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	Lysander has what might be one of the manliest back-stories of all time. His backstory begins as a kid of only 13. After surviving a Waaagh! and a heresy, he was recruited on Holy Terra because a captain thought he was the second coming of Dorn. He murdered what we can only assume were scores of chaos. He also boarded and captured the Eldar vessel named the Blood of Khaine. It is generally accepted that the Blood of Khaine had the Avatar of Khaine onboard, so we can only assume that Lysander tore it apart with his bare hands. Unfortunately, other factions began powergaming, trying to stop Lysander and company from doing the incredibly cheesy tactic of Drop-pods and Teleport homers, so the cultists used Warp dickery to mishap a squad of Terminators into a mountainside. As his Captain lay dying, he saw it fit to bestow Lysander with the Fist of Dorn, the coolest looking Thunder Hammer that ever was. Lysander then killed all of the stupid chaos cultists (with said hammer), then got promoted to Captain.		Lysander has what might be one of the manliest back-stories of all time. His backstory begins as a kid of only 13. After surviving a Waaagh! and a heresy, he was recruited on Holy Terra because a captain thought he was the second coming of Dorn. He murdered what we can only assume were scores of chaos. He also boarded and captured the Eldar vessel named the Blood of Khaine. It is generally accepted that the Blood of Khaine had the Avatar of Khaine onboard, so we can only assume that Lysander tore it apart with his bare hands. Unfortunately, other factions began powergaming, trying to stop Lysander and company from doing the incredibly cheesy tactic of Drop-pods and Teleport homers, so the cultists used Warp dickery to mishap a squad of Terminators into a mountainside. As his Captain lay dying, he saw it fit to bestow Lysander with the Fist of Dorn, the coolest looking Thunder Hammer that ever was. Lysander then killed all of the stupid chaos cultists (with said hammer), then got promoted to Captain.

	For years, Lysander terrorized the galaxy with the Fist of Dorn, deep striking himself and other Terminators into other enemy squads and shoving fist-hammer up anus and similar hole alike, just like how you play him tabletop. He later happened upon an Alpha Legion base, and tore them to shreds. All of them. Years later, as he was chilling with some Terminators on their way to Deep Strike some poor xenos, he got stuck in a warp storm and was lost. During this time stuck in the Warp storm, he probably roamed the warp with Draigo, beating the everloving shit out of whatever poor demon they met. A thousand years of demon-killing later, he re-emerged back into regular space. Chaos-held space.		For years, Lysander terrorized the galaxy with the Fist of Dorn, deep striking himself and other Terminators into other enemy squads and shoving fist-hammer up anus and similar hole alike, just like how you play him tabletop. He later happened upon an Alpha Legion base, and tore them to shreds. All of them. Years later, as he was chilling with some Terminators on their way to Deep Strike some poor xenos, he got stuck in a warp storm and was lost. During this time stuck in the Warp storm, he probably roamed the warp with Draigo, beating the everloving shit out of whatever poor demon they met. A thousand years of demon-killing later, he re-emerged back into regular space. Chaos-held space.

	Immediately captured by Iron Warriors under the command of Warsmith [[Shon'tu]] (the self-proclaimed reincarnation of an infamous warlord of the same name who ruled during the Dark Age of Technology), who blew up his ship, then captured him and some of the survivors. The mad Warsmith then tortured them for a few weeks on their fortress world of Malodrax in between bouts of ranting about "his" past exploits. Tired of the Iron Warrior's shit, Lysander broke his way out of Malodrax's capital with his bare hands, leaving a trail of death and destruction. He broke out of a fortress-world full of Chaos Space Marines specialized in fortified positions and close combat. [[Awesome\|Naked]].		Immediately captured by Iron Warriors under the command of Warsmith [[Shon'tu]] (the self-proclaimed reincarnation of an infamous warlord of the same name who ruled during the Dark Age of Technology), who blew up his ship, then captured him and some of the survivors. The mad Warsmith then tortured them for a few weeks on their fortress world of Malodrax in between bouts of ranting about "his" past exploits. Tired of the Iron Warrior's shit, Lysander broke his way out of Malodrax's capital with his bare hands, leaving a trail of death and destruction. He broke out of a fortress-world full of Chaos Space Marines specialized in fortified positions and close combat. [[Awesome\|Naked]].
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	Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).		Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).

	In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is that he's so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.		In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is that he's so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.

