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1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: Removed outdated announcements of long since published splatbooks.

2023-03-07T17:22:20Z

Removed outdated announcements of long since published splatbooks.

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	'''Dark Heresy 2nd Edition''' is a repainting of [[Only War]] to make it palatable for hunting heretics and daemons. As such, it has ported many aspects from Only War, which makes it varying degrees of both [[awesome]] and/or [[fail]], depending on who you ask.		'''Dark Heresy 2nd Edition''' is a repainting of [[Only War]] to make it palatable for hunting heretics and daemons. As such, it has ported many aspects from Only War, which makes it varying degrees of both [[awesome]] and/or [[fail]], depending on who you ask.

	STOP THE PRESS! A new supplement has been announced for the last quarter of 2015 - Enemies Without! Dedicated to the Ordo Xenos, it will provide a host of new weaponry and a new role dedicated to driving things ("the Ace"). The "Enemies" announced are Eldar of all kinds, Kroot, Orks and Tyranids. Additional hopes include Xenos vehicles, some new stuff for Radical puritains, and Xenos PCs and Henchmen.

	Before the Xenos supplement has even hit the shelves, FFG has announced Enemies Beyond, the Malleus supplement, for the first quarter of 2016. It will expand on the Radical side of the Inquisition, including rules for the creation of daemonhosts and the forging of Dark Pacts. In addition, there are new home worlds (Quarantined Worlds and Penal Colonies). It will also reintroduce Exorcised PCs.

	Already infamous for having a fucking horrendous binding. [[Fail\|Seriously, this shit was falling apart weeks after it was released.]] However, [[FFG]] showed their [[This Guy]]-ism by sending out free copies of the books to those who bitched.		Already infamous for having a fucking horrendous binding. [[Fail\|Seriously, this shit was falling apart weeks after it was released.]] However, [[FFG]] showed their [[This Guy]]-ism by sending out free copies of the books to those who bitched.

1d4chan>Cdru at 10:10, 22 October 2022

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	When it comes to effective Melee weapons, Chain weapons are a good choice, as they usually give you more damage than a typical rifle and with Tearing, there's a higher chance of Righteous Fury, allowing you to potentially stun-lock the enemy.		When it comes to effective Melee weapons, Chain weapons are a good choice, as they usually give you more damage than a typical rifle and with Tearing, there's a higher chance of Righteous Fury, allowing you to potentially stun-lock the enemy.

	Low-tech warhammers make the opponent test Toughness at -10 or get stunned on every hit. This offers opportunity to stun-lock opponents without relying on getting Righteous Fury and rolling the right effect. Their only problem is the Primitive (8) quality, but that can be resolved by giving it to a feral worlder, or applying mono upgrade (can be done for starting character for the price of one requisition), or both. Flip side, leaving the Primitive quality can be a good idea if you intend to capture some of the weaker opponents alive for interrogation.		Low-tech warhammers make the opponent test Toughness at -10 or get stunned on every hit and fall prone (unless they're very strong, and you roll badly on damage). This offers opportunity to stun-lock opponents without relying on getting Righteous Fury and rolling the right effect. Their only problem is the Primitive (8) quality, but that can be resolved by giving it to a feral worlder, or applying mono upgrade (can be done for starting character for the price of one requisition), or both. Flip side, leaving the Primitive quality can be a good idea if you intend to capture some of the weaker opponents alive for interrogation.

	==Sample Combat==		==Sample Combat==

1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: /* Elite Advances */ Clarified a point about Sisters of Battle gear

