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	[[File:FirePrism.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|right\|The old Fire Prism, which had a more pronounced crystal.]]		[[File:FirePrism.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|right\|The old Fire Prism, which had a more pronounced crystal.]]
	The three firing modes all have their uses. The first is a potent anti-[[MEQ]] shot that can really thin out enemy units. But this is only to be used when no other targets are available, because the Fire Prism is a real tank hunter. The second shot is powerful against just about any type of vehicle and even [[Terminator]]s in a pinch. The third shot will upon hitting a target really ruin its day: with S12 it's all but guaranteed to wound and it won't allow any saves either. What really makes the damn thing scary is the Pulsed Laser Discharge rule, which lets it fire ''twice'' if it moves under half of its movement characteristic in the previous move phase.		The three firing modes all have their uses. The first is a potent anti-[[MEQ]] shot that can really thin out enemy units. But this is only to be used when no other targets are available, because the Fire Prism is a real tank hunter. The second shot is powerful against just about any type of vehicle and even [[Terminator]]s in a pinch. The third shot will upon hitting a target really ruin its day: with S12 it's all but guaranteed to wound and it won't allow any saves either. What really makes the damn thing scary is the Pulsed Laser Discharge rule, which lets it fire ''twice'' if it moves under half of its movement characteristic in the previous move phase.

	The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, especially since they encourage you to be moving which cuts down on the number of shots you can make. If for some reason you are planning to advance with it, then make sure you take the Crystal Targeting Matrix on the thing as it'll allow you to still fire the main gun. Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Prism can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 155 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 200, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the [[Falcon]] in such a role.		The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, especially since they encourage you to be moving which cuts down on the number of shots you can make. If for some reason you are planning to advance with it, then make sure you take the Crystal Targeting Matrix on the thing as it'll allow you to still fire the main gun. Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Prism can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 155 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 200, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the [[Falcon]] in such a role.

	== 9th Edition==		== 9th Edition==

	Following the usual codex creep, the fire prism has seen a sizable buff as well as a simplification. Now only possessing two firing modes instead of three - focussed lance and dispersed pulse. The former gives you not one, but two s14 ap-5 d3d3 shots, and the latter 3d3d ap-2 D2 blast shots. The drawbacks? Fire prisms cost is now 165 points unupgraded... A whole ten points more than previously.		Following the usual codex creep, the fire prism has seen a sizable buff as well as a simplification. Now only possessing two firing modes instead of three - focussed lance and dispersed pulse. The former gives you not one, but two s14 ap-5 d3d3 shots, and the latter 3d3d ap-2 D2 blast shots. The drawbacks? Fire prisms cost is now 165 points unupgraded... A whole ten points more than previously.

	=== Power Rating ===		=== Power Rating ===

	The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 9 points it's one point more than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make it a viable alternative for something that can pull two jobs. Linking is still a stratagem, but for 2 command points you can use the target prism to negate invulnerable saves.		The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 9 points it's one point more than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make it a viable alternative for something that can pull two jobs. Linking is still a stratagem, but for 2 command points you can use the target prism to negate invulnerable saves.

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	The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, especially since they encourage you to be moving which cuts down on the number of shots you can make. If for some reason you are planning to advance with it, then make sure you take the Crystal Targeting Matrix on the thing as it'll allow you to still fire the main gun. Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Prism can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 155 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 200, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the [[Falcon]] in such a role.		The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, especially since they encourage you to be moving which cuts down on the number of shots you can make. If for some reason you are planning to advance with it, then make sure you take the Crystal Targeting Matrix on the thing as it'll allow you to still fire the main gun. Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Prism can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 155 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 200, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the [[Falcon]] in such a role.

			== 9th Edition==

			Following the usual codex creep, the fire prism has seen a sizable buff as well as a simplification. Now only possessing two firing modes instead of three - focussed lance and dispersed pulse. The former gives you not one, but two s14 ap-5 d3d3 shots, and the latter 3d3d ap-2 D2 blast shots. The drawbacks? Fire prisms cost is now 165 points unupgraded... A whole ten points more than previously.

	=== Power Rating ===		=== Power Rating ===

	The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 9 points it's one point more than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make it a viable alternative for something that can pull two jobs.		The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 9 points it's one point more than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make it a viable alternative for something that can pull two jobs. Linking is still a stratagem, but for 2 command points you can use the target prism to negate invulnerable saves.

