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	Also known as Otherkin: The Glamourbombing. Take a fucking guess why? I'll give you a hint: ''[[Elf#The Ugly Side of Elves\|Motherfucking Elves]].'' '''Changeling: The Dreaming''' takes place in the [[World of Darkness]], so the fluff mentions Mages and you can use Vampires and other emo RPG shit in here. The game teeters on the edge of awful to awesome. It's a really good premise executed poorly: the writers were sort of all over the place as to what they actually wanted the game to be about. Is it a hopeful game of restoring beauty and glamour to the world? Or is it a grimdark game of trying to cope with living in a world where wonder and magic is slowly dying? Maybe both?		Also known as Otherkin: The Glamourbombing. Take a fucking guess why? I'll give you a hint: ''[[Elf#The Ugly Side of Elves\|Motherfucking Elves]].'' '''Changeling: The Dreaming''' takes place in the [[World of Darkness]], so the fluff mentions Mages and you can use Vampires and other emo RPG shit in here. The game teeters on the edge of awful to awesome. It's a really good premise executed poorly: the writers were sort of all over the place as to what they actually wanted the game to be about. Is it a hopeful game of restoring beauty and glamour to the world? Or is it a grimdark game of trying to cope with living in a world where wonder and magic is slowly dying? Maybe both?

	We recently saw the release 20th anniversary book of Changeling, and it turns out to be not as pretentious as Mage 20 was (but it's Changeling, so it's still pretentious) and has a whole bunch of stuff on the game, just like how a 20th anniversary book should be. It easily wins the award for "Most Improved" of the 20th Anniversary games.		We recently saw the release of the 20th anniversary book of Changeling, and it turns out to be not as pretentious as Mage 20 was (but it's Changeling, so it's still pretentious) and has a whole bunch of stuff on the game, just like how a 20th anniversary book should be. It easily wins the award for "Most Improved" of the 20th Anniversary games.

	==Premise==		==Premise==

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	===Menehune===		===Menehune===
	[[File:Menehune.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Left to right, top to bottom: Kokua, Hana, Kahuna, Ali'i.]]		[[File:Menehune.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Left to right, top to bottom: Kokua, Hana, Kahuna, Ali'i.]]
	The Fae of the Hawai'ian islands, named after the spirit-like Menehune of Hawai'ian myth. They are cut off ~~rom~~ the Dreaming to a greater degree than their fellow Changelings, and therefore have come to rely on nature to harvest their Glamour. Because of their distance from the rest of the world the islands and through them the Menehune went largely untouched by the fuckery of the Inquisition and the Order of Reason, until Captain Cook arrived and fucked everything up for natives and Changelings alike. With the baptizing of every Changeling, with the tearing down of each sacred idol, one Menehune died forever. Ironically they only managed to avoid dying out thanks to a white Knocker fae teaching them the Changeling Way. The Menehune have four Kiths, who have very little physical distinction between them. Instaed, they can be distinguished by how they dress and what their duty in Menehune society is.		The Fae of the Hawai'ian islands, named after the spirit-like Menehune of Hawai'ian myth. They are cut off from the Dreaming to a greater degree than their fellow Changelings, and therefore have come to rely on nature to harvest their Glamour. Because of their distance from the rest of the world the islands and through them the Menehune went largely untouched by the fuckery of the Inquisition and the Order of Reason, until Captain Cook arrived and fucked everything up for natives and Changelings alike. With the baptizing of every Changeling, with the tearing down of each sacred idol, one Menehune died forever. Ironically they only managed to avoid dying out thanks to a white Knocker fae teaching them the Changeling Way. The Menehune have four Kiths, who have very little physical distinction between them. Instaed, they can be distinguished by how they dress and what their duty in Menehune society is.

	* '''Ali'i''': Defacto leaders that act as walking Mana storages.		* '''Ali'i''': Defacto leaders that act as walking Mana storages.

