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1d4chan>Piroko: /* Social Class */

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Social Class

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	*'''M'''erchants: Merchants are at the bottom of this hierarchy. The peddlers are USEFUL, but they don't create anything. All they do is buy stuff from one person, move it, and sell it to someone else. In practice the merchants gain prominence and influence above their station by virtue of their wealth, much to the annoyance of the Scholar class and generally in spite of their best efforts to keep them down.		*'''M'''erchants: Merchants are at the bottom of this hierarchy. The peddlers are USEFUL, but they don't create anything. All they do is buy stuff from one person, move it, and sell it to someone else. In practice the merchants gain prominence and influence above their station by virtue of their wealth, much to the annoyance of the Scholar class and generally in spite of their best efforts to keep them down.

	You may have noted the absence of any equivalent to the western knight in this system. That's significant. The Confucians had sort of a dim view of fighting men, so there was never really a martial caste in their system. The rank and file in Imperial China were regular folks who were either conscripted into the army or volunteered. Most Chinese generals of antiquity were lauded as scholars, but revering martial prowess was uncouth, at least on the Asian mainland where Confucianism held sway. Japan had no such pretentions; the Samurai were scholars, and they were fighters, and they saw the two as linked; Samurai functioned much more like knights did in the west, giving their allegiance to support their favored nobles and leading their local peasants in battle ~~should circumstances demand it~~.		You may have noted the absence of any equivalent to the western knight in this system. That's significant. The Confucians had sort of a dim view of fighting men, so there was never really a martial caste in their system. The rank and file in Imperial China were regular folks who were either conscripted into the army or volunteered. Most Chinese generals of antiquity were lauded as scholars, but revering martial prowess was uncouth, at least on the Asian mainland where Confucianism held sway. The best fighters of Chinese antiquity, such as Lu Bu, were remembered as bloodthirty monsters who'd go full Qin Shi Huang if they could. Japan had no such pretentions; the Samurai were scholars, and they were fighters, and they saw the two as linked; Samurai functioned much more like knights did in the west, giving their allegiance to support their favored nobles and leading their local peasants in battle.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

1d4chan>A Walrus at 12:04, 18 November 2022

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	{{topquote\|Yo momma's so classless, she could be a Marxist Utopia}}		{{topquote\|Yo momma's so classless, she could be a Marxist Utopia\|playground joke}}
	A '''class''' is, in the broadest sense a division or category of similar things. A class of ships all have similar designs and roles, a class of students may share an age, achievement level, or graduation date, and so on. In the context of [[role-playing game]]s, there are two definitions of class that are most relevant: ''[[character]] class'', which is a career or set of skills, and ''social class'', which is a character's place in the social hierarchy.		A '''class''' is, in the broadest sense a division or category of similar things. A class of ships all have similar designs and roles, a class of students may share an age, achievement level, or graduation date, and so on. In the context of [[role-playing game]]s, there are two definitions of class that are most relevant: ''[[character]] class'', which is a career or set of skills, and ''social class'', which is a character's place in the social hierarchy.

1d4chan>A Walrus at 12:03, 18 November 2022

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			{{topquote\|Yo momma's so classless, she could be a Marxist Utopia}}
	A '''class''' is, in the broadest sense a division or category of similar things. A class of ships all have similar designs and roles, a class of students may share an age, achievement level, or graduation date, and so on. In the context of [[role-playing game]]s, there are two definitions of class that are most relevant: ''[[character]] class'', which is a career or set of skills, and ''social class'', which is a character's place in the social hierarchy.		A '''class''' is, in the broadest sense a division or category of similar things. A class of ships all have similar designs and roles, a class of students may share an age, achievement level, or graduation date, and so on. In the context of [[role-playing game]]s, there are two definitions of class that are most relevant: ''[[character]] class'', which is a career or set of skills, and ''social class'', which is a character's place in the social hierarchy.

