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1d4chan>Derpysaurus: /* Problems */

2023-01-02T15:39:15Z

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	And if that weren't bad enough, the second wave of Finecast <s>is</s> was doused with chemicals that kept the resin from sticking to the mold. Fine in theory (reduces mold lines) but it also [[THIN YOUR PAINTS\|keeps your paint from sticking to your model]].		And if that weren't bad enough, the second wave of Finecast <s>is</s> was doused with chemicals that kept the resin from sticking to the mold. Fine in theory (reduces mold lines) but it also [[THIN YOUR PAINTS\|keeps your paint from sticking to your model]].

	There were even reports of Finecast resin MELTING on hot summer days. This turned out to be an exaggeration, if only slightly so, because we can still mock what actually happened: in one case, a [[The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game]] Galdalf-on-horseback model was so front-heavy that on a hot summer day the model's leg gave out and it toppled forward. Resin models ''should not'' be kept in your car on a warm day, as they will almost certainly deform.		There were even reports of Finecast resin MELTING on hot summer days. This turned out to be an exaggeration, if only slightly so, because we can still mock what actually happened: in one case, a [[The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game]] Galdalf-on-horseback model was so front-heavy that on a hot summer day the model's leg gave out and it toppled forward. Resin models ''should not'' be kept in your car on a warm day, as they will almost certainly deform. Seriously, it got ''so bad'' that folks were getting third-party bootleg models from China and the bootlegs had [[EPIC FAIL\|''higher'']] quality than the official one.

	Originally, the Finecast minis were packed in clear plastic boxes, leading to legions of fans to poke and prod the boxes in order to avoid getting poorly cast models. This in turn pissed off the staff, for obvious reasons. Further, GW has a returns policy, and in past years they didn't always verify the validity of a return request, which led to less than honest people reporting multiple faults and getting multiple 'free' models. As of 2020, GW seems to be much more thorough when it comes to returns.		Originally, the Finecast minis were packed in clear plastic boxes, leading to legions of fans to poke and prod the boxes in order to avoid getting poorly cast models. This in turn pissed off the staff, for obvious reasons. Further, GW has a returns policy, and in past years they didn't always verify the validity of a return request, which led to less than honest people reporting multiple faults and getting multiple 'free' models. As of 2020, GW seems to be much more thorough when it comes to returns.

202.160.36.16: /* AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE */

2022-12-01T19:30:00Z

AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE

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	==AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE==		==AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE==
	The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.		The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range (including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==

78.16.247.158: /* AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE */

2022-05-13T23:45:40Z

AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE

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	==AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE==		==AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE==
	The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell ~~or various other miniatures~~ that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.		The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==

78.16.247.158: /* AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE */

2022-05-13T23:45:03Z

AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE

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	The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land~~, something major corporations aren't too fond of~~. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell or various other miniatures that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.		The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell or various other miniatures that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==

78.16.247.158: Finecast models being rotated 2022.

2022-05-13T23:43:57Z

Finecast models being rotated 2022.

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	Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but the release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out. In addition, many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak have recently had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as Finecast, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.		Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but the release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out. In addition, many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak have recently had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as Finecast, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.

			==AND NOW THE COUP DE GRACE==
			The long term consequences of Failcast have only continued to grow as time went on. As of 2022 GW have begun to 'rotate' out old Finecast models on account of it being majorly carcinogenic and thus extremely bad for their workers, which was a major cause for concern in lawsuit land, something major corporations aren't too fond of. While nothing to be mourned in terms of the quality of models exiting availability, it is none the less a major pain in the ass for anyone that might want an official model for a number of Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Tyranids or Ork models including some iconic characters like Yarrick, Creed, Kell or various other miniatures that have exited the range in 2022. The fact of the matter is that ultimately while no one will miss finecast, these models not having already been replaced by plastic kits while Primaris continue to expand their kits well past what many of the aforementioned affected armies have in their entire products range(including codices and playing cards) is a major annoyance. Had Finecast never existed, these models would not have had to go anywhere - but giving your workers cancer, price gouging consumers and eventually gutting large swathes of your product range that you have no immediate plans to fix don't matter as long as GW profits continue to soar.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==

