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70.130.187.92: /* The Zak Smith Rewrite */

2022-11-21T21:13:09Z

The Zak Smith Rewrite

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	Before Zak Smith got ~~into trouble for a long history~~ of abuse, he collaborated with Raggi to do a second draft of the module. While some of the most-infamous problems are cleaned up (and while the latter half of the dungeon is expanded on to produce some interesting political struggles between the inhabitants), the core experience is basically the same. And while some of the mean-spirited jokes are removed, most of them were just replaced with other mean-spirited jokes, including an entire page that basically insults your musical taste.		Before Zak Smith got accused of abuse, he collaborated with Raggi to do a second draft of the module. While some of the most-infamous problems are cleaned up (and while the latter half of the dungeon is expanded on to produce some interesting political struggles between the inhabitants), the core experience is basically the same. And while some of the mean-spirited jokes are removed, most of them were just replaced with other mean-spirited jokes, including an entire page that basically insults your musical taste.

	[[Category:Roleplaying]]		[[Category:Roleplaying]]
	[[Category:Modules]]		[[Category:Modules]]
	[[Category: Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]		[[Category: Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]

2001:8003:1C20:8C00:A93C:6F03:2E58:E841: /* The cave */

2022-06-24T09:26:32Z

The cave

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	For some reason there's also an alternative entrance to the dungeon that's supposed to be nearly impossible to discover (and that players would need to spend in-game weeks searching for unless they speak to the dead, which has its own dickery) that bypasses the vast majority of the dungeon (including the dead rising) and nearly all of the danger, to serve as an ''exit'' once the party trips the trap.		For some reason there's also an alternative entrance to the dungeon that's supposed to be nearly impossible to discover (and that players would need to spend in-game weeks searching for unless they speak to the dead, which has its own dickery) that bypasses the vast majority of the dungeon (including the dead rising) and nearly all of the danger, to serve as an ''exit'' once the party trips the trap.

	The module ends with an account of just how many goddamn zombies the party just reanimated, and that the surroundings are probably fucked.		The module ends with an account of just how many goddamn zombies the party just reanimated (10 000 odd, give or take), and that the surroundings are probably fucked.

	There is then a small bonus adventure.		There is then a small bonus adventure.

1d4chan>2DLove: /* The adventure */ typo

2021-12-09T22:59:19Z

The adventure: typo

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	A long time ago, an evil cult has taken home on top of a mountain. They are long gone now, but the place is still haunted. The adventure ~~begin~~ with the party hearing about it, and deciding to investigate.		A long time ago, an evil cult has taken home on top of a mountain. They are long gone now, but the place is still haunted. The adventure begins with the party hearing about it, and deciding to investigate.

	The first part of the module is the actual trek to the house that serve as an entrance for the cult stronghold. The second part is the inside of the house, and the third part is the cave beneath the house (the actual place were the cult members were doing their thing).		The first part of the module is the actual trek to the house that serve as an entrance for the cult stronghold. The second part is the inside of the house, and the third part is the cave beneath the house (the actual place were the cult members were doing their thing).

1d4chan>Triacom: - I am adding this bit back in because it highlights how Raggi considers other people's enjoyment secondary to his own. He's not there to get them to have a fun time, he's there to take players along while he has fun.

2021-07-12T23:38:18Z

- I am adding this bit back in because it highlights how Raggi considers other people's enjoyment secondary to his own. He's not there to get them to have a fun time, he's there to take players along while he has fun.

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	{{Topquote\|I’ve personally only run this adventure, both in its combined finished form and its original separate parts, for characters 3rd level or less. However, I suspect the main issues will remain challenging through sixth level, and there is one reason: At 7th level, spellcasters gain the ability to speak with plants. While it may be unlikely that players think to use this at its most opportune time, doing so effectively turns this adventure into a mapping expedition in an odd location rather than an adventure where participants will stare death in the eye. Even without that concern, when one gets to the higher levels, the ability to stand and fight becomes a viable, survivable option, and by the nature of the foes I would expect this to be terribly unexciting to play out.\|James Edward Raggi IV, seen here actively trying to get the DM to run the campaign in a way that leaves the players no chance of success.}}		{{Topquote\|I’ve personally only run this adventure, both in its combined finished form and its original separate parts, for characters 3rd level or less. However, I suspect the main issues will remain challenging through sixth level, and there is one reason: At 7th level, spellcasters gain the ability to speak with plants. While it may be unlikely that players think to use this at its most opportune time, doing so effectively turns this adventure into a mapping expedition in an odd location rather than an adventure where participants will stare death in the eye. Even without that concern, when one gets to the higher levels, the ability to stand and fight becomes a viable, survivable option, and by the nature of the foes I would expect this to be terribly unexciting to play out.\|James Edward Raggi IV, seen here actively trying to get the DM to run the campaign in a way that leaves the players no chance of success, and considering battles, exploration, looting and shit to be "unexciting".}}

	'''Death Frost Doom''' is a module for ''[[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]'', written by James Edward Raggi IV. The adventurers will explore a cave that was used as a place of worship by an evil cult long ago. They will also die, either due to a death trap or boredom.		'''Death Frost Doom''' is a module for ''[[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]'', written by James Edward Raggi IV. The adventurers will explore a cave that was used as a place of worship by an evil cult long ago. They will also die, either due to a death trap or boredom.

