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	He is the second Primarch to receive his own miniature as part of [[Forge World]]'s Character Series. (Surprisingly, it's not just a set piece. It's an actual miniature!)		He is the second Primarch to receive his own miniature as part of [[Forge World]]'s Character Series. (Surprisingly, it's not just a set piece. It's an actual miniature!)

			His name is quite ironic considering he and his legion were reknowned for being extremely good looking, 'Ful' is swedish for ugly while 'Grim' is Norwegian for ugly. Ugly-ugly perhaps reflects his true nature, as Fulgrim is both ugly by his thoughts and by his deeds.

	==Youth==		==Youth==

1d4chan>MrPhantom: /* GRANDPA SMURF IS WHAT AGAIN!? */

2023-05-14T22:38:51Z

GRANDPA SMURF IS WHAT AGAIN!?

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	Also, Fulgrim went to Istvaan III after a sonic beacon caught his attention. There, he met the last loyal member of Emperor's Children, the Venerable Dreadnought Ancient Rylanor, alongside some Thousand Sons. Rylanor revealed he prepared a special "Fuck You" for Fulgrim: a Horus Heresy-era Virus Bomb, which he was sitting on and then detonated.		Also, Fulgrim went to Istvaan III after a sonic beacon caught his attention. There, he met the last loyal member of Emperor's Children, the Venerable Dreadnought Ancient Rylanor, alongside some Thousand Sons. Rylanor revealed he prepared a special "Fuck You" for Fulgrim: a Horus Heresy-era Virus Bomb, which he was sitting on and then detonated.

	Buuuut a Thousand Sons psyker named Akhtar contained the blast, while Fulgrim opened up the Dreadnought like a can of peaches, and offered Rylanor a chance to become like him, but Rylanor told Fulgrim to shove it up his scaly arse. Another Thousand Sons, ~~Vistorio~~, impressed by Rylanor's massive balls in front of Fulgrim and not wishing to see Rylanor become Fulgrim's personal fleshlight, pulled up his Bolt-Pistol and capped Akhtar. The Life-Eater Virus was free and consumed Istvaan III and everyone there. Snakey-Boi Fulgrim survived, but his pride was wounded in a way few others possibly could.		Buuuut a Thousand Sons psyker named Akhtar contained the blast, while Fulgrim opened up the Dreadnought like a can of peaches, and offered Rylanor a chance to become like him, but Rylanor told Fulgrim to shove it up his scaly arse. Another Thousand Sons and Akhtar's boss, Malin Vistario, impressed by Rylanor's massive balls in front of Fulgrim and not wishing to see Rylanor become Fulgrim's personal fleshlight, psychically conferred with Akhtar and his other subordinate sorcerer Murshid, they agreed that all three were willing to betray Chaos to let Rylanor's attack go through out of a combination of respect for Rylanor and disgust at Fulgrim. With Akhtar being unable to withdraw the psychic shield without succumbing to the warp due to the sheer effort he was putting in, Vistario pulled up his Bolt Pistol and capped Akhtar to both spare Akhtar's soul to at least face whatever was coming together with Vistario and Murshid and to let the Virus Bomb detonate. The Life-Eater Virus was free and consumed Istvaan III and everyone there. Snakey-Boi Fulgrim survived, but his pride was wounded in a way few others possibly could.

	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==

2600:387:9:9:0:0:0:17: Idk if we can even call that snake thing fulgrim his entire personality sorta reversed. Shame for murdering his brothers became a pride. And his search for personal improvement became an arrogant assertion of already being "perfect". Tldr; Snakegrim is damned.

2023-05-12T15:12:28Z

Idk if we can even call that snake thing fulgrim his entire personality sorta reversed. Shame for murdering his brothers became a pride. And his search for personal improvement became an arrogant assertion of already being "perfect". Tldr; Snakegrim is damned.