2022-10-08T00:59:53Z

Elite Advances: Clarified a point about Sisters of Battle gear

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	**Minimum Willpower: 40		**Minimum Willpower: 40
	**Adepta Sororitas background only		**Adepta Sororitas background only
	**Instant Bonuses: Peer (Adepta Sororitas) and Weapon Training (Bolt) Talents, Scholastic Lore (Tactica Imperialis) Skill, Willpower Aptitude, ~~can use~~ Adepta Sororitas power armor and Godwyn-De'az bolt ~~weapons~~		**Instant Bonuses: Peer (Adepta Sororitas) and Weapon Training (Bolt) Talents, Scholastic Lore (Tactica Imperialis) Skill, Willpower Aptitude, get Adepta Sororitas power armor and Godwyn-De'az bolt pistol (those can be acquired by a character with Adepta Soraritas background without the Sister of Battle elite advance, but it would be highly unlikely to succeed in doing so without the use of an Inquisitor's influence, and even then it's only about even chance, typically)
	***Remember how the Adepta Sororitas background makes you gain Insanity Points when you would normally gain Corruption? As it turns out, a lot of the SoB unique talents actually require you to have a minimum Insanity score and even get stronger as you accumulate Insanity points. In WH40k, "crazy" is just another way of saying "faithful".		***Remember how the Adepta Sororitas background makes you gain Insanity Points when you would normally gain Corruption? As it turns out, a lot of the SoB unique talents actually require you to have a minimum Insanity score and even get stronger as you accumulate Insanity points. In WH40k, "crazy" is just another way of saying "faithful".

1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: Opened a section on melee combat

2022-10-08T00:40:11Z

Opened a section on melee combat

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	* Just because you can use a weapon that's obviously tainted by Chaos doesn't mean you should actually do so.		* Just because you can use a weapon that's obviously tainted by Chaos doesn't mean you should actually do so.

	==How To Survive A Firefight==		==Doing Combat==
			===How To Survive A Firefight===
	Dark Heresy has something of a reputation for being highly lethal - your average starting character has somewhere between 9 and 14 wounds at most, and most rifle-class weapons do 1d10+3 damage on a hit - but assuming your GM isn't a complete dick and your characters fight intelligently, you can generally come off very well against most varieties of human opponent, and careful planning and equipment selection can even the odds even when fighting against xenos or demons.		Dark Heresy has something of a reputation for being highly lethal - your average starting character has somewhere between 9 and 14 wounds at most, and most rifle-class weapons do 1d10+3 damage on a hit - but assuming your GM isn't a complete dick and your characters fight intelligently, you can generally come off very well against most varieties of human opponent, and careful planning and equipment selection can even the odds even when fighting against xenos or demons.

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	In conclusion, equipment and cohesive tactics are what make or break an acolyte cell in a serious firefight. Although having experience, high skills and plenty of talents helps, a lack of these is more than made up for by pimped out gear and a good plan. If you have both, your cell can become a force to fear even for very well trained and equipped enemies.		In conclusion, equipment and cohesive tactics are what make or break an acolyte cell in a serious firefight. Although having experience, high skills and plenty of talents helps, a lack of these is more than made up for by pimped out gear and a good plan. If you have both, your cell can become a force to fear even for very well trained and equipped enemies.

			===Getting Close And Personal===
			When it comes to effective Melee weapons, Chain weapons are a good choice, as they usually give you more damage than a typical rifle and with Tearing, there's a higher chance of Righteous Fury, allowing you to potentially stun-lock the enemy.

			Low-tech warhammers make the opponent test Toughness at -10 or get stunned on every hit. This offers opportunity to stun-lock opponents without relying on getting Righteous Fury and rolling the right effect. Their only problem is the Primitive (8) quality, but that can be resolved by giving it to a feral worlder, or applying mono upgrade (can be done for starting character for the price of one requisition), or both. Flip side, leaving the Primitive quality can be a good idea if you intend to capture some of the weaker opponents alive for interrogation.

	==Sample Combat==		==Sample Combat==

1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: /* How To Survive A Firefight */ Notes on higher ground.

2022-10-08T00:27:48Z

How To Survive A Firefight: Notes on higher ground.

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	The cell's primary firearms should be chosen to work well together. Weapons that can fire fully-automatic and weapons that have the Accurate quality are generally your best choices. A good hit with a full-auto burst can do serious damage to enemies, but by far their most important aspect is the ability to lay down Suppressive Fire. Crucially, even if you have terrible ballistic skill and no training with the weapon you're using, your ability to suppress enemies is completely unhindered. Your burst of fire almost certainly won't hit anything, but the difficulty of the test your foes must make to resist being pinned is unchanged regardless of how well you can aim. This can give less combat-oriented careers, such as the Sage, an important role to play when it comes to a fight, where they might otherwise have been reduced to hiding behind something heavy and occasionally plinking away with some crappy pistol.		The cell's primary firearms should be chosen to work well together. Weapons that can fire fully-automatic and weapons that have the Accurate quality are generally your best choices. A good hit with a full-auto burst can do serious damage to enemies, but by far their most important aspect is the ability to lay down Suppressive Fire. Crucially, even if you have terrible ballistic skill and no training with the weapon you're using, your ability to suppress enemies is completely unhindered. Your burst of fire almost certainly won't hit anything, but the difficulty of the test your foes must make to resist being pinned is unchanged regardless of how well you can aim. This can give less combat-oriented careers, such as the Sage, an important role to play when it comes to a fight, where they might otherwise have been reduced to hiding behind something heavy and occasionally plinking away with some crappy pistol.

