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1d4chan>Arisano: /* Change, Limbo, Etc. */

2022-10-04T21:52:43Z

Change, Limbo, Etc.

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	Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.		Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.

	As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect. Another reason may be that natives of Limbo are Slaadi, and they don't give a ribbit about anything that isn't their prey.		As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect. Another reason may be that natives of Limbo are Slaadi, and they don't give a ribbit about anything that isn't their prey, while the prey is simply hunted down by them without raising any philosophical questions.

	==Statblocks==		==Statblocks==

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* 5th Edition */

2022-02-22T03:37:26Z

5th Edition

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	::Githzerai Psionics: Mage Hand at-will, Shield 1/day at 3rd level, Detect Thoughts 1/day at 5th level, all keying off of Wisdom.		::Githzerai Psionics: Mage Hand at-will, Shield 1/day at 3rd level, Detect Thoughts 1/day at 5th level, all keying off of Wisdom.

	Gith PCs were used in a teaser adventure previewing ''Mordekainen's Tome of Foes'', letting fans get an early look at the official version. Githzerai changed the most, swapping the Monastic Training feature for the new Mental Discipline feature, which gives them Advantage to saves against the Charm and Fear conditions. ''Mordekainen's Monsters of the Multiverse'' would give them a rewrite, providing the generic +2 to two stats/+1 to three stats made standard by recent books and replacing their AC boost with both resistance to psychic damage and advantage to all saves against the Charmed or Frightened condition.		Gith PCs were used in a teaser adventure previewing ''Mordekainen's Tome of Foes'', letting fans get an early look at the official version. Githzerai changed the most, swapping the Monastic Training feature for the new Mental Discipline feature, which gives them Advantage to saves against the Charm and Fear conditions. ''Mordekainen's Monsters of the Multiverse'' would give them a rewrite, providing the generic +2/+1 to two stats/+1 to three stats made standard by recent books and replacing their AC boost with both resistance to psychic damage and advantage to all saves against the Charmed or Frightened condition.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* 5th Edition */

2022-02-21T22:14:34Z

5th Edition

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	::Githzerai Psionics: Mage Hand at-will, Shield 1/day at 3rd level, Detect Thoughts 1/day at 5th level, all keying off of Wisdom.		::Githzerai Psionics: Mage Hand at-will, Shield 1/day at 3rd level, Detect Thoughts 1/day at 5th level, all keying off of Wisdom.

	Gith PCs were used in a teaser adventure previewing ~~the~~ Tome of Foes, letting fans get an early look at the official version. Githzerai changed the most, swapping the Monastic Training feature for the new Mental Discipline feature, which gives them Advantage to saves against the Charm and Fear conditions.		Gith PCs were used in a teaser adventure previewing ''Mordekainen's Tome of Foes'', letting fans get an early look at the official version. Githzerai changed the most, swapping the Monastic Training feature for the new Mental Discipline feature, which gives them Advantage to saves against the Charm and Fear conditions. ''Mordekainen's Monsters of the Multiverse'' would give them a rewrite, providing the generic +2 to two stats/+1 to three stats made standard by recent books and replacing their AC boost with both resistance to psychic damage and advantage to all saves against the Charmed or Frightened condition.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

5.128.33.17: /* Change, Limbo, Etc. */

2021-05-17T15:19:08Z

Change, Limbo, Etc.

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	Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.		Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.

	As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect. Another reason may be that natives of Limbo are Slaadi, and they don't give ribbit about anything that isn't their prey.		As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect. Another reason may be that natives of Limbo are Slaadi, and they don't give a ribbit about anything that isn't their prey.

	==Statblocks==		==Statblocks==

5.128.33.17: /* Change, Limbo, Etc. */

2021-05-17T15:18:42Z

Change, Limbo, Etc.

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	Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.		Is this also Dak'kon's legacy? Well... yes and no. Dak'kon was given a more "Fu Manchu Elf" sort of appearance for his personal model, but was still pretty Caucasian-skinned. ''Torment'' did recycle the githyanki sprites for githzerai sprites, though, so it might have influenced WoTC... or it just might have been the new management deciding it made more sense that the two races with common ancestry should actually look alike.

	As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect.		As to how such Lawful entities can exist in Limbo, a place of pure Chaos? Oddly, as they do not insist on others outside their islands following their codes, they wouldn't have much more trouble than any other Limbo resident: an honest Chaotic Neutral type can respect the kind of discipline that doesn't impose itself on others, particularly if it sees value in your chaos. In particular, even if you stick to Orderly ways, rebelling against both of a pair of diametrically opposed Lawful Evil orders (especially if your rebellion against one of them is motivated by seeing their Order as being harmful to its followers--in other words, at least partly because of seeing the Githyanki as being too Lawful, in addition to too Evil) is very much a thing any Chaotic-aligned character can respect. Another reason may be that natives of Limbo are Slaadi, and they don't give ribbit about anything that isn't their prey.