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1d4chan>BirdNwah at 23:47, 18 November 2021

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	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==
	With T7, 12 wounds and a 3+ save paired with 16" movement a Fire Prism can move around quickly to take itself out of the enemy field of fire and take some fire it can't avoid. It comes equipped with a twin ~~shuriken catapult~~ and the main attraction, the Prism Cannon. No longer able to link up its shots to deal extra damage, the Prism Cannon has three firing modes:		With T7, 12 wounds and a 3+ save paired with 16" movement a Fire Prism can move around quickly to take itself out of the enemy field of fire and take some fire it can't avoid. It comes equipped with a twin [[Shuriken Catapult]] and the main attraction, the [[Prism Cannon]]. No longer able to link up its shots to deal extra damage, the [[Prism Cannon]] has three firing modes:

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	[[File:Fire Prism.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|I am become death, destroyer of tanks.]]		[[File:Fire Prism.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|I am become death, destroyer of tanks.]]
	A '''Fire Prism''' is an [[Eldar]] heavy anti-grav tank that looks exactly the same as a [[Falcon]] except for one minor detail: the ~~prism cannon~~ mounted on its top which is capable of wrecking your prized [[Predator]] tank in moments. The cannon focuses a beam of intense light within itself and then unleashes it in a blast of glory which can melt lesser tanks to pieces.		A '''Fire Prism''' is an [[Eldar]] heavy anti-grav tank that looks exactly the same as a [[Falcon]] except for one minor detail: the [[Prism Cannon]] mounted on its top which is capable of wrecking your prized [[Predator]] tank in moments. The cannon focuses a beam of intense light within itself and then unleashes it in a blast of glory which can melt lesser tanks to pieces.

	In [[Dawn of War]] the Fire Prism was hideously overpowered and beat the crap out of your squads and even other tanks mercilessly. If you had a squad of these they would fire through your forces, sending men, limbs and terrified kittens flying through the air, and DOW2 gives the Prism the ability to switch between anti-tank and anti-infantry settings just in case you really want to rub it in your opponent's face. But then, as we have established, [[Dawn of Eldar\|nothing involving Eldar in DoW was particularly fair...]]		In [[Dawn of War]] the Fire Prism was hideously overpowered and beat the crap out of your squads and even other tanks mercilessly. If you had a squad of these they would fire through your forces, sending men, limbs and terrified kittens flying through the air, and DOW2 gives the Prism the ability to switch between anti-tank and anti-infantry settings just in case you really want to rub it in your opponent's face. But then, as we have established, [[Dawn of Eldar\|nothing involving Eldar in DoW was particularly fair...]]

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	While these are formidable stat lines they suffer from the fact that they're all Heavy. This makes the 5-point Crystal Targeting Matrix all but mandatory, but do note that it only works against the ''closest'' unit. And while with a BS 3+ this is not the biggest of issues, when it drops to 6 Wounds or less its BS starts to suffer, making the other firing modes more likely to hit. The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, and Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Serpent can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 168 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 203, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the more expensive [[Falcon]]. It is more expensive, less tough than and lacks the transport capability of the [[Wave Serpent]] though, and you should consider whether you want the target flexibility of the Fire Prism or the utility of the Wave Serpent to supplement your army.		While these are formidable stat lines they suffer from the fact that they're all Heavy. This makes the 5-point Crystal Targeting Matrix all but mandatory, but do note that it only works against the ''closest'' unit. And while with a BS 3+ this is not the biggest of issues, when it drops to 6 Wounds or less its BS starts to suffer, making the other firing modes more likely to hit. The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, and Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Serpent can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 168 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 203, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the more expensive [[Falcon]]. It is more expensive, less tough than and lacks the transport capability of the [[Wave Serpent]] though, and you should consider whether you want the target flexibility of the Fire Prism or the utility of the Wave Serpent to supplement your army.

	===Power Rating===		=== Power Rating ===

	The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 7 points it's two points cheaper than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make this a viable alternative.		The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 7 points it's two points cheaper than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make this a viable alternative.

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	[[File:Fire Prism.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|I am become death, destroyer of tanks.]]		[[File:Fire Prism.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|I am become death, destroyer of tanks.]]
	A '''Fire Prism''' is an [[Eldar]] heavy anti-grav tank that looks exactly the same as a [[Falcon]] except for one minor detail: the [[Prism Cannon]] mounted on its top which is capable of wrecking your prized [[Predator]] tank in moments. The cannon focuses a beam of intense light within itself and then unleashes it in a blast of glory which can melt lesser tanks to pieces.		A '''Fire Prism''' is an [[Eldar]] heavy anti-grav tank that looks exactly the same as a [[Falcon]] except for one minor detail; the [[Prism Cannon]] mounted on its top which is capable of wrecking your prized [[Predator]] tank in moments. The cannon focuses a beam of intense light within itself and then unleashes it in a blast of glory which can melt lesser tanks to pieces.