	[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.		[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.
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	Lysander is tough. Do not fight Lysander. He will win. He has a captain's stat line with an extra wound and a bunch of fun toys. Basics first, he has ATSKNF and Chapter Tactics (Imperial Fists: Bolter Drills, which Lysander gives 0 shits about), plus he has Eternal Warrior. His warlord trait gives him FNP, as if he needed more durability, and a unique rule "Icon of Obstinacy" that makes your space marines within 12" know no fear (rerolling morale checks! Because they really needed that. For toys he has a suit of terminator armor for a good save, plus he has a storm shield and the "Fist of Dorn" which is a thunder hammer that strikes at strength 10 AP2.		Lysander is tough. Do not fight Lysander. He will win. He has a captain's stat line with an extra wound and a bunch of fun toys. Basics first, he has ATSKNF and Chapter Tactics (Imperial Fists: Bolter Drills, which Lysander gives 0 shits about), plus he has Eternal Warrior. His warlord trait gives him FNP, as if he needed more durability, and a unique rule "Icon of Obstinacy" that makes your space marines within 12" know no fear (rerolling morale checks! Because they really needed that. For toys he has a suit of terminator armor for a good save, plus he has a storm shield and the "Fist of Dorn" which is a thunder hammer that strikes at strength 10 AP2.

	Lysander is dead 'ard and dead killy. Seriously, not only is this fucker striking at strength 10, he's got 2+/3++/5+++ with eternal warrior and he WILL NOT run away from you. While he's no tactical genius, Lysander will take most challengers that dare to step up. Seriously, even [[Marneus Calgar\|The]] [[Dante\|Big]] [[Logan Grimnar\|Three]], or [[Smashfucker]] will have trouble with this guy. By mathhammer he'll only consistently lose to a few independent character challengers like [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Asterion Moloc]], [[Abaddon]], or [[Phoenix Lord\|a few of the Phoenix Lords]], like [[Phoenix Lord#Jain_Zar\|Jain Zar]] or [[Phoenix Lord#Asurmen\|Asurmen]], with his "Fuck-Your-Eternal-Warrior" 1-shot sword.		Lysander is dead 'ard and dead killy. Seriously, not only is this fucker striking at strength 10, he's got 2+/3++/5+++ with eternal warrior and he WILL NOT run away from you. While he's no tactical genius, Lysander will take most challengers that dare to step up. Seriously, even [[Marneus Calgar\|The]] [[Dante\|Big]] [[Logan Grimnar\|Three]], or [[Smashfucker]] will have trouble with this guy. By mathhammer he'll only consistently lose to a few independent character challengers like [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Asterion Moloc]], [[Abaddon]], or [[Phoenix Lord\|a few of the Phoenix Lords]], like [[Phoenix Lord#Jain_Zar\|Jain Zar]] or [[Phoenix Lord#Asurmen\|Asurmen]], with his "Fuck-Your-Eternal-Warrior" 1-shot sword.
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	**'''Icon of Obstinacy''': Only 1 '''IMPERIAL FIST''' model may flee as a result of a failed morale test within 6".		**'''Icon of Obstinacy''': Only 1 '''IMPERIAL FIST''' model may flee as a result of a failed morale test within 6".
	**'''Rites of Battle''': Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|<CHAPTER>}} units within 6".		**'''Rites of Battle''': Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|<CHAPTER>}} units within 6".
	**'''Warlord Trait''': ''Indomitable'': Cannot be wounded by wound rolls of 1-3, regardless of the weapon's Strength characteristic. Makes him considerable harder to shift due to effectively ignoring 50% of all wounds.		**'''Warlord Trait''': ''Indomitable'': Cannot be wounded by wound rolls of 1-3, regardless of the weapon's Strength characteristic. Makes him considerable harder to shift due to effectively ignoring 50% of all wounds.
	*'''Wargear'''		*'''Wargear'''

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	For years, Lysander terrorized the galaxy with the Fist of Dorn, deep striking himself and other Terminators into other enemy squads and shoving fist-hammer up anus and similar hole alike, just like how you play him tabletop. He later happened upon an Alpha Legion base, and tore them to shreds. All of them. Years later, as he was chilling with some Terminators on their way to Deep Strike some poor xenos, he got stuck in a warp storm and was lost. During this time stuck in the Warp storm, he probably roamed the warp with Draigo, beating the everloving shit out of whatever poor demon they met. A thousand years of demon-killing later, he re-emerged back into regular space. Chaos-held space.		For years, Lysander terrorized the galaxy with the Fist of Dorn, deep striking himself and other Terminators into other enemy squads and shoving fist-hammer up anus and similar hole alike, just like how you play him tabletop. He later happened upon an Alpha Legion base, and tore them to shreds. All of them. Years later, as he was chilling with some Terminators on their way to Deep Strike some poor xenos, he got stuck in a warp storm and was lost. During this time stuck in the Warp storm, he probably roamed the warp with Draigo, beating the everloving shit out of whatever poor demon they met. A thousand years of demon-killing later, he re-emerged back into regular space. Chaos-held space.

