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2001:BB6:B400:1EFD:F10C:AD23:9E4F:9A5B: Added linguistic notes. Will add full table of more appropriate forms if there are enough fa/tg/uys like me who can't stand latīnam canis.

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Added linguistic notes. Will add full table of more appropriate forms if there are enough fa/tg/uys like me who can't stand latīnam canis.

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	== Words ==		== Words ==

	There are nine words of power. Spells are usually an action (verb) and a realm (noun) together. Below are also the words in ''Latin'' in case you want to get all Harry Potter. (Don't forget that Latin puts the verb after the nouns.)		There are nine words of power. Spells are usually an action (verb) and a realm (noun) together. Below are also the words in ''Latin'' in case you want to get all Harry Potter. (<s>Don't forget that Latin puts the verb after the nouns.</s> In Latin, object is marked with the accusative case — that is, for you neckbeards who don't care about linguistics, you can put verb and noun anywhere as long as you change the word accordingly: therefore nāvitās → nāvitātem. This, of course, is made difficult due to the translation being half-assed at best.)

	The Four Actions:		The Four Actions:
	* '''Communicate with''' (''~~defero~~''): Read, Seek, Inform, Sense, Determine, Understand, etc.		* '''Communicate with''' (''dēferō''): Read, Seek, Inform, Sense, Determine, Understand, etc.
	* '''Diminish''' (''~~infirmo~~''): Weaken, Damage, Injure, Reduce, Break, Dull, Deteriorate, etc.		* '''Diminish''' (''īnfirmō''): Weaken, Damage, Injure, Reduce, Break, Dull, Deteriorate, etc.
	* '''Enhance''' (''~~augeo~~''): Strengthen, Heal, Enlarge, Repair, Sharpen, etc		* '''Enhance''' (''augeō''): Strengthen, Heal, Enlarge, Repair, Sharpen, etc
	* '''Control''' (''~~tempero~~''): Shape, Hold, Command, Form, Direct, Dictate, etc.		* '''Control''' (''temperō''): Shape, Hold, Command, Form, Direct, Dictate, etc.
	:(only after mastering the other actions can a magician learn to properly use the Control word).		:(only after mastering the other actions can a magician learn to properly use the Control word).

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	The Five Realms:		The Five Realms:
	* '''Body''' (''corpus''): Living body of sentient beings, animals, plants.		* '''Body''' (''corpus''): Living body of sentient beings, animals, plants.
	* '''Energy''' (''~~navitas~~''): Fire, wind, electricity, motion, sonic - and if the GM is willing, time.		* '''Energy''' (''navitus''): Fire, wind, electricity, motion, sonic - and if the GM is willing, time.
	* '''Matter''' (''~~materia~~''): Solid material with no mind - stone, metal, wood, leather, paper, plastic.		* '''Matter''' (''materium''): Solid material with no mind - stone, metal, wood, leather, paper, plastic.
	* '''Mind''' (''~~mentis~~''): That which normally inhabits and animates/motivates an aware creature.		* '''Mind''' (''mentus''): That which normally inhabits and animates/motivates an aware creature.
	* '''Spirit''' (''animus''): That which motivates the living but no longer inhabits a body, or never did, or what unnaturally inhabits a body, item or location.		* '''Spirit''' (''animus''): That which motivates the living but no longer inhabits a body, or never did, or what unnaturally inhabits a body, item or location.
	: (only after mastering the other realms can a magician learn to properly use the Spirit word).		: (only after mastering the other realms can a magician learn to properly use the Spirit word).
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	(Water overlaps Energy and Matter realms: vapor or liquid water would be Energy, because you're altering its motion, but ice or stagnant water would be Matter.)		(Water overlaps Energy and Matter realms: vapor or liquid water would be Energy, because you're altering its motion, but ice or stagnant water would be Matter.)

	These combine into twenty spell effects.		These combine into twenty spell effects.

	== Spells ==		== Spells ==

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	[[Category:Mechanics]][[Category:Roleplaying]]		[[Category:Game Mechanics]][[Category:Roleplaying]]
	<div style="float:right; margin:2em;">__TOC__</div>		<div style="float:right; margin:2em;">__TOC__</div>

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	The Five Realms:		The Five Realms:
	* '''Body''' (''corpus''): Living body of sentient beings, animals, plants.		* '''Body''' (''corpus''): Living body of sentient beings, animals, plants.
	* '''Energy''' (''navitas''): Fire, wind, electricity, motion, ~~sonics~~ - and if the GM is willing, time.		* '''Energy''' (''navitas''): Fire, wind, electricity, motion, sonic - and if the GM is willing, time.
	* '''Matter''' (''materia''): Solid material with no mind - stone, metal, wood, leather, paper, plastic.		* '''Matter''' (''materia''): Solid material with no mind - stone, metal, wood, leather, paper, plastic.
	* '''Mind''' (''mentis''): That which normally inhabits and animates/motivates an aware creature.		* '''Mind''' (''mentis''): That which normally inhabits and animates/motivates an aware creature.
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	: (only after mastering the other realms can a magician learn to properly use the Spirit word).		: (only after mastering the other realms can a magician learn to properly use the Spirit word).

