Chaos Heavy Cruiser - Revision history

imported>Administrator: 28 revisions imported

2023-06-20T15:03:02Z

28 revisions imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 15:03, 20 June 2023
(No difference)

imported>Administrator: 1 revision imported

2023-06-18T21:50:06Z

1 revision imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 21:50, 18 June 2023
(No difference)

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:6165:300C:A644:DE8E at 15:07, 9 June 2023

2023-06-09T15:07:41Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:07, 9 June 2023
Line 7:		Line 7:
	Interestingly, heavy cruisers (other than the Acheron) were not inherently flawed designs who mass-defected to Chaos. The Imperium merely stopped using them, so the only ones left in active duty are those that had turned to Chaos or been built by Chaos shipyards. GW only knows what idiot decided a set of very fast ships overflowing with macrobatteries or lances or attack craft was not worth maintaining. Especially since Chaos is infamously terrible at maintaining advanced technology, which means maintaining the ships’ systems was likely not difficult or could have been replaced in ships under construction with simpler, less advanced technologies. Either that or Chaos replaces some of the systems with Daemons, which is obviously not an option for loyalist forces.		Interestingly, heavy cruisers (other than the Acheron) were not inherently flawed designs who mass-defected to Chaos. The Imperium merely stopped using them, so the only ones left in active duty are those that had turned to Chaos or been built by Chaos shipyards. GW only knows what idiot decided a set of very fast ships overflowing with macrobatteries or lances or attack craft was not worth maintaining. Especially since Chaos is infamously terrible at maintaining advanced technology, which means maintaining the ships’ systems was likely not difficult or could have been replaced in ships under construction with simpler, less advanced technologies. Either that or Chaos replaces some of the systems with Daemons, which is obviously not an option for loyalist forces.

	== Heavy Cruiser Classes ==		==Heavy Cruiser Classes==

	=== Basic ===		===Basic===

	==== Hecate ====		====Hecate====

	[[File:HecateClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The master of mixed weapons.]]		[[File:HecateClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The master of mixed weapons.]]
Line 32:		Line 32:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	=== Carrier ===		===Carrier===

	==== Styx ====		====Styx====

	[[File:14406235_f1024.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|I'm still much better than my replacement.]]		[[File:14406235_f1024.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|I'm still much better than my replacement.]]
Line 51:		Line 51:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.2 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.2 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	=== Ordinance-Boat ===		===Ordinance-Boat===

	==== Hades ====		====Hades====

	[[File:BFGAHades.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Near or far you'll die anyway.]]		[[File:BFGAHades.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Near or far you'll die anyway.]]
Line 70:		Line 70:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	=== Lance-Boat ===		===Lance-Boat===

	==== Acheron ====		====Acheron====

	[[File:BFGAAcheron.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Ancient grudges cut deep.]]		[[File:BFGAAcheron.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Ancient grudges cut deep.]]
Line 89:		Line 89:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	==== Hellfire ====		====Hellfire====

	[[File:HellfireClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|When you put so much in Dex, you forgot your vitality.]]		[[File:HellfireClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|When you put so much in Dex, you forgot your vitality.]]
Line 106:		Line 106:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 3.8 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 3.8 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	== In Battlefleet Gothic ==		==In Battlefleet Gothic==

	Heavy Cruisers are a good source of firepower if [[Chaos Battleship\|Battleships]] or [[Chaos Grand Cruiser\|Grand Cruisers]] are unavailable for some reason (like lack of models). Barring the Styx, they're somewhat cheap points-wise, but always keep in mind that they're not any tougher than a regular Cruiser.		Heavy Cruisers are a good source of firepower if [[Chaos Battleship\|Battleships]] or [[Chaos Grand Cruiser\|Grand Cruisers]] are unavailable for some reason (like lack of models). Barring the Styx, they're somewhat cheap points-wise, but always keep in mind that they're not any tougher than a regular Cruiser.
Line 118:		Line 118:
	The roles of the three Heavy Cruisers available are clearly delineated, so it really falls under a player's preference how the ships fill their fleet list.		The roles of the three Heavy Cruisers available are clearly delineated, so it really falls under a player's preference how the ships fill their fleet list.