	Immediately captured by Iron Warriors under the command of Warsmith [[Shon'tu]] (the self-proclaimed reincarnation of an infamous warlord of the same name who ruled during the Dark Age of Technology), who blew up his ship, then captured him and some of the survivors. The mad Warsmith then tortured them for a few weeks on their fortress world of Malodrax in between bouts of ranting about "his" past exploits. Tired of the Iron Warrior's shit, Lysander broke his way out of Malodrax's capital with his bare hands, leaving a trail of death and destruction. He broke out of a fortress-world full of Chaos Space Marines specialized in fortified positions and close combat. [[Awesome\|Naked]].		Immediately captured by Iron Warriors under the command of Warsmith [[Shon'tu]] (the self-proclaimed reincarnation of an infamous warlord of the same name who ruled during the Dark Age of Technology), who blew up his ship, then captured him and some of the survivors. The mad Warsmith then tortured them for a few weeks on their fortress world of Malodrax in between bouts of ranting about "his" past exploits. Tired of the Iron Warrior's shit, Lysander broke his way out of Malodrax's capital with his bare hands, leaving a trail of death and destruction. He broke out of a fortress-world full of Chaos Space Marines specialized in fortified positions and close combat. [[Awesome\|Naked]].

	After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.		After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.
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	Lysander is tough. Do not fight Lysander. He will win. He has a captain's stat line with an extra wound and a bunch of fun toys. Basics first, he has ATSKNF and Chapter Tactics (Imperial Fists: Bolter Drills, which Lysander gives 0 shits about), plus he has Eternal Warrior. His warlord trait gives him FNP, as if he needed more durability, and a unique rule "Icon of Obstinacy" that makes your space marines within 12" know no fear (rerolling morale checks!） Because they really needed that. For toys he has a suit of terminator armor for a good save, plus he has a storm shield and the "Fist of Dorn" which is a thunder hammer that strikes at strength 10 AP2.		Lysander is tough. Do not fight Lysander. He will win. He has a captain's stat line with an extra wound and a bunch of fun toys. Basics first, he has ATSKNF and Chapter Tactics (Imperial Fists: Bolter Drills, which Lysander gives 0 shits about), plus he has Eternal Warrior. His warlord trait gives him FNP, as if he needed more durability, and a unique rule "Icon of Obstinacy" that makes your space marines within 12" know no fear (rerolling morale checks! Because they really needed that. For toys he has a suit of terminator armor for a good save, plus he has a storm shield and the "Fist of Dorn" which is a thunder hammer that strikes at strength 10 AP2.

	Lysander is dead 'ard and dead killy. Seriously, not only is this fucker striking at strength 10, he's got 2+/3++/5+++ with eternal warrior and he WILL NOT run away from you. While he's no tactical genius, Lysander will take most challengers that dare to step up. Seriously, even [[Marneus Calgar\|The]] [[Dante\|Big]] [[Logan Grimnar\|Three]], or [[Smashfucker]] will have trouble with this guy. By mathhammer he'll only consistently lose to a few independent character challengers like [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Asterion Moloc]], [[Abaddon]], or [[Phoenix Lord\|a few of the Phoenix Lords]], like [[Phoenix Lord#Jain_Zar\|Jain Zar]] or [[Phoenix Lord#Asurmen\|Asurmen]], with his "Fuck-Your-Eternal-Warrior" 1-shot sword.		Lysander is dead 'ard and dead killy. Seriously, not only is this fucker striking at strength 10, he's got 2+/3++/5+++ with eternal warrior and he WILL NOT run away from you. While he's no tactical genius, Lysander will take most challengers that dare to step up. Seriously, even [[Marneus Calgar\|The]] [[Dante\|Big]] [[Logan Grimnar\|Three]], or [[Smashfucker]] will have trouble with this guy. By mathhammer he'll only consistently lose to a few independent character challengers like [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Asterion Moloc]], [[Abaddon]], or [[Phoenix Lord\|a few of the Phoenix Lords]], like [[Phoenix Lord#Jain_Zar\|Jain Zar]] or [[Phoenix Lord#Asurmen\|Asurmen]], with his "Fuck-Your-Eternal-Warrior" 1-shot sword.
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	**'''Icon of Obstinacy''': Only 1 '''IMPERIAL FIST''' model may flee as a result of a failed morale test within 6".		**'''Icon of Obstinacy''': Only 1 '''IMPERIAL FIST''' model may flee as a result of a failed morale test within 6".
	**'''Rites of Battle''': Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|<CHAPTER>}} units within 6".		**'''Rites of Battle''': Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly {{W40Kkeyword\|<CHAPTER>}} units within 6".
	**'''Warlord Trait''': ''Indomitable'': Cannot be wounded by wound rolls of 1-3, regardless of the weapon's Strength characteristic. Makes him considerable harder to shift due to effectively ignoring 50% of all wounds.		**'''Warlord Trait''': ''Indomitable'': Cannot be wounded by wound rolls of 1-3, regardless of the weapon's Strength characteristic. Makes him considerable harder to shift due to effectively ignoring 50% of all wounds.
	*'''Wargear'''		*'''Wargear'''
	**Terminator Armor, Storm Shield, Fist of Dorn		**Terminator Armor, Storm Shield, Fist of Dorn

