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1d4chan>Skadooshbag: /* The Dragonboobs Controversy */

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The Dragonboobs Controversy

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	The meme is still around today, but people got used to it and so it's a fairly tired meme at this point. Most people legitimately don't give a shit anymore, and are more likely to complain about the dragonborn's lack of a tail.		The meme is still around today, but people got used to it and so it's a fairly tired meme at this point. Most people legitimately don't give a shit anymore, and are more likely to complain about the dragonborn's lack of a tail.

			As of 5e, dragonborn seem to have been de-retconned back into ''boobless'' reptiles.
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	===Variant Dragonborn===		===Variant Dragonborn===
	The first real variant dragonborn came with [[Critical Role]]'s unique variant race of Ravenite Dragonborn. While initially penned in Matt Mercer's ''Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting'', Wizards would not only make their own version of the Ravenites, but also port over the ~~DRaconblood~~ subrace as well.		The first real variant dragonborn came with [[Critical Role]]'s unique variant race of Ravenite Dragonborn. While initially penned in Matt Mercer's ''Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting'', Wizards would not only make their own version of the Ravenites in ''Explorer's Guide to Wildemount'', but also port over the Draconblood subrace as well.

	'''Draconblood Dragonborn'''		'''Draconblood Dragonborn'''

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	This take on the race is... bizarre. The improvements to the breath weapon are welcome, as they do a lot to make the ability more uniform ''and'' more uniformly ''useful,'' but the Chromatic Dragonborn's third level ability is pretty blatantly more situational than the Metallic Dragonborn's, and the Gem Dragonborn's is ''crazy'' useful compared to either of the other two. All in all it still has its flaws, but it's still a ''massive'' and much-needed improvement over the PHB Dragonborn.		This take on the race is... bizarre. The improvements to the breath weapon are welcome, as they do a lot to make the ability more uniform ''and'' more uniformly ''useful,'' but the Chromatic Dragonborn's third level ability is pretty blatantly more situational than the Metallic Dragonborn's, and the Gem Dragonborn's is ''crazy'' useful compared to either of the other two. All in all it still has its flaws, but it's still a ''massive'' and much-needed improvement over the PHB Dragonborn.

			===Other Alternatives to Vanilla Dragonborn===
			The fanmade [[Anchorome]] setting introduces a new dragonborn subrace, the '''Tanarvraki''', who are descended from Mirage Dragons (a [[Planar Dragon]] native to the [[Feywild]] descended from [[Chromatic Dragon\|Green Dragon]] stock). These dragonborn have Psychic Damage Resistance and their Breath Weapon is a 15ft cone that does Psychic Damage and is resisted with a Wisdom save.

			In [[Midgard]], dragonborn are known as '''Dragonkin''', and are the foremost race serving the dragon rulers of the Mharoti Empire. Their origins are unknown, but they resent any implication that they might bear humanoid blood. They have a unique statblock, which currently can only be found in the ''Midgard Heroes'' splatbook; a small races collection that also includes the [[Alseid]], [[Centaur]], [[Elf\|Elves]] and [[Half-Elf\|Elfmarked]], [[Gearforged]], [[Darakhul]] Ghouls, [[Kobold]]s, [[Minotaur]]s, [[Ravenfolk]], [[Shadow Fey]] and [[Trollkin]]. Midgard Dragonborn are divided into four elemental subraces (Flame/Fire, Storm/Wind, Stone/Cave and Wave/Tide) and a mixed-breed subrace commonly called the "Edjet" or "Soldier" subrace. These Dragonborn gain Darkvision and Proficiency in Persuasion over the standard version, have a stat bonus of +2 Charisma/+1 by subrace, and swap their breath weapon for a Charisma-based cantrip determined by subrace, although they still have Energy Resistance determined by subrace.
			* '''Flame/Fire Dragonkin''' get +1 Strength, can cast Produce Flame, and are Resistant to Fire.
			* '''Storm/Wind Dragonkin''' get +1 Intelligence, can cast Shocking Grasp, and are Resistant to Lightning.
			* '''Stone/Cave Dragonkin''' get +1 Constitution, can cast Blade Ward, and are Resistant to Acid.
			* '''Wave/Tide Dragonkin''' get +1 Wisdom, can cast Poison Spray, and are Resistant to Cold.
			* '''Edjet Dragonkin''' gain +1 Dexterity, can cast Shillelagh, and are Resistant to Poison.

	==The Dragonboobs Controversy==		==The Dragonboobs Controversy==

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	===Variant Dragonborn===		===Variant Dragonborn===
	~~Introduced~~ in the April 2021 issue of [[Unearthed Arcana]]~~, this~~ new version of the dragonborn does away with that whole homogenized scale color thing, opting for a closer resemblance to their ancestors. Also, instead of being one race, it's now ''three'': the [[Chromatic Dragon]]born, the [[Metallic Dragon]]born, and — perhaps most shockingly — ''[[Gem Dragon\|Gem]]'' Dragonborn. These would later be officially released in ''Fizban's Treasury of Dragons''.		The first real variant dragonborn came with [[Critical Role]]'s unique variant race of Ravenite Dragonborn. While initially penned in Matt Mercer's ''Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting'', Wizards would not only make their own version of the Ravenites, but also port over the DRaconblood subrace as well.

