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	'''Slaughter'''		'''Slaughter'''

	A high-speed Cruiser, thanks to its Scartix Engine Coil drive, it has the highest speed of any cruiser, period. The ''Slaughter'' bucks the usual Chaos S.O.P. by having medium-ranged macro batteries for its front and broadsides. This means that it can get in close, hit its enemies hard, then get out before they retaliate in kind. The Imperium doesn't build the Class anymore, as the designs for the drive were destroyed when one eventually went Traitor.		A high-speed Cruiser, thanks to its Scartix Engine Coil drive, it has the highest speed of any cruiser, period. The ''Slaughter'' bucks the usual Chaos S.O.P. by having medium-ranged macro batteries for its front and broadsides. This means that it can get in close, hit its enemies hard, then get out before they retaliate in kind. The Imperium doesn't build the Class anymore, as the designs for the drive were destroyed when one eventually went Traitor. What do you mean why don't they just keep using the factories or look to how they built said factories in the first place or check the Temple of All Knowledge? Shut up, logical heretek!

	=== [[Chaos Light Cruiser\|Light Cruiser]] ===		=== [[Chaos Light Cruiser\|Light Cruiser]] ===

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	'''Murder'''		'''Murder'''

	A mixed-weapons class, the Murder has front-mounted Lance battery and medium-ranged macro broadside batteries. Historically this class preceded the ''Lunar''-class, but Imperials have since stopped using it even in Reserve fleets.		A mixed-weapons class, the Murder has front-mounted Lance battery and medium-ranged macro broadside batteries. Historically this class preceded the ''Lunar''-class, but Imperials have since stopped using it even in Reserve fleets. Which is weird as it would be an excellent compliment for the Lunar-class. Grab a couple squadrons of Lunars with two ships in each and one squadron of Murders (or whatever the Imperial name is) to act as a reserve. The Murder and Lunar rips through shields and the Lances obliterate the vulnerable enemy ship. The Murder's speed would also be great for this as they can stay out of range and swoop in when and where they are needed.

	'''Carnage'''		'''Carnage'''

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	'''Devastation'''		'''Devastation'''

	The Lance boat of the Chaos cruisers, the Devastation supplements this long-ranged firepower with a pair of Launch Bays to for fighter and bomber support. It's also armed with medium-ranged macro batteries in front, in case battles come a little closer in than usual. Chaos lords love these things, as they use those Launch Bays to sortie assault boats full of mutant fodder.		The Lance boat of the Chaos cruisers, the Devastation supplements this long-ranged firepower with a pair of Launch Bays to for fighter and bomber support. Which is weird as it's weapons are shooting the shields and its bombers are hitting the armor under the shields, so they're not actually complementing each other. Unless the guns are meant to defend against escorts and attack craft are meant to swarm capital ships when working with a similarly outfitted fleet. It's also armed with medium-ranged macro batteries in front, in case battles come a little closer in than usual (speaking of, mixed range weaponry didn't work well in the first world war and is a dumb mistake to repeat). Chaos lords love these things, as they use those Launch Bays to sortie assault boats full of mutant fodder.

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	'''Carnage'''		'''Carnage'''

	The long-ranged ordinance-boat of the Chaos Cruisers, the Carnage features plasma macro batteries on its front, top, ''and'' broadsides. The Imperial Navy intended the class to be plasma-heavy fleet support ships, but the tendency of crews to go Renegade made them abandon its plans.		The long-ranged ordinance-boat of the Chaos Cruisers, the Carnage features plasma macro batteries on its front, top, ''and'' broadsides. The Imperial Navy intended the class to be plasma-heavy fleet support ships, but the tendency of crews to go Renegade made them abandon its plans. Servitors would have been a good idea.

	'''Slaughter'''		'''Slaughter'''

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	The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)		The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)

	The cherry on top is that the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. This is without even touching on the canonical cruisers that are equipped with battleship engines and weapons to do exactly this which means there's no reason for that to not be the standard and to scale up the rest of the types of ships accordingly. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.		The cherry on top is that the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. This is without even touching on the canonical cruisers that are equipped with battleship engines and weapons to do exactly this which means there's no reason for that to not be the standard (along with increased armor to take advantage of the improved power without sacrificing the ship's role) and to scale up the rest of the types of ships accordingly. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.

