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	==The Legend==		==The Legend==

	A long time ago, in Parravon there lived a young [[Bretonnia\|Bretonnian]] (French) girl who lived in luxury along with the rest of her family. This was due to her father who was a servant to the local knightly lord.		A long time ago, in Parravon there lived a young [[Bretonnia\|Bretonnian]] (French) girl who lived in luxury along with the rest of her family. This was due to her father who was a servant to the local knightly lord.
	Then [[Drachenfels\|a big meanie named Drachenfels]] invaded, killing fuckloads of people and executing all the nobles while plundering the province.		Then [[Drachenfels\|a big meanie named Drachenfels]] invaded, killing fuckloads of people and executing all the nobles while plundering the province.
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	===[[End Times]]===		===[[End Times]]===

	Later it was revealed that Drachenfels was not quite as dead as everyone had hoped. During the End Times he appeared again as a bodiless spirit with no memory of who he was. Turns out getting your head caved in with a divinely enhanced hammer when your only halfway resurrected is a good way to end up with a severe case of amnesia. [[Nagash]] stumbled across Drachenfels and recognizing him from an earlier encounter when he had enlisted his aid against the then mortal Sigmar promised to return Drach’s memories and name to him if he served him as a servant. Fortunately for the undead Bretonnian bar wench, Nagash reneged on his promise, and Drach after angrily switching sides to join [[Chaos]] would find himself put down for good when he made the mistake of possessing a certain very devout Sigmarite priest named [[Luthor Huss]]. Though initially in control of his new body a few choice insults by [[Vlad von Carstein]] ultimately managed to awaken the priest’s dormant consciousness and his surging Sigmarite faith seemingly flash-fried the spectral bastard out of existence.		Later it was revealed that Drachenfels was not quite as dead as everyone had hoped. During the End Times he appeared again as a bodiless spirit with no memory of who he was. Turns out getting your head caved in with a divinely enhanced hammer when your only halfway resurrected is a good way to end up with a severe case of amnesia. [[Nagash]] stumbled across Drachenfels and recognizing him from an earlier encounter when he had enlisted his aid against the then mortal Sigmar promised to return Drach’s memories and name to him if he served him as a servant. Fortunately for the undead Bretonnian bar wench, Nagash reneged on his promise, and Drach after angrily switching sides to join [[Chaos]] would find himself put down for good when he made the mistake of possessing a certain very devout Sigmarite priest named [[Luthor Huss]]. Though initially in control of his new body a few choice insults by [[Vlad von Carstein]] ultimately managed to awaken the priest’s dormant consciousness and his surging Sigmarite faith seemingly flash-fried the spectral bastard out of existence.

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	==Canon?==		==Canon?==

	The Drachenfels and Genevieve stories rely on canon that has since been retconned, and any discussion about either will usually start an [[Skub\|argument]] over the canonicity of the story. To get a picture of how retconned it is, the Bretonnia of her stories is modeled on the pre-French revolution version that was written over YEARS ago. The fact she's a very popular character in the Warhammer Fantasy communities, and her books are generally regarded as being very well written makes those discussions particularly heated.		The Drachenfels and Genevieve stories rely on canon that has since been retconned, and any discussion about either will usually start an [[Skub\|argument]] over the canonicity of the story. To get a picture of how retconned it is, the Bretonnia of her stories is modeled on the pre-French revolution version that was written over YEARS ago. The fact she's a very popular character in the Warhammer Fantasy communities, and her books are generally regarded as being very well written makes those discussions particularly heated.

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	==On the Tabletop==		==On the Tabletop==

	Genevieve, thanks to her globe-trotting lifestyle, could be fluffed into most Order armies. Of course Empire and Bretonnia armies work best, as does the player who fields a homemade Cathayan army. For a model the Bretonnian Damsels or the Vampire maidens off the Coven Throne model work best.		Genevieve, thanks to her globe-trotting lifestyle, could be fluffed into most Order armies. Of course Empire and Bretonnia armies work best, as does the player who fields a homemade Cathayan army. For a model the Bretonnian Damsels or the Vampire maidens off the Coven Throne model work best.
	If using End Times rules, then a wizard in [[Lore of Undeath]] works as well.		If using End Times rules, then a wizard in [[Lore of Undeath]] works as well.

	[[Category: Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Category: Vampire Counts]] [[Category: Empire]] [[Category: Bretonnia]][[Category:France]]		[[Category: Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Category: Vampire Counts]] [[Category: Empire]] [[Category: Bretonnia]][[Category:France]]

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	In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.		In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.

	Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character. We might get a better understanding in the near future as a Warhammer Community post hinted that she and another blood drinker, [[Ulrika the Vampire]] from the [[Gotrek & Felix]] series, might be coming back possibly even as tabletop characters…or maybe they’re just fucking with us. Time will tell!		Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character. We might get a better understanding of the truth of this matter in the near future as a Warhammer Community post hinted that she and another blood drinker, [[Ulrika the Vampire]] from the [[Gotrek & Felix]] series, might be coming back possibly even as tabletop characters…or maybe they’re just fucking with us. Time will tell!

	==Canon?==		==Canon?==

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	The kicker is that in this meeting Gelt notes that the unnamed girl sounds like a Bretonnian from Parravon or Montfort, is very young and drinks a ruby liquid from a goblet. She also states she does not like her female master. Considering that Genevieve is a notably free-willed and independent Lahmian Vampire from Parravon and that otherwise, all Lahmians revere Neferata, this seems like a suggestive nod from GW to the audience as to who this woman is, though it looks like coincidental evidence, but pretty cool nonetheless. As to WHY Genevieve may want to work for her progenitor Neferata considering she has ignored more malevolent vampires in the past, she could just have an alignment of interests with her in not wanting to see the world ended or it's her way of serving Nagash so he doesn't set her brain on fire inside her skull (like he did with all Vampires who refused to serve him, such as [[Zacharias The Everliving]]) since as a Vampire Genevieve would certainly have felt Nagash's return.		The kicker is that in this meeting Gelt notes that the unnamed girl sounds like a Bretonnian from Parravon or Montfort, is very young and drinks a ruby liquid from a goblet. She also states she does not like her female master. Considering that Genevieve is a notably free-willed and independent Lahmian Vampire from Parravon and that otherwise, all Lahmians revere Neferata, this seems like a suggestive nod from GW to the audience as to who this woman is, though it looks like coincidental evidence, but pretty cool nonetheless. As to WHY Genevieve may want to work for her progenitor Neferata considering she has ignored more malevolent vampires in the past, she could just have an alignment of interests with her in not wanting to see the world ended or it's her way of serving Nagash so he doesn't set her brain on fire inside her skull (like he did with all Vampires who refused to serve him, such as [[Zacharias The Everliving]]) since as a Vampire Genevieve would certainly have felt Nagash's return.

	During Karl's ascendance into God Emperorhood during End Times: Archaon, a wave of holy magic radiated through Altdorf and burned away the filth of generations (as well as all daemons and undead). This likely did not include her though as earlier in the book she had been off delivering a message of warning from Neferata to Vlad von Carstein before telling him she intends to go home, something which many people took to mean Bretonnia. In her own words: "My time in this world is coming to an end, just as yours is, and I think I would rather meet it in my homeland." Even if she had come to see Altdorf as her home due to her time with Detlef she likely survived the blast of holy energy despite her undead nature, as according to her novels Karl and his son Luitpold II were rather fond of her thanks to her actions against Drachenfels. Regardless she most definitely was killed when Archaon managed to blow the planet up at the end of the whole End Times mess. ~~As of yet,~~ there ~~has~~ been no trace of her in Age of Sigmar so ~~it’s~~ unclear if her soul made the transition to the new world~~. UNTIL NOW! Read~~ Gothghul Hollow!		During Karl's ascendance into God Emperorhood during End Times: Archaon, a wave of holy magic radiated through Altdorf and burned away the filth of generations (as well as all daemons and undead). This likely did not include her though as earlier in the book she had been off delivering a message of warning from Neferata to Vlad von Carstein before telling him she intends to go home, something which many people took to mean Bretonnia. In her own words: "My time in this world is coming to an end, just as yours is, and I think I would rather meet it in my homeland." Even if she had come to see Altdorf as her home due to her time with Detlef she likely survived the blast of holy energy despite her undead nature, as according to her novels Karl and his son Luitpold II were rather fond of her thanks to her actions against Drachenfels. Regardless she most definitely was killed when Archaon managed to blow the planet up at the end of the whole End Times mess. For a long time there had been no trace of her in Age of Sigmar so it was unclear if her soul made the transition to the new world, however that all changed with the release of the novel Gothghul Hollow!

	[[Image:Vampire-Genevieve.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|]]		[[Image:Vampire-Genevieve.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|]]

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	In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.		In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.

	Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character. We might get a better understanding in the near future as a Warhammer Community post hinted that she and another blood drinker, [[Ulrika the Vampire]] from the [[Gotrek ~~and~~ Felix]] series, might be coming back possibly even as tabletop characters…or maybe they’re just fucking with us. Time will tell!		Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character. We might get a better understanding in the near future as a Warhammer Community post hinted that she and another blood drinker, [[Ulrika the Vampire]] from the [[Gotrek & Felix]] series, might be coming back possibly even as tabletop characters…or maybe they’re just fucking with us. Time will tell!

	==Canon?==		==Canon?==

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	In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.		In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.

	Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character.		Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character. We might get a better understanding in the near future as a Warhammer Community post hinted that she and another blood drinker, [[Ulrika the Vampire]] from the [[Gotrek and Felix]] series, might be coming back possibly even as tabletop characters…or maybe they’re just fucking with us. Time will tell!

	==Canon?==		==Canon?==

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	===[[End Times]]===		===[[End Times]]===

	Later it was revealed that Drachenfels was not quite as dead as everyone had hoped. During the End Times he appeared again as a bodiless spirit with no memory of who he was. Turns out getting your head caved in with a divinely enhanced hammer when your only halfway resurrected is a good way to end up with a severe case of amnesia. [[Nagash]] stumbled across Drachenfels and recognizing him from an earlier encounter when he had enlisted his aid against the then mortal Sigmar promised to return Drach’s memories and name to him if he served him as a servant. Fortunately for the undead Bretonnian bar wench, Nagash reneged on his promise, and Drach after angrily switching sides to join [[Chaos]] would find himself put down for good when he made the mistake of possessing a certain very devout Sigmarite priest named Luthor Huss. Though initially in control of his new body a few choice insults by [[Vlad von Carstein]] ultimately managed to awaken the priest’s dormant consciousness and his surging Sigmarite faith seemingly flash-fried the spectral bastard out of existence.		Later it was revealed that Drachenfels was not quite as dead as everyone had hoped. During the End Times he appeared again as a bodiless spirit with no memory of who he was. Turns out getting your head caved in with a divinely enhanced hammer when your only halfway resurrected is a good way to end up with a severe case of amnesia. [[Nagash]] stumbled across Drachenfels and recognizing him from an earlier encounter when he had enlisted his aid against the then mortal Sigmar promised to return Drach’s memories and name to him if he served him as a servant. Fortunately for the undead Bretonnian bar wench, Nagash reneged on his promise, and Drach after angrily switching sides to join [[Chaos]] would find himself put down for good when he made the mistake of possessing a certain very devout Sigmarite priest named [[Luthor Huss]]. Though initially in control of his new body a few choice insults by [[Vlad von Carstein]] ultimately managed to awaken the priest’s dormant consciousness and his surging Sigmarite faith seemingly flash-fried the spectral bastard out of existence.

	Genevieve herself MAY have had a fleeting unnamed cameo in the lorebook End Times: Nagash. One of the short lore pieces goes into detail about a mysterious meeting that [[Balthasar Gelt]] has with an unnamed woman cloaked in shadow and who basically feeds him the idea and plans for the Auric Bastion to stop the Chaos invasion. This is later revealed to be the minion of Queen [[Neferata]], the top Lahmian vampire, as the Vampires have a vested interest in the world continuing and not being destroyed.		Genevieve herself MAY have had a fleeting unnamed cameo in the lorebook End Times: Nagash. One of the short lore pieces goes into detail about a mysterious meeting that [[Balthasar Gelt]] has with an unnamed woman cloaked in shadow and who basically feeds him the idea and plans for the Auric Bastion to stop the Chaos invasion. This is later revealed to be the minion of Queen [[Neferata]], the top Lahmian vampire, as the Vampires have a vested interest in the world continuing and not being destroyed.

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	==Age of Sigmar==		==Age of Sigmar==
			In the [[Warhammer Horror]] novel "Gothgul Hollow", at the very end of the novel, our protagonists succeed in summoning the spirit that has been haunting them, and she is revealed to be a [[vampire]], a woman turned when she was, quote, "very young; barely into womanhood", with a slender build, pale skin and dark hair. We don't learn very much about this vampire, other than that she has spent an unknown amount of time, theorized to be centuries or more, sealed in "the place that is not a place", a kind of void between worlds, by entities she refers to as "The Fallen Four" and "The Heralds", who are connected to some upcoming apocalyptic threat she was trying to stop called the Mhurghast. As the very last line in the book, she gives her name: Genevieve Dieudonné.

	~~She~~ has ~~apparently made~~ it up to the ~~Mortal Realms in~~ the ~~story Gothghul Hollow~~.		Waving aside the difficulties in expanding on something that has clearly been set up for a sequel which hasn't manifested yet, it's unclear if this is supposed to be Genevieve or merely namedropping an old name without properly understanding it. In our very brief interaction with her, this vampire is presented as a haughty, aloof, smug and callous figure, who openly treats the mortals she interacts with as beneath her and makes casual reference to having given "The Dark Kiss" (vampirehood) to so many others she can't remember them all. It's anyone's guess at the moment if this is supposed to be an older, more jaded Genevieve, grown far darker since the destruction of the world-that-was, or if this is just another case of an auther either having no idea how to properly write a pre-existing character or choosing to ignore everything about them to put her own stamp on the character.

	==Canon?==		==Canon?==