	[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]		[[Category:Warhammer 40,000]]

	[[Category: Battlefleet Gothic]]		[[Category:Battlefleet Gothic]]

	[[Category: Chaos]]		[[Category:Chaos]]

	[[Category: Fleets of Chaos]]		[[Category:Fleets of Chaos]]

	[[Category: Chaos Space Marines]]		[[Category:Chaos Space Marines]]

	[[Category: Vehicles]]		[[Category:Vehicles]]

	[[Category: Ships]]		[[Category:Ships]]

	{{40k-Chaos-Ships}}		{{40k-Chaos-Ships}}

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:E100:687B:F124:50E7 at 00:26, 30 May 2023

2023-05-30T00:26:20Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:26, 30 May 2023
Line 108:		Line 108:
	== In Battlefleet Gothic ==		== In Battlefleet Gothic ==

	Heavy Cruisers are a good source of firepower if [[Chaos Battleship\|Battleships]] or [[Chaos Grand Cruiser\|Grand Cruisers]] are unavailable for some reason (like lack of models). Barring the Styx, they're somewhat cheap points-wise, but always keep in mind that they're not any tougher than a regular Cruiser.		Heavy Cruisers are a good source of firepower if [[Chaos Battleship\|Battleships]] or [[Chaos Grand Cruiser\|Grand Cruisers]] are unavailable for some reason (like lack of models). Barring the Styx, they're somewhat cheap points-wise, but always keep in mind that they're not any tougher than a regular Cruiser.

	A Heavy Cruiser may be taken for every two Cruisers in a list. Like any other ship on the Chaos list, any one commanded by a [[Chaos Lord]] may select a Mark of Chaos, and gets the option of adding Chaos Space Marine crew for additional cost.		A Heavy Cruiser may be taken for every two Cruisers in a list. Like any other ship on the Chaos list, any one commanded by a [[Chaos Lord]] may select a Mark of Chaos, and gets the option of adding Chaos Space Marine crew for additional cost.

	==In Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 1 & 2==		==In Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 1 & 2==

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:3D6C:5C98:46F7:4F7D at 22:10, 9 March 2023

2023-03-09T22:10:50Z

149.22.6.181 at 07:16, 17 December 2022

2022-12-17T07:16:55Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 07:16, 17 December 2022
Line 5:		Line 5:
	[[Chaos]] has no such bias, and over the millennia ships of this type have made their way into [[Fleets of Chaos\|Traitor fleets]].		[[Chaos]] has no such bias, and over the millennia ships of this type have made their way into [[Fleets of Chaos\|Traitor fleets]].

	Interestingly, heavy cruisers (other than the Acheron) were not inherently flawed designs who mass-defected to Chaos. The Imperium merely stopped using them, so the only ones left in active duty are those that had turned to Chaos or been built by Chaos shipyards. GW only knows what idiot decided a set of very fast ships overflowing with macrobatteries or lances or attack craft was not worth maintaining. Especially since Chaos is infamously terrible at maintaining advanced technology, which means maintaining the ships’ systems was likely not difficult or could have been replaced in ships under construction with simpler, less advanced technologies.		Interestingly, heavy cruisers (other than the Acheron) were not inherently flawed designs who mass-defected to Chaos. The Imperium merely stopped using them, so the only ones left in active duty are those that had turned to Chaos or been built by Chaos shipyards. GW only knows what idiot decided a set of very fast ships overflowing with macrobatteries or lances or attack craft was not worth maintaining. Especially since Chaos is infamously terrible at maintaining advanced technology, which means maintaining the ships’ systems was likely not difficult or could have been replaced in ships under construction with simpler, less advanced technologies. Either that or Chaos replaces some of the systems with Daemons, which is obviously not an option for loyalist forces.

