geographic exploration of foreign lands by merchant traders, especially from England and the Low Countries. Mercantilism was a system of trade for profit, although commodities were still largely produced by non-capitalist methods.

75.141.155.61: /* Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing And Warning Needs */

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Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing And Warning Needs

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	== Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing <s>And Warning</s> Needs ==		== Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing <s>And Warning</s> Needs ==

	Because capitalism is the boring dominant ideology of today, dystopian societies in works enjoyed by /tg/ tend to either be monarchies, [[Imperium of Man\| theocracies]], fascist or [[Tau\| communist]]. However, the extremes of capitalism are explored in works that show what happens when the [[~~Chaos~~\| free market]] is not restrained by some force. These societies will have the wealth accumulated by [[That Guy\| 1% of the population]] who reenact the pre-fall [[Eldar]] by partying and doing other decadent shit while their slaves get scraps despite doing the heavy lifting. While these [[Games Workshop\| evil corporations]] may justify the state of things, that's easy to do from your comfortable position.		Because capitalism is the boring dominant ideology of today, dystopian societies in works enjoyed by /tg/ tend to either be monarchies, [[Imperium of Man\| theocracies]], fascist or [[Tau\| communist]]. However, the extremes of capitalism are explored in works that show what happens when the [[Leagues of Votann\| free market]] is not restrained by some force. These societies will have the wealth accumulated by [[That Guy\| 1% of the population]] who reenact the pre-fall [[Eldar]] by partying and doing other decadent shit while their slaves get scraps despite doing the heavy lifting. While these [[Games Workshop\| evil corporations]] may justify the state of things, that's easy to do from your comfortable position.

	Cyberpunk as a whole is a representation of where capitalism could lead us. Those wanting to create a cyberpunk role-playing scenario will notice that the established works will feature not only the previously mentioned class divide, but a lot of pollution and privately owned mercenary groups or corrupt police murdering the fuck out of dissenters they also spy on with the latest hardware. <s>Oh gee, that sounds like real life, only with fancier toys.</s> {{BLAM}} ''Nothing to see citizen, keep on shopping.''		Cyberpunk as a whole is a representation of where capitalism could lead us. Those wanting to create a cyberpunk role-playing scenario will notice that the established works will feature not only the previously mentioned class divide, but a lot of pollution and privately owned mercenary groups or corrupt police murdering the fuck out of dissenters they also spy on with the latest hardware. <s>Oh gee, that sounds like real life, only with fancier toys.</s> {{BLAM}} ''Nothing to see citizen, keep on shopping.''

1d4chan>Blajbara: /* Issues */

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	Of course, the proven failures of communism do not mean that particular implementations of capitalism, in either the 1860s or today, are without flaws, or that the basic ideas behind socialism/communism are defective in themselves. However, other analyses of these flaws, and solutions for them, have been proposed by people who have adjusted for circumstances that Marx could never have foreseen, were more willing to take a gradualist approach, or believed that Marx didn't go far enough. The most notable is probably Henry George, who identified ''private ownership of land and other natural resources'', rather than private ownership of capital in general, as one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated against humanity, and proposed fixing it with a tax on the unimproved value of land rather than with a global revolution. Needless to say, if the Bolsheviks had read his book ''Progress and Poverty'' instead of ''Das Kapital'', history might have gone very differently. Then again, taxes are a lot less sexy and appealing to <s>philosophy majors</s> (whosoever wrote this has likely never even seen a university; John Rawls, especially his work "A Theory of Justice", is the complete hotness in contemporary political philosophy - and it's ''highly'' socialistic, with a hardcore stance for wealth-redistribution ((It's also been torn a new set of assholes by Martha C. Nussbaum and Amartya Sen, among others)) and disgruntled workers than violent revolution and radical reorganization of society and the Bolsheviks' interpretation of Marxism was considered quite unorthodox to begin with in its own time.		Of course, the proven failures of communism do not mean that particular implementations of capitalism, in either the 1860s or today, are without flaws, or that the basic ideas behind socialism/communism are defective in themselves. However, other analyses of these flaws, and solutions for them, have been proposed by people who have adjusted for circumstances that Marx could never have foreseen, were more willing to take a gradualist approach, or believed that Marx didn't go far enough.
			The most notable is probably Henry George, who identified ''private ownership of land and other natural resources'', rather than private ownership of capital in general, as one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated against humanity, and proposed fixing it with a tax on the unimproved value of land rather than with a global revolution. Needless to say, if the Bolsheviks had read his book ''Progress and Poverty'' instead of ''Das Kapital'', history might have gone very differently. Then again, taxes are a lot less sexy and appealing to <s>philosophy majors</s> (whosoever wrote this has likely never even seen a university; John Rawls, especially his work "A Theory of Justice", is the complete hotness in contemporary political philosophy - and it's ''highly'' socialistic, with a hardcore stance for wealth-redistribution ((It's also been torn a new set of assholes by Martha C. Nussbaum and Amartya Sen, among others)) and disgruntled workers than violent revolution and radical reorganization of society and the Bolsheviks' interpretation of Marxism was considered quite unorthodox to begin with in its own time.