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	==Premise==		==Premise==
	Long time ago, fae/fairies were common, and shit like shoemaker elves and troll bridges were for real. Then the elves for some reason decided to get the fuck outta dodge (probably because pre-Technocracy [[Mage: The Awakening\|Mage]]s wanted to [[nerf]] magic in the world). So they packed up and left for the moon. Only, those other fae thingies that weren't elves got left behind for not being beautiful enough, so developed some prancing magic to protect themselves from the encroaching disbelief of the supernatural (Many of the mythical creatures were part of consensual reality, and as people realized that maybe there weren't dragons and unicorns, they started dying and/or leaving for [[Magical realm\|Mythic Realms]]). Changelings did exist in the old days as babystealing pricks, only now they went for reincarnating themselves in mortal bodies (buddying up with human souls in the process too).		Long time ago, fae/fairies were common, and shit like shoemaker elves and troll bridges were for real. Then the elves for some reason decided to get the fuck outta dodge (probably because pre-Technocracy [[Mage: The Awakening\|Mage]]s wanted to [[nerf]] magic in the world). So they packed up and left for the moon. Only, those other fae thingies that weren't elves got left behind for not being beautiful enough, so developed some prancing magic to protect themselves from the encroaching disbelief of the supernatural (Many of the mythical creatures were part of consensual reality, and as people realized that maybe there weren't dragons and unicorns, they started dying and/or leaving for [[Magical realm\|Mythic Realms]]). Changelings did exist in the old days as babystealing pricks, only now they went for reincarnating themselves in mortal bodies (buddying up with human souls in the process too).

			So basically... the [[bleaching]], except that wasn't a thing yet, and this is probably where the idea came from.

	Centuries later, the astronomy division of the Technocracy figure "hey, every time we go to the moon, elves fuck our shit up, let's get the sheeple to believe the Moon is just a ball of rock orbiting the Earth, and then their collective faith will make it so, and we can finally build moon bases there." So they organize the Apollo missions, and make sure that everybody's watching when they land and there's no green cheese and no little green men (little green elves, get it?), just a vacuum, dust, and outer-space desert wasteland.		Centuries later, the astronomy division of the Technocracy figure "hey, every time we go to the moon, elves fuck our shit up, let's get the sheeple to believe the Moon is just a ball of rock orbiting the Earth, and then their collective faith will make it so, and we can finally build moon bases there." So they organize the Apollo missions, and make sure that everybody's watching when they land and there's no green cheese and no little green men (little green elves, get it?), just a vacuum, dust, and outer-space desert wasteland.

1d4chan>SpectralTime: /* Shortcomings of Changeling */

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Shortcomings of Changeling

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	[[Image:Deathangel.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Art in the books can get rather WTF.]]		[[Image:Deathangel.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Art in the books can get rather WTF.]]
	*Loads of splats. ''Way'' too many.		*Loads of splats. ''Way'' too many.
	*The writers can't tell if it's a game about bringing back cheer to a dreary world or about losing innocence and happiness when you grow up. Keep in mind that it shares the setting with games like [[Wraith: The Oblivion]] and [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]] and said setting is called '''World Of Darkness'''. As our hatefuckbuddies over at [[TVTropes]] succinctly put it: "Those who were looking for something [[Grimdark\|along the lines of the rest of the World of Darkness]] found something covered in glitter; those who wanted [[Noblebright\|something cheerier]] found the glitter flaked off easily."		*The big one: ''profound'' identity crisis. The writers can't tell if it's a game about bringing back cheer to a dreary world or about losing innocence and happiness when you grow up. Keep in mind that it shares the setting with games like [[Wraith: The Oblivion]] and [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]] and said setting is called '''World Of Darkness'''. As our hatefuckbuddies over at [[TVTropes]] succinctly put it: "Those who were looking for something [[Grimdark\|along the lines of the rest of the World of Darkness]] found something covered in glitter; those who wanted [[Noblebright\|something cheerier]] found the glitter flaked off easily."
	*Aside from the occasional cute stuff that is contrasted with creepy mirrors of said art, the majority of the books are fairly consistent as far as art goes, showing things that wouldn't be too out of place in [[D&D]] or [[Shadowrun]].		*Aside from the occasional cute stuff that is contrasted with creepy mirrors of said art, the majority of the books are fairly consistent as far as art goes, showing things that wouldn't be too out of place in [[D&D]] or [[Shadowrun]].
	*Inconsistent Writing. This was clearest in the absolute inconsistency on what "Banality" was; seemingly, no two writers could agree on what produced it.		*Inconsistent Writing. This was clearest in the absolute inconsistency on what "Banality" was; seemingly, no two writers could agree on what produced it.

