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	===[[Wood Elves]]===		===[[Wood Elves]]===
	Unsurprisingly, the faction that is about living in harmony with nature and trying to be eco-friendly, and who have a particular fondness for stealth and accuracy is not in favor of firearms.		Unsurprisingly, the faction that is about living in harmony with nature and trying to be eco-friendly, and who have a particular fondness for stealth and accuracy is not in favor of firearms.

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	===[[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)\|The Empire of Man]]===		===[[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)\|The Empire of Man]]===

	As mentioned above, the Empire of Man is known for it's Steel, Faith and Gunpowder, and given the faction is on the verge of the industrial revolution post their current Renaissance aesthetic, it is likely correct. Most blackpowder innovations, including the innovative artillery pieces like the [[~~Hellstorm~~ Rocket Battery]], [[Helblaster Volley Cannon]] and come from the [[Master Engineer]]s of [[Nuln]], who have improved their craft substantially, even compared to the masterpieces of the Dawi. Indeed, it is the [[Imperial Gunnery School]] which takes your average upstart soldier and trains them into one of many elite units including [[Handgunner]]s, a member of an [[Iron Company]], honored amongst [[Nuln Ironside]]s, or-if your parents are rich and want you to serve in the military without risking serious injury-an [[Empire Pistolier]].		As mentioned above, the Empire of Man is known for it's Steel, Faith and Gunpowder, and given the faction is on the verge of the industrial revolution post their current Renaissance aesthetic, it is likely correct. Most blackpowder innovations, including the innovative artillery pieces like the [[Helstorm Rocket Battery]], [[Helblaster Volley Cannon]] and come from the [[Master Engineer]]s of [[Nuln]], who have improved their craft substantially, even compared to the masterpieces of the Dawi. Indeed, it is the [[Imperial Gunnery School]] which takes your average upstart soldier and trains them into one of many elite units including [[Handgunner]]s, a member of an [[Iron Company]], honored amongst [[Nuln Ironside]]s, or-if your parents are rich and want you to serve in the military without risking serious injury-an [[Empire Pistolier]].

	Pretty much every army has a Empire Great Cannon or two, bombards are far from uncommon, Mortars litter the battlefield, and firearms have become so common that even [[Free Company Militia]] and the self-appointed members of the [[Witch Hunter]]s can afford them. If this is not enough [[dakka]] for you, a [[War Wagon]] or, if circumstances are dire, a [[Steam Tank]] may be issued.		Pretty much every army has a Empire Great Cannon or two, bombards are far from uncommon, Mortars litter the battlefield, and firearms have become so common that even [[Free Company Militia]] and the self-appointed members of the [[Witch Hunter]]s can afford them. If this is not enough [[dakka]] for you, a [[War Wagon]] or, if circumstances are dire, a [[Steam Tank]] may be issued.

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Dark Elves

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	===[[Dark Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)\|Dark Elves]]===		===[[Dark Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)\|Dark Elves]]===
	Dark Elves, although more wiling to experiment with [[chaos\|things]] [[slaanesh\|they]] [[dhar\|probably]] [[daemons\|shouldn't]], they still retain their bows, albeit due to [[Malekith]]'s history with the dawi and his fondness for their crossbows, the Dark Elves tend to focus on use of [[repeaters]] and other similar weapons that utilize arrows. They tend to have more power than regular bows, and are more accurate than firearms, so work as an in-between.		Dark Elves, although more wiling to experiment with [[chaos\|things]] [[slaanesh\|they]] [[dhar\|probably]] [[daemons\|shouldn't]], they still retain their bows, albeit due to [[Malekith]]'s history with the dawi and his fondness for their crossbows, the Dark Elves tend to focus on use of [[repeaters]] and other similar weapons that utilize arrows. They tend to have more power than regular bows, and are more accurate than firearms, so work as an in-between. As far as they see it, gunpowder weapons were invented by inferior races and are as such inferior by proxy. A prejudice that normally only gets dispelled when they suddenly find a 20 gram sphere of lead lodged in their shoulder.

