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Pachinko Man: /* Setting */

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Setting

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	The world of Greyhawk is called Oerth, which has four continents: Oerik (upper hemisphere), Telchuria (also called Hyperboria in old sources, north pole area), Hepmonaland (large tropical island continent SE of Oerik), and some southern continent nobody ever gave a shit about.		The world of Greyhawk is called Oerth, which has four continents: Oerik (upper hemisphere), Telchuria (also called Hyperboria in old sources, north pole area), Hepmonaland (large tropical island continent SE of Oerik), and some southern continent nobody ever gave a shit about.

	Gary confirmed in various places that it's basically an alternate Earth, and there are others with different vowels at the beginning of their names (Aerth, Uerth, and Yarth); each of the alternate worlds has varying levels of magic, but Oerth seems to have the most.		Gary confirmed in various places that it's basically an alternate Earth, and there are others with different vowels at the beginning of their names (Aerth, Uerth, and [[Banestorm\|Yarth]]); each of the alternate worlds has varying levels of magic, but Oerth seems to have the most.

	It is also, unlike [[Forgotten Realms\| Toril]] or [[Dragonlance\| Krynn]], actually a geocentric solar system, with a small sun-equivalent that orbits the planet rather than the other way round.		It is also, unlike [[Forgotten Realms\| Toril]] or [[Dragonlance\| Krynn]], actually a geocentric solar system, with a small sun-equivalent that orbits the planet rather than the other way round.
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	5th edition hasn't had much to say on Greyhawk. All of the printed material supports Forgotten Realms so far, but the word is that they intend to fully support the other campaign settings over time. For the most part, all this meant was a token side-note about how to adapt each of the various adventures and setting-stuffs over to other settings...and then 2019 finally gave us ''[[Ghosts of Saltmarsh]]'', a collection of various Greyhawk adventures of a more nautical bent. And several characters from Greyhawk including [[Mordenkainen]] and [[Tasha]] have made appearances.		5th edition hasn't had much to say on Greyhawk. All of the printed material supports Forgotten Realms so far, but the word is that they intend to fully support the other campaign settings over time. For the most part, all this meant was a token side-note about how to adapt each of the various adventures and setting-stuffs over to other settings...and then 2019 finally gave us ''[[Ghosts of Saltmarsh]]'', a collection of various Greyhawk adventures of a more nautical bent. And several characters from Greyhawk including [[Mordenkainen]] and [[Tasha]] have made appearances.

	==Why ~~Certain People Love~~ Greyhawk==		==Why Greyhawk Rocks==

	When you're a kid, some of those first things you experience will always be magical. The first porn you see/watch. That first booze you drink. The first hit of a joint. First time you have actual sex. Sure, you may have other great versions of that experience, but the more you do them, the fewer of them stand out as exceptional. But that first time? It's special, it's a milestone in your life.		When you're a kid, some of those first things you experience will always be magical. The first porn you see/watch. That first booze you drink. The first hit of a joint. First time you have actual sex. Sure, you may have other great versions of that experience, but the more you do them, the fewer of them stand out as exceptional. But that first time? It's special, it's a milestone in your life.

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1d4chan>The Hat That Was: /* External Links */ updated map link

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External Links: updated map link

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	==External Links==		==External Links==
	*[https://greyhawkonline.com/greyhawkwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Canonfire's Wiki]		*[https://greyhawkonline.com/greyhawkwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Canonfire's Wiki]
	*[https://www.~~annabmeyer~~.com/~~greyhawk-maps/online-map-1~~/ Very detailed online map of Flanaess]		*[https://www.easyzoom.com/image/356079 Very detailed online map of Flanaess]

	{{D&D-Greyhawk-Deities}}		{{D&D-Greyhawk-Deities}}
	{{D&D-Settings}}		{{D&D-Settings}}

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	==Races==		==Races==

	==Humans==		===Humans===
	Flanaess has six races of humanity:		Flanaess has six races of humanity:
	*The green-eyed Baklunish, who used to have a big empire before the Invoked Destruction ([[Squats\|which no one alive remembers the form of]]) but have retained the rest of their culture. Basically Arabic type culture, including having the same naming conventions and similar social mores.		*The green-eyed Baklunish, who used to have a big empire before the Invoked Destruction ([[Squats\|which no one alive remembers the form of]]) but have retained the rest of their culture. Basically Arabic type culture, including having the same naming conventions and similar social mores.

