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	Double irony, the Codex states that if a Marine suspects that one of his brothers has fallen to Chaos, he should go to the Company's Chaplain and Librarian, whose duty it is to monitor for, and punish, these things within the Chapter. In other words, Leandros violated the Codex and circumvented the chain of command while claiming he's following it. [[Derp\|In real life, soldiers are demoted or outright court martialed and dishonourably discharged from the armed forces for doing that]]! Titus' punishment was demotion to Lieutenant for breaking protocol, so we can assume Leandros has been knocked down to the reserves or sentenced to undertake a one-man Penitent Crusade by Space Marine 2. Maybe even exiled from the Ultramarines and forced to become a Black Shield.		Double irony, the Codex states that if a Marine suspects that one of his brothers has fallen to Chaos, he should go to the Company's Chaplain and Librarian, whose duty it is to monitor for, and punish, these things within the Chapter. In other words, Leandros violated the Codex and circumvented the chain of command while claiming he's following it. [[Derp\|In real life, soldiers are demoted or outright court martialed and dishonourably discharged from the armed forces for doing that]]! Titus' punishment was demotion to Lieutenant for breaking protocol, so we can assume Leandros has been knocked down to the reserves or sentenced to undertake a one-man Penitent Crusade by Space Marine 2. Maybe even exiled from the Ultramarines and forced to become a Black Shield.

	==Space Marine II==		==[[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II]]==
			[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant, wait where’s his backpack?]]
			[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]
			Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal, or more likely the Inquisitor had no intention of keeping an obviously pure Marine and just went through the motions. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.

	==Relationships with characters==		==Relationships with characters==
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	“Sadly, THQ was already starting to fall apart by then and it became clear that Space Marine 2 wasn't going to happen. I was pretty heartbroken about that,” he said. “But that's the way the business works. In the end I'm glad things turned out the way they did, because I think if the end hadn't been so hard, I might not have sought out a better way. And Hinterland might not have ever happened.”		“Sadly, THQ was already starting to fall apart by then and it became clear that Space Marine 2 wasn't going to happen. I was pretty heartbroken about that,” he said. “But that's the way the business works. In the end I'm glad things turned out the way they did, because I think if the end hadn't been so hard, I might not have sought out a better way. And Hinterland might not have ever happened.”

	~~===[[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II]]===~~
	~~[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant, wait where’s his backpack?]]~~
	~~[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]~~
	Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal, or more likely the Inquisitor had no intention of keeping an obviously pure Marine and just went through the motions. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.

	==Subject of Canon==		==Subject of Canon==

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	While his immediate fate after the first game is unknown, the trailer for Space Marine 2 confirms he's alive, has crossed the [[Primaris Space Marines\|Rubicon Primaris]], and is kicking ass again. He appears to have spent a formative amount of time with the [[Black Templars]], seeing how he has his chainsword chained to his wrist and is ripping the heads off of tyranid warriors.		While his immediate fate after the first game is unknown, the trailer for Space Marine 2 confirms he's alive, has crossed the [[Primaris Space Marines\|Rubicon Primaris]], and is kicking ass again. He appears to have spent a formative amount of time with the [[Black Templars]], seeing how he has his chainsword chained to his wrist and is ripping the heads off of tyranid warriors.

	==~~Graia~~==		==Space Marine I==
	When Forgeworld Graia was invaded by Warboss [[Grimskull]] and his [[Ork]] WAAAAGHH!!!, the Imperium, rather annoyed by this, in particular because of fear of losing some Warlord-class [[Titans 40k\|Titans]], responded by sending the Ultramarines Second Company, led by Captain Titus. Titus, along with fellow Ultramarines Brother Leandros and Veteran Sergeant Sidonus, proceeded to aid the remaining Imperial Guardsmen, led by Second Lieutenant Miranda 'Mira' Nero.		When Forgeworld Graia was invaded by Warboss [[Grimskull]] and his [[Ork]] WAAAAGHH!!!, the Imperium, rather annoyed by this, in particular because of fear of losing some Warlord-class [[Titans 40k\|Titans]], responded by sending the Ultramarines Second Company, led by Captain Titus. Titus, along with fellow Ultramarines Brother Leandros and Veteran Sergeant Sidonus, proceeded to aid the remaining Imperial Guardsmen, led by Second Lieutenant Miranda 'Mira' Nero.

