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217.180.196.10: /* Warp Spider Squad */

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Warp Spider Squad

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	===Warp Spider Squad===		===Warp Spider Squad===
	* The single most durable mobile infantry in the game with over 880HP a squad member when upgraded along with armour just below that of Terminators. Between their toughness, mobility, and being equipped with both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle weaponry, there is a good case for these being the single most powerful infantry squad type in the game.		* The single most durable mobile infantry (C’mon you apes!) in the game with over 880HP a squad member when upgraded along with armour just below that of Terminators. Between their toughness, mobility, and being equipped with both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle weaponry, there is a good case for these being the single most powerful infantry squad type in the game.
	* Actually have a hardcap, but unlike most other elite units (hardcapped at 1) they are hardcapped at 3, and three full squads will lay down more firepower than heavy squads of other armies given that they have up to 8 members in each squad firing their weapons.		* Actually have a hardcap, but unlike most other elite units (hardcapped at 1) they are hardcapped at 3, and three full squads will lay down more firepower than heavy squads of other armies given that they have up to 8 members in each squad firing their weapons.
	* Can be modified to carry Haywire grenades that slags vehicles and buildings, so they can pretty much solo everything thrown at them short of Relic units.		* Can be modified to carry Haywire grenades that slags vehicles and buildings, so they can pretty much solo everything thrown at them short of Relic units.

1d4chan>Nubnuber: updating berzerker links

2022-02-08T00:48:19Z

updating berzerker links

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	===Howling Banshee Squad===		===Howling Banshee Squad===
	* After the fire-on-the-move "fix" turned every race but Eldar into something slightly less-effective than grease on fire, these and Dark Reapers became the mainstay of Eldar strike groups. Which, it should be noted, the Banshee's always were anyway.		* After the fire-on-the-move "fix" turned every race but Eldar into something slightly less-effective than grease on fire, these and Dark Reapers became the mainstay of Eldar strike groups. Which, it should be noted, the Banshee's always were anyway.
	* One of the greatest DPS units when fully upgraded, they also stand as an example of how the Eldar have some very durable units, their upgrades give them better armor, damage and health in comparison to other armies, eclipsing most factions' dedicated close-combat specialists - even ones specifically designed to kick ass and take names like [[~~Berserker\|~~Khorne ~~Berserkers~~]], Assault Marines, and Wyches. Thanks to a greater squad size they out-damage even dedicated assault elites like Sisters Repentia, Assault Terminators, and more when upgraded with the "Call of War" upgrade and their Exarch is factored in.		* One of the greatest DPS units when fully upgraded, they also stand as an example of how the Eldar have some very durable units, their upgrades give them better armor, damage and health in comparison to other armies, eclipsing most factions' dedicated close-combat specialists - even ones specifically designed to kick ass and take names like [[Khorne Berzerkers]], Assault Marines, and Wyches. Thanks to a greater squad size they out-damage even dedicated assault elites like Sisters Repentia, Assault Terminators, and more when upgraded with the "Call of War" upgrade and their Exarch is factored in.
	**Banshees also cost significantly less than the squads they can later outperform (though they will take much longer on the tech upgrades to be able to beat them) and unlike those squads they have no hardcap.		**Banshees also cost significantly less than the squads they can later outperform (though they will take much longer on the tech upgrades to be able to beat them) and unlike those squads they have no hardcap.
	**While they are a great and durable assault unit late game they definitely don't start out that way. Initially they have less than half they can be upgraded to get, and if they aren't fully reinforced with all possible upgrades they will usually have their shit kicked in by Terminators, Grey Knights, Nobz, Repentia and even regular assault units. On the other hand, Howling Banshees have no hardcap so your single squad of CC specialists can still be drowned by Banshees.		**While they are a great and durable assault unit late game they definitely don't start out that way. Initially they have less than half they can be upgraded to get, and if they aren't fully reinforced with all possible upgrades they will usually have their shit kicked in by Terminators, Grey Knights, Nobz, Repentia and even regular assault units. On the other hand, Howling Banshees have no hardcap so your single squad of CC specialists can still be drowned by Banshees.