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A Bad Boss

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	Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, ~~[[File:Lysander.jpg\|450px\|thumb\|The poster-boy of the Imperial fists.]]~~instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).		[[File:Lysander.jpg\|450px\|thumb\|right\|The poster-boy of the Imperial fists.]]
			Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).

	In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is that he's so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.		In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is that he's so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.

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	[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.		[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.

	~~[[skub\|Or does he?]]~~ For his flaws, Lysander has now turned down taking up the mantle of [[Chapter Master]] not once, but twice when offered by his fellows. The reason ''why'' is never stated outright, but whether out of humility, stubbornness or a [[rage\|burning need]] to [[Rip and tear\|cave traitors' skulls in]] by deploying some [[anal circumference\|Thunderhammer time upon them]]; he is at least on some level aware his way of doing things might not be the best and that getting overall command would be bad for his Chapter.		Recently GW seems to be trying to rehabilitate his image. For his flaws, Lysander has now turned down taking up the mantle of [[Chapter Master]] not once, but twice when offered by his fellows. The reason ''why'' is never stated outright, but whether out of humility, stubbornness or a [[rage\|burning need]] to [[Rip and tear\|cave traitors' skulls in]] by deploying some [[anal circumference\|Thunderhammer time upon them]]; he is at least on some level aware his way of doing things might not be the best and that getting overall command would be bad for his Chapter.

	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==

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A Bad Boss

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	[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.		[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.

			[[skub\|Or does he?]] For his flaws, Lysander has now turned down taking up the mantle of [[Chapter Master]] not once, but twice when offered by his fellows. The reason ''why'' is never stated outright, but whether out of humility, stubbornness or a [[rage\|burning need]] to [[Rip and tear\|cave traitors' skulls in]] by deploying some [[anal circumference\|Thunderhammer time upon them]]; he is at least on some level aware his way of doing things might not be the best and that getting overall command would be bad for his Chapter.

	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==

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	After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.		After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.

	[http://www.scribd.com/doc/147213864/m1180071-Space-Marines-Datasheet-Terminator-Titanhammer-Squads Today, he walks around with his hammer and his hammer-wielding buddies whacking at the ankles of Traitor Titans.		[http://www.scribd.com/doc/147213864/m1180071-Space-Marines-Datasheet-Terminator-Titanhammer-Squads Today, he walks around with his hammer and his hammer-wielding buddies whacking at the ankles of Traitor Titans].

	==A Bad Boss==		==A Bad Boss==

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Backstory

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	After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.		After returning to Imperial space, he was screened for all types of daemonette STD's and for traces of heresy. Amazingly, he was clean. Being the oldest Space Marine alive (except for Dante), he was promoted back to captain of the first company. His first act was to go back to the Iron Warrior fortress world of Malodrax, and destroy all that remained. Due to his rampage earlier, he succeeded in destroying a few untoppled buildings and Chaos UNICEF, but Shon'tu... well, here is where things get fuzzy. In the book ''Malodrax'' Lysander beats the everliving shit out of the Warsmith of Malodrax, using special Inquisition anti-Marine poison for good measure. However, the book never actually gives the Warsmith's name, just that Lysander knew who he was. Why is this important? Because every other source makes it clear Shon'tu had long since escaped Malodrax and Lysander never found him.