	Maybe some Black Ark Corsairs might experiment with them if they steal some. Alternatively, a particularly paranoid Dreadlord or political figure may have a small pistol or some other weapon in case of some entrepreneuring or overly ambitious individuals put him in a tight spot. However, he will make good care to hide this from his comrades. But these are still outliers.		Maybe some Black Ark Corsairs might experiment with them if they steal some. Alternatively, a particularly paranoid Dreadlord or political figure may have a small pistol or some other weapon in case of some entrepreneuring or overly ambitious individuals put him in a tight spot. However, he will make good care to hide this from his comrades. But these are still outliers.

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Southern Realms

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	Ogres don't make gunpowder themselves as much as they loot it from their latest "dinner" or from the remains of the Sky Titan's settlements, which is where they get their Ironblasters from. Maneaters have flintlocks from the cultures they have traveled to such as the Southern Realms, Sartosa, the Empire, etc., whereas Leadbelchers get their cannons from trade with the Chaos Dwarfs, which are used as the men from the Empire may use rifles, and are used in pretty much every Ogre tribe, though to call them black powder weapons may be a bit of a misnomer, as they will use handfuls of rusty nails, scrap iron, assorted bladed metals, etc. and only rarely use a cannonball or suitable rock to fire. Needless to say, most Iron Blasters are missing some teeth, an eye or two, multiple fingers, and are scarred all over their body from their guns exploding in their arms. An Iron Blaster view these as honors, and an ironblaster with Eyebrows, all their fingers, and some other manner of scorching or disfigurement would be viewed as a novice or with extreme skepticism as any good and proper Ogre would throw all caution to the wind in order to blast one of these weapons into a foe.		Ogres don't make gunpowder themselves as much as they loot it from their latest "dinner" or from the remains of the Sky Titan's settlements, which is where they get their Ironblasters from. Maneaters have flintlocks from the cultures they have traveled to such as the Southern Realms, Sartosa, the Empire, etc., whereas Leadbelchers get their cannons from trade with the Chaos Dwarfs, which are used as the men from the Empire may use rifles, and are used in pretty much every Ogre tribe, though to call them black powder weapons may be a bit of a misnomer, as they will use handfuls of rusty nails, scrap iron, assorted bladed metals, etc. and only rarely use a cannonball or suitable rock to fire. Needless to say, most Iron Blasters are missing some teeth, an eye or two, multiple fingers, and are scarred all over their body from their guns exploding in their arms. An Iron Blaster view these as honors, and an ironblaster with Eyebrows, all their fingers, and some other manner of scorching or disfigurement would be viewed as a novice or with extreme skepticism as any good and proper Ogre would throw all caution to the wind in order to blast one of these weapons into a foe.
	===[[Dogs of War\|Southern Realms]]===		===[[Dogs of War\|Southern Realms]]===
	The [[Tilea\|Tileans]] and [[Estalia\|Estalians]] are some of the first races to get gunpowder in the Old World due to trade with Cathay along the Silk Road. (Because GW rip off a lot of their history from our own and Italy was the first country since the fall of the Roman Empire in the West to visit China due to the Silk Road opening from Pax Mongolica.) However, because Tilea is a plutocratic state, pikemen are still used primarily as many a paymaster will try to remain skimpy.		The [[Tilea\|Tileans]] and [[Estalia\|Estalians]] are some of the first races to get gunpowder in the Old World due to trade with Cathay along the Silk Road. (Because GW rip off a lot of their history from our own and Italy was the first country since the fall of the Roman Empire in the West to visit China due to the Silk Road opening from Pax Mongolica.) However, because Tilea is a plutocratic state, pikemen are still used primarily as many a paymaster will try to remain skimpy.