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2021-06-26T02:33:24Z

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	===Howling Banshee Squad===		===Howling Banshee Squad===
	* After the fire-on-the-move "fix" turned every race but Eldar into something slightly less-effective than grease on fire, these and Dark Reapers became the mainstay of Eldar strike groups. Which, it should be noted, the Banshee's always were anyway.		* After the fire-on-the-move "fix" turned every race but Eldar into something slightly less-effective than grease on fire, these and Dark Reapers became the mainstay of Eldar strike groups. Which, it should be noted, the Banshee's always were anyway.
	* One of the greatest DPS units when fully upgraded, they also stand as an example of how the Eldar have some very durable units, their upgrades give them better armor, damage and health in comparison to other armies, eclipsing most factions' dedicated close-combat specialists - even ones specifically designed to kick ass and take names like [[~~Khorne~~\|Khorne Berserkers]], Assault Marines, and Wyches. Thanks to a greater squad size they out-damage even dedicated assault elites like Sisters Repentia, Assault Terminators, and more when upgraded with the "Call of War" upgrade and their Exarch is factored in.		* One of the greatest DPS units when fully upgraded, they also stand as an example of how the Eldar have some very durable units, their upgrades give them better armor, damage and health in comparison to other armies, eclipsing most factions' dedicated close-combat specialists - even ones specifically designed to kick ass and take names like [[Berserker\|Khorne Berserkers]], Assault Marines, and Wyches. Thanks to a greater squad size they out-damage even dedicated assault elites like Sisters Repentia, Assault Terminators, and more when upgraded with the "Call of War" upgrade and their Exarch is factored in.
	**Banshees also cost significantly less than the squads they can later outperform (though they will take much longer on the tech upgrades to be able to beat them) and unlike those squads they have no hardcap.		**Banshees also cost significantly less than the squads they can later outperform (though they will take much longer on the tech upgrades to be able to beat them) and unlike those squads they have no hardcap.
	**While they are a great and durable assault unit late game they definitely don't start out that way. Initially they have less than half they can be upgraded to get, and if they aren't fully reinforced with all possible upgrades they will usually have their shit kicked in by Terminators, Grey Knights, Nobz, Repentia and even regular assault units. On the other hand, Howling Banshees have no hardcap so your single squad of CC specialists can still be drowned by Banshees.		**While they are a great and durable assault unit late game they definitely don't start out that way. Initially they have less than half they can be upgraded to get, and if they aren't fully reinforced with all possible upgrades they will usually have their shit kicked in by Terminators, Grey Knights, Nobz, Repentia and even regular assault units. On the other hand, Howling Banshees have no hardcap so your single squad of CC specialists can still be drowned by Banshees.

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	Nickname given to [[Dawn of War]] by some users to describe, "dozens upon dozens of [[Eldar]]-favoring piles of bullshit seeping out of the various versions of the game". The original claim was that "no race managed to equal or even come within striking distance of the sheer unadulterated pile of BULLSHIT that Eldar were in Dawn of War post-Winter Assault"; in truth, while Eldar are definitely a strong faction, multiple debates have arisen questioning whether or not the Eldar were outright [[cheese\|broken]].		Nickname given to [[Dawn of War]] by some users to describe "dozens upon dozens of [[Eldar]]-favoring piles of bullshit seeping out of the various versions of the game". The original claim was that "no race managed to equal or even come within striking distance of the sheer unadulterated pile of BULLSHIT that Eldar were in Dawn of War post-Winter Assault"; in truth, while Eldar are definitely a strong faction, multiple debates have arisen questioning whether or not the Eldar were outright [[cheese\|broken]].

	There are often also comments along the lines of "it is possible to counter the Bonesinger building lockdown/ranged unit disruption/teleportation trolling by doing xyz". While technically true, that sort of thinking also overlooks the fact that you need advanced knowledge of how your faction and the Eldar faction work in order to not get screwed over by their freaking ''builder unit''. Yes, you can counter Eldar units if you know exactly what you're doing and they don't, but that level of skill disparity would result in a curbstomp battle against anyone but the Eldar. There are also Eldar players who say their faction isn't overpowered because, for example, their ranged specialists do little damage in melee. This is technically true, but with the Eldar there's always some catch - in this case, their elite infantry are so durable as to be par with Terminators and almost all of their infantry ''and vehicles'' can fly away or run away at supersonic speeds and escape with little damage.		There are often also comments along the lines of "it is possible to counter the Bonesinger building lockdown/ranged unit disruption/teleportation trolling by doing xyz". While technically true, that sort of thinking also overlooks the fact that you need advanced knowledge of how your faction and the Eldar faction work in order to not get screwed over by their freaking ''builder unit''. Yes, you can counter Eldar units if you know exactly what you're doing and they don't, but that level of skill disparity would result in a curbstomp battle against anyone but the Eldar. There are also Eldar players who say their faction isn't overpowered because, for example, their ranged specialists do little damage in melee. This is technically true, but with the Eldar there's always some catch - in this case, their elite infantry are so durable as to be par with Terminators and almost all of their infantry ''and vehicles'' can fly away or run away at supersonic speeds and escape with little damage.

1d4chan>Triacom: Undo revision 731111 by 62.181.50.247 (talk) - Do not argue on the main page.

2020-12-23T03:03:36Z

Undo revision 731111 by 62.181.50.247 (talk) - Do not argue on the main page.