	One major gripe against capitalism is it's Darwinian/meritocratic nature of chasing ever increasing profit and competing with others with the usual outcome being an oligarchy/monopoly with all the rest subsumed or destroyed. This is usually countered with pointing out historical examples of new techs and industries uprooting the old ones along with Fortune 500 top 10 companies on the list being very different every decade, however more often than not these disruptions are subverted by outright buying up the competition or lowering your prices short-term and bankrupting the new rival company AND THEN buying them out for peanuts.		One major gripe against capitalism is it's Darwinian/meritocratic nature of chasing ever increasing profit and competing with others with the usual outcome being an oligarchy/monopoly with all the rest subsumed or destroyed. This is usually countered with pointing out historical examples of new techs and industries uprooting the old ones along with Fortune 500 top 10 companies on the list being very different every decade, however more often than not these disruptions are subverted by outright buying up the competition or lowering your prices short-term and bankrupting the new rival company AND THEN buying them out for peanuts. Also, this can even lead to social-darwinism whereupon the success in a capitalist system is attributed to "fitness" and any attempt to reform the system is labeled as a rebellion of the unfit against the "just natural order" which in turn is made more and more rigid by design to prevent upsetting the status quo.

	Additionally, for all of its lauded efficiency and "economic calculus", capitalism produces enormous amounts of waste and unused products. Just take a look at your local supermarket dumpster, if you can even get past the secured fence they are in (no dumpster-diving freeloaders allowed!). In the recent megacorp-era this has gotten so bad that Amazon, the world's largest shipping and retail company, routinely destroys thousands of unsold items ranging from electronics to books. This is not to mention the sheer irrationalities it encourages when it comes to the environment, polluting and destroying nature for short-term gain and thus proverbially shitting and pissing all over the only house you have while not cleaning any of it since it detracts from the pleasure of (increasing) eating and drinking. It doesn't help that capitalism is based around the prospect of infinite growth, which only works in a scenario where you have equally infinite resources (which was ''never'' the case and is becoming increasingly less so due to said wastefulness)- as soon as there's nowhere left for it to grow, it's going to collapse under its own weight.		Additionally, for all of its lauded efficiency and "economic calculus", capitalism produces enormous amounts of waste and unused products. Just take a look at your local supermarket dumpster, if you can even get past the secured fence they are in (no dumpster-diving freeloaders allowed!). In the recent megacorp-era this has gotten so bad that Amazon, the world's largest shipping and retail company, routinely destroys thousands of unsold items ranging from electronics to books. This is not to mention the sheer irrationalities it encourages when it comes to the environment, polluting and destroying nature for short-term gain and thus proverbially shitting and pissing all over the only house you have while not cleaning any of it since it detracts from the pleasure of (increasing) eating and drinking. It doesn't help that capitalism is based around the prospect of infinite growth, which only works in a scenario where you have equally infinite resources (which was ''never'' the case and is becoming increasingly less so due to said wastefulness)- as soon as there's nowhere left for it to grow, it's going to collapse under its own weight.