	[http://www.scribd.com/doc/147213864/m1180071-Space-Marines-Datasheet-Terminator-Titanhammer-Squads Today, he walks around with his hammer and his hammer-wielding buddies whacking at the ankles of Traitor Titans.]		[http://www.scribd.com/doc/147213864/m1180071-Space-Marines-Datasheet-Terminator-Titanhammer-Squads Today, he walks around with his hammer and his hammer-wielding buddies whacking at the ankles of Traitor Titans.

	~~After the Great Rift, Darnath Lysander and the Legion of the Damned attempted to save a planet from a Daemon Horde. They lost (the first and only loss of the Legion of the Damned to boot!)~~

	==A Bad Boss==		==A Bad Boss==

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	Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, [[File:Lysander.jpg\|450px\|thumb\|The poster-boy of the Imperial fists.]]instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).		Darnath Lysander is not the sort of person you'd want as your employer. Even amongst genetically enhanced religious fanatics indoctrinated from childhood to genocide all deviants to death, he has a reputation for being a bit of a cockhead. For example, once upon a time, the Imperial Fists 3rd Company was surrounded by Iron Warriors, their Captain was killed, and the company was almost annihilated. The few survivors of the ordeal would later learn that reinforcements from the Blood Angels and Ultramarines were in the system and available for rapid deployment at any time, but Lysander, the commander of the Imperial Fists on the planet, was too proud to accept their aid, [[File:Lysander.jpg\|450px\|thumb\|The poster-boy of the Imperial fists.]]instead preferring to allow his marines to die in great, heaping mounds. In fact, during the subsequent trial, Lysander continued to deny that their assistance was ever needed and even suggested that if the Ultramarines hadn't intervened, he would have slain the Warsmith commanding their forces. (Incidentally, the Warsmith in question was none other than Shon'tu, which suggests that Lysander was motivated by revenge and not just stubbornness.) While Chapter Master Vladimir Pugh considered stripping him of his rank for allowing the unnecessary deaths of so many of his men, doing so ran the risk of causing a split in the Chapter, as many believed Lysander's actions to be heroic instead of the byproduct of a single-minded obsession with revenge against the Iron Warriors. As a compromise, he merely demoted Lysander to the rank of 3rd Company Captain (and promptly reassigned them to a crusade against the Orks, much to Lysander's disappointment).

	In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.		In the book Architect of Fate, Lysander was attached to an Imperial Fist garrison on board a star fortress, so he clearly goes where he wants when he wants to. Continuing the theme of being a bad boss, he murdered the astropath so that a clandestine call for reinforcements wouldn't get out (the astro knew it was coming, and was okay with it in the end, so not so bad we guess?), had his injured [[Techmarine]] possessed so that he could kill a daemon dead, and manipulated the enemy [[Warsmith]] into unleashing his pet greater daemon so that his reinforcements could kill it. He won in the end, but lost at least one star fortress and got a lot of his own killed in the process. The theme there was that Lysander thought that no price for victory against Chaos was too steep, which just reinforces him as being pretty obsessive about revenge against Chaos, no matter how much it hurts his own side in the end. Although, if it really is that he's so obsessed with fighting Chaos, he should put his pride as secondary rather than refusing reinforcements and the like. On the other hand, putting fewer forces into harm's way when it is not '''''strictly absolutely definitively''''' necessary does have its own merits.

	[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.		[http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/638/6021/original.jpg This is not bullshit, this is actually canon.] Unsurprisingly, this garbage was written by everyone's favorite serial [[Matthew Ward\|canon]]-[[Robin Cruddace\|rapists]]; see [http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/sentinels-of-terra-part-2-lore.html THIS] and [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281122-sentinels-of-terra-a-sm-supplement/?p=3479977 THIS]. Cuz, you know, Ward will fling his own poo at every Chapter Master other than his beloved Papa Smurf in order to make [[Marneus Calgar\|him]] look good. Then again, considering Lysander's tendencies towards [[Malal\|being a self-destructive teamkiller just so he can destroy the forces of Chaos]], [[Just As Planned\|something sinister may be afoot here]]. If you gaze in the abyss, the abyss gazes into you; and Lysander's behavior is strangly reminiscent of his hated enemies disdain for every other thing in order to secure victory. Or he just has trouble remembering that not everyone has 2+ and 3++ saves, Eternal Warrior and 4 wounds like he does.