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	Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.		Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.

	The world is called ''Tekumel'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. "Phil" Barker, an American Muslim who pulled on a shitload of ~~culture~~ studies to create the setting. There are some novels set there, the first being the Man of Gold.		The world is called ''Tekumel'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. "Phil" Barker, an American Muslim who converted to Islam during his first trip to India in 1951, changing his name from Phillip Barker to Muhammad Abd-al-Rahman Barker. He pulled from a shitload of cultural studies to create the setting, making it ''very'' weird to anyone who isn't balls deep into comparative culture; in the 1970s, people used to learn the languages of this world, apparently since [[Star Trek\|Klingon]] hadn't been codified yet. There are some novels set there, the first being the Man of Gold.

	~~In the 1970s, people used to learn the languages of this world, apparently.~~

	If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].		If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].
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	==Customs and Culture==		==Customs and Culture==
	As noted, Tékumel is seeped in customs and culture. So much so, players have to acclimate to the setting's alien morality and sensibilities! Besides all the diacritic-heavy foreign words in play, this is what makes Tékumel so difficult to run. The setting is old-fashion with many things, like the rigid caste system, arranged marriages, slavery, women lacking rights (unless they become “aridani”), and so on. But at the same time, it is strangely progressive for something invented in the early 1940s.		As noted, Tékumel is seeped in customs and culture. So much so, players have to acclimate to the setting's alien morality and sensibilities! Besides all the diacritic-heavy foreign words in play, this is what makes Tékumel so difficult to run. The setting is old-fashion with many things, like the rigid caste system, arranged marriages, slavery, women lacking rights (unless they become “aridani”), and so on. But at the same time, it is strangely progressive for something invented in the early 1940s. Note that all of this is just scratching the surface, there's a ''lot'' of detail we're skipping here for the sake of brevity.

	===Outlook===		===Outlook===
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	As noted above, people take all statements, even in jest, very seriously. That is not to say that they are joyless and uptight, but properly maintaining stoicism and reputation is seen as matter of life-or-death.		As noted above, people take all statements, even in jest, very seriously. That is not to say that they are joyless and uptight, but properly maintaining stoicism and reputation is seen as matter of life-or-death.

			Due to Baker's avowed desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (see also: Tarzan, John Carter, Allan Quartermain), he established that anyone with Caucasian physical features [[Lulz\|is a walking curse, and anyone born with such should be put down by the decree of the gods]]. So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]" and white people as-such don't really exist. This became even more lulzy in 2020 when the Tékumel Foundation started going through his notes and found out that he became a neo-Nazi in the 1990s, editing a Holocaust-denialist "academic journal" for 12 years and drafting an alternate history novel about a Fourth Reich in the US. Needless to say everyone was quite horrified by this, as there were absolutely ''no'' hints he had done this kind of 180 during his life.

	===Politics===		===Politics===
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	===Sexuality===		===Sexuality===
	People are not embarrassed by sex and nudity, seeing them as normal things. In fact, clothing are more costumes one wears outside to show what clan someone is, along with one's faith, occupation, social and occupational status and political affiliation — like looking at someone's back bumper — than a means of modesty. Adultery is not a big issue as sexual jealousy is frowned upon, and premarital sex is seen as normal. Clan girls typically grow plants that work as a contraceptive when chewed. The clans foster such a strong family support group that having children out of wedlock is not a big deal, and is fairly common.		People are not embarrassed by sex and nudity, seeing them as normal things. In fact, clothing are more costumes one wears outside to show what clan someone is, along with one's faith, occupation, social and occupational status and political affiliation — like looking at someone's back bumper — than a means of modesty. Adultery is not a big issue as sexual jealousy is frowned upon, and premarital sex is seen as normal. Clan girls typically grow plants that work as a contraceptive when chewed. The clans foster such a strong family support group that having children out of wedlock is not a big deal, and is fairly common.

	~~===Afterthought===~~
	~~This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!~~

	Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]". Rather ironic, seeing as the author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._A._R._Barker#Neo-Nazi/white_supremacist_work\|published wrote a Neo-Nazi novel and worked for a Holocaust-denying publication for twelve years].

	==The Races of Tékumel==		==The Races of Tékumel==

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	[[File:Tekumel-4e-cover.png\|thumb\|350px\|right\|Through the ever vigilant eyes of the Azul Legion, the omnipresent Emperor sees all; knows all!]]		[[File:Tekumel-4e-cover.png\|thumb\|350px\|right\|Through the ever vigilant eyes of the <s>Dai Li</s> Azul Legion, the omnipresent Emperor sees all; knows all!]]