	== Heavy Cruiser Classes ==		== Heavy Cruiser Classes ==

1d4chan>Derpysaurus at 10:29, 2 October 2022

2022-10-02T10:29:44Z

2600:1006:B12B:3E87:B511:DEA1:C26D:42D6: /* Hecate */

2022-09-07T21:29:32Z

Hecate

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:29, 7 September 2022
Line 21:		Line 21:
	By M36, a number of vessels had turned renegade, leading many to fear some inherent design flaw made these ships susceptible to corruption within the Warp. As a response, the Imperial Navy was quick to decommission whatever of the Cruisers remained. Since then, the class is frequently seen in the armadas of Chaos Space Marine fleets and in particular the [[Black Crusade]]s of [[Abaddon the Despoiler]].		By M36, a number of vessels had turned renegade, leading many to fear some inherent design flaw made these ships susceptible to corruption within the Warp. As a response, the Imperial Navy was quick to decommission whatever of the Cruisers remained. Since then, the class is frequently seen in the armadas of Chaos Space Marine fleets and in particular the [[Black Crusade]]s of [[Abaddon the Despoiler]].

	The Hecate finally appeared in BF:A2 when it was released with the Chaos Campaign expansion, the Hecate drops two of the launch bays carried by the Styx to provide a more front line combat carrier type of vessel, with a much better DPS/CPM profile and a nice chunk of savings on points. The Hecate seems to be an alternative carrier for when you want to bring squads but still need the raw firepower to deal with any unexpected surprises that could end up running your squads dry or proving them to be ineffective, even in large numbers (ie: Necrons and their aoe fighter killing ability)		The Hecate finally appeared in BF:A2 when it was released with the Chaos Campaign expansion, the Hecate drops two of the launch bays carried by the Styx to provide a more front line combat carrier type of vessel, with a much better DPS/CPM profile and a nice chunk of savings on points. The Hecate seems to be an alternative carrier for when you want to bring squads but still need the raw firepower to deal with any unexpected surprises that could end up running your squads dry or proving them to be ineffective, even in large numbers (ie: Necrons and their aoe fighter killing ability).

			The Hecate’s weapons and defenses would be good for tearing up a normal cruiser’s shields and breaking its defense turrets. Then some fighters and a lot of bombers could pretty easily wreck havoc on an opponent with fighters distracting and engaging remaining turrets while bombers deal damage. Or use the attack craft before/during the engagement to weaken a target’s offensive capabilities to make them easier prey for the Hecate. Against an opposing attack craft heavy fleet, mixed carriers would probably be better suited using their fighters defensively and their bombers for targets of opportunity already suffering significant damage.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]

174.212.41.73: /* Acheron */

2022-09-07T20:38:39Z

Acheron

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:38, 7 September 2022
Line 78:		Line 78:
	A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.		A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.

	A dedicated [[Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery.		A dedicated [[Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery. It may have been intended to take out or weaken shields while approaching an enemy and then pivot and unleash a storm of lances.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]
Line 86:		Line 86:
	*'''Crew:''' 61,000 crew; approx		*'''Crew:''' 61,000 crew; approx
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	==== Hellfire ====		==== Hellfire ====

1d4chan>HyperionEinherjar: /* Ordnance-Boat */

2021-09-07T15:53:03Z

Ordnance-Boat

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:53, 7 September 2021
Line 49:		Line 49:
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.2 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.2 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	=== ~~Ordnance~~-Boat ===		=== Ordinance-Boat ===

	==== Hades ====		==== Hades ====
Line 67:		Line 67:
	*'''Crew:''' 68,100 crew; approx		*'''Crew:''' 68,100 crew; approx
	*'''Acceleration:''' 5.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 5.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	=== Lance-Boat ===		=== Lance-Boat ===

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:10, 9 March 2023
Line 17:		Line 17:
	The Hecate-Class Heavy Cruiser is the average joe of Heavy Cruisers.		The Hecate-Class Heavy Cruiser is the average joe of Heavy Cruisers.