	Estalia is more open with their firearms, with Estalian Bandolleros Gringos being famous units of Arquebuses, and their galleons holding many more cannonades than their peers, as they seek to colonize the world and set up a ~~marchantile~~ empire in their own right. Unfortunately, the places they seek to colonize are full of Lizardmen, Arabyans, and Tileans who do not view these attempts well.		Estalia is more open with their firearms, with Estalian Bandolleros Gringos being famous units of Arquebuses, and their galleons holding many more cannonades than their peers, as they seek to colonize the world and set up a merchantile empire in their own right. Unfortunately, the places they seek to colonize are full of Lizardmen, Arabyans, and Tileans who do not view these attempts well.

	Of the Dogs of War, cannons are used rarely due to constantly needing to be on the move. These are still easier than riflers however, they come with some risks.		Of the Dogs of War, cannons are used rarely due to constantly needing to be on the move. These are still easier than riflers however, they come with some risks.

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History

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	From there, either the Dwarfs or their [[Chaos Dwarfs\|cousins]] were the next to invent them, with dwarfs inventing them in -420 IC during the Times of Woe where they were of particular use against the Greenskins, and slowly, despite their trepidation, grew to encompass them in the dwarven traditions, to the point where Thunderers are the core of any Dawi stronghold, along with cannons and other marvels of modern science.		From there, either the Dwarfs or their [[Chaos Dwarfs\|cousins]] were the next to invent them, with dwarfs inventing them in -420 IC during the Times of Woe where they were of particular use against the Greenskins, and slowly, despite their trepidation, grew to encompass them in the dwarven traditions, to the point where Thunderers are the core of any Dawi stronghold, along with cannons and other marvels of modern science.

	Modern firearms in the Old World are descended from there, either being ~~reveres~~-engineered from guns traded with the Dawi or gifts due to the close bonds between the Empire and the Dawi, though they are seen as primitive mockeries of the superior Dwarf engineering, even the advancements of made in the University of Nuln, the foremost university in the Empire and one of the best places for development of technology in all the known world.		Modern firearms in the Old World are descended from there, either being reverse-engineered from guns traded with the Dawi or gifts due to the close bonds between the Empire and the Dawi, though they are seen as primitive mockeries of the superior Dwarf engineering, even the advancements of made in the University of Nuln, the foremost university in the Empire and one of the best places for development of technology in all the known world.

	==By Faction==		==By Faction==

1d4chan>Le0901: /* The Empire of Man */

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The Empire of Man

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	As mentioned above, the Empire of Man is known for it's Steel, Faith and Gunpowder, and given the faction is on the verge of the industrial revolution post their current Renaissance aesthetic, it is likely correct. Most blackpowder innovations, including the innovative artillery pieces like the [[Hellstorm Rocket Battery]], [[Helblaster Volley Cannon]] and come from the [[Master Engineer]]s of [[Nuln]], who have improved their craft substantially, even compared to the masterpieces of the Dawi. Indeed, it is the [[Imperial Gunnery School]] which takes your average upstart soldier and trains them into one of many elite units including [[Handgunner]]s, a member of an [[Iron Company]], honored amongst [[Nuln Ironside]]s, or-if your parents are rich and want you to serve in the military without risking serious injury-an [[Empire Pistolier]].		As mentioned above, the Empire of Man is known for it's Steel, Faith and Gunpowder, and given the faction is on the verge of the industrial revolution post their current Renaissance aesthetic, it is likely correct. Most blackpowder innovations, including the innovative artillery pieces like the [[Hellstorm Rocket Battery]], [[Helblaster Volley Cannon]] and come from the [[Master Engineer]]s of [[Nuln]], who have improved their craft substantially, even compared to the masterpieces of the Dawi. Indeed, it is the [[Imperial Gunnery School]] which takes your average upstart soldier and trains them into one of many elite units including [[Handgunner]]s, a member of an [[Iron Company]], honored amongst [[Nuln Ironside]]s, or-if your parents are rich and want you to serve in the military without risking serious injury-an [[Empire Pistolier]].

