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How Can I Tell If My Character Is An Edgelord?

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	** A word of advice: this can actually work without being edgy. It's just that the decision needs to ''be hard''. It needs to have narrative and emotional weight, and it should have problems in either solution, as opposed to being used as an excuse to wank about how it's a hard world and it's a good thing hard men like the MC exist to make things work. <ref>A good example of this is [[Crimson_Fists#Overview\|Pedro Kantor's decision to carry a civilian mother and her children to safety ''despite'' knowing they'll slow the Crimson Fists down and put their few survivors at greater risk]] - rather than take the "hard" decision of listening to his tactical senses and abandoning them to die, he makes the ''difficult'' decision to do the morally right thing because his ''moral'' senses are going "Your duty is to defend the Emperor's people, including this family. And if it's difficult, so fucking what? You're an Astartes - you were created for this kind of thing." This does indeed cause him problems later on, but that is exactly the point - most "hard decisions" are too easy and consequence-free, with no evidence that the "hard decision" was even all that necessary in the first place.</ref>		** A word of advice: this can actually work without being edgy. It's just that the decision needs to ''be hard''. It needs to have narrative and emotional weight, and it should have problems in either solution, as opposed to being used as an excuse to wank about how it's a hard world and it's a good thing hard men like the MC exist to make things work. <ref>A good example of this is [[Crimson_Fists#Overview\|Pedro Kantor's decision to carry a civilian mother and her children to safety ''despite'' knowing they'll slow the Crimson Fists down and put their few survivors at greater risk]] - rather than take the "hard" decision of listening to his tactical senses and abandoning them to die, he makes the ''difficult'' decision to do the morally right thing because his ''moral'' senses are going "Your duty is to defend the Emperor's people, including this family. And if it's difficult, so fucking what? You're an Astartes - you were created for this kind of thing." This does indeed cause him problems later on, but that is exactly the point - most "hard decisions" are too easy and consequence-free, with no evidence that the "hard decision" was even all that necessary in the first place.</ref>
	* Do they have a tendency toward "makes gratuitously violent choice because pragmatic hurr durr" behaviour?		* Do they have a tendency toward "makes gratuitously violent choice because pragmatic hurr durr" behaviour?

			Divide your points in half if the character is clearly either a villain or wrong as far as the narrative is concerned.

	When you have enough of these points in a character, congratulations (or not), the character is an edgelord. (One or two is fine)		When you have enough of these points in a character, congratulations (or not), the character is an edgelord. (One or two is fine)

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	===Literature===		===Literature===
	* [['''Elric''']] of Melnibone, arguably the first one.		* '''[[Elric]]''' of Melnibone, arguably the first one.
	* '''Euron Greyjoy''', '''Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish''', and '''Ramsay Bolton''' from [[A Song of Ice and Fire]]. There are many minor examples as well, notably Tyrion Lannister after he gets fucked over.		* '''Euron Greyjoy''', '''Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish''', and '''Ramsay Bolton''' from [[A Song of Ice and Fire]]. There are many minor examples as well, notably Tyrion Lannister after he gets fucked over.
	* '''Hamlet''' (yes, THAT Hamlet), possibly an example predating Elric. After his father dies dies, he wears black, becomes foreboding, dramatic and revenge obsessed for at least 6 months, monologues with skulls and murders his friends including the harmless father of his girlfriend (though to be fair he thought he might've been stabbing his father's killer).		* '''Hamlet''' (yes, THAT Hamlet), possibly an example predating Elric. After his father dies dies, he wears black, becomes foreboding, dramatic and revenge obsessed for at least 6 months, monologues with skulls and murders his friends including the harmless father of his girlfriend (though to be fair he thought he might've been stabbing his father's killer).

