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1d4chan>Piroko: /* About the game */

2023-04-30T17:46:44Z

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	[[Image:Late_Game_Go.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Your late game will look like this. (btw, we shit you not, this is [https://senseis.xmp.net/?NuclearTesuji actually a ''traditional way for a loser to quit a game of Go''])]]If the two players are of unmatched [[Kyu\|skill levels]], White can grant Black the use of handicap stones; in effect, Black places 2 or more stones on the board as her first move, then White makes his (it's traditional to refer to the two players using differing pronouns) first move. In this case the compensation points are only 0.5.		[[Image:Late_Game_Go.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Your late game will look like this. (btw, we shit you not, this is [https://senseis.xmp.net/?NuclearTesuji actually a ''traditional way for a loser to quit a game of Go''])]]If the two players are of unmatched [[Kyu\|skill levels]], White can grant Black the use of handicap stones; in effect, Black places 2 or more stones on the board as her first move, then White makes his (it's traditional to refer to the two players using differing pronouns) first move. In this case the compensation points are only 0.5.

	As you might have noticed, Go is a game of absolute strategy where luck has no sway on the course of the game. A player of a year's worth of experience will find playing against someone who has played a month after understanding the basics, even with handicap stones on their side, is akin to going to the playground with a lead pipe and beating up the youngest child with it. There is absolutely no thrill in it ([[That Guy\|except for some]]), and you feel bad for poor Timothy.		As you might have noticed, Go is a game of absolute strategy where luck has no sway on the course of the game. A player of a year's worth of experience will find playing against someone who has played a month after understanding the basics, even with handicap stones on their side, is akin to [[Powergamer\|going to the playground with a lead pipe]] and beating up the youngest child with it. There is absolutely no thrill in it ([[That Guy\|except for some]]), and you feel bad for poor Timothy.

	Also, the entire professional history of the game can be accurately summarized as slowly realizing just ''how good'' it is to go first and giving White more and more pity points to compensate; inevitably no amount has proven quite enough.		Also, the entire professional history of the game can be accurately summarized as slowly realizing just ''how good'' it is to go first and giving White more and more pity points to compensate; inevitably no amount has proven quite enough.

97.118.120.19: /* How to Suck Less at Go */

2023-01-03T06:46:43Z

How to Suck Less at Go

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	[[Image:Go_rules.png\|thumb\|right\|Everything you need to know, but were too gwai-lo to ask.]]		[[Image:Go_rules.png\|thumb\|right\|Everything you need to know, but were too gwai-lo to ask.]]
	* If you can only remember one of these tips, remember this one: '''Never give up.''' Go doesn't end until you agree to let it end. When a Go player realizes they're losing against a beginner and can't possibly win, but currently have a point lead, they'll usually do a horrifically dirty trick; they'll propose to end the game then and there. A lot of beginners will accept because they don't understand the game or the point scoring rules enough to realize that they have a win on the board if they just stick it out. Don't fall for it. Remember: when your opponent proposes to end the game, they just passed their turn. Even if your situation is bad, you just got a free move. One free move is huge in Go; it can easily turn a whole game around if you use it right. If your opponent is really stubborn they might pass two or three times in a row. No matter how bad the board is or how bad you are at Go, with enough free moves you can turn almost any situation around. And if your situation actually was so bad that you couldn't have changed it, you still don't lose anything by trying. Losing by one point and losing by thirty points are the same thing in Go. Persevering to the bitter end is also the best way to get better at the game. In short: never surrender in Go unless you're absolutely certain you have zero chance of victory.		* If you can only remember one of these tips, remember this one: '''Never give up.''' Go doesn't end until you agree to let it end. When a Go player realizes they're losing against a beginner and can't possibly win, but currently have a point lead, they'll usually do a horrifically dirty trick; they'll propose to end the game then and there. A lot of beginners will accept because they don't understand the game or the point scoring rules enough to realize that they have a win on the board if they just stick it out. Don't fall for it. Remember: when your opponent proposes to end the game, they just passed their turn. Even if your situation is bad, you just got a free move. One free move is huge in Go; it can easily turn a whole game around if you use it right. If your opponent is really stubborn they might pass two or three times in a row. No matter how bad the board is or how bad you are at Go, with enough free moves you can turn almost any situation around. And if your situation actually was so bad that you couldn't have changed it, you still don't lose anything by trying. Losing by one point and losing by thirty points are the same thing in Go. Persevering to the bitter end is also the best way to get better at the game. In short: never surrender in Go unless you're absolutely certain you have zero chance of victory.
			*If you ever have the option of picking your color, ''always'' pick black before the other player can.