	In [[Dawn of War]] the Fire Prism was hideously overpowered and beat the crap out of your squads and even other tanks mercilessly. If you had a squad of these they would fire through your forces, sending men, limbs and terrified kittens flying through the air, and DOW2 gives the Prism the ability to switch between anti-tank and anti-infantry settings just in case you really want to rub it in your opponent's face. But then, as we have established, [[Dawn of Eldar\|nothing involving Eldar in DoW was particularly fair...]]		In [[Dawn of War]] the Fire Prism was hideously overpowered and beat the crap out of your squads and even other tanks mercilessly. If you had a squad of these they would fire through your forces, sending men, limbs and terrified kittens flying through the air, and DOW2 gives the Prism the ability to switch between anti-tank and anti-infantry settings just in case you really want to rub it in your opponent's face. But then, as we have established, [[Dawn of Eldar\|nothing involving Eldar in DoW was particularly fair...]]

	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==
	With T7, 12 wounds and a 3+ save paired with 16" movement a Fire Prism can move around quickly to take itself out of the enemy field of fire and take some fire it can't avoid. It comes equipped with a twin [[Shuriken Catapult]] and the main attraction, the [[Prism Cannon]]. No longer able to link up its shots to deal extra damage, the [[Prism Cannon]] has three firing modes:		With T7, 12 wounds and a 3+ save paired with 16" movement a Fire Prism can move around quickly to take itself out of the enemy field of fire and take some fire it can't avoid. It comes equipped with a twin [[Shuriken Catapult]] and the main attraction, the [[Prism Cannon]]. No longer able to link up its shots to deal extra damage (though there is a stratagem for it now), the [[Prism Cannon]] has three firing modes:

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	[[File:FirePrism.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|right\|The old Fire Prism, which had a more pronounced crystal.]]		[[File:FirePrism.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|right\|The old Fire Prism, which had a more pronounced crystal.]]
	The three firing modes all have their uses. The first is a potent anti-[[MEQ]] shot that can really thin out enemy units. But this is only to be used when no other targets are available, because the Fire Prism is a real tank hunter. The second shot is powerful against just about any type of vehicle and even [[Terminator]]s in a pinch. The third shot will upon hitting a target really ruin its day: with S12 it's all but guaranteed to wound and it won't allow any saves either.		The three firing modes all have their uses. The first is a potent anti-[[MEQ]] shot that can really thin out enemy units. But this is only to be used when no other targets are available, because the Fire Prism is a real tank hunter. The second shot is powerful against just about any type of vehicle and even [[Terminator]]s in a pinch. The third shot will upon hitting a target really ruin its day: with S12 it's all but guaranteed to wound and it won't allow any saves either. What really makes the damn thing scary is the Pulsed Laser Discharge rule, which lets it fire ''twice'' if it moves under half of its movement characteristic in the previous move phase.

	While these are formidable stat lines they suffer from the fact that they're all Heavy. This makes the 5-point Crystal Targeting Matrix all but mandatory, but do note that it only works against the ''closest'' unit. And while with a BS 3+ this is not the biggest of issues, when it drops to 6 Wounds or less its BS starts to suffer, making the other firing modes more likely to hit. The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, ~~and~~ Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire ~~Serpent~~ can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is ~~168~~ points all these upgrades will bump it up to ~~203~~, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the ~~more expensive~~ [[Falcon]]. It is more expensive, less tough than and lacks the transport capability of the [[Wave Serpent]] though, and you should consider whether you want the target flexibility of the Fire Prism or the utility of the Wave Serpent to supplement your army.		The difference between Focussed and Lance is not that big, and you're more likely to hit with at least one of the shots for Focussed. As for other upgrades, the Star Engines and Vectored Engines work well together but at 20 points require some planning, especially since they encourage you to be moving which cuts down on the number of shots you can make. If for some reason you are planning to advance with it, then make sure you take the Crystal Targeting Matrix on the thing as it'll allow you to still fire the main gun. Spirit Stones are useful but up your cost by another 10 points. The Fire Prism can work against infantry (and is better at this with a shuriken cannon instead of twin catapults, even if it has 1 shot less), but it really shines at hunting vehicles and monsters. And while an unupgraded Fire Prism is 155 points all these upgrades will bump it up to 200, which you should keep in mind. Still, the Fire Prism is one hell of a tank hunter and outshines the [[Falcon]] in such a role.

	=== Power Rating ===		=== Power Rating ===

	The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 7 points it's ~~two points cheaper~~ than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make ~~this~~ a viable alternative.		The Fire Prism isn't radically improved when using Power Ratings. All the upgrades are no-brainers at this point and it can still very well hold its own. At 9 points it's one point more than the Falcon, which can field weaker but more reliable anti-tank weapons and can transport squads of [[Aspect Warrior]]s. It is matched in price by the Wave Serpent, which can be both a potent anti-infantry platform and a surprisingly useful anti-tank vehicle with twin Bright Lances. While the Fire Prism is strictly better at that job, the Wave serpent's toughness and transport capabilities are more than able to make it a viable alternative for something that can pull two jobs.

	[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]		[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]