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Everything Else

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	===Everything Else===		===Everything Else===
	Really, there's just an encyclopedia of other races, but they are all pretty ~~archtypical~~ D&D stuff. You have different varieties of elves, dorfs, halflings, gnomes, etc. If you've played enough fantasy RPG in the past 20 years, none of this will be much of a shock.		Really, there's just an encyclopedia of other races, but they are all pretty archetypal D&D stuff. You have different varieties of elves, dorfs, halflings, gnomes, etc. If you've played enough fantasy RPG in the past 20 years, none of this will be much of a shock.

	One interesting note is that the D&D terms of various kinds of elves are different in other settings. Both Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance have different names for their elven subgroups, yet their culture is pretty much completely the same (with minor changes according to specific history in those settings). Same with dwarves and halflings. But don't worry, dark elves are still evil bastards who worship a demonic bitch-goddess no matter what setting they are in, apparently. The [[Complete Book Series]] even specifically spells out that the different ethnicities of Greyhawk and [[Forgotten Realms]] elves are just setting-specific and slightly color-unique tweaks on the "generic" elven subraces of High, Gray, Wood, Wild and Dark.		One interesting note is that the D&D terms of various kinds of elves are different in other settings. Both Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance have different names for their elven subgroups, yet their culture is pretty much completely the same (with minor changes according to specific history in those settings). Same with dwarves and halflings. But don't worry, dark elves are still evil bastards who worship a demonic bitch-goddess no matter what setting they are in, apparently. The [[Complete Book Series]] even specifically spells out that the different ethnicities of Greyhawk and [[Forgotten Realms]] elves are just setting-specific and slightly color-unique tweaks on the "generic" elven subraces of High, Gray, Wood, Wild and Dark.

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Stumbled across the Greyhawk Rebooted 576CY project and felt this page should mention it, but it needs expanding by somebody who knows it better.

2022-02-07T04:15:41Z

Stumbled across the Greyhawk Rebooted 576CY project and felt this page should mention it, but it needs expanding by somebody who knows it better.

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1d4chan>Zimriel: /* Publication History Stuff */

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Publication History Stuff

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	For 1st to 2nd the explanation was a great plague with mysterious origins that was altering the fabric of reality and magic itself... but this had nothing to do with the [[Greyhawk Wars]] metaplot, which came later in second-edition, done to give the finger to Gary on his way out - and the [[Forgotten Realms]] even had their own entirely separate explanation for the 1e-to-2e shift, in the form of the [[Time of Troubles]]. Greyhawk got its next major update, accordingly, within tail-end 2e after [[Lorraine]] rode off on her broomstick and such people as respected the original trickled back in. All that [[Vecna]] [[Die Vecna Die!\|shit]] happened after Greyhawk was already back on its feet.		For 1st to 2nd the explanation was a great plague with mysterious origins that was altering the fabric of reality and magic itself... but this had nothing to do with the [[Greyhawk Wars]] metaplot, which came later in second-edition, done to give the finger to Gary on his way out - and the [[Forgotten Realms]] even had their own entirely separate explanation for the 1e-to-2e shift, in the form of the [[Time of Troubles]]. Greyhawk got its next major update, accordingly, within tail-end 2e after [[Lorraine]] rode off on her broomstick and such people as respected the original trickled back in. All that [[Vecna]] [[Die Vecna Die!\|shit]] happened after Greyhawk was already back on its feet.

	==~~Publication History Stuff~~==		==The Fall and Rise of Greyhawk==
	TSR - meaning [[Lorraine Williams\|You Know Who]] - started off particularly badly by having [[Skip Williams]] publish WG9 and [[WG10: Child's Play\|WG10]], the Dumb and Dumber in the module series, sinking the WG line in gamers' estimation. And then there were those [[Rose Estes]] novels, which ran off fans of the ''books''.		Post-Gygax TSR - meaning [[Lorraine Williams\|You Know Who]] - came close to killing this golden goose.