1d4chan>Tsabo7: /* Problems */

2021-09-06T05:33:05Z

Problems

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	However, the price tag may have been tolerable were it not for the other problems associated with Finecast. The most notorious problem is that this first batch of Finecast has apparently come out with lots of bubbles that destroy detail or ruin the model entirely. Bubbles are well known to resin modellers as a result of rushed or poorly-handled molding, and the first Finecast batch resembled someone's first attempt at home-casting. While drunk.		However, the price tag may have been tolerable were it not for the other problems associated with Finecast. The most notorious problem is that this first batch of Finecast has apparently come out with lots of bubbles that destroy detail or ruin the model entirely. Bubbles are well known to resin modellers as a result of rushed or poorly-handled molding, and the first Finecast batch resembled someone's first attempt at home-casting. While drunk.

	As if to make a bad situation worse, [[Flash]], the little plastic line that runs along the surface of a model and is a leftover from the [[Casting]] process, is notably harder to trim on Finecast miniatures because the new material is so much softer. The traditional way of cleaning flash away is easy - simply scraping it away gently with a hobby knife's edge. Doing this with Finecast Models, of course, ~~tends to leave~~ them with unsightly scratches. In a ''surely'' unrelated note, GW has released a new kit for trimming Flash from Finecast Models - it goes for about $20 ('''PROTIP''': Keep your money, and instead use a small toothbrush - that disposable Colgate Wisp thing is fuck-awesome for Finecast work (if not resin in general) because it's small and has a hook on the handle that can be used to carve out any gunk you can't gently brush off, or just throw some money at Tamiya or some other company prone to making shit that actually works).		As if to make a bad situation worse, [[Flash]], the little plastic line that runs along the surface of a model and is a leftover from the [[Casting]] process, is notably harder to trim on Finecast miniatures because the new material is so much softer. The traditional way of cleaning flash away is easy - simply scraping it away gently with a hobby knife's back-edge. Doing this with Finecast Models, of course, risks leaving them with unsightly scratches. In a ''surely'' unrelated note, GW has released a new kit for trimming Flash from Finecast Models - it goes for about $20 ('''PROTIP''': Keep your money, and instead use a small toothbrush - that disposable Colgate Wisp thing is fuck-awesome for Finecast work (if not resin in general) because it's small and has a hook on the handle that can be used to carve out any gunk you can't gently brush off, or just throw some money at Tamiya or some other company prone to making shit that actually works).

	And if that weren't bad enough, the second wave of Finecast <s>is</s> was doused with chemicals that kept the resin from sticking to the mold. Fine in theory (reduces mold lines) but it also [[THIN YOUR PAINTS\|keeps your paint from sticking to your model]].		And if that weren't bad enough, the second wave of Finecast <s>is</s> was doused with chemicals that kept the resin from sticking to the mold. Fine in theory (reduces mold lines) but it also [[THIN YOUR PAINTS\|keeps your paint from sticking to your model]].

1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* BUT! */

2021-08-01T02:40:40Z

BUT!

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	Hopes that Finecast would be completely replaced by plastic within only a few years have been dashed. However, as of 2020 GW seems to have mostly, if not completely, stepped away from Finecast. And good riddance too.		Hopes that Finecast would be completely replaced by plastic within only a few years have been dashed. However, as of 2020 GW seems to have mostly, if not completely, stepped away from Finecast. And good riddance too.

	To be fair, the process for casting Finecast models does seem like it has improved, for whatever that statement is worth. It is now much more likely for Finecast models to be of tolerable quality, although you will probably ~~still note~~ that there is ~~very noticeable~~ gap in overall craftsmanship between Finecast and plastic. Unfortunately, as previously mentioned GW did not pass on any cost savings to the consumer. To make matters worse, they also started packaging their Finecast stuff in boxes rather than blister-packs so you really CAN'T see what's inside them until you fully open your purchase. You should definitely ask your local gaming store if you can verify the quality of the item inside the box before completing the purchase.		To be fair, the process for casting Finecast models does seem like it has improved, for whatever that statement is worth. It is now much more likely for Finecast models to be of tolerable quality, although you will probably notice that there is still a significant gap in overall craftsmanship between Finecast and plastic. Unfortunately, as previously mentioned GW did not pass on any cost savings to the consumer. To make matters worse, they also started packaging their Finecast stuff in boxes rather than blister-packs so you really CAN'T see what's inside them until you fully open your purchase. You should definitely ask your local gaming store if you can verify the quality of the item inside the box before completing the purchase.

