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	'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.		'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.

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	[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.		[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.

	Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s because of the ''Twilight Zone'' movie and then a [[Skub\|<s>disgustingly bad</s> delightfully campy]] Stephen Spielberg outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere.		Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s because of the ''Twilight Zone'' movie and then a [[Skub\|<s>disgustingly bad</s> delightfully campy]] Stephen Spielberg-produced Joe Dante outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere.

	Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-[[gnome]]s.		Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-[[gnome]]s.

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	'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.		'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.

	Up to 1983 the most famous ~~gremlin~~ in popular culture ~~was~~ the one Richard Matheson sicced on William Shatner in the ~~1961 anthology~~ ''~~Alone by Night~~'', ~~very soon a~~ ''~~Twilight Zone~~'' ~~episode~~.		Up to 1983 the most famous gremlins in popular culture were the one Richard Matheson sicced on William Shatner in the ''Twilight Zone'' episode "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" and the weird little gremlin Bob Clampett had torment Bugs Bunny in the 1943 ''Merrie Melodies'' cartoon "Falling Hare".

	[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.		[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.

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	[[Frog God Games\|Necromancer]] jumped into the gap, and for ''[[Tome of Horrors]]'' included the Mite again. Although, this has them as goblinoid (perhaps to avoid the 2e classifications) and disassociates the pestie into a subtype. The third Tome volume has a separate entry on gremlins. Obviously none of this is D&D canon.		[[Frog God Games\|Necromancer]] jumped into the gap, and for ''[[Tome of Horrors]]'' included the Mite again. Although, this has them as goblinoid (perhaps to avoid the 2e classifications) and disassociates the pestie into a subtype. The third Tome volume has a separate entry on gremlins. Obviously none of this is D&D canon.

			===Fremlin PCs===
			Fremlins actually got promoted to playable status in the [[Complete Book Series\|Complete Book of Humanoids]], where they were actually pretty mechanically powerful - a 10th level Small-sized wizard with at-will flight and immunity to mundane weapons can do a LOT of damage if you're smart... sadly, they got saddled with fluff that basically turns them into the most ''annoying'' flavor of 80s kid-appeal nonhuman sidekicks if you play it accurately. As you can expect, not a lot of [[Dungeon Master]]s were willing to put up with a player playing [[Masters of the Universe\|Orko]] or [[Thundercats\|Snarf]].

			What? You don't believe us? The Complete Book of Humanoids '''directly''' says that whilst fremlins have some useful skills and abilities, they are usually played for comic relief, and outright calls them "annoying, obnoxious, and easily insulted". Direct quote: they seldom assist in combat and often wind up hindering the efforts of their companions by giving away hiding locations or making other "innocent" blunders. They're also huge cowards who tend to flee at the first sign of trouble, whiners, lazy, inveterate pranksters, and outright worthless in combat because they refuse to use weapons... although that last part isn't mechanically enforced, so you are more than welcome to ignore that piece of garbage.

			::Ability Score Minimum/Maximum: Strength 2/11, Dexterity 8/18, Constitution 4/13, Intelligence 6/18, Wisdom 3/16, Charisma 3/18
			::Ability Score Adjustments: +2 Dexterity, +1 Intelligence, -3 Strength
			::Racial Class/Level Limits: [[Wizard]] 10 ([[Mage]], [[Illusionist]]), [[Thief]] 12
			::Natural Armor Class: 6
			::Special Advantages:
			:::Immune to normal weapons: requires +1 or better enchanted weapons to hit.
			:::Flight with Movement Speed 12 and Maneuverability Class B.
			::Special Disadvantages: Fremlins can only wield weapons that have been specifically sized for their tiny frames, which thusly deal 1/3rd normal damage.
			::Monstrous Traits: Appearance, Size (Small)
			::Superstitions: Fremlins are afraid of almost everything.
			::Weapon Proficiencies: Dagger, Pixie Sword, other weapons scaled for their size.
			::Nonweapon Proficiencies: Begging, danger sense, drinking, eating, fortune telling, gaming, hiding, reading/writring, set snares, spellcraft

	==Pathfinder==		==Pathfinder==

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	In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the [[goblinoid]] family that resemble [[imp]]s. [[Fiend Folio]] didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as [[jermlaine]]-related ([[mite]] aka pestie, then snyad). [[Tom Moldvay]] brought them into the "unadvanced" line through [[X2: Castle Amber]]. Thence they entered the [[Companion Set]] where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose.		In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the [[goblinoid]] family that resemble [[imp]]s. [[Fiend Folio]] didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as [[jermlaine]]-related ([[mite]] aka pestie, then snyad). [[Tom Moldvay]] brought them into the "unadvanced" line through [[X2: Castle Amber]]. Thence they entered the [[Companion Set]] where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose.