			'''Draconblood Dragonborn'''
			::Ability Score Modifier: +2 to Charisma, +1 to Intelligence
			::Creature Type: Humanoid
			::Size: Medium
			::Speed: 30 feet
			::Chromatic Ancestry: As before
			::Draconic Resistance: As before, you resist the element associated with your Ancestry
			::Breath Weapon: As before
			::Forceful Presence: You can gain advantage on an Persuasion and Intimidation check once per rest.

			'''Ravenite Dragonborn'''
			::Ability Score Modifier: +2 to Strength, +1 to Constitution
			::Creature Type: Humanoid
			::Size: Medium
			::Speed: 30 feet
			::Chromatic Ancestry: As before
			::Draconic Resistance: As before, you resist the element associated with your Ancestry
			::Breath Weapon: As before
			::Vengeful Assault: Once per rest, you can immediately counter-attack right after getting hit by an enemy within reach of your weapon.

			A sort-of revamp of the race would be introduced in the April 2021 issue of [[Unearthed Arcana]]. This new version of the dragonborn does away with that whole homogenized scale color thing, opting for a closer resemblance to their ancestors. Also, instead of being one race, it's now ''three'': the [[Chromatic Dragon]]born, the [[Metallic Dragon]]born, and — perhaps most shockingly — ''[[Gem Dragon\|Gem]]'' Dragonborn. These would later be officially released in ''Fizban's Treasury of Dragons''.

	'''Chromatic Dragonborn'''		'''Chromatic Dragonborn'''
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	::Size: Medium		::Size: Medium
	::Speed: 30 feet		::Speed: 30 feet
	::Chromatic Ancestry: As before, Black (acid), Blue (lightning), Green (poison), Red (fire), or White (cold).		::Chromatic Ancestry: As before, Black (acid), Blue (lightning), Green (poison), Red (fire), or White (cold)
	::Draconic Resistance: As before, you resist the element associated with your Ancestry		::Draconic Resistance: As before, you resist the element associated with your Ancestry
	::Breath Weapon: As a Chromatic Dragonborn, regardless of your element, your breath weapon takes the form of a 30 ft line that is 5 ft wide. It's a Dex save against 8 + Con mod + proficiency. The four key differences are that it can now replace ''one'' of your attacks instead of requiring an action of its own, it does ''2d8'' damage instead of 2d6, it scales up by one die at levels 5, 11, and 17, and—most importantly—you can use it a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest, instead of once per short rest.		::Breath Weapon: As a Chromatic Dragonborn, regardless of your element, your breath weapon takes the form of a 30 ft line that is 5 ft wide. It's a Dex save against 8 + Con mod + proficiency. The four key differences are that it can now replace ''one'' of your attacks instead of requiring an action of its own, it does ''2d8'' damage instead of 2d6, it scales up by one die at levels 5, 11, and 17, and—most importantly—you can use it a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest, instead of once per short rest.
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	::Size: Medium		::Size: Medium
	::Speed: 30 feet		::Speed: 30 feet
	::Metallic Ancestry: As before, Brass (fire), Bronze (lightning), Copper (acid), Gold (also fire), or Silver (cold).		::Metallic Ancestry: As before, Brass (fire), Bronze (lightning), Copper (acid), Gold (also fire), or Silver (cold)
	::Draconic Resistance: As above		::Draconic Resistance: As above
	::Breath Weapon: All the same changes as above, except your breath weapon is always a 15 ft cone		::Breath Weapon: All the same changes as above, except your breath weapon is always a 15 ft cone
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	::Size: Medium		::Size: Medium
	::Speed: 30 feet		::Speed: 30 feet
	::Gem Ancestry: Choose Amethyst (force), Crystal (radiant), Emerald (psychic), Sapphire (thunder), or Topaz (necrotic).		::Gem Ancestry: Choose Amethyst (force), Crystal (radiant), Emerald (psychic), Sapphire (thunder), or Topaz (necrotic)
	::Draconic Resistance: As above		::Draconic Resistance: As above
	::Breath Weapon: Same as the Metallic Dragonborn's regular breath weapon		::Breath Weapon: Same as the Metallic Dragonborn's regular breath weapon
	::Psionic Mind: GOOlock's Awakened Mind, but this time it specifies that the creature can't respond.		::Psionic Mind: GOOlock's Awakened Mind, but this time it specifies that the creature can't respond
	::Gem Flight: At 3rd level, once per long rest, you can use a bonus action to let give yourself a flying speed equal to your walking speed and the ability to hover for 1 minute. FTD delays this to level 5.		::Gem Flight: At 3rd level, once per long rest, you can use a bonus action to let give yourself a flying speed equal to your walking speed and the ability to hover for 1 minute. FTD delays this to level 5.