	(Water overlaps Energy and Matter realms: ~~vapour~~ or liquid water would be Energy, because you're altering ~~it's~~ motion, but ice or stagnant water would be Matter.)		(Water overlaps Energy and Matter realms: vapor or liquid water would be Energy, because you're altering its motion, but ice or stagnant water would be Matter.)

	These combine into twenty spell effects.		These combine into twenty spell effects.

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	A magician learns words of power, spoken by the creator(s) to bring the world into being. It's not enough to duplicate the sound, the magician must also flex their spirit to pronounce the correct "sound" equivalent in the local ether. This emits an effect that local reality cannot ignore.		A magician learns words of power, spoken by the creator(s) to bring the world into being. It's not enough to duplicate the sound, the magician must also flex their spirit to pronounce the correct "sound" equivalent in the local ether. This emits an effect that local reality cannot ignore.

	In FUDGE, a magician knows all the words except "Control" and "Spirit", which they only learn if they spend at least 3 points in the Magic skill group. In Microlite20 ~~and other level-based games~~, a starting wizard would know 3 words and gain another word every 3 levels, but "Control" must be the last action word and "Spirit" must be the last realm word.		In FUDGE, a magician knows all the words except "Control" and "Spirit", which they only learn if they spend at least 3 points in the Magic skill group. In Microlite20 or d20/OGL, a starting wizard would know 3 words and gain another word every 3 levels, but "Control" must be the last action word and "Spirit" must be the last realm word. Ars Magica has five "techniques" and ten "forms," which combine in similar ways described here, so you could call it "Five by Ten Magic" except that making up spell effects on-the-fly is discouraged.

	The effectiveness of a spell depends on how much [[mana]] is invested in the spell, or the margin of success made on a magery skill roll.		The effectiveness of a spell depends on how much [[mana]] is invested in the spell, or the margin of success made on a magery skill roll.
	: What about [[Vancian\|Vancian magic]]? ~~Untested~~ option ~~rule~~: give the magic-user 150% as many spell-slots as normal, each which can be occupied by one word, rounding up to the closest even number. Spells need two words to be cast so this reduces the # of spells per day, but spells are much more flexible so it's meant to balance out.		: What about [[Vancian\|Vancian magic]]? Try this option: give the magic-user 150% as many spell-slots as normal, each which can be occupied by one word, rounding up to the closest even number. Spells need two words to be cast so this reduces the # of spells per day, but spells are much more flexible so it's meant to balance out.

	== Words ==		== Words ==

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	There are only 20 possible utterances with these words of power, but this doesn't limit the magical effects to only 20 possible effects; each spell is a description of the effect the magic-user wishes to create, with embellishments made by the context of the spell, pointing, gestures, ritually carved sticks or patterns on the floor, etc. Most of the time these props are not necessary, but help the wizard to concentrate and make her command clearly understood by the cosmos.		There are only 20 possible utterances with these words of power, but this doesn't limit the magical effects to only 20 possible effects; each spell is a description of the effect the magic-user wishes to create, with embellishments made by the context of the spell, pointing, gestures, ritually carved sticks or patterns on the floor, etc. Most of the time these props are not necessary, but help the wizard to concentrate and make her command clearly understood by the cosmos.

	The potency of a spell's effects depends on how much mana is invested in emitting the words of power, or by the margin of success in a magery/spellcraft skill roll, or the target number/ difficulty class you're willing to risk. The original rules mentioned four levels of effectiveness for each spell (~~and~~ their [[D20_System\|d20SRD]] equivalents):		The potency of a spell's effects depends on how much mana is invested in emitting the words of power, or by the margin of success in a magery/spellcraft skill roll, or the target number/ difficulty class you're willing to risk. The original rules mentioned four levels of effectiveness for each spell (''followed by their [[D20_System\|d20SRD]] equivalents''):
	* '''Fair''' (standard) potency spells cause events that don't seem like magic to most people, but are nonetheless caused by a magician.		* '''Fair''' (''standard'') potency spells cause events that don't seem like magic to most people, but are nonetheless caused by a magician.
	* '''Good''' (extraordinary) potency spells are events that are possible but extremely unlikely.		* '''Good''' (''extraordinary'') potency spells are events that are possible but extremely unlikely.
	* '''Great''' (spell-like) potency spells are events most people will acknowledge could only be caused by magic; however, these are relatively minor, one-off effects.		* '''Great''' (''spell-like'') potency spells are events most people will acknowledge could only be caused by magic; however, these are relatively minor, one-off effects.
	* '''Superb''' (supernatural) potency spells are events that everyone will admit could be caused only by major magic.		* '''Superb''' (''supernatural'') potency spells are events that everyone will admit could be caused only by major magic.

			:(''In the effects, it mentions "levels", which has a different meaning in [[FUDGE]] than it would in d20 systems. FUDGE uses a bell-curve for success rolls, so +1 level for FUDGE could be +1 to +4 for d20.'')