	Developed in late M33 as a replacement for the Styx Class Heavy Cruiser, it was seen as more well-rounded for fleet engagements and solitary patrols. The ships were being built at Cypra Mundi when newer designs from Mars were deemed more suitable for the Imperial Navy. Most were decommissioned by the Imperium in late M35.		Developed in late M33 as a replacement for the Styx Class Heavy Cruiser, it was seen as more well-rounded for fleet engagements and solitary patrols. The ships were being built at Cypra Mundi when newer designs from Mars were deemed more suitable for the Imperial Navy. Most were decommissioned by the Imperium in late M35.

	By M36, a number of vessels had turned renegade, leading many to fear some inherent design flaw made these ships susceptible to corruption within the Warp. As a response, the Imperial Navy was quick to decommission whatever of the Cruisers remained. Since then, the class is frequently seen in the armadas of Chaos Space Marine fleets and in particular the [[Black Crusade]]s of [[Abaddon the Despoiler]].		By M36, a number of vessels had turned renegade, leading many to fear some inherent design flaw made these ships susceptible to corruption within the Warp. As a response, the Imperial Navy was quick to decommission whatever of the Cruisers remained. Since then, the class is frequently seen in the armadas of Chaos Space Marine fleets and in particular the [[Black Crusade]]s of [[Abaddon the Despoiler]].
Line 23:		Line 23:
	The Hecate finally appeared in BF:A2 when it was released with the Chaos Campaign expansion, the Hecate drops two of the launch bays carried by the Styx to provide a more front line combat carrier type of vessel, with a much better DPS/CPM profile and a nice chunk of savings on points. The Hecate seems to be an alternative carrier for when you want to bring squads but still need the raw firepower to deal with any unexpected surprises that could end up running your squads dry or proving them to be ineffective, even in large numbers (ie: Necrons and their aoe fighter killing ability).		The Hecate finally appeared in BF:A2 when it was released with the Chaos Campaign expansion, the Hecate drops two of the launch bays carried by the Styx to provide a more front line combat carrier type of vessel, with a much better DPS/CPM profile and a nice chunk of savings on points. The Hecate seems to be an alternative carrier for when you want to bring squads but still need the raw firepower to deal with any unexpected surprises that could end up running your squads dry or proving them to be ineffective, even in large numbers (ie: Necrons and their aoe fighter killing ability).

	The Hecate’s weapons and defenses would be good for tearing up a normal cruiser’s shields and breaking its defense turrets. Then some fighters and a lot of bombers could pretty easily wreck havoc on an opponent with fighters distracting and engaging remaining turrets while bombers deal damage. Or use the attack craft before/during the engagement to weaken a target’s offensive capabilities to make them easier prey for the Hecate. Against an opposing attack craft heavy fleet, mixed carriers would probably be better suited using their fighters defensively and their bombers for targets of opportunity already suffering significant damage.		The Hecate’s weapons and defenses would be good for tearing up a normal cruiser’s shields and breaking its defense turrets. Then some fighters and a lot of bombers could pretty easily wreck havoc on an opponent with fighters distracting and engaging remaining turrets while bombers deal damage. Or use the attack craft before/during the engagement to weaken a target’s offensive capabilities to make them easier prey for the Hecate. Against an opposing attack craft heavy fleet, mixed carriers would probably be better suited using their fighters defensively and their bombers for targets of opportunity already suffering significant damage.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]
Line 40:		Line 40:
	A Carrier-type, the '''Styx'''-class was eventually phased out in favor of the [[Mars-class Battlecruiser\|''Mars''-class Battlecruiser]]. Which of course makes no sense as the Mars [[Derp\|carries far fewer attack craft and is generally considered a failed design.]] A versatile design, many Chaos Lords appreciate its ability to provide [[Swiftdeath Fighter\|Fighter]] and [[Doomfire Bomber\|Bomber]] support on top of its long-ranged weapons.		A Carrier-type, the '''Styx'''-class was eventually phased out in favor of the [[Mars-class Battlecruiser\|''Mars''-class Battlecruiser]]. Which of course makes no sense as the Mars [[Derp\|carries far fewer attack craft and is generally considered a failed design.]] A versatile design, many Chaos Lords appreciate its ability to provide [[Swiftdeath Fighter\|Fighter]] and [[Doomfire Bomber\|Bomber]] support on top of its long-ranged weapons.