	An elaborate, impressively detailed fictional world created by a distinguished English linguist as a setting for his fictional language he made up as a kid. Features fully-realised history, languages, geography, and cultures with a richness that can only be envied and aped by lesser creators.		An elaborate, impressively detailed fictional world created by a distinguished English linguist as a setting for his fictional language he made up as a kid. Features fully-realised history, languages, geography, and cultures with a richness that can only be envied and aped by lesser creators.
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	Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.		Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.

	The world is called ''~~Tékumel~~'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. Barker, who ~~is quite~~ the ~~character~~. ~~He converted to Islam during his~~ first ~~trip to India in 1951, changing his name from Phillip Barker to Muhammad Abd-al-Rahman Barker. Then in~~ the ~~90s, he secretly became a [[/pol/\|neo-nazi]], working as an editor for 12 years~~ of a fake academic journal that published nothing but holocaust denial, and writing an alternate history novel under a pseudonym wherein a Fourth Reich is installed in the US, à la ''The Turner Diaries''. ~~These things were not known by~~ the ~~public until 2020~~, ~~when they were discovered among Barker's papers by archivists working for~~ the ~~Tékumel Foundation. This came as quite a shock to fans~~ of ~~the setting~~, ~~which is inspired almost exclusively by non-white, non-western cultures, and explicitly has no people with European phenotypes in it. Its like if we found out Frank Herbert was a neo-nazi~~.		The world is called ''Tekumel'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. "Phil" Barker, an American Muslim who pulled on a shitload of culture studies to create the setting. There are some novels set there, the first being the Man of Gold.

			In the 1970s, people used to learn the languages of this world, apparently.

	If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].		If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].
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	It could be argued that the actual appeal would be all the topless women in the art, if not for the fact that this game requires a degree of maturity to get into -- if all one wants is the boobage, there are [[EroRPG\|other games]] for that. That said, it has a ''lot'' of nice, tasteful nudity.		It could be argued that the actual appeal would be all the topless women in the art, if not for the fact that this game requires a degree of maturity to get into -- if all one wants is the boobage, there are [[EroRPG\|other games]] for that. That said, it has a ''lot'' of nice, tasteful nudity.


	==The Plane of Tékumel==		==The Plane of Tékumel==
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	This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!		This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!

	Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]".		Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]". Rather ironic, seeing as the author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._A._R._Barker#Neo-Nazi/white_supremacist_work\|published wrote a Neo-Nazi novel and worked for a Holocaust-denying publication for twelve years].

	==The Races of Tékumel==		==The Races of Tékumel==
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	== Gallery ==		== Gallery ==
	<gallery>		<gallery>
	Avanthe WP.jpg\|An old-ass pic from the earliest edition.		Image:Avanthe WP.jpg\|An old-ass pic from the earliest edition.
	Bara color.jpg\|Typical outfit of a Tsolyáni woman.		Image:Bara color.jpg\|Typical outfit of a Tsolyáni woman.
	Mrissa print color 2.jpg\|An “aridani” soldier ready for battle.		Image:Mrissa print color 2.jpg\|An “aridani” soldier ready for battle.
	Talzhemir Mrr.jpg\|The character of [[furry]]-artist Talzhemir.		Image:Talzhemir Mrr.jpg\|The character of [[furry]]-artist Talzhemir.
	~~Tekumel armor types.jpg\|[[Fantasy Armor]] at its best.~~
	~~</gallery>~~

	~~{{Navbox TSR}}~~		Image:Tekumel armor types.jpg\|[[Fantasy_Armor\|Fantasy armor]] at its best.

			</gallery>
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	[[File:Tekumel-4e-cover.png\|thumb\|350px\|right\|Through the ever vigilant eyes of the ~~<s>Dai Li</s>~~ Azul Legion, the omnipresent Emperor sees all; knows all!]]		[[File:Tekumel-4e-cover.png\|thumb\|350px\|right\|Through the ever vigilant eyes of the Azul Legion, the omnipresent Emperor sees all; knows all!]]

	An elaborate, impressively detailed fictional world created by a distinguished English linguist as a setting for his fictional language he made up as a kid. Features fully-realised history, languages, geography, and cultures with a richness that can only be envied and aped by lesser creators.		An elaborate, impressively detailed fictional world created by a distinguished English linguist as a setting for his fictional language he made up as a kid. Features fully-realised history, languages, geography, and cultures with a richness that can only be envied and aped by lesser creators.
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	Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.		Wait, what was I talking about? '''Empire of the Petal Throne'''? Oh, it's okay I guess, if you like eating bugs.