	Recently a vast number of models that were produced as Finecast have had their descriptions updated, with the material changed from Finecast to simply "resin." Whether this means that the resin formula has changed or that GW wants to get away from the stigma of the Finecast name is yet to be confirmed, although it's almost certainly the latter.		Recently a vast number of models that were produced as Finecast have had their descriptions updated, with the material changed from Finecast to simply "resin." Whether this means that the resin formula has changed or that GW wants to get away from the stigma of the Finecast name is yet to be confirmed, although it's almost certainly the latter.
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	Despite all this, as previously mentioned GW hasn't ''completely'' stopped making new Finecast models. Some recent special/limited models, like the new [[Slambo]], [[Sly Marbo]], and [[Eisenhorn]] are still Finecast, probably because GW doesn't intend or expect to sell many copies (although [[Canoness Veridyan]] was apparently immensely popular). As of 2020, there are only a relatively small number of Finecast characters and units left in the GW line, and apart from the exceptions noted above, almost all of these are recasts of even older pewter minis. With only a few exceptions such as those noted above, virtually all new GW kits are being produced in plastic and the resin kits that still exist are being slowly phased out as they are replaced.		Despite all this, as previously mentioned GW hasn't ''completely'' stopped making new Finecast models. Some recent special/limited models, like the new [[Slambo]], [[Sly Marbo]], and [[Eisenhorn]] are still Finecast, probably because GW doesn't intend or expect to sell many copies (although [[Canoness Veridyan]] was apparently immensely popular). As of 2020, there are only a relatively small number of Finecast characters and units left in the GW line, and apart from the exceptions noted above, almost all of these are recasts of even older pewter minis. With only a few exceptions such as those noted above, virtually all new GW kits are being produced in plastic and the resin kits that still exist are being slowly phased out as they are replaced.

	Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but the release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out. In addition, many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak have recently had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as ~~finecast~~, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.		Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but the release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out. In addition, many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak have recently had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as Finecast, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==

1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* BUT! */

2021-07-26T20:41:17Z

BUT!

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	Despite all this, as previously mentioned GW hasn't ''completely'' stopped making new Finecast models. Some recent special/limited models, like the new [[Slambo]], [[Sly Marbo]], and [[Eisenhorn]] are still Finecast, probably because GW doesn't intend or expect to sell many copies (although [[Canoness Veridyan]] was apparently immensely popular). As of 2020, there are only a relatively small number of Finecast characters and units left in the GW line, and apart from the exceptions noted above, almost all of these are recasts of even older pewter minis. With only a few exceptions such as those noted above, virtually all new GW kits are being produced in plastic and the resin kits that still exist are being slowly phased out as they are replaced.		Despite all this, as previously mentioned GW hasn't ''completely'' stopped making new Finecast models. Some recent special/limited models, like the new [[Slambo]], [[Sly Marbo]], and [[Eisenhorn]] are still Finecast, probably because GW doesn't intend or expect to sell many copies (although [[Canoness Veridyan]] was apparently immensely popular). As of 2020, there are only a relatively small number of Finecast characters and units left in the GW line, and apart from the exceptions noted above, almost all of these are recasts of even older pewter minis. With only a few exceptions such as those noted above, virtually all new GW kits are being produced in plastic and the resin kits that still exist are being slowly phased out as they are replaced.

	Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out, ~~and recently~~ many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as finecast, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.		Resin miniatures are currently much more common in Age of Sigmar than 40k, as AoS still uses many old lines from WHFB, but the release of [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (whenever that is) should be a big stepping stone towards phasing them out. In addition, many old resin characters, like Teclis, Be'lakor and Lord Kroak have recently had their resin minis replaced by new plastic models. On the other hand, Forge World still has an extreme hard-on for Resin (is not the same formulas as finecast, but has many of the drawbacks), and as of 2020 still uses it in nearly all its products, making sure that when you buy their products with a 4-figures price tag that you'll have to deal with aggressive mold-lines and warping.

	==Shitecast in action==		==Shitecast in action==