1d4chan>A Walrus at 14:11, 17 November 2022

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	*'''M'''erchants: Merchants are at the bottom of this hierarchy. The peddlers are USEFUL, but they don't create anything. All they do is buy stuff from one person, move it, and sell it to someone else. In practice the merchants gain prominence and influence above their station by virtue of their wealth, much to the annoyance of the Scholar class and generally in spite of their best efforts to keep them down.		*'''M'''erchants: Merchants are at the bottom of this hierarchy. The peddlers are USEFUL, but they don't create anything. All they do is buy stuff from one person, move it, and sell it to someone else. In practice the merchants gain prominence and influence above their station by virtue of their wealth, much to the annoyance of the Scholar class and generally in spite of their best efforts to keep them down.

	You may have noted the absence of any equivalent to the western knight in this system. That's significant. The Confucians had sort of a dim view of fighting men, so there was never really a martial caste in their system. Most Chinese generals of antiquity were lauded as scholars, but revering martial prowess was uncouth, at least on the Asian mainland where Confucianism held sway. Japan had no such pretentions; the Samurai were scholars, and they were fighters, and they saw the two as linked; Samurai functioned much more like knights did in the west, giving their allegiance to support their favored nobles and leading their local peasants in battle should circumstances demand it.		You may have noted the absence of any equivalent to the western knight in this system. That's significant. The Confucians had sort of a dim view of fighting men, so there was never really a martial caste in their system. The rank and file in Imperial China were regular folks who were either conscripted into the army or volunteered. Most Chinese generals of antiquity were lauded as scholars, but revering martial prowess was uncouth, at least on the Asian mainland where Confucianism held sway. Japan had no such pretentions; the Samurai were scholars, and they were fighters, and they saw the two as linked; Samurai functioned much more like knights did in the west, giving their allegiance to support their favored nobles and leading their local peasants in battle should circumstances demand it.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Social Class */

2022-11-17T14:07:07Z

Social Class

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	* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.		* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.
	** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.		** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.
	** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor, earning just enough at the end of the day to avoid starvation. More likely they would be between the two extremes (if closer to the latter than the former).		** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor, earning just enough at the end of the day to avoid starvation. More likely they would be between the two extremes (if closer to the latter than the former). Merchants operate more independently than artisans but to get ahead and stay afloat, you need connections and reputation.
	* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).		* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).
	* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.		* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.

1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Social Class */

2022-11-17T13:55:19Z

Social Class

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	* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.		* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.
	** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.		** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.
	** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor, earning just enough at the end of the day to avoid starvation. ~~Most lie somewhere in~~ between.		** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor, earning just enough at the end of the day to avoid starvation. More likely they would be between the two extremes (if closer to the latter than the former).
	* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).		* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).
	* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.		* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.

1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Social Class */

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Social Class

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	* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.		* Artisans, [[guild]]s, and similar organizations occupy the next layer down. Their members are skilled and respected, but they're not born into noble families, so they don't get to have castles or armies. As roads improve, ship designs get better and cities grow these classes get more powerful. Most [[player character]]s are (or at least start out) in this layer.
	** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.		** Mercenaries and men-at-arms fall around this level too. A common peasant could easily improve their station a bit by being willing to pick up a weapon. While sellswords were generally frowned at by the pious and the industrious alike, there was never any shortage of customers looking to hire a fighting man.
	** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor.		** Merchants generally exist in this area, though there is a lot of variation. At the top you have a few merchant princes with long range high value trade deals, are the patrons of local businesses and are wealthier than at least the lower strata of the nobility and have considerable pull even without formal title. On the bottom you have peddlers traveling from town to town with an old hand-cart trading odds and ends and selling them to the poor, earning just enough at the end of the day to avoid starvation. Most lie somewhere in between.
	* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).		* The largest group are [[peasant]]s (or "commoners" for a more polite term) who grow the food that everyone eats. Not all of them are happy in this situation (cf: the [[Wikipedia:French Revolution\|French Revolution]]).
	* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.		* The lowest class is the underclass. Pretty small in the grand scheme of things these guys do the really shitty jobs such as being nightsoil men and scavengers who looked through garbage middens for anything they might be able to sell, use or eat. If you're in this class '''''everyone''''' looks down on you.