			Furthermore, Capitalism has a troubling tendency of interfering with the democratic process and tends to seep into public domain sphere. Lobby groups and political kickbacks if not outright bribery see unelected corporate officials influence the workings of the country to benefit themselves, often at the expense of the general population. Privatization of education, healthcare, law enforcement and prison system can often lead to decline in quality as profit takes over quality as the main motivator.

			Oh and the whole "meritocracy" aspect falls flat immediately with the second generation inheriting their parents' wealth and thus getting an inordinate head-start in life regardless of how well they were raised or how motivated they may be personally. Also, as families such as Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Windsors show, capitalism can create long-lasting pseudo-noble dynasties just as any other economic system based on wealth accumulation. More hilariously, the wealthiest families of Florence (Italy) remained wealthy over the period of 600+ years, being unaffected by political, sanitary and technological turmoils. Such families also tend to rear their children with 0 tolerance for nonsense or wastefulness so the families rarely if ever loose much of their wealth while continually multiplying it.

	Lastly, a worrying feature of what our colleagues on [[communism\|the other side]] call "Late Stage Capitalism" is commodification - transformation of as many segments of society into objects of trade or commodities, examples of which are goods, services, ideas, nature, personal information, interpersonal relations, people or animals. This opens up virtually all spheres of our existence to purely economic modes of comprehension which as detailed above can cause huge problems. For example, if humans are just another commodity, why not bring back slavery for those who are willing to sell themselves into it? And if such things as prostitution, Dubai or sweatshops came to your mind - ring-a-ding, you are paying attention.		Lastly, a worrying feature of what our colleagues on [[communism\|the other side]] call "Late Stage Capitalism" is commodification - transformation of as many segments of society into objects of trade or commodities, examples of which are goods, services, ideas, nature, personal information, interpersonal relations, people or animals. This opens up virtually all spheres of our existence to purely economic modes of comprehension which as detailed above can cause huge problems. For example, if humans are just another commodity, why not bring back slavery for those who are willing to sell themselves into it? And if such things as prostitution, Dubai or sweatshops came to your mind - ring-a-ding, you are paying attention.

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	Lastly, a worrying feature of what our colleagues on [[communism\|the other side]] call "Late Stage Capitalism" is commodification - transformation of as many segments of society into objects of trade or commodities, examples of which are goods, services, ideas, nature, personal information, interpersonal relations, people or animals. This opens up virtually all spheres of our existence to purely economic modes of comprehension which as detailed above can cause huge problems. For example, if humans are just another commodity, why not bring back slavery for those who are willing to sell themselves into it? And if such things as prostitution, Dubai or sweatshops came to your mind - ring-a-ding, you are paying attention.		Lastly, a worrying feature of what our colleagues on [[communism\|the other side]] call "Late Stage Capitalism" is commodification - transformation of as many segments of society into objects of trade or commodities, examples of which are goods, services, ideas, nature, personal information, interpersonal relations, people or animals. This opens up virtually all spheres of our existence to purely economic modes of comprehension which as detailed above can cause huge problems. For example, if humans are just another commodity, why not bring back slavery for those who are willing to sell themselves into it? And if such things as prostitution, Dubai or sweatshops came to your mind - ring-a-ding, you are paying attention.

	Moreover, the overtaking of the social sphere by the capitalist mode of thought causes a side-effect called "Capitalist Realism" which is the idea that neoliberal free-market capitalism is the best and only socio-economic model of human society to be viable, which is demonstratively false as we went through at least three prior systems (primitive communism, agrarian slave economy, and feudalism). This prevents us from even thinking about some other system though granted, new modes of economic production were often result of social and technological evolution and not deliberate planning so leaving capitalism to run its course may be a viable option...but given that there's an alarmingly high chance said course might lead to the irreversible destruction of the planet's ability to support anything that could be called "civilization", is that really a risk worth taking?		Moreover, the overtaking of the social sphere by the capitalist mode of thought causes a side-effect called "Capitalist Realism" which is the idea that neoliberal free-market capitalism is the best and only socio-economic model of human society to be viable, which is demonstratively false as we went through at least three prior systems (primitive communism, agrarian slave economy, and feudalism). This prevents us from even thinking about some other system though granted, new modes of economic production were often result of social and technological evolution and not deliberate planning so leaving capitalism to run its course may be a viable option...but given that there's an alarmingly high chance that said course might lead to the irreversible destruction of the planet's ability to support anything that could be called "civilization", is that really a risk worth taking?

	== Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing <s>And Warning</s> Needs ==		== Grim Dark Capitalism For All Your Role-Playing <s>And Warning</s> Needs ==

1d4chan>Newerfag: Way too early to say anything about them.

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Way too early to say anything about them.

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	* Kharadron Overlords		* Kharadron Overlords
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2601:188:C300:64B8:65F6:6D44:6AD8:E953: /* Capitalist-inspired Games, Factions and Settings */

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Capitalist-inspired Games, Factions and Settings

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1d4chan>Flufflion: /* Overview */

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Overview

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	After [[The World Wars]] the process of globalization carried capitalism across the world and after capitalism overcame the challenge set by the alternate [[Communism\|centrally-planned economies]] it became the encompassing system worldwide, with the mixed economy as its dominant form in the industrialized Western world and elsewhere.		After [[The World Wars]] the process of globalization carried capitalism across the world and after capitalism overcame the challenge set by the alternate [[Communism\|centrally-planned economies]] it became the encompassing system worldwide, with the mixed economy as its dominant form in the industrialized Western world and elsewhere.

	The concept of Capitalism has had an impact on [[/tg/]] like many political systems have, as they are perfect to create races/settings/empires from. Many [[human]] and other civilised nations in other settings use capitalist trade and economic ideas in their settings, and often national relations between races depend on existing trade agreements (busty elf maidens need to get paid somehow!). It also helps that concepts of capitalism are the reason we have the internet to view and write all this today. Short version; the internet was first invented as a communication system for the U.S military, then shared with the public when its commercial potential was realized and soon went global from there.		The concept of Capitalism has had an impact on [[/tg/]] like many political systems have, as they are perfect to create races/settings/empires from. Many [[human]] and other civilised nations in other settings use capitalist trade and economic ideas in their settings, and often national relations between races depend on existing trade agreements (busty elf maidens need to get paid somehow!).

			It also helps that concepts of capitalism are the reason we have the internet to view and write all this today. Short version; the internet was first invented as a communication system for the U.S military, then shared with the public when its commercial potential was realized and soon went global from there. Capitalism also led to several of the technological advancements that gave society increasingly advanced computers and smartphones (which you're most likely using to read this right now).

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1d4chan>Flufflion: /* Overview */

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Overview

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	After [[The World Wars]] the process of globalization carried capitalism across the world and after capitalism overcame the challenge set by the alternate [[Communism\|centrally-planned economies]] it became the encompassing system worldwide, with the mixed economy as its dominant form in the industrialized Western world and elsewhere.		After [[The World Wars]] the process of globalization carried capitalism across the world and after capitalism overcame the challenge set by the alternate [[Communism\|centrally-planned economies]] it became the encompassing system worldwide, with the mixed economy as its dominant form in the industrialized Western world and elsewhere.

	The concept of Capitalism has had an impact on [[/tg/]] like many political systems have, as they are perfect to create races/settings/empires from. Many [[human]] and other civilised nations in other settings use capitalist trade and economic ideas in their settings, and often national relations between races depend on existing trade agreements (busty elf maidens need to get paid somehow!).		The concept of Capitalism has had an impact on [[/tg/]] like many political systems have, as they are perfect to create races/settings/empires from. Many [[human]] and other civilised nations in other settings use capitalist trade and economic ideas in their settings, and often national relations between races depend on existing trade agreements (busty elf maidens need to get paid somehow!). It also helps that concepts of capitalism are the reason we have the internet to view and write all this today. Short version; the internet was first invented as a communication system for the U.S military, then shared with the public when its commercial potential was realized and soon went global from there.

	== Issues ==		== Issues ==