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	File:I would read it.jpg\|The vidya geam		File:I would read it.jpg\|The vidya geam
	Image:1429866033465.jpg\|In a way, he's kinda like the galactic bicycle of Primarchs.		Image:1429866033465.jpg\|In a way, he's kinda like the galactic bicycle of Primarchs.
	File:10962088 973159792695856 706338122 n.jpg\| Fulgrim after his ascension.		File:10962088 973159792695856 706338122 n.jpg\| Fulgrim after his <s>ascension</s> damnation.
	File:REFLECTION CRACK'D by Natalia Kikicheva.jpg\| Not Pictured: the Pear of Anguish		File:REFLECTION CRACK'D by Natalia Kikicheva.jpg\| Not Pictured: the Pear of Anguish
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2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:B87B:B2A8:7019:FCD at 19:02, 10 May 2023

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216.15.33.237: /* Heresy 2.0 */

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Heresy 2.0

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	:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Ferrus Manus wins by a little~~, but his bodyguards suck so it's probably fine~~.		:Ferrus Manus wins by a little.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''

2001:8003:1C20:8C00:A03F:19EE:6A3E:6BBB: In essence, the fights are supposed to be in a "Vacuum" for simplicity, but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances.

2023-01-23T15:24:43Z

In essence, the fights are supposed to be in a "Vacuum" for simplicity, but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances.

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	*'''The Blade of the Laer:''' S6, AP2, Melee, Duellist's Edge (1), Fleshbane, Master-crafted, Specialist Weapon. Duellist's Edge buffs his initiative up to 10 in a challenge when charging, granting an extra attack with Sublime Swordsman. Fleshbane lets you wound [[Rogal Dorn\| almost]] all non-vehicles on a 2+, which can make him pretty terrifying in a duel despite the S6. [[Fail\|Despite that, keep in mind that he doesn't have any way to ID marines with this weapon.]]		*'''The Blade of the Laer:''' S6, AP2, Melee, Duellist's Edge (1), Fleshbane, Master-crafted, Specialist Weapon. Duellist's Edge buffs his initiative up to 10 in a challenge when charging, granting an extra attack with Sublime Swordsman. Fleshbane lets you wound [[Rogal Dorn\| almost]] all non-vehicles on a 2+, which can make him pretty terrifying in a duel despite the S6. [[Fail\|Despite that, keep in mind that he doesn't have any way to ID marines with this weapon.]]
	*'''Fireblade:''' S7, AP2, Melee, Murderous Strike (5+), Master-Crafted, Specialist Weapon. The sword Ferrus Manus forged for Fulgrim isn't as completely dominant over the Laer blade as it was last edition due to the latter gaining Fleshbane, but it's arguably still better at killing marines, able to ID them on a 5+ to wound.		*'''Fireblade:''' S7, AP2, Melee, Murderous Strike (5+), Master-Crafted, Specialist Weapon. The sword Ferrus Manus forged for Fulgrim isn't as completely dominant over the Laer blade as it was last edition due to the latter gaining Fleshbane, but it's arguably still better at killing marines, able to ID them on a 5+ to wound.
	*'''Firebrand:''' S6, AP4, Pistol 2, Deflagrate, Shred, Master-Crafted. Fulgrim's souped up volkite pistol. Shred and Master-Crafted make it noticeably deadlier than a normal volkite serpenta, but ~~it's by~~ far ~~the worst~~ Primarch ~~ranged weapon~~, ~~and~~ it's not ~~even close~~.		*'''Firebrand:''' S6, AP4, Pistol 2, Deflagrate, Shred, Master-Crafted. Fulgrim's souped up volkite pistol. Shred and Master-Crafted make it noticeably deadlier than a normal volkite serpenta, but as far as Primarch sidearms go, it's not great.
	*'''The Gilded Panoply:''' Gives Fulgrim a standard Primarch 2+/4++ save, [[Awesome\|which increases to a 2+/3++ in close combat.]]		*'''The Gilded Panoply:''' Gives Fulgrim a standard Primarch 2+/4++ save, [[Awesome\|which increases to a 2+/3++ in close combat.]]

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	Generally, each Primarch has a number of things that can increase their odds in duels with their fellow brother-Primarchs. For Fulgrim, they are somewhat limited-- the main thing that can affect Fulgrim's performance in duels is the presence of Lucius to confer Preferred Enemy (Independent Characters). In duels where Fulgrim would otherwise lose, you'll see I've done the math with that in consideration.