	==External links==		==External links==

1d4chan>Piroko: /* About the game */

2022-05-27T17:00:56Z

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	==About the game==		==About the game==
	[[Image:Go_Swordfight.jpg\|thumb\|left\|300px\|Go is a strategy board game involving two players: ~~Black~~, ~~and~~ the ~~guy who will Lose~~]]		[[Image:Go_Swordfight.jpg\|thumb\|left\|300px\|Go is a strategy board game involving two players: One goes first, the other loses.]]
	Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.		Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.

1d4chan>Ow, My Sanity.: /* About the game */

2022-05-27T15:41:23Z

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	To offset Black's advantage of moving first, White receives compensation points, typically 6.5 or 7.5 depending on ruleset. The half point is to prevent draws.		To offset Black's advantage of moving first, White receives compensation points, typically 6.5 or 7.5 depending on ruleset. The half point is to prevent draws.

	[[Image:Late_Game_Go.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Your late game will look like this. (btw, we shit you not, this is actually a ''traditional ~~thing~~ for ~~the~~ loser to ~~do at the end~~ of ~~the game~~'')]]If the two players are of unmatched [[Kyu\|skill levels]], White can grant Black the use of handicap stones; in effect, Black places 2 or more stones on the board as her first move, then White makes his (it's traditional to refer to the two players using differing pronouns) first move. In this case the compensation points are only 0.5.		[[Image:Late_Game_Go.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Your late game will look like this. (btw, we shit you not, this is [https://senseis.xmp.net/?NuclearTesuji actually a ''traditional way for a loser to quit a game of Go''])]]If the two players are of unmatched [[Kyu\|skill levels]], White can grant Black the use of handicap stones; in effect, Black places 2 or more stones on the board as her first move, then White makes his (it's traditional to refer to the two players using differing pronouns) first move. In this case the compensation points are only 0.5.

	As you might have noticed, Go is a game of absolute strategy where luck has no sway on the course of the game. A player of a year's worth of experience will find playing against someone who has played a month after understanding the basics, even with handicap stones on their side, is akin to going to the playground with a lead pipe and beating up the youngest child with it. There is absolutely no thrill in it ([[That Guy\|except for some]]), and you feel bad for poor Timothy.		As you might have noticed, Go is a game of absolute strategy where luck has no sway on the course of the game. A player of a year's worth of experience will find playing against someone who has played a month after understanding the basics, even with handicap stones on their side, is akin to going to the playground with a lead pipe and beating up the youngest child with it. There is absolutely no thrill in it ([[That Guy\|except for some]]), and you feel bad for poor Timothy.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* About the game */

2022-01-14T00:52:41Z

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	==About the game==		==About the game==
	[[Image:Go_Swordfight.jpg\|thumb\|left\|300px\|Go is a strategy board game involving two players: Black, and ~~Loser~~]]		[[Image:Go_Swordfight.jpg\|thumb\|left\|300px\|Go is a strategy board game involving two players: Black, and the guy who will Lose]]
	Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.		Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* How to Suck Less at Go */

2022-01-14T00:51:45Z

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	* If your opponent is focusing too much on one area of the board, that's good for you. Don't be afraid to play away if you have better options in other parts of the board. Sometimes your opponent was hyper-focused for a good reason and they knew or noticed something you didn't, but sometimes you've realized something they haven't too.		* If your opponent is focusing too much on one area of the board, that's good for you. Don't be afraid to play away if you have better options in other parts of the board. Sometimes your opponent was hyper-focused for a good reason and they knew or noticed something you didn't, but sometimes you've realized something they haven't too.
	* If you ever find yourself without a clue for what move you should play, there's a great trick to find a good move that almost always works. Put yourself in your opponent's shoes and ask yourself what move you would make if you were your opponent right now. Your opponent's best move is usually your best move too.		* If you ever find yourself without a clue for what move you should play, there's a great trick to find a good move that almost always works. Put yourself in your opponent's shoes and ask yourself what move you would make if you were your opponent right now. Your opponent's best move is usually your best move too.
			[[Image:Go_rules.png\|thumb\|right\|Everything you need to know, but were too gwai-lo to ask.]]
	* If you can only remember one of these tips, remember this one: '''Never give up.''' Go doesn't end until you agree to let it end. When a Go player realizes they're losing against a beginner and can't possibly win, but currently have a point lead, they'll usually do a horrifically dirty trick; they'll propose to end the game then and there. A lot of beginners will accept because they don't understand the game or the point scoring rules enough to realize that they have a win on the board if they just stick it out. Don't fall for it. Remember: when your opponent proposes to end the game, they just passed their turn. Even if your situation is bad, you just got a free move. One free move is huge in Go; it can easily turn a whole game around if you use it right. If your opponent is really stubborn they might pass two or three times in a row. No matter how bad the board is or how bad you are at Go, with enough free moves you can turn almost any situation around. And if your situation actually was so bad that you couldn't have changed it, you still don't lose anything by trying. Losing by one point and losing by thirty points are the same thing in Go. Persevering to the bitter end is also the best way to get better at the game. In short: never surrender in Go unless you're absolutely certain you have zero chance of victory.		* If you can only remember one of these tips, remember this one: '''Never give up.''' Go doesn't end until you agree to let it end. When a Go player realizes they're losing against a beginner and can't possibly win, but currently have a point lead, they'll usually do a horrifically dirty trick; they'll propose to end the game then and there. A lot of beginners will accept because they don't understand the game or the point scoring rules enough to realize that they have a win on the board if they just stick it out. Don't fall for it. Remember: when your opponent proposes to end the game, they just passed their turn. Even if your situation is bad, you just got a free move. One free move is huge in Go; it can easily turn a whole game around if you use it right. If your opponent is really stubborn they might pass two or three times in a row. No matter how bad the board is or how bad you are at Go, with enough free moves you can turn almost any situation around. And if your situation actually was so bad that you couldn't have changed it, you still don't lose anything by trying. Losing by one point and losing by thirty points are the same thing in Go. Persevering to the bitter end is also the best way to get better at the game. In short: never surrender in Go unless you're absolutely certain you have zero chance of victory.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* About the game */