	The world is called ''~~Tekumel~~'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. ~~"Phil"~~ Barker, ~~an American Muslim~~ who ~~pulled on a shitload of culture studies to create~~ the ~~setting~~. ~~There are some novels set there~~, the ~~first being~~ the ~~Man of Gold~~.		The world is called ''Tékumel'' and the author was Professor M.A.R. Barker, who is quite the character. He converted to Islam during his first trip to India in 1951, changing his name from Phillip Barker to Muhammad Abd-al-Rahman Barker. Then in the 90s, he secretly became a [[/pol/\|neo-nazi]], working as an editor for 12 years of a fake academic journal that published nothing but holocaust denial, and writing an alternate history novel under a pseudonym wherein a Fourth Reich is installed in the US, à la ''The Turner Diaries''. These things were not known by the public until 2020, when they were discovered among Barker's papers by archivists working for the Tékumel Foundation. This came as quite a shock to fans of the setting, which is inspired almost exclusively by non-white, non-western cultures, and explicitly has no people with European phenotypes in it. Its like if we found out Frank Herbert was a neo-nazi.

	In the ~~1970s~~, ~~people used~~ to ~~learn~~ the ~~languages of this world~~, ~~apparently~~.

	If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].		If you can't tell, this is not a setting you can just jump into like a generic [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting. It should be called ''"Culture Shock: The Role-Playing Game"'', as it needs a damn primer just to better understand what your characters can and can't do! Just the act of sarcasm or cracking jokes, even with a friend, needs to be handled carefully (if at all) or else you offend someone's honor and you'll have to fight it out, to the death, at the local arena. On top of that, the setting is filled with hard-to-pronounce names with some letters lacking English equivalents (this is basically language porn). Despite being the very first RPG setting ever published (Remember that the [[Greyhawk]] and [[Blackmoor]] books for OD&D were nothing more than rule-supplements) the game never reached mainstream popularity in the role-playing community, maintaining only a cult following with mostly [[Grognard\|old-time gamers]].
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	It could be argued that the actual appeal would be all the topless women in the art, if not for the fact that this game requires a degree of maturity to get into -- if all one wants is the boobage, there are [[EroRPG\|other games]] for that. That said, it has a ''lot'' of nice, tasteful nudity.		It could be argued that the actual appeal would be all the topless women in the art, if not for the fact that this game requires a degree of maturity to get into -- if all one wants is the boobage, there are [[EroRPG\|other games]] for that. That said, it has a ''lot'' of nice, tasteful nudity.


	==The Plane of Tékumel==		==The Plane of Tékumel==
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	This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!		This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!

	Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]". Rather ironic, seeing as the author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._A._R._Barker#Neo-Nazi/white_supremacist_work\|published wrote a Neo-Nazi novel and worked for a Holocaust-denying publication for twelve years].		Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]".

	==The Races of Tékumel==		==The Races of Tékumel==
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	== Gallery ==		== Gallery ==
	<gallery>		<gallery>
	~~Image:~~Avanthe WP.jpg\|An old-ass pic from the earliest edition.		Avanthe WP.jpg\|An old-ass pic from the earliest edition.
	~~Image:~~Bara color.jpg\|Typical outfit of a Tsolyáni woman.		Bara color.jpg\|Typical outfit of a Tsolyáni woman.
	~~Image:~~Mrissa print color 2.jpg\|An “aridani” soldier ready for battle.		Mrissa print color 2.jpg\|An “aridani” soldier ready for battle.
	~~Image:~~Talzhemir Mrr.jpg\|The character of [[furry]]-artist Talzhemir.		Talzhemir Mrr.jpg\|The character of [[furry]]-artist Talzhemir.
			Tekumel armor types.jpg\|[[Fantasy Armor]] at its best.
			</gallery>

	~~Image:Tekumel armor types.jpg\|[[Fantasy_Armor\|Fantasy armor]] at its best.~~		{{Navbox TSR}}

	~~</gallery>~~
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	This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!		This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!

	Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]".		Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]". Rather ironic, seeing as the author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._A._R._Barker#Neo-Nazi/white_supremacist_work\|published wrote a Neo-Nazi novel and worked for a Holocaust-denying publication for twelve years].

	==The Races of Tékumel==		==The Races of Tékumel==

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*shrug* I'll take it. Killing kids is awful.

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	This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!		This is just scratching the surface of the setting! Not all of this applies to all the kingdoms and outlying people. Baker was born to be an anthropologist and it shows!

	Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for [[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]].		Due to Baker's desire to keep western values and "white savior" fiction out of his setting (as these were common themes that played out in pulp-era of sci-fi and fantasy), he established that anyone with physical features [[SJW\|that are anything but dark are seen as a bad omen, to be put down at birth by decree of the gods]]! So basically the setting is racist against white people, but for "[[MYFAROG\|in-universe religious reasons]]".

	==The Races of Tékumel==		==The Races of Tékumel==