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Notable Edgelords

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Notable NOT Edgelords

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	* '''Rorschach''' (Watchmen): Uncompromising vigilante with a traumatic childhood, and as close as you can get to edgelord without actually deserving the label<ref>In part because many Edgelord authors who came after were heavily inspired by ''Watchmen'', and Rorschach in particular.</ref>. Following a horrifying end to a kidnapping case, Rorschach lives by a set of moral absolutes and would rather watch everything burn than compromise on those absolutes. When Ozymandias destroys most of New York with a fake alien invasion (original story)/then frames Dr Manhattan for it (movie adaptation), Rorschach sees how the lie serves everyone's interests, but still plans to bring the lie down, demanding that Doctor Manhattan kill him if he wants to accept that resolution. Part of what makes him not an Edgelord is that the story of Watchmen runs on moral ambiguity; one of the central questions of the end of Watchmen is whether the antagonist of the work was correct in his calculation that murdering millions of people to save billions was necessary, or would even work as intended.		* '''Rorschach''' (Watchmen): Uncompromising vigilante with a traumatic childhood, and as close as you can get to edgelord without actually deserving the label<ref>In part because many Edgelord authors who came after were heavily inspired by ''Watchmen'', and Rorschach in particular.</ref>. Following a horrifying end to a kidnapping case, Rorschach lives by a set of moral absolutes and would rather watch everything burn than compromise on those absolutes. When Ozymandias destroys most of New York with a fake alien invasion (original story)/then frames Dr Manhattan for it (movie adaptation), Rorschach sees how the lie serves everyone's interests, but still plans to bring the lie down, demanding that Doctor Manhattan kill him if he wants to accept that resolution. Part of what makes him not an Edgelord is that the story of Watchmen runs on moral ambiguity; one of the central questions of the end of Watchmen is whether the antagonist of the work was correct in his calculation that murdering millions of people to save billions was necessary, or would even work as intended.

	* '''Prince Zuko''' (Avatar:The Last Airbender): Scarred prince in exile with fire magic and anger issues. Comes extremely close at times, but is not because he only ~~transitions from working~~ against "The Man" after his sister is ordered to hunt him down. While he does have the mold of "extremely angry", his anger stems from his perceived failure and dishonor, a goal he is trying to rectify. There's also lines Zuko won't cross, even at his lowest point (like not stealing food from a pregnant woman to feed himself when starving). He is not mad at all society and humankind, though ~~as stated,~~ he comes very close at times. And having accepted the chance at being healed and friendship by the "Gaang", comes out pretty OK in the end. A depressingly unusual example of character development.		* '''Prince Zuko''' (Avatar:The Last Airbender): Scarred prince in exile with fire magic and anger issues. Comes extremely close at times but is not because he only works against "The Man" after his sister is ordered to hunt him down. While he does have the mold of "extremely angry", his anger stems from his perceived failure and dishonor, a goal he is trying to rectify. There's also lines Zuko won't cross, even at his lowest point (like not stealing food from a pregnant woman to feed himself when starving). He is not mad at all society and humankind, though he comes very close at times. And having accepted the chance at being healed and friendship by the "Gaang", comes out pretty OK in the end. A depressingly unusual example of character development.

	* '''V''' (V for Vendetta): A man who escaped a concentration camp and became an anarchist terrorist in a Guy Fawkes costume with ~~a fixation on~~ the letter "V" and the number "5". He is violent, ruthless, ~~genuinely committed to his cause~~ and ~~also~~ espouses the anarchist views of his author, Alan Moore. ~~But V~~ is not an edgelord ~~because~~ he's cultured, polite and genteel ~~rather than~~ aggressive or rough ~~and~~ Moore explicitly leaves it up to the reader to decide whether they consider V~~'s position~~ right or wrong/good or evil. He also ~~hopes~~ and ~~plans~~ for a future where his violent ways aren't needed~~, leaving~~ the final decision ~~about what will happen~~ to someone he ~~expects~~ to still be alive in the future he intends to create. Side note; this character is the reason Guy Fawkes masks are used by the group Anonymous and became an anarchist symbol (yes, really).		* '''V''' (V for Vendetta): A man who escaped a concentration camp and became an anarchist terrorist in a Guy Fawkes costume obsessed with the letter "V" and the number "5". He is violent, ruthless, dedicated and espouses the anarchist views of his author, Alan Moore... but is not an edgelord. Part beacuse he's cultured, polite and genteel and not aggressive or rough. Part because Moore explicitly leaves it up to the reader to decide whether they consider V right or wrong/good or evil. He also hoped and planned for a future where his violent ways aren't needed and gave the final decision to someone he expected to still be alive in the future he intends to create. Side note; this character is the reason Guy Fawkes masks are used by the group Anonymous and became an anarchist symbol and Moore is very proud of it (yes, really).