1d4chan>SpectralTime: /* A small bonus adventure */

2021-07-12T01:00:37Z

A small bonus adventure

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	The door is guarded by an intimidating looking but feeble and tired old creature, which keeps being resurrected to continue this charade unless someone throws ''bless'' on the thing that contains the final boss. The door [[Gotcha Monster\| is actually a shapeshifting monster that attacks and devours anyone who doesn't have the key]].		The door is guarded by an intimidating looking but feeble and tired old creature, which keeps being resurrected to continue this charade unless someone throws ''bless'' on the thing that contains the final boss. The door [[Gotcha Monster\| is actually a shapeshifting monster that attacks and devours anyone who doesn't have the key]].

	From there, the rest of the dungeon spins a yarn about a princess in the top of the tower, and how wealth, glory, and princess booty awaits one who deliberately strips off all his ~~gear~~, throws it in a suspiciously-full bin loaded with what looks a lot like the gear of many previous adventurers, and then walks past the creepy, well-armed bone golem guards (because Raggi gives them all the advantages of being undead and also makes them immune to being turned) to the top of the tower. One at a time, in single-file only please.		From there, the rest of the dungeon spins a yarn about a princess in the top of the tower, and how wealth, glory, and princess booty awaits one who deliberately strips off all his weapons and armor, throws it in a suspiciously-full bin loaded with what looks a lot like the decaying gear of many previous adventurers, and then walks past the creepy, well-armed bone golem guards (because Raggi gives them all the advantages of being undead and also makes them immune to being turned) to the top of the tower. One at a time, in single-file only please.

	Naturally, as all but the most-dis-embrained have probably gathered from the incredibly-obvious signs that others have gone through this rigmarole before, and the profusion of rats that keep getting mentioned who must have some kind of food source, it's a trap, and the sarcophagous on the top floor, surrounded by broken glass (too much to have come from the fallen chandelier in the room with her) so anyone walking up to it will make lots of noise, contains a wight who attacks anyone that opens it, gets automatic surprise if they're somehow dumb enough to buy into this trap, and drags their souls off to be tortured by a dark god for all eternity when she kills them. The only way to prevent everything from restoring itself after they leave even if the adventurers figure out they're being played and kill everything is to ''bless'' her sarcophagus after killing her.		Naturally, as all but the most-dis-embrained have probably gathered from the incredibly-obvious signs that others have gone through this rigmarole before, and the profusion of rats that keep getting mentioned who must have some kind of food source, it's a trap, and the sarcophagous on the top floor, surrounded by broken glass (too much to have come from the fallen chandelier in the room with her) so anyone walking up to it will make lots of noise, contains a wight who attacks anyone that opens it, gets automatic surprise if they're somehow dumb enough to buy into this trap, and drags their souls off to be tortured by a dark god for all eternity when she kills them. The only way to prevent everything from restoring itself after they leave even if the adventurers figure out they're being played and kill everything is to ''bless'' her sarcophagus after killing her.

1d4chan>SpectralTime: /* The cave */

2021-07-12T00:56:30Z

The cave

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	The underground are a realistically laid out catacomb (minus the screaming faces) that is loaded down with risk free treasure. ~~One that pretty much is risk free.~~ Yay. Also cursed treasure that gives you permanent disadvantage on your attack rolls, no save. Yay. The stuff's also set in an area with an organ that has the "deadly yellow mold" inside of it, which of course you find out by playing it. Doing this results in everyone either nearby or in the entire room to test vs poison or die, because it wouldn't be Raggi without TPK's handed out like a normal DM hands out loot.		The underground are a realistically laid out catacomb (minus the screaming faces) that is loaded down with genuinely risk-free treasure. Yay. Also, cursed treasure that gives you permanent disadvantage on your attack rolls, no save, and is described no differently from the risk-free treasure. Yay. The stuff's also set in an area with an organ that has the "deadly yellow mold" inside of it, which of course you find out by playing it. Doing this results in everyone either nearby or in the entire room to test vs poison or die, because it wouldn't be Raggi without TPK's handed out like a normal DM hands out loot.