	High BS characters can be quite dangerous with fully automatic weapons, but should give serious consideration to using Accurate single-shot weapons, especially if they've picked up the Talents for making Called Shots at reduced penalty. Not only does an Accurate weapon grant an additional bonus to your chances to hit if you take the time to aim it, it can do extra dice of damage on a good shot - unlike a full-auto attack, this is a single hit that does more damage rather than multiple hits that are each individually subject to reduction by the target's toughness and armour. This makes Accurate weapons great at punching through the damage reduction of particularly tough enemies, particularly if combined with the Called Shot to aim for a part of the target that is less well armoured or isn't in cover properly. With appropriate weapon modifications and a Half Action to aim, the acolyte is looking at at least a +30 bonus to hit. Most firefights will take place well within an Accurate weapon's effective short range, raising that bonus to +40.		High BS characters can be quite dangerous with fully automatic weapons, but should give serious consideration to using Accurate single-shot weapons, especially if they've picked up the Talents for making Called Shots at reduced penalty. Not only does an Accurate weapon grant an additional bonus to your chances to hit if you take the time to aim it, it can do extra dice of damage on a good shot - unlike a full-auto attack, this is a single hit that does more damage rather than multiple hits that are each individually subject to reduction by the target's toughness and armour. This makes Accurate weapons great at punching through the damage reduction of particularly tough enemies, particularly if combined with the Called Shot to aim for a part of the target that is less well armoured or isn't in cover properly. With appropriate weapon modifications and a Half Action to aim, the acolyte is looking at at least a +30 bonus to hit. Most firefights will take place well within an Accurate weapon's effective short range, raising that bonus to +40. Get to higher ground (grapnel and line can help you go up on structures Batman-style), and you're looking at +50.

	Combine these two classes of weapon within your group, and you'll have some acolytes that lay down suppressive fire and force enemies into cover and some who can take accurate potshots at the suppressed enemies to take them down with little fear of receiving effective return fire. Any foe who manages to find cover sufficient to shield him from all shots can probably be reached with a well-placed grenade.		Combine these two classes of weapon within your group, and you'll have some acolytes that lay down suppressive fire and force enemies into cover and some who can take accurate potshots at the suppressed enemies to take them down with little fear of receiving effective return fire. Any foe who manages to find cover sufficient to shield him from all shots can probably be reached with a well-placed grenade.

1d4chan>Newerfag: /* Homeworld */

2022-05-30T23:19:23Z

Homeworld

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	! Daemon World: Tuchulcha		! Daemon World: Tuchulcha
	\| Willpower \|\| ''Inured to the Horrors'': A character from Tuchulcha ~~beings~~ with 3d5 Corruption points. In addition to the normal uses of Fate points (see page 293 of the Dark Heresy Core Rulebook), once per encounter he may spend a Fate point to count as having the Adamantium Faith talent until the beginning of his next turn. \|\| Enemies Beyond \|\| Perception, Willpower \|\| Fellowship \|\| data-sort-value=4 \| 4+ \|\| 3 \|\| 3.7 \|\| data-sort-value=8 \| 8+1d5 \|\| 10.5		\| Willpower \|\| ''Inured to the Horrors'': A character from Tuchulcha begins with 3d5 Corruption points. In addition to the normal uses of Fate points (see page 293 of the Dark Heresy Core Rulebook), once per encounter he may spend a Fate point to count as having the Adamantium Faith talent until the beginning of his next turn. \|\| Enemies Beyond \|\| Perception, Willpower \|\| Fellowship \|\| data-sort-value=4 \| 4+ \|\| 3 \|\| 3.7 \|\| data-sort-value=8 \| 8+1d5 \|\| 10.5
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	! Death World		! Death World

1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: /* Splat Books */ Slightly amended list of stuff in Enemies Beyond.