	The Styx features a pair of Launch Bays, with a long-ranged Weapons Battery and long-ranged dorsal [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] battery. The long-ranged guns means that the ship can keep relatively out of danger while still being able to contribute the firepower of its weapons.		The Styx features a pair of Launch Bays, with a long-ranged Weapons Battery and long-ranged dorsal [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] battery. The long-ranged guns means that the ship can keep relatively out of danger while still being able to contribute the firepower of its weapons.

	More importantly (since the attack craft are the real power of this ship), it can blast the crap out of enemy escorts/raiders that try and make torpedo runs against it long before they get in range without having to re-direct its attack craft to protect itself while also being able to contribute a notable amount of firepower to assist friendly ships engaged with whatever.		More importantly (since the attack craft are the real power of this ship), it can blast the crap out of enemy escorts/raiders that try and make torpedo runs against it long before they get in range without having to re-direct its attack craft to protect itself while also being able to contribute a notable amount of firepower to assist friendly ships engaged with whatever.
Line 76:		Line 76:
	[[File:BFGAAcheron.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Ancient grudges cut deep.]]		[[File:BFGAAcheron.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Ancient grudges cut deep.]]

	The Acheron-Class Heavy Cruiser is a Chaos starship that was built on the [[Cardinal-class Heavy Cruiser\|Cardinal-class heavy cruiser]] hull which, interestingly, is the only keel-built Imperial ship still operating that fans know of.		The Acheron-Class Heavy Cruiser is a Chaos starship that was built on the [[Cardinal-class Heavy Cruiser\|Cardinal-class heavy cruiser]] hull which, interestingly, is the only keel-built Imperial ship still operating that fans know of.

	A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.		A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.

	A dedicated [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery. It may have been intended to take out or weaken shields while approaching an enemy and then pivot and unleash a storm of lances.		A dedicated [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery. It may have been intended to take out or weaken shields while approaching an enemy and then pivot and unleash a storm of lances.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]
Line 114:		Line 114:
	==In Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 1 & 2==		==In Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 1 & 2==

	A slight upgrade over regular Cruisers, Heavy Cruisers feature better weaponry in exchange for a more limited selection of vessels. They're a smidgen more costly than a regular Cruiser as well, so they can't round off points as efficiently.		A slight upgrade over regular Cruisers, Heavy Cruisers feature better weaponry in exchange for a more limited selection of vessels. They're a smidgen more costly than a regular Cruiser as well, so they can't round off points as efficiently.

	The roles of the three Heavy Cruisers available are clearly delineated, so it really falls under a player's preference how the ships fill their fleet list.		The roles of the three Heavy Cruisers available are clearly delineated, so it really falls under a player's preference how the ships fill their fleet list.

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:29, 2 October 2022
Line 25:		Line 25:
	The Hecate’s weapons and defenses would be good for tearing up a normal cruiser’s shields and breaking its defense turrets. Then some fighters and a lot of bombers could pretty easily wreck havoc on an opponent with fighters distracting and engaging remaining turrets while bombers deal damage. Or use the attack craft before/during the engagement to weaken a target’s offensive capabilities to make them easier prey for the Hecate. Against an opposing attack craft heavy fleet, mixed carriers would probably be better suited using their fighters defensively and their bombers for targets of opportunity already suffering significant damage.		The Hecate’s weapons and defenses would be good for tearing up a normal cruiser’s shields and breaking its defense turrets. Then some fighters and a lot of bombers could pretty easily wreck havoc on an opponent with fighters distracting and engaging remaining turrets while bombers deal damage. Or use the attack craft before/during the engagement to weaken a target’s offensive capabilities to make them easier prey for the Hecate. Against an opposing attack craft heavy fleet, mixed carriers would probably be better suited using their fighters defensively and their bombers for targets of opportunity already suffering significant damage.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 2 Heavy [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]], 2 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]