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 When first introduced, Dragonborn were characters who started out as some other race, became furries, and took their furry fandom so far that they paid for a race-change operation. As a distinctive race in their own right, Dragonborn have only existed since 4th Edition. However, the idea of a playable humanoid dragon actually goes back a lot further into D&D's history - all the way to [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], in fact.
-On /tg/, dragonborn tend to be a Love 'Em or Hate 'Em sort of race. Many people love them because they're a proud warrior race with a distinctly different theme to them than the traditional [[dwarf]], or because they're a great choice for a "Bruiser" character that lacks the pigeonholing stats and/or creepy fluff of the [[half-orc]], or just because they find the basic idea of a playable dragon character that you don't have to wrestle around [[Level Adjustment]] to be just inherently awesome. Just as many people hate them for being a "special snowflake" race like the [[tiefling]], or having no precedent in AD&D, or commit the guilt-by-association fallacy by being annoyed that they were introduced in a [[4e| controversial edition of the game]], or for not being [[lizardfolk]], or or for having objectively poor stats in 5e, or for just not fitting the neo-Tolkien lineup of races.
+On /tg/, dragonborn tend to be a Love 'Em or Hate 'Em sort of race. Many people love them because they're a proud warrior race with a distinctly different theme to them than the traditional [[dwarf]], or because they're a great choice for a "Bruiser" character that lacks the pigeonholing stats and/or creepy fluff of the [[half-orc]], or just because they find the basic idea of a playable dragon character that you don't have to wrestle around [[Level Adjustment]] to be just inherently awesome. Just as many people hate them for being a "special snowflake" race like the [[tiefling]], or having no precedent in AD&D, or commit the guilt-by-association fallacy by being annoyed that they were popularized in a [[4e| controversial edition of the game]], or for not being [[lizardfolk]], or or for having objectively poor stats in 5e, or for just not fitting the neo-Tolkien lineup of races.
 But, no matter what /tg/ thinks, Dragonborn seem to be here for the long haul, and truthfully they have gotten more popular with time. The loss of hatred is probably helped by the fact that Dragonborn fill a previously unfilled niche: Satisfying the "I wanna play a dragon!" itch without otherwise unbalancing the base game the way that [[Half-Dragon]]s and the dragon "racial classes" did in earlier editions.
-WARNING: although Dragonborn are one very specific race out of many dragon-like races, and although this article is titled "Dragonborn", 1d4channers have apparently decided to just throw all the dragonlike races together on this page because we're lazy. Except [[Kobolds]], which have their own page in addition to being mentioned here.
+WARNING: Dragonborn are one very specific race out of many dragon-like races. They are not to be confused with [[Dragonkin]], [[Draconian]]s, [[Dray]], Dragonwrought [[Kobolds]], [[Half-dragon]]s, [[Spellscale]]s, etc.
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 Of course all this was pointless because 3.5 also had cheese incarnate in Dragonwrought [[Kobold]]s.
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 This take on the race is... bizarre. The improvements to the breath weapon are welcome, as they do a lot to make the ability more uniform ''and'' more uniformly ''useful,'' but the Chromatic Dragonborn's third level ability is pretty blatantly more situational than the Metallic Dragonborn's, and the Gem Dragonborn's is ''crazy'' useful compared to either of the other two. All in all it still has its flaws, but it's still a ''massive'' and much-needed improvement over the PHB Dragonborn.
 ==The Dragonboobs Controversy==

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	But, no matter what /tg/ thinks, Dragonborn seem to be here for the long haul, and truthfully they have gotten more popular with time. The loss of hatred is probably helped by the fact that Dragonborn fill a previously unfilled niche: Satisfying the "I wanna play a dragon!" itch without otherwise unbalancing the base game the way that [[Half-Dragon]]s and the dragon "racial classes" did in earlier editions.		But, no matter what /tg/ thinks, Dragonborn seem to be here for the long haul, and truthfully they have gotten more popular with time. The loss of hatred is probably helped by the fact that Dragonborn fill a previously unfilled niche: Satisfying the "I wanna play a dragon!" itch without otherwise unbalancing the base game the way that [[Half-Dragon]]s and the dragon "racial classes" did in earlier editions.

			WARNING: although Dragonborn are one very specific race out of many dragon-like races, and although this article is titled "Dragonborn", 1d4channers have apparently decided to just throw all the dragonlike races together on this page because we're lazy. Except [[Kobolds]], which have their own page in addition to being mentioned here.

	==Dragonborn in 2nd Ed==		==Dragonborn in 2nd Ed==