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	* '''Aithu''': Evil Eshu. While the Eshu tend towards the adventuring and treasure-hunting sides of "1001 Nights," tales, the Aithu tend to be the ones filling the "Evil Vizier" archetype. They can tell stories for the sake of hypnotizing their foes/making them more suggestible to their own nefarious plots, and they have the ability to change appearance to look like either a young suitor or an old crone/man. The Aithu main weakness is that ironically, if you can trick them into listening to a story, the Aithu remains entranced, and grants a token at the end of the story, which can be used for a one-time favor. Basically, the Aithu are a mashup of the Sultan Schezerade enthralled, Jafar from Disney's Aladdin, and street con-games. Think [[Ravnos]] stereotypes and you're not far off.		* '''Aithu''': Evil Eshu. While the Eshu tend towards the adventuring and treasure-hunting sides of "1001 Nights," tales, the Aithu tend to be the ones filling the "Evil Vizier" archetype. They can tell stories for the sake of hypnotizing their foes/making them more suggestible to their own nefarious plots, and they have the ability to change appearance to look like either a young suitor or an old crone/man. The Aithu main weakness is that ironically, if you can trick them into listening to a story, the Aithu remains entranced, and grants a token at the end of the story, which can be used for a one-time favor. Basically, the Aithu are a mashup of the Sultan Schezerade enthralled, Jafar from Disney's Aladdin, and street con-games. Think [[Ravnos]] stereotypes and you're not far off.
	* '''Beasties''': Evil Pooka. Where Pookas can turn into an animal that falls under nature (be it an aardvark or zebra), Beasties turn into a monster form. [[Fail\|Sadly, the rules don't give any mechanical bonuses for this]]. The Mists shield them from witnesses remembering them in this form, and they must attempt to transform once a month.		* '''Beasties''': Evil Pooka. Where Pookas can turn into an animal that falls under nature (be it an aardvark or zebra), Beasties turn into a monster form. [[Fail\|Sadly, the rules don't give any mechanical bonuses for this]]. The Mists shield them from witnesses remembering them in this form, and they must attempt to transform once a month.
	* '''Bodachs''': Evil Clurichauns. Bodachs, ~~rathet~~ than being experts at finding hiding spots or starting fights, are experts at entering places due to their boneless bodies being able to contort through tight spaces, and at being able to find what their victims fear most. Bodachs have less health, since they're spineless gits, and a [[cat]] can scare them off easily.		* '''Bodachs''': Evil Clurichauns. Bodachs, rather than being experts at finding hiding spots or starting fights, are experts at entering places due to their boneless bodies being able to contort through tight spaces, and at being able to find what their victims fear most. Bodachs have less health, since they're spineless gits, and a [[cat]] can scare them off easily.
	* '''Boggarts''': Evil Boggans. While Boggans embody clean honest "salt-of-the-earth" labor (or being an enterprising craftsman making a name), Boggarts represent the fears of shady subcontracting, job outsourcing, union corruption, and making a sale over delivering quality. Boggarts are able to build things faster like Boggans, though with more corner-cutting, but the real difference is that instead of knowing the local social/political landscape, Boggans know how to find and look after each other. Rather than helping the needy, they help themselves, and Boggarts have difficulty with corruption, bribes and kleptomania.		* '''Boggarts''': Evil Boggans. While Boggans embody clean honest "salt-of-the-earth" labor (or being an enterprising craftsman making a name), Boggarts represent the fears of shady subcontracting, job outsourcing, union corruption, and making a sale over delivering quality. Boggarts are able to build things faster like Boggans, though with more corner-cutting, but the real difference is that instead of knowing the local social/political landscape, Boggans know how to find and look after each other. Rather than helping the needy, they help themselves, and Boggarts have difficulty with corruption, bribes and kleptomania.
	* '''Bogies''': Evil Sluagh. Gross street people. If the Sluagh represent the glamorous, elegant, spooktacular potential of darkness and mystery, then the Bogies represent the all-too-human reality of the macabre: disease, disfigurement, aging, death... these are what you actually find in dark alleys.		* '''Bogies''': Evil Sluagh. Gross street people. If the Sluagh represent the glamorous, elegant, spooktacular potential of darkness and mystery, then the Bogies represent the all-too-human reality of the macabre: disease, disfigurement, aging, death... these are what you actually find in dark alleys.