	~~This~~ incarnation of TSR then kicked over the gaming table by siccing ~~the total foreigner (and weirdo) [[Carl~~ Sargent]] on ''[[From The Ashes]]'', which turned Greyhawk into GRIMDARK. Although his version has its supporters, it divided the community and, of course, it was nothing like what the older gamers had imagined. It further got somewhat outshined by Forgotten Realms (due to over-publication of novels and other material), as well as the secondary lines/settings. But all the old neckbeards loved the homebrew feel of the ''original'' Greyhawk.		She/they started modestly enough, with (for instance) the Greyhawk hardcover, a few middling WG modules - and the City of Greyhawk box, using the Brit [[Carl Lynwood Sargent]] to design the last. Then TSR had [[Skip Williams]] publish WG9 and [[WG10: Child's Play\|WG10]]. These were the Dumb and Dumber in the module series, sinking the WG line in gamers' estimation. Meanwhile 1987 saw those [[Rose Estes]] novels, which ran off fans of the ''books''.

			In the 1990s this incarnation of TSR then kicked over the gaming table by siccing Sargent on ''[[From The Ashes]]'', which turned Greyhawk into GRIMDARK. Although his version has its supporters, it divided the community and, of course, it was nothing like what the older gamers had imagined. It further got somewhat outshined by Forgotten Realms (due to over-publication of novels and other material), as well as the secondary lines/settings. But all the old neckbeards loved the homebrew feel of the ''original'' Greyhawk.

	For the "Living Greyhawk" campaign and Gazetteer, WOTC decided to reverse TSR's horrific disrespect of Gary Gygax - and of Greyhawk's old flavor. They went further in Third edition, as to put Greyhawk front and center as the base setting of the game. This was how they got some neckbeards to stop frothing at the mouth about "muh THAC0!" and actually settle down enough to give it a chance. This culminated in the ''[[Expedition to Castle Greyhawk]]'' mega-adventure which was a pretty decent homage to the original dungeon crawl. 3e also sideways-canonized [[Spelljammer]] (not much, just enough to say the ships existed) and [[Planescape]], which was more or less fully supported, only it wasn't a separate thing: it was fully incorporated into baseline Greyhawk as-is, since FR got their own cosmology this edition.		For the "Living Greyhawk" campaign and Gazetteer, WOTC decided to reverse TSR's horrific disrespect of Gary Gygax - and of Greyhawk's old flavor. They went further in Third edition, as to put Greyhawk front and center as the base setting of the game. This was how they got some neckbeards to stop frothing at the mouth about "muh THAC0!" and actually settle down enough to give it a chance. This culminated in the ''[[Expedition to Castle Greyhawk]]'' mega-adventure which was a pretty decent homage to the original dungeon crawl. 3e also sideways-canonized [[Spelljammer]] (not much, just enough to say the ships existed) and [[Planescape]], which was more or less fully supported, only it wasn't a separate thing: it was fully incorporated into baseline Greyhawk as-is, since FR got their own cosmology this edition.

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* Within D&D */

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Within D&D

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	Until [[4e\|4th edition]] every edition change's fluff explanation was the result of some event in the Greyhawk setting, or at least tangent to it. Although these tended not to track with the greatest changes in Greyhawk itself.		Until [[4e\|4th edition]] every edition change's fluff explanation was the result of some event in the Greyhawk setting, or at least tangent to it. Although these tended not to track with the greatest changes in Greyhawk itself.

	For 1st to 2nd the explanation was a great plague with mysterious origins that was altering the fabric of reality and magic itself... but this had nothing to do with the [[Greyhawk Wars]] metaplot, which ~~was tail-end first~~-edition, done to give the finger to Gary on his way out - and the [[Forgotten Realms]] even had their own entirely separate explanation for the 1e-to-2e shift, in the form of the [[Time of Troubles]]. Greyhawk got its next major update, accordingly, within tail-end 2e after [[Lorraine]] rode off on her broomstick and such people as respected the original trickled back in. All that [[Vecna]] [[Die Vecna Die!\|shit]] happened after Greyhawk was already back on its feet.		For 1st to 2nd the explanation was a great plague with mysterious origins that was altering the fabric of reality and magic itself... but this had nothing to do with the [[Greyhawk Wars]] metaplot, which came later in second-edition, done to give the finger to Gary on his way out - and the [[Forgotten Realms]] even had their own entirely separate explanation for the 1e-to-2e shift, in the form of the [[Time of Troubles]]. Greyhawk got its next major update, accordingly, within tail-end 2e after [[Lorraine]] rode off on her broomstick and such people as respected the original trickled back in. All that [[Vecna]] [[Die Vecna Die!\|shit]] happened after Greyhawk was already back on its feet.