	You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.		You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.

217.180.196.69 at 19:32, 28 May 2023

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	The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)		The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)

	The cherry on top is that the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.		The cherry on top is that the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. This is without even touching on the canonical cruisers that are equipped with battleship engines and weapons to do exactly this which means there's no reason for that to not be the standard and to scale up the rest of the types of ships accordingly. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.

	You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.		You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.

217.180.196.69 at 19:30, 28 May 2023

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	It is also worth noting that most Chaos ships were not always discontinued by the Imperium due to a habit of turning renegade (some classes suffered this, but not all). Some of them were simply phased out and replaced by ships that honestly don't even fill the same role as the vessels they replaced, defeating the entire concept of phasing out old designs for new ones. Not so inferior, too, seeing as Black Crusades kick a lot of ass with those supposedly "outdated" warships.		It is also worth noting that most Chaos ships were not always discontinued by the Imperium due to a habit of turning renegade (some classes suffered this, but not all). Some of them were simply phased out and replaced by ships that honestly don't even fill the same role as the vessels they replaced, defeating the entire concept of phasing out old designs for new ones. Not so inferior, too, seeing as Black Crusades kick a lot of ass with those supposedly "outdated" warships.

	The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)~~. Although,~~ the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.		The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork)

			The cherry on top is that the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.

	You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.		You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.

217.180.196.69 at 19:30, 28 May 2023

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	It is also worth noting that most Chaos ships were not always discontinued by the Imperium due to a habit of turning renegade (some classes suffered this, but not all). Some of them were simply phased out and replaced by ships that honestly don't even fill the same role as the vessels they replaced, defeating the entire concept of phasing out old designs for new ones. Not so inferior, too, seeing as Black Crusades kick a lot of ass with those supposedly "outdated" warships.		It is also worth noting that most Chaos ships were not always discontinued by the Imperium due to a habit of turning renegade (some classes suffered this, but not all). Some of them were simply phased out and replaced by ships that honestly don't even fill the same role as the vessels they replaced, defeating the entire concept of phasing out old designs for new ones. Not so inferior, too, seeing as Black Crusades kick a lot of ass with those supposedly "outdated" warships.

	The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork).		The general explanation for phasing out older ships is that their older tech is harder to maintain to the standards of the Imperial Navy, and that they no longer fit current fleet doctrine. Consider though: the forces of Chaos manage to maintain them adequately, and while they're nowhere near as reliant on hand-me-downs from the Imperium as some may say, they've still got nowhere near the resources or logistics. The only place the old ships Chaos use might not fit in modern Imperial doctrine is long-range weapons batteries. Imperial ships get close to the enemy so the chances of friendly fire would be very high. Lances don't have that problem. Neither do swarms of attack craft. And these ships could just use their speed to fire on enemies from anywhere except right behind friendlies (or just use some basic co-ordination and teamwork). Although, the use of their numerous turrets and speed is actually much better suited for close-range combat where turret traversal and maneuvering matter a lot. Due to the pendulum effect, the further away something is, the smaller the movements needed to keep your gun lined up to hit it. Which means Chaos ships should be short-range specialists and Imperial ships should be long-range specialists. Although, both should prioritize speed so that they can move around strategically to engage and disengage as needed and to support friendly ships as needed with Chaos ships prioritizing acceleration and Imperial ships prioritizing maximum speed. But, Games Workshop isn't exactly known for thinking things through.

	You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.		You will likely notice and be annoyed by the fact Chaos ships are built in logical ways that make sense, such as combining long-ranged firepower with hangars for fleet support ships instead of close-range weapons with hangars, among other commonsense approaches. If you're an Imperial fan, you will hate this because Imperial ships often don't make as much sense. If you're a Chaos fan you'll hate this because your ships make too much sense.