	==Statblocks==		==Statblocks==

1d4chan>Nubnuber: /* Gallery */

2021-01-18T18:13:22Z

Gallery

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	==Gallery==		==Gallery==
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	~~Image:~~Githzerai_1e.jpg\|Can you believe this is how they used to look?		Githzerai_1e.jpg\|Can you believe this is how they used to look?
	~~Image:~~Githzerai_2e.png\|Nope, color doesn't make it any less stupid.		Githzerai_2e.png\|Nope, color doesn't make it any less stupid. (And the pink underpants definitely don't help.)
	~~Image:~~Githzerai_3e.jpg\|Now we're talking.		Githzerai_3e.jpg\|Now we're talking.
	~~Image:~~Githzerai_4e.jpg\|And they're the good guys, who could guess?		Githzerai_4e.jpg\|And they're the good guys, who could guess?
	~~File:~~3e Giths.jpg		3e Giths.jpg
	~~File:~~Githzerai Family.jpg		Githzerai enlightened anarch.jpg
	~~File:~~Githzerai Monk vs Oni.jpg		Githzerai Family.jpg
	~~File:~~Rrathmal.jpg		Githzerai Monk vs Oni.jpg
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1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Added a brief note on Dragon 378's Playing Githzerai.

2020-10-06T01:25:57Z

Added a brief note on Dragon 378's Playing Githzerai.

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	The 4e PHB 3 also gave githzerai a racial paragon path in the form of the Rrathmal, based on the traditional leaders of the githzerai rrakkmas, or elite trouble-shooting bands dedicated to hunting illithids and other enemies of the githzerai people.		The 4e PHB 3 also gave githzerai a racial paragon path in the form of the Rrathmal, based on the traditional leaders of the githzerai rrakkmas, or elite trouble-shooting bands dedicated to hunting illithids and other enemies of the githzerai people.

			They have a dedicated article (and a preview of the PHB3 PC statblock) in [[Dragon Magazine]] #378, which is titled "Playing Githzerai". Two of the biggest lore tweaks about githzerai in the [[World Axis]] is that it establishes that there ''are'' communities of githzerai in the mortal world (which makes them a lot easier to incorporate into a non-planar campaign), and also that, whilst the githzerai tend to be leery of gods, there are some who worship the [[Primal Spirits]], either singularly or by incorporating them into their various [[psionics]]-based spiritual systems.

	===5th Edition===		===5th Edition===

1d4chan>SpectralTime: /* Change, Limbo, Etc. */

2020-06-03T21:59:46Z

Change, Limbo, Etc.

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	That said, despite their hyper-lawful associations ''now'' - in contrast to the githyanki, who are essentially mixture of the three [[Just as planned\|most]] [[RIP AND TEAR\|annoying]] [[Munchkin\|prick]] archetypes - the githzerai weren't always this way. Whilst some lore trappings have remained the same, originally, githzerai were a highly ''Chaotic'' race, to the point that one of their original PC limitations was "you cannot be a Lawful alignment".		That said, despite their hyper-lawful associations ''now'' - in contrast to the githyanki, who are essentially mixture of the three [[Just as planned\|most]] [[RIP AND TEAR\|annoying]] [[Munchkin\|prick]] archetypes - the githzerai weren't always this way. Whilst some lore trappings have remained the same, originally, githzerai were a highly ''Chaotic'' race, to the point that one of their original PC limitations was "you cannot be a Lawful alignment".

	Why? Well, at their core, the githzerai are essentially the "~~good~~ but still morally ambiguous counterpart" to the githyanki. So, when they were first created, their whole schtick was tightly wound up in the concept of them being anarchist survivalists who hid in the chaos of Limbo because it matched their desire to be free and never-restrained. So, what changed? We can sum it up in two words: ''[[Planescape: Torment]]''.		Why? Well, at their core, the githzerai are essentially the "non-evil but still morally ambiguous counterpart" to the githyanki. So, when they were first created, their whole schtick was tightly wound up in the concept of them being anarchist survivalists who hid in the chaos of Limbo because it matched their desire to be free and never-restrained. So, what changed? We can sum it up in two words: ''[[Planescape: Torment]]''.

	See, the reason githzerai are the famous and (semi-)popular PC race that they are is because of the party member Dak'kon the Pariah from that game. And while he was originally-intended to be an aberration, a lawful member of a mostly-anarchic race, he's also the most famous and iconic githzerai character in the history of the franchise. Players who want to play a githzerai want to play one who's like Dak'kon. Frankly, it also gives their race some cool themes and motifs, especially when some of their old shit [[Zaerith Menyar-Ag-Gith\|was just lame copies of the githyanki's shit]]. Seriously, we went from "less edgy githyanki" to "spiritualists who live in the realm of chaos to test their powers of mental and spiritual control to the limit" - that's a huge improvement.		See, the reason githzerai are the famous and (semi-)popular PC race that they are is because of the party member Dak'kon the Pariah from that game. And while he was originally-intended to be an aberration, a lawful member of a mostly-anarchic race, he's also the most famous and iconic githzerai character in the history of the franchise. Players who want to play a githzerai want to play one who's like Dak'kon. Frankly, it also gives their race some cool themes and motifs, especially when some of their old shit [[Zaerith Menyar-Ag-Gith\|was just lame copies of the githyanki's shit]]. Seriously, we went from "less edgy githyanki" to "spiritualists who live in the realm of chaos to test their powers of mental and spiritual control to the limit" - that's a huge improvement.