	'''Fulgrim vs. The Lion'''		'''Fulgrim vs. The Lion'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.73 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.4 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.73 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.4 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.99 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.65 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.99 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.65 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''2.19 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.85 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''2.19 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.85 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	~~::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 0, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+, re-rolling 1s)'': 5.42 hits, 5.27 wounds, '''2.64 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.31 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.~~
	:Leman Russ with the Sword of Balenight ''(Hits on MC 4+)'': 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Leman Russ with the Sword of Balenight ''(Hits on MC 4+)'': 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Leman Russ charging with the Sword of Balenight ''(+1 WS due to legion trait)'': 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Leman Russ charging with the Sword of Balenight ''(+1 WS due to legion trait)'': 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
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	:Russ wins.		:Russ wins.
	~~::Fulgrim wins if Lucius is present to confer PE(IC).~~

	'''Fulgrim vs. Rogal Dorn'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Rogal Dorn'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 4.75 hits, 2.38 wounds, '''1.19 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.85 at the end of the next turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 4.75 hits, 2.38 wounds, '''1.19 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.85 at the end of the next turn thanks to IWND.
	~~::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 5.42 hits, 3.16 wounds, '''1.58 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.25 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.~~
	:Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 4+)'': 3 hits, 2.91 wounds, '''0.97 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.64 at the end of next turn thanks to IWND.		:Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 4+)'': 3 hits, 2.91 wounds, '''0.97 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.64 at the end of next turn thanks to IWND.
	::Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.3 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.3 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	~~:Fulgrim wins.~~		:Dorn wins with reaping blow. Due to only being wounded on a 4+, he effectively reduces Fulgrim's damage output by 40%, while still doing a substantial amount of damage on his own.
	::Dorn wins with reaping blow. Due to only being wounded on a 4+, he effectively reduces Fulgrim's damage output by 40%, while still doing a substantial amount of damage on his own.
	~~::If Lucius is present, Fulgrim wins, even if Dorn has Reaping Blow~~.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Konrad Curze'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Konrad Curze'''
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.2 hits, 5.17 wounds, '''1.72 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.38 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.2 hits, 5.17 wounds, '''1.72 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.38 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Fulgrim charging with the Laer Blade '''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+): 6.87 hits, 5.73 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.57 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Fulgrim charging with the Laer Blade '''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+): 6.87 hits, 5.73 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.57 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	~~::Fulgrim with Lucius: 7.11 hits, 6.91 wounds, '''2.30 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.~~
	:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Ferrus Manus wins.		:Ferrus Manus wins by a little, but his bodyguards suck so it's probably fine.
	~~::If Fulgrim has Lucius~~, ~~he wins~~.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.22 hits, 5.18 wounds, '''2.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.26 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.22 hits, 5.18 wounds, '''2.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.26 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Magnus with the Blade of Ahn-Nunurta ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.22 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Magnus with the Blade of Ahn-Nunurta ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.22 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Horus'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Horus'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+):'' 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.33 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.99 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+):'' 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.33 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.99 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +4 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''1.46 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.13 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	~~::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+, re-rolling 1s)'': 5.42 hits, 5.27 wounds, '''1.76 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.43 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.~~
	:Horus with Worldbreaker ''(Hits on MC 4+): 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Horus with Worldbreaker ''(Hits on MC 4+): 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
			:Horus wins, due to having WS8 and Brutal.
	:Horus wins, due to Brutal ~~(2)~~.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Vulkan'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Vulkan'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.41 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.41 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Vulkan with Dawnbringer ''(Hits on MC 5+):'' 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''0.616 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.29 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Vulkan with Dawnbringer ''(Hits on MC 5+):'' 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''0.616 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.29 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.14 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.81 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.14 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.81 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Corax with The Panoply of the Raven Lord ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2.33 hits, 1.75 wounds, '''0.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.196 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Corax with The Panoply of the Raven Lord ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2.33 hits, 1.75 wounds, '''0.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.196 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''2.87 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.54 after IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''2.87 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.54 after IWND.
	:Alpharius with the Pale Spear ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.23 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Alpharius with the Pale Spear ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.23 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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2023-01-23T14:51:17Z