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	Double irony, the Codex states that if a Marine suspects that one of his brothers has fallen to Chaos, he should go to the Company's Chaplain and Librarian, whose duty it is to monitor for, and punish, these things within the Chapter. In other words, Leandros violated the Codex and circumvented the chain of command while claiming he's following it. [[Derp\|In real life, soldiers are demoted or outright court martialed and dishonourably discharged from the armed forces for doing that]]! Titus' punishment was demotion to Lieutenant for breaking protocol, so we can assume Leandros has been knocked down to the reserves or sentenced to undertake a one-man Penitent Crusade by Space Marine 2. Maybe even exiled from the Ultramarines and forced to become a Black Shield.		Double irony, the Codex states that if a Marine suspects that one of his brothers has fallen to Chaos, he should go to the Company's Chaplain and Librarian, whose duty it is to monitor for, and punish, these things within the Chapter. In other words, Leandros violated the Codex and circumvented the chain of command while claiming he's following it. [[Derp\|In real life, soldiers are demoted or outright court martialed and dishonourably discharged from the armed forces for doing that]]! Titus' punishment was demotion to Lieutenant for breaking protocol, so we can assume Leandros has been knocked down to the reserves or sentenced to undertake a one-man Penitent Crusade by Space Marine 2. Maybe even exiled from the Ultramarines and forced to become a Black Shield.

			==Space Marine II==

	==Relationships with characters==		==Relationships with characters==

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	[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant, wait where’s his backpack?]]		[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant, wait where’s his backpack?]]
	[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]		[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]
	Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.		Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal, or more likely the Inquisitor had no intention of keeping an obviously pure Marine and just went through the motions. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.

	== Subject of Canon ==		== Subject of Canon ==

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	=== [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II]] ===		=== [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II]] ===
	[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant]]		[[File:Titus 2021.png\|800px\|thumb\|center\|Titus, now a Primaris Lieutenant, wait where’s his backpack?]]
	[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]		[[File:TitusMini.png\|200px\|thumb\|right\|It took us over a decade, but he finally has a bespoke mini.]]
	Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.		Come December 2021, and a [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine II\|sequel]] under Focus Home Interactive and Saber Interactive has been announced. Trailer shows Captain Titus returning but as a [[Primaris Lieutenant]] and saving a bunch of guardsmen from a horde of Tyranids. We can safely assume that whatever plans Lierop had for him have been scrapped. Judging by Titus' services studs, he is now 400 years old or so. Eagle eyed viewers can also see that he has a small inquisitorial medallion (not a rosette, obvs) on his armour, suggesting that he did them some kind of service after his arrest on Graia as a deal. He has a<s> remake of his [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Sternguard.jpg Sternguard Veteran] rendition</s>n [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/25/lieutenant-titus-storms-into-action-with-a-new-miniature-in-space-marine-the-board-game/ official model now], [[Just As Planned\|though this is technically also yet another Primaris Lieutenant model release.]] This is a clear indication that Geedubs' crippling addiction to Primaris Lieutenant model releases has gotten to the point that they will have a video game sequel made and a board game based on that just for an excuse to continue feeding it.

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Counter Arguments

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	{{topquote\|A true man may flinch away its embrace, if he is stalwart, and he girds his soul with the armour of contempt.\|[[Ravenor\|Gideon Ravenor]]}}		{{topquote\|A true man may flinch away its embrace, if he is stalwart, and he girds his soul with the armour of contempt.\|[[Ravenor\|Gideon Ravenor]]}}

	There's some that get immunity to the effects of the warp. Grey Knights are an example. He might just be a [[Blank]] who managed to avoid getting skullfucked by the [[Black Ships]]. You never see any Librarians willingly hanging around the guy, after all. Then again serving long enough to become a captain means he would have been around psykers long enough for them to have notice he was a blank. So we could just kept it to sheer willpower combine the fact he's emotionally stable means warp stuff wouldn't harm him as much.		There's some that get immunity to the effects of the warp. Grey Knights are an example. He might just be a [[Blank]] who managed to avoid getting skullfucked by the [[Black Ships]]. You never see any Librarians willingly hanging around the guy, after all. Then again serving long enough to become a captain means he would have been around psykers long enough for them to have notice he was a blank. So we could just kept it to sheer willpower combine the fact he's emotionally stable means warp stuff wouldn't harm him as much. He couldn’t be a blank anyway as the power of Space Marines is obviously the result of Warp fuckery as even the most conservative examples of them are dramatically beyond human capability, no matter how dense or big a man’s muscles are.

	It's possible he's a pariah, instead of a blank, since he's shown to be partially affected by the powers of the warp (like when the power source literally backfired in his face and just knocked him out cold when it should very easily have atomised him). Of course, it is important to remember that the Warp is entirely a matter of willpower. The device itself (especially its backlash) had no will. Compare that to the willpower of a Space Marine captain's determination to win. Yeah. So, in that way, he saved himself through sheer badassery. Literally. Which if you think about it fits the game (and canon in general) pretty well.		It's possible he's a pariah, instead of a blank, since he's shown to be partially affected by the powers of the warp (like when the power source literally backfired in his face and just knocked him out cold when it should very easily have atomised him). Of course, it is important to remember that the Warp is entirely a matter of willpower. The device itself (especially its backlash) had no will. Compare that to the willpower of a Space Marine captain's determination to win. Yeah. So, in that way, he saved himself through sheer badassery. Literally. Which if you think about it fits the game (and canon in general) pretty well.