	Finally, after all the bullshit (and there's a shitload of it that isn't even mentioned here, like needing to save vs spells or be unable to receive magical healing ever again), you meet a plant making that creepy noise you've been hearing since you entered. The plant bars forward progress, and trying to get past in physical body will destroy it. If the plant dies, within a few rounds, every corpse on the mountain arises as a zombie and tries to kill the party, and there are ''tens of thousands'' of the fuckers. Also, turn undead doesn't work on them because fuck you. It's about here that the "realism" of the dungeon's layout kind of breaks down, since the rest of it's built around the assumption players will trip the undead trap and doom everything.		Finally, after all the bullshit (and there's a shitload of it that isn't even mentioned here, like needing to save vs spells or be unable to receive magical healing ever again), you meet a plant making that creepy noise you've been hearing since you entered. The plant bars forward progress, and trying to get past in physical body will destroy it. If the plant dies, within a few rounds, every corpse on the mountain arises as a zombie and tries to kill the party, and there are ''tens of thousands'' of the fuckers. Also, turn undead doesn't work on them because fuck you. It's about here that the "realism" of the dungeon's layout kind of breaks down, since the rest of it's built around the assumption players will trip the undead trap and doom everything.

1d4chan>SpectralTime: /* The Zak Smith Rewrite */

2021-07-12T00:16:19Z

The Zak Smith Rewrite

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	==The Zak Smith Rewrite==		==The Zak Smith Rewrite==

	Before Zak Smith got into trouble for a long history of abuse, he collaborated with Raggi to do a second draft of the module. While some of the most-infamous problems are cleaned up (and while the latter half of the dungeon is expanded on to produce some interesting political struggles between the inhabitants), the core experience is basically the same.		Before Zak Smith got into trouble for a long history of abuse, he collaborated with Raggi to do a second draft of the module. While some of the most-infamous problems are cleaned up (and while the latter half of the dungeon is expanded on to produce some interesting political struggles between the inhabitants), the core experience is basically the same. And while some of the mean-spirited jokes are removed, most of them were just replaced with other mean-spirited jokes, including an entire page that basically insults your musical taste.

	[[Category:Roleplaying]]		[[Category:Roleplaying]]
	[[Category:Modules]]		[[Category:Modules]]
	[[Category: Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]		[[Category: Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]

1d4chan>SpectralTime: In tentative fairness to a man who might not deserve it, fighting a neverending horde of zombies until they're all dead ''does'' sound kind of boring.

2021-07-12T00:14:52Z

In tentative fairness to a man who might not deserve it, fighting a neverending horde of zombies until they're all dead ''does'' sound kind of boring.

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	{{Topquote\|I’ve personally only run this adventure, both in its combined finished form and its original separate parts, for characters 3rd level or less. However, I suspect the main issues will remain challenging through sixth level, and there is one reason: At 7th level, spellcasters gain the ability to speak with plants. While it may be unlikely that players think to use this at its most opportune time, doing so effectively turns this adventure into a mapping expedition in an odd location rather than an adventure where participants will stare death in the eye. Even without that concern, when one gets to the higher levels, the ability to stand and fight becomes a viable, survivable option, and by the nature of the foes I would expect this to be terribly unexciting to play out.\|James Edward Raggi IV, seen here actively trying to get the DM to run the campaign in a way that leaves the players no chance of success~~, and considering battles, exploration, looting and shit to be "unexciting"~~.}}		{{Topquote\|I’ve personally only run this adventure, both in its combined finished form and its original separate parts, for characters 3rd level or less. However, I suspect the main issues will remain challenging through sixth level, and there is one reason: At 7th level, spellcasters gain the ability to speak with plants. While it may be unlikely that players think to use this at its most opportune time, doing so effectively turns this adventure into a mapping expedition in an odd location rather than an adventure where participants will stare death in the eye. Even without that concern, when one gets to the higher levels, the ability to stand and fight becomes a viable, survivable option, and by the nature of the foes I would expect this to be terribly unexciting to play out.\|James Edward Raggi IV, seen here actively trying to get the DM to run the campaign in a way that leaves the players no chance of success.}}

	'''Death Frost Doom''' is a module for ''[[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]'', written by James Edward Raggi IV. The adventurers will explore a cave that was used as a place of worship by an evil cult long ago. They will also die, either due to a death trap or boredom.		'''Death Frost Doom''' is a module for ''[[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]]'', written by James Edward Raggi IV. The adventurers will explore a cave that was used as a place of worship by an evil cult long ago. They will also die, either due to a death trap or boredom.