	Second Edition was the heyday of this genus. By 1993 the Monstrous Manual had for the Gremlin category five different kinds: the standard gremlin, the '''Fremlin''' (''Fr''iendly gr''emlin''), and the aforementioned '''Galltrit''', '''Mite''', and '''Snyad'''. For whatever reason the [[Jermlaine]] were NOT so annexed; they're listed on their own as "Gremlin, Jermlaine". Also this Manual claimed all the big five have wings and small tails, which had not been true of mites and snyads up to now (especially since these live in tiny underground passageways, like the jermlaine); so the "mite" entry has to go backsies on that. Since [[Lorraine Williams\|a gremlin was running TSR at the time]], arguably she'd know best.		Second Edition was the heyday of this genus. By 1993 the Monstrous Manual had for the Gremlin category five different kinds: the standard gremlin, the '''Fremlin''' (''Fr''iendly gr''emlin''), and the aforementioned '''Galltrit''', '''[[Mite]]''', and '''Snyad'''. For whatever reason the [[Jermlaine]] were NOT so annexed; they're listed on their own as "Gremlin, Jermlaine". Also this Manual claimed all the big five have wings and small tails, which had not been true of mites and snyads up to now (especially since these live in tiny underground passageways, like the jermlaine); so the "mite" entry has to go backsies on that. Since [[Lorraine Williams\|a gremlin was running TSR at the time]], arguably she'd know best.

	[[Ravenloft]] is home to its own divergent member of the species, the wingless [[gremishka]], which is clearly based on the gremlins from the 1984 movie.		[[Ravenloft]] is home to its own divergent member of the species, the wingless [[gremishka]], which is clearly based on the gremlins from the 1984 movie.

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	'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.		'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.

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	==D&D==		==D&D==
			[[File:Gremlin MM 2e.png\|thumb\|200px\|The Standard Gremlin]]
	In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the [[goblinoid]] family that resemble [[imp]]s. [[Fiend Folio]] didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as [[jermlaine]]-related ([[mite]] aka pestie, then snyad). [[Tom Moldvay]] brought them into the "unadvanced" line through [[X2: Castle Amber]]. Thence they entered the [[Companion Set]] where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose.		In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the [[goblinoid]] family that resemble [[imp]]s. [[Fiend Folio]] didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as [[jermlaine]]-related ([[mite]] aka pestie, then snyad). [[Tom Moldvay]] brought them into the "unadvanced" line through [[X2: Castle Amber]]. Thence they entered the [[Companion Set]] where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose.

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	The mamono is an imp-like (obviously) [[Beastfolk\|beastgirl]] with an innate knack for [[magitek]]. This one is more constructive, like a gnome; a master [[artificer]] who builds all manner of perverse and sexual devices.		The mamono is an imp-like (obviously) [[Beastfolk\|beastgirl]] with an innate knack for [[magitek]]. This one is more constructive, like a gnome; a master [[artificer]] who builds all manner of perverse and sexual devices.

	~~==Gallery==~~
	~~<gallery>~~
	~~Gremlin MM 2e.png\|2e ''Monstrous Manual''~~
	~~AMCGremlin.jpg\|Watch out for this little monster.~~
	~~</gallery>~~

	[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]]		[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]]

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	Gremlin MM 2e.png\|2e ''Monstrous Manual''		Gremlin MM 2e.png\|2e ''Monstrous Manual''
	~~Gremlin twilight zone.jpg~~
	AMCGremlin.jpg\|Watch out for this little monster.		AMCGremlin.jpg\|Watch out for this little monster.
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	[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]]		[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]]

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	[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.		[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French.

	Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s~~, that cultural wasteland,~~ because of the ''Twilight Zone'' movie and then a [[Skub\|<s>disgustingly bad</s> delightfully campy]] Stephen Spielberg outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere.		Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s because of the ''Twilight Zone'' movie and then a [[Skub\|<s>disgustingly bad</s> delightfully campy]] Stephen Spielberg outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere.

	Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-[[gnome]]s.		Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-[[gnome]]s.