Heresy 2.0

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	*'''The Blade of the Laer:''' S6, AP2, Melee, Duellist's Edge (1), Fleshbane, Master-crafted, Specialist Weapon. Duellist's Edge buffs his initiative up to 10 in a challenge when charging, granting an extra attack with Sublime Swordsman. Fleshbane lets you wound [[Rogal Dorn\| almost]] all non-vehicles on a 2+, which can make him pretty terrifying in a duel despite the S6. [[Fail\|Despite that, keep in mind that he doesn't have any way to ID marines with this weapon.]]		*'''The Blade of the Laer:''' S6, AP2, Melee, Duellist's Edge (1), Fleshbane, Master-crafted, Specialist Weapon. Duellist's Edge buffs his initiative up to 10 in a challenge when charging, granting an extra attack with Sublime Swordsman. Fleshbane lets you wound [[Rogal Dorn\| almost]] all non-vehicles on a 2+, which can make him pretty terrifying in a duel despite the S6. [[Fail\|Despite that, keep in mind that he doesn't have any way to ID marines with this weapon.]]
	*'''Fireblade:''' S7, AP2, Melee, Murderous Strike (5+), Master-Crafted, Specialist Weapon. The sword Ferrus Manus forged for Fulgrim isn't as completely dominant over the Laer blade as it was last edition due to the latter gaining Fleshbane, but it's arguably still better at killing marines, able to ID them on a 5+ to wound.		*'''Fireblade:''' S7, AP2, Melee, Murderous Strike (5+), Master-Crafted, Specialist Weapon. The sword Ferrus Manus forged for Fulgrim isn't as completely dominant over the Laer blade as it was last edition due to the latter gaining Fleshbane, but it's arguably still better at killing marines, able to ID them on a 5+ to wound.
	*'''Firebrand:''' S6, AP4, Pistol 2, Deflagrate, Shred, Master-Crafted. Fulgrim's souped up volkite pistol. Shred and Master-Crafted make it noticeably deadlier than a normal volkite serpenta, but as far as Primarch ~~sidearms go~~, it's not ~~great~~.		*'''Firebrand:''' S6, AP4, Pistol 2, Deflagrate, Shred, Master-Crafted. Fulgrim's souped up volkite pistol. Shred and Master-Crafted make it noticeably deadlier than a normal volkite serpenta, but it's by far the worst Primarch ranged weapon, and it's not even close.
	*'''The Gilded Panoply:''' Gives Fulgrim a standard Primarch 2+/4++ save, [[Awesome\|which increases to a 2+/3++ in close combat.]]		*'''The Gilded Panoply:''' Gives Fulgrim a standard Primarch 2+/4++ save, [[Awesome\|which increases to a 2+/3++ in close combat.]]

216.15.33.237: /* 30k Fulgrim Vs other Primarchs: Heresy 2.0 */

2023-01-23T14:49:46Z

30k Fulgrim Vs other Primarchs: Heresy 2.0

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			Generally, each Primarch has a number of things that can increase their odds in duels with their fellow brother-Primarchs. For Fulgrim, they are somewhat limited-- the main thing that can affect Fulgrim's performance in duels is the presence of Lucius to confer Preferred Enemy (Independent Characters). In duels where Fulgrim would otherwise lose, you'll see I've done the math with that in consideration.


	'''Fulgrim vs. The Lion'''		'''Fulgrim vs. The Lion'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.73 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.4 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.73 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.4 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.99 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.65 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.99 unsaved wounds''', which is reduced to 1.65 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''2.19 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.85 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''2.19 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.85 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
			::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 0, +2 attacks, hits on MC 4+, re-rolling 1s)'': 5.42 hits, 5.27 wounds, '''2.64 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.31 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Leman Russ with the Sword of Balenight ''(Hits on MC 4+)'': 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Leman Russ with the Sword of Balenight ''(Hits on MC 4+)'': 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Leman Russ charging with the Sword of Balenight ''(+1 WS due to legion trait)'': 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Leman Russ charging with the Sword of Balenight ''(+1 WS due to legion trait)'': 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
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	:Russ wins.		:Russ wins.
			::Fulgrim wins if Lucius is present to confer PE(IC).