	*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx		*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx
Line 40:		Line 40:
	A Carrier-type, the '''Styx'''-class was eventually phased out in favor of the [[Mars-class Battlecruiser\|''Mars''-class Battlecruiser]]. Which of course makes no sense as the Mars [[Derp\|carries far fewer attack craft and is generally considered a failed design.]] A versatile design, many Chaos Lords appreciate its ability to provide [[Swiftdeath Fighter\|Fighter]] and [[Doomfire Bomber\|Bomber]] support on top of its long-ranged weapons.		A Carrier-type, the '''Styx'''-class was eventually phased out in favor of the [[Mars-class Battlecruiser\|''Mars''-class Battlecruiser]]. Which of course makes no sense as the Mars [[Derp\|carries far fewer attack craft and is generally considered a failed design.]] A versatile design, many Chaos Lords appreciate its ability to provide [[Swiftdeath Fighter\|Fighter]] and [[Doomfire Bomber\|Bomber]] support on top of its long-ranged weapons.

	The Styx features a pair of Launch Bays, with a long-ranged Weapons Battery and long-ranged dorsal [[Lance]] battery. The long-ranged guns means that the ship can keep relatively out of danger while still being able to contribute the firepower of its weapons.		The Styx features a pair of Launch Bays, with a long-ranged Weapons Battery and long-ranged dorsal [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] battery. The long-ranged guns means that the ship can keep relatively out of danger while still being able to contribute the firepower of its weapons.

	More importantly (since the attack craft are the real power of this ship), it can blast the crap out of enemy escorts/raiders that try and make torpedo runs against it long before they get in range without having to re-direct its attack craft to protect itself while also being able to contribute a notable amount of firepower to assist friendly ships engaged with whatever.		More importantly (since the attack craft are the real power of this ship), it can blast the crap out of enemy escorts/raiders that try and make torpedo runs against it long before they get in range without having to re-direct its attack craft to protect itself while also being able to contribute a notable amount of firepower to assist friendly ships engaged with whatever.

	Overall, the profile of the Styx is 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 4 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]		Overall, the profile of the Styx is 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Heavy Macro Turret]], 4 Launch Bays carrying a complement of [[Swiftdeath Fighter]]s, [[Doomfire Bomber]]s, [[Dreadclaw\|Dreadclaw Assault Pod]]s or more rarely, [[Kharybdis Assault Claw]]s, 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Super Heavy Missile Turret.]]

	*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx		*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx
Line 59:		Line 59:
	The Ordinance-boat of the Heavy Cruisers, the '''Hades'''-class is equipped to engage opponents at not-quite brawling range. While it doesn't have the shields or armor to take a sustained firefight with larger ships, it's still more than a match of any Imperial Cruiser.		The Ordinance-boat of the Heavy Cruisers, the '''Hades'''-class is equipped to engage opponents at not-quite brawling range. While it doesn't have the shields or armor to take a sustained firefight with larger ships, it's still more than a match of any Imperial Cruiser.

	The Hades is the mirror of the Acheron, weapons-wise, with mid-ranged [[Macrocannon\|Macro Weapons Battery broadsides]] (despite its lowish shields and armor or its size and so should be long-ranged all around) supplemented by a long-ranged forward-mounted [[Lance]] battery, and dorsal-mounted long-ranged Lance turrets.		The Hades is the mirror of the Acheron, weapons-wise, with mid-ranged [[Macrocannon\|Macro Weapons Battery broadsides]] (despite its lowish shields and armor or its size and so should be long-ranged all around) supplemented by a long-ranged forward-mounted [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] battery, and dorsal-mounted long-ranged Lance turrets.