2022-01-14T00:51:34Z

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			[[Image:Go_Swordfight.jpg\|thumb\|left\|300px\|Go is a strategy board game involving two players: Black, and Loser]]
	Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.		Go is a strategy board game involving two players, Black and White. The players take turns placing stones of their own color on the intersections of a grid; common sizes for this grid are 19x19, 13x13, and 9x9 intersections.

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	To prevent certain deadlock situations, it is illegal to move such that your opponent's move is undone; otherwise the players could reach a situation in which they endlessly repeat the same two positions. In some rulesets it is illegal to recreate any previous position. A situation in which this rule applies is called ko. A typical game can have multiple of these ko-threats. To circumvent a ko-threat, the player must place a stone somewhere else and after that he may continue the ko-situation on his next turn; or ignore it completely and let his opponent take the ko.		To prevent certain deadlock situations, it is illegal to move such that your opponent's move is undone; otherwise the players could reach a situation in which they endlessly repeat the same two positions. In some rulesets it is illegal to recreate any previous position. A situation in which this rule applies is called ko. A typical game can have multiple of these ko-threats. To circumvent a ko-threat, the player must place a stone somewhere else and after that he may continue the ko-situation on his next turn; or ignore it completely and let his opponent take the ko.

	~~[[Image:Go_rules.png\|thumb\|right\|Everything you need to know, but were too gwai-lo to ask.]]~~
	If a player believes they cannot improve their position, they pass instead of placing a stone. Once both players pass, they score the game by counting the intersections surrounded by their stones, and then either adding the number of their stones still on the board, or subtracting the number of their stones captured by their opponent, depending on the ruleset.		If a player believes they cannot improve their position, they pass instead of placing a stone. Once both players pass, they score the game by counting the intersections surrounded by their stones, and then either adding the number of their stones still on the board, or subtracting the number of their stones captured by their opponent, depending on the ruleset.

1d4chan>Skadooshbag: /* How to Suck Less at Go */

2021-09-14T13:39:02Z

How to Suck Less at Go

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	Following these tips won't let you suddenly start winning games, but they will help make your losses less embarrassing.		Following these tips won't let you suddenly start winning games, but they will help make your losses less embarrassing.
	* Start out the game by making "big" moves. Your first stones should be placed to give you control of lots of territory. The first four moves of almost all high level Go games begin with taking the four corners. ~~Don~~'t ~~literally~~ put your stone on the corner, put it a couple lines out so you can turn that space into points later.		* Start out the game by making "big" moves. Your first stones should be placed to give you control of lots of territory. The first four moves of almost all high level Go games begin with taking the four corners. Though don't put your stone on the actual corner itself, put it a couple lines out so you can turn that space into points later.
	* Don't let your opponent split up your stones. Most of the time when a group of your stones is taken it's because your opponent split them up earlier on.		* Don't let your opponent split up your stones. Most of the time when a group of your stones is taken it's because your opponent split them up earlier on.
	* By extension, if you see an opportunity to split up your opponent's stones, go for it. Divide and conquer is the fundamental tactic of Go.		* By extension, if you see an opportunity to split up your opponent's stones, go for it. Divide and conquer is the fundamental tactic of Go.