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SERVANT OF KHORNE?!

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	But if he's corrupted this way, then what does that make the Black Templars?		But if he's corrupted this way, then what does that make the Black Templars?

			On the other-hand, due to Khorne also being the god of Martial Honor and survival, it could be that he does indeed have Khorne’s favor simply by being an honorable, humble, visceral warrior. It’s not like the Chaos Gods truly have a “side” no matter what their worshippers think. Same could be said for the Black Templars and any other Chapter specializing in close combat (which Titus also seems to do a huge amount of).

	=== Counter Arguments ===		=== Counter Arguments ===

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Reasons why Titus is such a Badass

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	*Women want him and men want to be him. Yeah baby!		*Women want him and men want to be him. Yeah baby!
	*He was one of the VERY few Ultramarines characters prior to the 8th Edition rework that was multidimensional, not an arrogant ass, and a generally cool guy who cared about protecting others.		*He was one of the VERY few Ultramarines characters prior to the 8th Edition rework that was multidimensional, not an arrogant ass, and a generally cool guy who cared about protecting others.
	*He is one of very few, repeat, '''VERY''' few Ultramarines that <s>actually offs</s> gives the Codex Astartes proportionate importance. He states that the Codex is <s>just a set of rules and guidelines</s> a useful source of tactical and moral guidance, but should not be followed blindly, and how they choose to live by it is what makes them Space Marines.		*He is one of very few, repeat, '''VERY''' few Ultramarines that <s>actually offs</s> gives the Codex Astartes proportionate importance. He states that the Codex is <s>just a set of rules and guidelines</s> a useful source of tactical and moral guidance, but should not be followed blindly, and how they choose to live by it is what makes them <s>Space Marines</s> Ultramarines.
	**The irony is that [[Roboute Guilliman]] would love Titus and be pissed with the rest of the Chapter. Now that Robby's back, he'd probably want to talk to Titus, Grandpa Smurf being the kind of guy who reads debriefings to form his own opinion. Guilliman also would be able to see Titus <s>is lacking in the areas of teamwork, leadership and tactics</s> can be too reckless, so as a compromise with the Inquisition, he might reassign Titus to redeem himself in service to the [[Deathwatch]]. He may even be demoted to serve as leader of a [[Kill Team]].		**The irony is that [[Roboute Guilliman]] would love Titus and be pissed with the rest of the Chapter. Now that Robby's back, he'd probably want to talk to Titus, Grandpa Smurf being the kind of guy who reads debriefings to form his own opinion. Guilliman also would be able to see Titus <s>is lacking in the areas of teamwork, leadership and tactics</s> can be too reckless, so as a compromise with the Inquisition, he might reassign Titus to redeem himself in service to the [[Deathwatch]]. He may even be demoted to serve as leader of a [[Kill Team]].
	**His interpretation of the Codex Astartes falls closer to that of the [[Raptors (Chapter)]], although the way that it is implemented relies on his own badassery.		**His interpretation of the Codex Astartes falls closer to that of the [[Raptors (Chapter)]], although the way that it is implemented relies on his own badassery.
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	**If he does become a Chapter Master, he will probably smack sense back into the rest of the Adeptus Astartes and, from there, the rest of the Imperium. Then mankind will steamroll the rest of the galaxy.		**If he does become a Chapter Master, he will probably smack sense back into the rest of the Adeptus Astartes and, from there, the rest of the Imperium. Then mankind will steamroll the rest of the galaxy.
	*Because the developers knew their audience, he's not a meaty slab of walking tank able to take any assault and come out unscathed, and on any difficulty above normal the game is genuinely challenging and requires [[Reasonable Marines\|more strategy]] than simply wading in and killing everything. This is awesome for two reasons. The first is that it does the enemies of the Imperium full justice instead of just making them easily destroyable blood-juice-boxes, e.g. a large enough group of Bloodletters is easily capable of overpowering you if you don't fight them in the right way. The second is that enemies that require you to ''think'' to take down are about ten times more satisfying to fight. Not to mention you're reminded that these enemies you have to actually work to defeat are fought by the Imperial Guard, too. Balls of adamantium the size of universes.		*Because the developers knew their audience, he's not a meaty slab of walking tank able to take any assault and come out unscathed, and on any difficulty above normal the game is genuinely challenging and requires [[Reasonable Marines\|more strategy]] than simply wading in and killing everything. This is awesome for two reasons. The first is that it does the enemies of the Imperium full justice instead of just making them easily destroyable blood-juice-boxes, e.g. a large enough group of Bloodletters is easily capable of overpowering you if you don't fight them in the right way. The second is that enemies that require you to ''think'' to take down are about ten times more satisfying to fight. Not to mention you're reminded that these enemies you have to actually work to defeat are fought by the Imperial Guard, too. Balls of adamantium the size of universes.


	== ANGRY MARINE? ==		== ANGRY MARINE? ==