	In battlefleets, the Hades shines even brighter when leading a group of other long-ranged ships like the [[Murder-class Cruiser\|Murder-]] and [[Carnage-class Cruiser\|Carnage-class cruisers,]] letting them combine their long-range guns into a solid wall of death awaiting any captain dumb enough to try to close the gap.		In battlefleets, the Hades shines even brighter when leading a group of other long-ranged ships like the [[Murder-class Cruiser\|Murder-]] and [[Carnage-class Cruiser\|Carnage-class cruisers,]] letting them combine their long-range guns into a solid wall of death awaiting any captain dumb enough to try to close the gap.

	The Hades is armed with 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Heavy Lance Artillery]], 4 [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]] and 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret.]]		The Hades is armed with 1 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Heavy Lance Artillery]], 4 [[Macrocannon\|Macro Battery Weapons]] and 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret.]]

	*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx		*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx
Line 80:		Line 80:
	A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.		A testbed for experimental and possibly [[Heresy\|xenos-based technologies,]] only one was thought to have been built. Said ship suddenly defected to the side of [[Abaddon]]'s forces during the [[Gothic War]]. Multiple ships of the same type were spotted since that time, which means that there's a [[Dark Mechanicus]] [[Forge World]] somewhere churning them out.

	A dedicated [[Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery. It may have been intended to take out or weaken shields while approaching an enemy and then pivot and unleash a storm of lances.		A dedicated [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]]-boat, the '''Acheron'''-class features long-ranged [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] broadsides, a mid-ranged dorsal Lance battery, and a mid-ranged forward-mounted Weapons battery. It may have been intended to take out or weaken shields while approaching an enemy and then pivot and unleash a storm of lances.

	The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]		The ship is armed with 1 Triple Barrel [[Macrocannon\|Macro Turret]], 4 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Heavy Lance Battery Weapons]], 2 Double-Barrel [[Lance Weapon\|Lance Turret]] and 1 Triple Barrel [[Naval Missile Turret\|Missile Turret.]]

	*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx		*'''Length:''' 5.3-5.4km; approx
Line 93:		Line 93:
	[[File:HellfireClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|When you put so much in Dex, you forgot your vitality.]]		[[File:HellfireClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|When you put so much in Dex, you forgot your vitality.]]

	The Hellfire-Class Heavy Cruiser is a class of Heavy Cruiser that was originally an early attempt by the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] to mount large Weapons Batteries onto a Cruiser-class hull. Initially only fitted with relatively weak [[Lance]]s, after several years of tinkering with the ship's power generators the Mechanicum was able to add further-ranged and more powerful lance batteries. Thus the ships became formidable and were used in planetary sieges and system blockades.		The Hellfire-Class Heavy Cruiser is a class of Heavy Cruiser that was originally an early attempt by the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] to mount large Weapons Batteries onto a Cruiser-class hull. Initially only fitted with relatively weak [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]]s, after several years of tinkering with the ship's power generators the Mechanicum was able to add further-ranged and more powerful lance batteries. Thus the ships became formidable and were used in planetary sieges and system blockades.

	That being said the ships still suffered from multiple issues. Their huge arsenal greatly reduced their speed, something which proved a constant hindrance for smaller and more manoeuvrable ships it fought alongside. Their lack of Void Shield generators (due to most of the ship's power going to its weaponry) also made them easy targets for enemy fire. Additionally, due to the large space required to fit its ammunition and power generators, crew quarters were cramped and under-supplied. All of these weaknesses made the Hellfire ill-suited for long-range patrols unless supported by a flotilla of transports and escorts.		That being said the ships still suffered from multiple issues. Their huge arsenal greatly reduced their speed, something which proved a constant hindrance for smaller and more manoeuvrable ships it fought alongside. Their lack of Void Shield generators (due to most of the ship's power going to its weaponry) also made them easy targets for enemy fire. Additionally, due to the large space required to fit its ammunition and power generators, crew quarters were cramped and under-supplied. All of these weaknesses made the Hellfire ill-suited for long-range patrols unless supported by a flotilla of transports and escorts.