2021-05-18T12:06:06Z

Splat Books: Slightly amended list of stuff in Enemies Beyond.

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	*'''Enemies Without''': The second supplement, focusing on the Ordo Xenos and the xeno species that infest the Askellon sector (specifically, [[Eldar]] of all types, [[Orks]], [[Kroot]], and the occasional Tyranid, as well as hints that the Necrons may also be active there even if they're not referred to as such). Death Worlds, Garden Worlds, and Research Stations are added as homeworlds, and a few more backgrounds and roles are added too along with another more open-ended form of investigation called an Explication. Some more worlds in the Askellon sector that have been particularly affected by xenos are given an overview as well, along with a general profile of the local Craftworld and Dark Eldar Kabal that operate in the region.		*'''Enemies Without''': The second supplement, focusing on the Ordo Xenos and the xeno species that infest the Askellon sector (specifically, [[Eldar]] of all types, [[Orks]], [[Kroot]], and the occasional Tyranid, as well as hints that the Necrons may also be active there even if they're not referred to as such). Death Worlds, Garden Worlds, and Research Stations are added as homeworlds, and a few more backgrounds and roles are added too along with another more open-ended form of investigation called an Explication. Some more worlds in the Askellon sector that have been particularly affected by xenos are given an overview as well, along with a general profile of the local Craftworld and Dark Eldar Kabal that operate in the region.

	*'''Enemies Beyond''': The third supplement, focusing on the Ordo Malleus in the Askellon sector. Released February 2016, highlights include the Astropath elite advance, Sanctic and Malefic psychic power trees, sanctified/possessed weapons, and some new character creation options, specifically the Exorcised background and choosing a daemon, penal, or quarantined world as your home planet. The new toys you get are Heavy Power Armor, Obsidian Plate, a magic stick for banishing daemons, empyrean brain mines, and psyoccula. GMs get tools for generating Daemon Princes and incursions, as well as daemonic possessions and other Warpy goodness.		*'''Enemies Beyond''': The third supplement, focusing on the Ordo Malleus in the Askellon sector. Released February 2016, highlights include the Astropath elite advance, Sanctic and Malefic psychic power trees, sanctified/possessed weapons, and some new character creation options, specifically the Exorcised background and choosing a daemon, penal, or quarantined world as your home planet. The new toys you get are Heavy Power Armor, Obsidian Plate, a magic stick for banishing daemons, empyrean brain mines, and psyoccula. GMs get tools for generating Daemonhosts, Daemon Princes and incursions, as well as daemonic possessions and other Warpy goodness.

	*'''Seeds of Heresy''': Multiple choice adventure set on a backwater agri-world that's been cut off for decades that's overseen by 3 factions, any of which can be either loyal (incompetent), criminal (regular corrupt), or heretical (Chaos/Warp corrupt). Adds the new homeworld if you need more characters while you're there.		*'''Seeds of Heresy''': Multiple choice adventure set on a backwater agri-world that's been cut off for decades that's overseen by 3 factions, any of which can be either loyal (incompetent), criminal (regular corrupt), or heretical (Chaos/Warp corrupt). Adds the new homeworld if you need more characters while you're there.

1d4chan>MrMurderHobo: /* Sample Combat */ added link to Horror in sample combat, to make it more approachable to newbs

2021-05-17T14:19:13Z

Sample Combat: added link to Horror in sample combat, to make it more approachable to newbs

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	Both him and the Scum are really busted up in a tangled mess of broken bones, skulls and dirt at the bottom of the hill. The well-intentioned but stupid Psyker decides to save the day by announcing that he'll fix them up, and before Angry Nun can finish screaming out "no don't the veil is weak here!" he's happily botching a power roll.		Both him and the Scum are really busted up in a tangled mess of broken bones, skulls and dirt at the bottom of the hill. The well-intentioned but stupid Psyker decides to save the day by announcing that he'll fix them up, and before Angry Nun can finish screaming out "no don't the veil is weak here!" he's happily botching a power roll.

	"A Horror of the ruinous ones appears!"<br>		"A [[Horror]] of the ruinous ones appears!"<br>
	Arbites promptly passes out in fear<br>		Arbites promptly passes out in fear<br>
	Desperado runs screaming, defecating and hobbling<br>		Desperado runs screaming, defecating and hobbling<br>