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

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	* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.		* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.
	* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.		* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.
	* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he's on loan from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental, so his entire body (yes, ENTIRE body including his...) burns ~~constantly~~ incredibly hot and he cares about nothing but his appetites~~; insatiable for more things to consume even though he doesn't actually need to~~. He's perpetually horny and hungry ~~but~~ can't eat or have sex normally as anything he touches tends to be instantly rendered to ash ~~by his incredible body heat~~. His "~~solutions~~"~~? For~~ sex, because the normal orifices burn too quickly for him to "finish the job"~~... he goes~~ for the eyes and eye sockets. When he started preying on superhumans as their bodies are sometimes strong enough for him to rape before they are completely incinerated, he also started eating their flesh for the same reason. That's not all, but these are the worst examples ~~of his behavior~~. His name "Willy Pete" in real-life is the nickname for the highly poisonous and combustible material white phosphorus.		* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's superhero spoof on BDSM manga that got a bit grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he's on loan from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental, so his entire body (yes, ENTIRE body including his...) constantly burns incredibly hot and he cares about nothing but his appetites. He's perpetually horny and hungry though he doesn't need to eat, and he can't eat or have sex normally as anything he touches tends to be instantly rendered to ash. His "solution" for sex, because the normal orifices burn too quickly for him to "finish the job", was to go for the eyes and eye sockets (he killed Thugboy's gang this way and is hunting him to finish the job). When he started preying on superhumans, because their bodies are sometimes strong enough for him to rape before they are completely incinerated, he also started eating their flesh for the same reason and liked the taste. That's not all, but these are two of the worst examples. His name "Willy Pete" in real-life is the nickname for the highly poisonous and combustible material white phosphorus.
	* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.		* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.
	* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>		* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>

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	* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.		* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.
	* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.		* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.
	* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he's on loan from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental, so his entire body (yes, ENTIRE body including his...) burns constantly incredibly hot and he cares about nothing but his appetites; insatiable for more things to consume even though he doesn't actually need to. He's perpetually horny and hungry but can't eat or have sex normally. His "solutions"? For sex, because the normal orifices burn too quickly for him to "finish the job"... he goes for the eyes and eye sockets. ~~In regard~~ to ~~food, normal food burns~~ before ~~it reaches his mouth~~, so he ~~eats~~ flesh ~~from superheroes tough enough to not be instantly turned to ash by his fiery body (and also targets them~~ for ~~deadly skullfucking because their bodies "last longer")~~. That's not all, but these are the worst examples of his behavior. His name "Willy Pete" in real-life is the nickname for the highly poisonous and combustible material white phosphorus.		* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he's on loan from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental, so his entire body (yes, ENTIRE body including his...) burns constantly incredibly hot and he cares about nothing but his appetites; insatiable for more things to consume even though he doesn't actually need to. He's perpetually horny and hungry but can't eat or have sex normally as anything he touches tends to be instantly rendered to ash by his incredible body heat. His "solutions"? For sex, because the normal orifices burn too quickly for him to "finish the job"... he goes for the eyes and eye sockets. When he started preying on superhumans as their bodies are sometimes strong enough for him to rape before they are completely incinerated, he also started eating their flesh for the same reason. That's not all, but these are the worst examples of his behavior. His name "Willy Pete" in real-life is the nickname for the highly poisonous and combustible material white phosphorus.
	* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.		* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.
	* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>		* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>

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	* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.		* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.
	* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.		* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.
	* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he ~~was loaned~~ from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental~~. His~~ entire body (yes, ENTIRE body...) burns constantly incredibly hot and his appetites ~~- food~~ and sex ~~- are insatiable~~. ~~And~~ because the normal orifices ~~don't last long enough~~ to finish the job ~~because they burn too quickly~~... he ~~has a thing~~ for eyes and eye sockets.		* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he's on loan from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental, so his entire body (yes, ENTIRE body including his...) burns constantly incredibly hot and he cares about nothing but his appetites; insatiable for more things to consume even though he doesn't actually need to. He's perpetually horny and hungry but can't eat or have sex normally. His "solutions"? For sex, because the normal orifices burn too quickly for him to "finish the job"... he goes for the eyes and eye sockets. In regard to food, normal food burns before it reaches his mouth, so he eats flesh from superheroes tough enough to not be instantly turned to ash by his fiery body (and also targets them for deadly skullfucking because their bodies "last longer"). That's not all, but these are the worst examples of his behavior. His name "Willy Pete" in real-life is the nickname for the highly poisonous and combustible material white phosphorus.
	* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.		* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.
	* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>		* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>