	==Publication History Stuff==		==Publication History Stuff==
	TSR - meaning [[Lorraine Williams\|You Know Who]] - kicked over the gaming table by siccing the total foreigner (and weirdo) [[Carl Sargent]] on ''[[From The Ashes]]'', which turned Greyhawk into GRIMDARK. Although his version has its supporters, it divided the community and, of course, it was nothing like what the older gamers had imagined. It further got somewhat outshined by Forgotten Realms (due to over-publication of novels and other material), as well as the secondary lines/settings. But all the old neckbeards loved the homebrew feel of the ''original'' Greyhawk.		TSR - meaning [[Lorraine Williams\|You Know Who]] - started off particularly badly by having [[Skip Williams]] publish WG9 and [[WG10: Child's Play\|WG10]], the Dumb and Dumber in the module series, sinking the WG line in gamers' estimation. And then there were those [[Rose Estes]] novels, which ran off fans of the ''books''.

			This incarnation of TSR then kicked over the gaming table by siccing the total foreigner (and weirdo) [[Carl Sargent]] on ''[[From The Ashes]]'', which turned Greyhawk into GRIMDARK. Although his version has its supporters, it divided the community and, of course, it was nothing like what the older gamers had imagined. It further got somewhat outshined by Forgotten Realms (due to over-publication of novels and other material), as well as the secondary lines/settings. But all the old neckbeards loved the homebrew feel of the ''original'' Greyhawk.

	For the "Living Greyhawk" campaign and Gazetteer, WOTC decided to reverse TSR's horrific disrespect of Gary Gygax - and of Greyhawk's old flavor. They went further in Third edition, as to put Greyhawk front and center as the base setting of the game. This was how they got some neckbeards to stop frothing at the mouth about "muh THAC0!" and actually settle down enough to give it a chance. This culminated in the ''[[Expedition to Castle Greyhawk]]'' mega-adventure which was a pretty decent homage to the original dungeon crawl. 3e also sideways-canonized [[Spelljammer]] (not much, just enough to say the ships existed) and [[Planescape]], which was more or less fully supported, only it wasn't a separate thing: it was fully incorporated into baseline Greyhawk as-is, since FR got their own cosmology this edition.		For the "Living Greyhawk" campaign and Gazetteer, WOTC decided to reverse TSR's horrific disrespect of Gary Gygax - and of Greyhawk's old flavor. They went further in Third edition, as to put Greyhawk front and center as the base setting of the game. This was how they got some neckbeards to stop frothing at the mouth about "muh THAC0!" and actually settle down enough to give it a chance. This culminated in the ''[[Expedition to Castle Greyhawk]]'' mega-adventure which was a pretty decent homage to the original dungeon crawl. 3e also sideways-canonized [[Spelljammer]] (not much, just enough to say the ships existed) and [[Planescape]], which was more or less fully supported, only it wasn't a separate thing: it was fully incorporated into baseline Greyhawk as-is, since FR got their own cosmology this edition.

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	4th edition apparently decided to not fuck with Greyhawk but ignored it completely, in favor of Forgotten Realms (need to sell more Drizzt novels, after all), Eberron (which as a "static" campaign needed little publication support), and oddly enough [[Dark Sun]] (which was cool, just an unusual choice all things considered).		4th edition apparently decided to not fuck with Greyhawk but ignored it completely, in favor of Forgotten Realms (need to sell more Drizzt novels, after all), Eberron (which as a "static" campaign needed little publication support), and oddly enough [[Dark Sun]] (which was cool, just an unusual choice all things considered).

	5th edition hasn't had much to say on Greyhawk. All of the printed material supports Forgotten Realms so far, but the word is that they intend to fully support the other campaign settings over time. For the most part, all this meant was a token side-note about how to adapt each of the various adventures and setting-stuffs over to other settings...and then 2019 finally gave us ''[[Ghosts of Saltmarsh]]'', a collection of various Greyhawk adventures of a more nautical bent.		5th edition hasn't had much to say on Greyhawk. All of the printed material supports Forgotten Realms so far, but the word is that they intend to fully support the other campaign settings over time. For the most part, all this meant was a token side-note about how to adapt each of the various adventures and setting-stuffs over to other settings...and then 2019 finally gave us ''[[Ghosts of Saltmarsh]]'', a collection of various Greyhawk adventures of a more nautical bent. And several characters from Greyhawk including [[Mordenkainen]] and [[Tasha]] have made appearances.

	==Why Certain People Love Greyhawk==		==Why Certain People Love Greyhawk==