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	===The Courts===		===The Courts===
	There are good elves (Seelie, or Summer), and bad elves (Unseelie, or Winter). The Unseelie elves aren't really so bad, just ruthless. It's kinda like Democrats and Republicans -- really the same thing, but call one of them the other and they'll punch your lights out. Then there's the REALLY bad elves, the Shadow Court, which is a secret conspiracy to... I dunno, since all they can really do is beat each other up and maybe make nightmares for the Mundanes, or harass Werewolves and Mages until one of those powerhouses decide to really bitchslap the sparkly little ~~faggots~~. The Shadow Court are not your friends.		There are good elves (Seelie, or Summer), and bad elves (Unseelie, or Winter). The Unseelie elves aren't really so bad, just ruthless. It's kinda like Democrats and Republicans -- really the same thing, but call one of them the other and they'll punch your lights out. Then there's the REALLY bad elves, the Shadow Court, which is a secret conspiracy to... I dunno, since all they can really do is beat each other up and maybe make nightmares for the Mundanes, or harass Werewolves and Mages until one of those powerhouses decide to really bitchslap the sparkly little pricks. The Shadow Court are not your friends.
	====Seelie Court====		====Seelie Court====
	====Unseelie Court====		====Unseelie Court====

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	*Loads of splats. ''Way'' too many.		*Loads of splats. ''Way'' too many.
	*The writers can't tell if it's a game about bringing back cheer to a dreary world or about losing innocence and happiness when you grow up. Keep in mind that it shares the setting with games like [[Wraith: The Oblivion]] and [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]] and said setting is called '''World Of Darkness'''. As our hatefuckbuddies over at [[TVTropes]] succinctly put it: "Those who were looking for something [[Grimdark\|along the lines of the rest of the World of Darkness]] found something covered in glitter; those who wanted [[Noblebright\|something cheerier]] found the glitter flaked off easily."		*The writers can't tell if it's a game about bringing back cheer to a dreary world or about losing innocence and happiness when you grow up. Keep in mind that it shares the setting with games like [[Wraith: The Oblivion]] and [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]] and said setting is called '''World Of Darkness'''. As our hatefuckbuddies over at [[TVTropes]] succinctly put it: "Those who were looking for something [[Grimdark\|along the lines of the rest of the World of Darkness]] found something covered in glitter; those who wanted [[Noblebright\|something cheerier]] found the glitter flaked off easily."
	*Aside from the occasional cute stuff that is contrasted with creepy mirrors of said art, the majority of the books are fairly consistent as far as art goes, showing things that wouldn't be too out of place in [[D&D]] or [[Shadowrun]] ~~art~~.		*Aside from the occasional cute stuff that is contrasted with creepy mirrors of said art, the majority of the books are fairly consistent as far as art goes, showing things that wouldn't be too out of place in [[D&D]] or [[Shadowrun]].
	*Inconsistent Writing. This was clearest in the absolute inconsistency on what "Banality" was; seemingly, no two writers could agree on what produced it.		*Inconsistent Writing. This was clearest in the absolute inconsistency on what "Banality" was; seemingly, no two writers could agree on what produced it.

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	Also known as Otherkin: The Glamourbombing. Take a fucking guess why? I'll give you a hint: ''[[Elf#The Ugly Side of Elves\|Motherfucking Elves]].'' '''Changeling: The Dreaming''' takes place in the [[World of Darkness]], so the fluff mentions Mages and you can use Vampires and other emo RPG shit in here. The game teeters on the edge of awful to awesome. It's a really good premise executed poorly: the writers were sort of all over the place as to what they actually wanted the game to be about. Is it a hopeful game of restoring beauty and glamour to the world? Is it a grimdark game of ~~coping~~ living in a world where ~~you see~~ and ~~feel the~~ magic slowly dying? Maybe both?		Also known as Otherkin: The Glamourbombing. Take a fucking guess why? I'll give you a hint: ''[[Elf#The Ugly Side of Elves\|Motherfucking Elves]].'' '''Changeling: The Dreaming''' takes place in the [[World of Darkness]], so the fluff mentions Mages and you can use Vampires and other emo RPG shit in here. The game teeters on the edge of awful to awesome. It's a really good premise executed poorly: the writers were sort of all over the place as to what they actually wanted the game to be about. Is it a hopeful game of restoring beauty and glamour to the world? Or is it a grimdark game of trying to cope with living in a world where wonder and magic is slowly dying? Maybe both?

	We recently saw the release 20th anniversary book of Changeling, and it turns out to be not as pretentious as Mage 20 was (but it's Changeling, so it's still pretentious) and has a whole bunch of stuff on the game, just like how a 20th anniversary book should be. It easily wins the award for "Most Improved" of the 20th Anniversary games.		We recently saw the release 20th anniversary book of Changeling, and it turns out to be not as pretentious as Mage 20 was (but it's Changeling, so it's still pretentious) and has a whole bunch of stuff on the game, just like how a 20th anniversary book should be. It easily wins the award for "Most Improved" of the 20th Anniversary games.