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	**Surprisingly the Avatar isn't that good at killing enemies with Commander level armor. He certainly hits hard but it'll take forever and in that time he'll likely be targeted by several other squads while he's made to kill the commander. The thing is, he'll usually be back at base in the first place, whilst the Eldar Player abuses his passives, which specifically enable the Eldar to field a more numerous army.		**Surprisingly the Avatar isn't that good at killing enemies with Commander level armor. He certainly hits hard but it'll take forever and in that time he'll likely be targeted by several other squads while he's made to kill the commander. The thing is, he'll usually be back at base in the first place, whilst the Eldar Player abuses his passives, which specifically enable the Eldar to field a more numerous army.
	***His extra effects aside, direct combat-wise, he is one of the weaker Relic Units in the game, consistently being beaten by other Relic Units on average. Which is why he's best suited as a support unit in players bases.		***His extra effects aside, direct combat-wise, he is one of the weaker Relic Units in the game, consistently being beaten by other Relic Units on average. Which is why he's best suited as a support unit in players bases.
	****Well, that's just not true, as only Greater Knarloc and Nightbringer (who is completely invincible) can kill him consistently 1v1. The Bloodfirster and all vehicle-type Relic Units will lose in a straight-up fight on average.

	===Vyper===		===Vyper===

62.181.50.247: /* Avatar of Khaine */

2020-12-23T03:01:09Z

Avatar of Khaine

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	**Surprisingly the Avatar isn't that good at killing enemies with Commander level armor. He certainly hits hard but it'll take forever and in that time he'll likely be targeted by several other squads while he's made to kill the commander. The thing is, he'll usually be back at base in the first place, whilst the Eldar Player abuses his passives, which specifically enable the Eldar to field a more numerous army.		**Surprisingly the Avatar isn't that good at killing enemies with Commander level armor. He certainly hits hard but it'll take forever and in that time he'll likely be targeted by several other squads while he's made to kill the commander. The thing is, he'll usually be back at base in the first place, whilst the Eldar Player abuses his passives, which specifically enable the Eldar to field a more numerous army.
	***His extra effects aside, direct combat-wise, he is one of the weaker Relic Units in the game, consistently being beaten by other Relic Units on average. Which is why he's best suited as a support unit in players bases.		***His extra effects aside, direct combat-wise, he is one of the weaker Relic Units in the game, consistently being beaten by other Relic Units on average. Which is why he's best suited as a support unit in players bases.
			****Well, that's just not true, as only Greater Knarloc and Nightbringer (who is completely invincible) can kill him consistently 1v1. The Bloodfirster and all vehicle-type Relic Units will lose in a straight-up fight on average.

	===Vyper===		===Vyper===

71.209.89.106: /* Eldar Support Platform */

2020-09-08T02:50:07Z

Eldar Support Platform

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	* Damage vs, infantry by the D-Cannon is almost nil, but due to how damage tabulates against squads, it does enormous morale damage.		* Damage vs, infantry by the D-Cannon is almost nil, but due to how damage tabulates against squads, it does enormous morale damage.
	** To elaborate, it does about 15 morale damage to most units, not counting mitigation. However, it does this in a massive range, so the morale damage hit hits everyone in the squad. For an 8-man squad, this is about 120 morale damage, or almost 50% of a Chaos Marine Squad's max morale. In one shot.		** To elaborate, it does about 15 morale damage to most units, not counting mitigation. However, it does this in a massive range, so the morale damage hit hits everyone in the squad. For an 8-man squad, this is about 120 morale damage, or almost 50% of a Chaos Marine Squad's max morale. In one shot.
	**This still isn't that bad though because it excels at killing vehicles, not infantry, if there's a vehicle than it's either not shooting at the squad who get to move on/blow it up, or it's not shooting at the vehicle who gets to blow it up.		**This still isn't that bad though because it excels at killing vehicles, not infantry, if there's a vehicle than it's either not shooting at the squad who get to move on/blow it up, or it's not shooting at the vehicle who gets to blow it up. Except that morale is extremely important.

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71.209.89.106: /* Nightwing */

2020-09-08T02:47:06Z

Nightwing

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	* Also gets a HP regen upgrade that lets it regenerate 10 HP/second. This is upgraded to 40/sec with Healing Waystation.		* Also gets a HP regen upgrade that lets it regenerate 10 HP/second. This is upgraded to 40/sec with Healing Waystation.
	** What makes this thing overpowered is its insanely fast HP regeneration that enables it to go from almost no HP to full in under a minute. This makes Nightwings incredibly effective harass units, that, if carefully micromanaged, are ludicrously difficult to kill. They're tough enough to survive going over even a lot of anti-vehicle damage, and, provided they survive at all, can be back in the fight in under a minute.		** What makes this thing overpowered is its insanely fast HP regeneration that enables it to go from almost no HP to full in under a minute. This makes Nightwings incredibly effective harass units, that, if carefully micromanaged, are ludicrously difficult to kill. They're tough enough to survive going over even a lot of anti-vehicle damage, and, provided they survive at all, can be back in the fight in under a minute.
	***The main thing keeping the Nightwing from being a ''much'' worse issue is that it's solely an anti-~~Infantry~~ unit.		***The main thing keeping the Nightwing from being a ''much'' worse issue is that it's solely an anti-air unit that happens to be effective against infantry due to its specific weapons. It's still unbalanced from the options other factions have.

	===Shuriken Grav Platform===		===Shuriken Grav Platform===