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	** Batman can be made into an edgelord in an edgy writer's hands (for example, Frank Miller's "All Star Batman And Robin"), although more rarely than you might think, since his respect for at least some parts of the establishment - owning Wayne Enterprises, his unofficial alliance with Gotham's police including his personal friendship with Police Commissioner Gordon - and his "no kill" code usually heads off most of the edgelord tendencies.		** Batman can be made into an edgelord in an edgy writer's hands (for example, Frank Miller's "All Star Batman And Robin"), although more rarely than you might think, since his respect for at least some parts of the establishment - owning Wayne Enterprises, his unofficial alliance with Gotham's police including his personal friendship with Police Commissioner Gordon - and his "no kill" code usually heads off most of the edgelord tendencies.
	*** [[wikipedia:The_Batman_Who_Laughs\|The Batman Who Laughs]] is an obnoxious combination of the edgiest aspects of both the Batman ''and'' the Joker. By extension, everyone from DC's Dark Multiverse (Negative companions to the actual multiverse that frequently collapse and involve one person's particular worst nightmares) that escapes to reality produces the edgelord version (or multiple, especially Batman or his female variants) of the actual character, BWL being the apex by being edgy Batman and edgy Joker at the same time.		*** [[wikipedia:The_Batman_Who_Laughs\|The Batman Who Laughs]] is an obnoxious combination of the edgiest aspects of both the Batman ''and'' the Joker. By extension, everyone from DC's Dark Multiverse (Negative companions to the actual multiverse that frequently collapse and involve one person's particular worst nightmares) that escapes to reality produces the edgelord version (or multiple, especially Batman or his female variants) of the actual character, BWL being the apex by being edgy Batman and edgy Joker at the same time.
	* Darkness. If the name alone wasn't a tip off, he's a former mob hit man who got cursed by an evil cosmic force on his 21st birthday that gives him powers but encourages him to be violent and will kill him if he tries to give them up or gets a woman pregnant. Said power also spawns violent imps who obey him and make edgy remarks, plus his healing extends to his sperm overcoming birth control so for him having sex is like playing Russian roulette. Some of these changed depending on the writer, so overall he's a mild example of an edgelord. While Marc Silvestri and David Wohl created the character, they got Garth Ennis to help and write the first story and it shows.		* Darkness. If the name alone wasn't a tip off, he's a former mob hit man who got cursed by titular evil cosmic force on his 21st birthday that gives him great powers but encourages him to be violent and will kill him if he tries to give them up or gets a woman pregnant. Said power also spawns violent imps who obey him and make edgy remarks, plus his healing extends to his sperm overcoming birth control so for him having sex is like playing Russian roulette. Some of these changed depending on the writer, so overall he's a mild example of an edgelord. While Marc Silvestri and David Wohl created the character, they got Garth Ennis to help and write the first story and it shows.
	* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.		* Spawn, the title character from the Spawn series, is a combination of everything loved and hated about the 90's antihero. He was a bloodthirsty soldier killed by treachery and sent to hell for his murders but made a deal with a demon to see his wife again that got him sent back as a hideous, black-clad demonic undead solider for hell... and he's considered the good guy. Also... never mind, that alone is MORE than enough for the edgelord label already. Outside the setting, the character was created by comic book writer Todd Macfarlane when he was a teenager and it shows.
	* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.		* Lady Death. She was a woman burned at the stake for her father's crimes, went to a dark afterlife and violently rose to power there. The original version was a demon who tempted men to serve hell. The second version was a woman who made a deal with a demon to avoid being killed, gave up her humanity, went to hell and overthrew the devil to become its ruler. The third version went to a hell-knockoff called the Labyrinth and became the goddess of the dead.
			* Willy Pete from Empowered. While Empowered began as Adam Warren's spoof on BDSM manga that got grim, Willy Pete comes across as if he was loaned from Jeph Loeb or Garth Ennis. Willy Pete is a fire elemental. His entire body (yes, ENTIRE body...) burns constantly incredibly hot and his appetites - food and sex - are insatiable. And because the normal orifices don't last long enough to finish the job because they burn too quickly... he has a thing for eyes and eye sockets.
	* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.		* Lono from 100 Bullets skirts the edgelord event horizon so much he might have been one, though himself isn't edgy anymore at the end. Does all the things an edgelord does without the grim unhappiness. Starts out quite mellow and cheerful, kills and rapes for fun, then grows darker and brooding until his extremely painful escape and eventual torture and quasi-redemption as the servant of a catholic orphanage with genuinely good intentions.
	* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>		* Lord Edgelord, later killed and brought back as Lord Edgegod, from Slackwyrm Keep. He's aware, and <s>he's loving it</s><span style='color:red;font-size:100%'>*CLANG!* There's no love in edge, only chaos!</span>