	=== Communicate/Sense Spells ===		=== Communicate/Sense Spells ===

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	== Spells ==		== Spells ==

	There are only 20 possible utterances with these words of power, but this doesn't limit the magical effects to only 20 possible effects; each spell is a description of the effect the magic-user wishes to create, with embellishments made by the context of the spell, pointing, gestures, ritually carved sticks or patterns on the floor, etc. Most of the time these are not necessary, but help the wizard to concentrate and make her ~~will~~ clearly understood by the cosmos.		There are only 20 possible utterances with these words of power, but this doesn't limit the magical effects to only 20 possible effects; each spell is a description of the effect the magic-user wishes to create, with embellishments made by the context of the spell, pointing, gestures, ritually carved sticks or patterns on the floor, etc. Most of the time these props are not necessary, but help the wizard to concentrate and make her command clearly understood by the cosmos.

	The potency of a spell's effects depends on how much mana is invested in emitting the words of power, or by the margin of success in a magery/spellcraft skill roll, or the target number/ difficulty class you're willing to risk. The original rules mentioned four levels of effectiveness for each spell (and their [[D20_System\|d20SRD]] equivalents):		The potency of a spell's effects depends on how much mana is invested in emitting the words of power, or by the margin of success in a magery/spellcraft skill roll, or the target number/ difficulty class you're willing to risk. The original rules mentioned four levels of effectiveness for each spell (and their [[D20_System\|d20SRD]] equivalents):
	* '''Fair''' (standard) potency spells ~~include things~~ that don't seem like magic to most people, but are nonetheless caused by a magician.		* '''Fair''' (standard) potency spells cause events that don't seem like magic to most people, but are nonetheless caused by a magician.
	* '''Good''' (extraordinary) potency spells ~~include still normal~~ events, but ~~those which happen at strange times~~.		* '''Good''' (extraordinary) potency spells are events that are possible but extremely unlikely.
	* '''Great''' (spell-like) potency spells ~~include things that~~ most people will acknowledge to be magic ~~- things that go beyond the natural~~; however, these are ~~still~~ relatively minor effects.		* '''Great''' (spell-like) potency spells are events most people will acknowledge could only be caused by magic; however, these are relatively minor, one-off effects.
	* '''Superb''' (supernatural) potency spells ~~include things~~ that everyone will admit is major magic.		* '''Superb''' (supernatural) potency spells are events that everyone will admit could be caused only by major magic.

	=== Communicate/Sense Spells ===		=== Communicate/Sense Spells ===

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	=== Control Spells ===		=== Control Spells ===
			There are no Control spells at "Fair/standard" level, because the Control word is difficult to use, and most things in the cosmos resist control either by objecting to interference, or by adhering adamantly to the laws of physics. Control spells start at "Good/extraordinary".

	* '''Control Body''': Shape-shift, freeze in place, cause hand to attack owner, cause to stumble, enable to fly, etc. Opposed by Health.		* '''Control Body''': Shape-shift, freeze in place, cause hand to attack owner, cause to stumble, enable to fly, etc. Opposed by Health.
			** Good: cause someone to stumble as they walk
			** Great: freeze someone in place
			** Superb: shapeshift into a hawk

	* '''Control Energy''': Fireballs, jets of water or air, magical bolt, etc.		* '''Control Energy''': Fireballs, jets of water or air, magical bolt, etc.
			** Good: cause fire to leap out of the fireplace a short distance
			** Great: ride the wind
			** Superb: evoke a large, potent fireball

	* '''Control Matter''': Shape inanimate matter, telekinesis, animation, open locks, etc.		* '''Control Matter''': Shape inanimate matter, telekinesis, animation, open locks, etc.
			** Good: open a lock in a few seconds with improvised tools and an absence of lockpicking skill
			** Great: animate a pair of scissors to operate at your will from a distance
			** Superb: shape stone as if it were soft putty

	* '''Control Mind''': Dictate actions, emotions, attitudes, loyalties, beliefs, etc. Opposed by Willpower.		* '''Control Mind''': Dictate actions, emotions, attitudes, loyalties, beliefs, etc. Opposed by Willpower.
			** Good: cause someone to see motion out of the corner of their eye (despite nothing being there)
			** Great: create illusions which can be seen, heard, smelt, felt
			** Superb: cause a character to attack his friends

	* '''Control Spirit''': Dictate actions, emotions, banish from this plane, etc. Opposed by the spirit's Willpower.		* '''Control Spirit''': Dictate actions, emotions, banish from this plane, etc. Opposed by the spirit's Willpower.
			** Good: (controlling a spirit is beyond extraordinary)
			** Great: bind a spirit to specific object, or allow a spirit bound in place to roam free
			** Superb: banish a spirit from this world entirely

	== Source ==		== Source ==
	* [http://www.panix.com/~sos/rpg/4by5.html The original article] by Steffan O'Sullivan		* [http://www.panix.com/~sos/rpg/4by5.html The original article] by Steffan O'Sullivan