	'''Fulgrim vs. Rogal Dorn'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Rogal Dorn'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 4.75 hits, 2.38 wounds, '''1.19 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.85 at the end of the next turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 4.75 hits, 2.38 wounds, '''1.19 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.85 at the end of the next turn thanks to IWND.
			::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, Hits on MC 4+)'': 5.42 hits, 3.16 wounds, '''1.58 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.25 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 4+)'': 3 hits, 2.91 wounds, '''0.97 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.64 at the end of next turn thanks to IWND.		:Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 4+)'': 3 hits, 2.91 wounds, '''0.97 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.64 at the end of next turn thanks to IWND.
	::Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.3 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.3 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Dorn wins with reaping blow. Due to only being wounded on a 4+, he effectively reduces Fulgrim's damage output by 40%, while still doing a substantial amount of damage on his own.		:Fulgrim wins.
			::Dorn wins with reaping blow. Due to only being wounded on a 4+, he effectively reduces Fulgrim's damage output by 40%, while still doing a substantial amount of damage on his own.
			::If Lucius is present, Fulgrim wins, even if Dorn has Reaping Blow.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Konrad Curze'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Konrad Curze'''
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.2 hits, 5.17 wounds, '''1.72 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.38 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.2 hits, 5.17 wounds, '''1.72 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.38 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Fulgrim charging with the Laer Blade '''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+): 6.87 hits, 5.73 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.57 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		::Fulgrim charging with the Laer Blade '''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+): 6.87 hits, 5.73 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.57 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
			::Fulgrim with Lucius: 7.11 hits, 6.91 wounds, '''2.30 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.97 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''1.85 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.51 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Ferrus Manus wins ~~by a little~~, ~~but his bodyguards suck so it's probably fine~~.		:Ferrus Manus wins.
			::If Fulgrim has Lucius, he wins.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Angron'''
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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.22 hits, 5.18 wounds, '''2.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.26 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.22 hits, 5.18 wounds, '''2.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.26 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Magnus with the Blade of Ahn-Nunurta ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.22 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Magnus with the Blade of Ahn-Nunurta ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.22 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

	'''Fulgrim vs. Horus'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Horus'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+):'' 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.33 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.99 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+):'' 4.75 hits, 3.98 wounds, '''1.33 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.99 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
			::Fulgrim, charging with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 10, +4 attacks, hits on MC 4+)''. 5.25 hits, 4.375 wounds, '''1.46 unsaved wounds''' which is reduced to 1.13 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
			::Fulgrim with Lucius ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 4+, re-rolling 1s)'': 5.42 hits, 5.27 wounds, '''1.76 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.43 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Horus with Worldbreaker ''(Hits on MC 4+): 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Horus with Worldbreaker ''(Hits on MC 4+): 3.75 hits, 3.13 wounds, '''2.09 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.75 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Horus wins, due to ~~having WS8 and~~ Brutal.
			:Horus wins, due to Brutal (2).

	'''Fulgrim vs. Vulkan'''		'''Fulgrim vs. Vulkan'''
	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.41 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +4 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''1.91 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.41 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Vulkan with Dawnbringer ''(Hits on MC 5+):'' 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''0.616 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.29 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Vulkan with Dawnbringer ''(Hits on MC 5+):'' 2.22 hits, 1.85 wounds, '''0.616 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.29 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.14 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.81 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +2 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 5.56 hits, 4.63 wounds, '''3.14 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.81 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Corax with The Panoply of the Raven Lord ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2.33 hits, 1.75 wounds, '''0.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.196 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Corax with The Panoply of the Raven Lord ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2.33 hits, 1.75 wounds, '''0.59 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.196 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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	:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''2.87 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.54 after IWND.		:Fulgrim with the Laer Blade ''(Initiative 9, +3 attacks, hits on MC 3+):'' 6.89 hits, 5.74 wounds, '''2.87 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 2.54 after IWND.
	:Alpharius with the Pale Spear ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.23 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		:Alpharius with the Pale Spear ''(Hits on 5+):'' 2 hits, 1.67 wounds, '''0.56 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.23 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:Fulgrim wins.		:Fulgrim wins.

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