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	*'''''Mustard Gas''''': Yeah, this ones not getting a picture...While the exact start of WW2 is constantly debated considering the Second Italo-Ethiopian occurred shortly before Hitler got his groove on we'll count the weapons use here, especially since it would influence the war more directly as explained in a second. Essentially, while Hitler had a strict no gas policy against people he considered [[Grimdark\|'human']] (and actually stongly opposed its use even against the Soviets, despite having a massive stockpile and the Wehrmacht pressuring Hitler to use it), Italy gave no shits. The Italian Army still had massive quantities of spicy air leftover from WW1 though after their war in Ethiopian was dragged into a slog Benito figured the best way to deal with the complex tactical situation was to [[That Guy\|dump mustard gas over basically everything and just wait.]] Hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian citizens died from this but the Italians ended up dumping so much of the stuff they didn't really have much if any left for use against the Allies when the war started, especially since most of that gas was actually donated by the other Entente powers.		*'''''Mustard Gas''''': Yeah, this ones not getting a picture...While the exact start of WW2 is constantly debated considering the Second Italo-Ethiopian occurred shortly before Hitler got his groove on we'll count the weapons use here, especially since it would influence the war more directly as explained in a second. Essentially, while Hitler had a strict no gas policy against people he considered [[Grimdark\|'human']] (and actually stongly opposed its use even against the Soviets, despite having a massive stockpile and the Wehrmacht pressuring Hitler to use it), Italy gave no shits. The Italian Army still had massive quantities of spicy air leftover from WW1 though after their war in Ethiopian was dragged into a slog Benito figured the best way to deal with the complex tactical situation was to [[That Guy\|dump mustard gas over basically everything and just wait.]] Hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian citizens died from this but the Italians ended up dumping so much of the stuff they didn't really have much if any left for use against the Allies when the war started, especially since most of that gas was actually donated by the other Entente powers.
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	They also purposefully elected to give up on any sort of formalized air arm for the navy since it was seen as unnecessary. Their larger ships carried seaplanes for courier and spotting duties just like everyone else, but as their fleet generally stayed in the Mediterranean they saw no need for carriers; they would always be in range of an Italian airbase.		They also purposefully elected to give up on any sort of formalized air arm for the navy since it was seen as unnecessary. Their larger ships carried seaplanes for courier and spotting duties just like everyone else, but as their fleet generally stayed in the Mediterranean they saw no need for carriers; they would always be in range of an Italian airbase.

	Italy entered the war with a force that could ~~potentially overpower~~ the British Mediterranean squadron~~, and had been theory-crafted with an eye towards beating~~ the ~~French (the early ''Condottieris''~~ were ~~hard counters~~ to the ~~French ''Le Fantasque'')~~. This changed after Taranto, the first all-air vs ship attack in history. Torpedo bombers attacked the Italian fleet in harbor, destroying or disabling half their battleships, as well as a cruiser and two destroyers. ~~Afterwards~~, ~~they were regarded as more of a nuisance than a threat~~.		Italy entered the war with a force that could beat the French or the British Mediterranean squadron. This forced the RN to operate as a single force; if they were to divide up, the Italians could sortie against one group and overpower them in an unwinnable fight. This changed after Taranto, the first all-air vs ship attack in history. Torpedo bombers attacked the Italian fleet in harbor, destroying or disabling half their battleships, as well as a cruiser and two destroyers. This shifted the math such that the RN was able to divide their squadron into two independent groups with a carrier and two battleships each, confident that even if the Italians did jump them the fight would be fair(-ish).

	What was left of the Regia Marina didn't take the 1943 disarmament by Germany very well; some scuttled their ships (like France had before them) while others simply hauled anchor and sailed south to the allies. The allied landings in Sicily were essentially unopposed by the Italians at sea.		What was left of the Regia Marina didn't take the 1943 disarmament by Germany very well; some scuttled their ships (like France had before them) while others simply hauled anchor and sailed south to the allies. The allied landings in Sicily were essentially unopposed by the Italians at sea.

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	[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]		[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]

	*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Comparing the performance of the G.50 and the CR.32 in Spain, Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well to the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.		*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Comparing the performance of the G.50 and the CR.32 in Spain, Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane (which would take them a few years), they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well to the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.

	[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]		[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]

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	[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]		[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]

	*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well to the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.		*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Comparing the performance of the G.50 and the CR.32 in Spain, Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well to the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.

	[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]		[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]

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	[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]		[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]

	*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.		*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well to the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.

	[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]		[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]

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	[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]		[[File:Fiat CR.42 Falco.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|]]

	*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. ~~Beside price~~ and ~~ease of construction monoplanes were still a new~~, ~~relatively untested design. Most of the major powers saw the numerous advantages that came with monoplanes but most importantly~~ they ~~also had~~ the ~~funds~~ and ~~resources~~ to ~~develop a number of failures~~. ~~Secondary powers though like Spain, Poland~~ and the ~~Balkan states needed something tried, tested and guaranteed to actually fly~~. ~~That’s where Italy came in…Yeah despite~~ the ~~reputation their weapons received after~~ the ~~war~~, ~~before~~ the ~~war Italy~~ was ~~quite~~ the ~~arms dealer, especially to other Fascists or nations sympathetic~~ to the ~~Axis cause~~. ~~The Fiat~~ CR.42 was ~~probably their best product not only selling a trusted weapon but used many design techniques from~~ the ~~more modern monoplanes~~. This resulted in a plane more manoeuvrable than a monoplane with a well armoured strengthened frame. Most well known for their use by Spain, the Hungarian Resistance and…Well…Italy, the plane was extremely adaptable being easily equipped for recon, dogfighting and ~~ground attack. Apparently, it was REALLY good at that last one too, with some sources claiming it had a 1~~ to ~~12 kill ratio in Hungary~~.		*'''''Fiat CR.42 Falco''''': Before the start of the war biplanes were on their final days, though this doesn’t mean they weren’t still desirable. Fiat decided that instead of trying to compete with England and Germany over who had the best monoplane, they'd just take the same construction techniques and apply them to an older, proven design. The result was an inexpensive and easily produced second-line airplane that sold very well the poorer fascist-leaning countries. Although it lacked the speed to threaten even the Hurricane, the RAF quickly learned the Falco was far from defenseless as it could turn and roll harder than anything the allies brought to the party. As the war progressed the CR.42 was increasingly pressed into the close support role, usually carrying two or four .50 cal Bredas and up to 500 pounds worth of bombs.

	[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]		[[File:Fiat G.50 Freccia.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|]]