	Pretty much every army has a Empire Great Cannon or two, bombards are far from uncommon, Mortars litter the battlefield, and firearms have become so common that even [[Free Company Militia]] and the self-appointed members of the [[Witch Hunter]]s can afford them. If this is not enough [[dakka]] for you, a [[War Wagon]] or, if circumstances are dire, a [[Steam Tank]] may be issued.		Pretty much every army has a Empire Great Cannon or two, bombards are far from uncommon, Mortars litter the battlefield, and firearms have become so common that even [[Free Company Militia]] and the self-appointed members of the [[Witch Hunter]]s can afford them. If this is not enough [[dakka]] for you, a [[War Wagon]] or, if circumstances are dire, a [[Steam Tank]] may be issued.

	As a great general once said, "there isn't a problem that can't be solved with more cannons."		As a great general once said, "there isn't a problem that can't be solved with more cannons."

1d4chan>Le0901: /* By Faction */

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By Faction

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	Unsurprisingly the druid faction does not have fire arms nor do they fight people with firearms regularly.		Unsurprisingly the druid faction does not have fire arms nor do they fight people with firearms regularly.

			===[[Amazon#Warhammer\|Amazons]]===
			Ditto as above, except Amazons are known for traveling all throughout the Warhammer Fantasy world in order to raid them (likely to look for for some..."[[RAPE\|genetic diversity]]" given fluctuative parthenogenesis doesn't exactly result in stable asexual reproduction.)

			Given the Amazons are a rather isolationist people who prefer not to interact with others, their likely only contact with firearms have been through Empire merchants who have sought them out, or the occasional male from the Old World looking for the paradise of women found in the continent, only to never be seen again.
	===[[Araby]]===		===[[Araby]]===
	Arabyan troops are known to use gunpowder for their Jezzails-a long-barreled arquebus designed to be used on the backs of [[Camel Riders\|Camels]] and [[War Elephants]]. Araby is based largely on Arabian Nights, which was written in the 13th century by which guns had already been introduced, and although more associated with the Turks due to advancement, an army loosely based on a mixture of various Islamic sources does not seem like a stretch relatively.		Arabyan troops are known to use gunpowder for their Jezzails-a long-barreled arquebus designed to be used on the backs of [[Camel Riders\|Camels]] and [[War Elephants]]. Araby is based largely on Arabian Nights, which was written in the 13th century by which guns had already been introduced, and although more associated with the Turks due to advancement, an army loosely based on a mixture of various Islamic sources does not seem like a stretch relatively.
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	===[[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)\|The Empire of Man]]===		===[[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)\|The Empire of Man]]===

			As mentioned above, the Empire of Man is known for it's Steel, Faith and Gunpowder, and given the faction is on the verge of the industrial revolution post their current Renaissance aesthetic, it is likely correct. Most blackpowder innovations, including the innovative artillery pieces like the [[Hellstorm Rocket Battery]], [[Helblaster Volley Cannon]] and come from the [[Master Engineer]]s of [[Nuln]], who have improved their craft substantially, even compared to the masterpieces of the Dawi. Indeed, it is the [[Imperial Gunnery School]] which takes your average upstart soldier and trains them into one of many elite units including [[Handgunner]]s, a member of an [[Iron Company]], honored amongst [[Nuln Ironside]]s, or-if your parents are rich and want you to serve in the military without risking serious injury-an [[Empire Pistolier]].

			Pretty much every army has a Empire Great Cannon or two, bombards are far from uncommon, Mortars litter the battlefield, and firearms have become so common that even [[Free Company Militia]] and the self-appointed members of the [[Witch Hunter]]s can afford them. If this is not enough [[dakka]] for you, a [[War Wagon]] or, if circumstances are dire, a [[Steam Tank]] may be issued.

			As a great general once said, "there isn't a problem that can't be solved with more cannons."

			The Empire even has non-blackpowder based weaponry in the form of the [[Luminary of Hysh]], but that's not for this page.

	===[[Cathay \| Grand Cathay]]===		===[[Cathay \| Grand Cathay]]===

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Vampire Coast

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	Raising the dead into zombies, Harkon set out to establish his zombie empire on the hot and humid coasts of Lustria, as the dead fear not disease, nor the exhaustion of heat and dehydration. Unlike other vampires, the coast could really only make use of washed up sailors, and so little-to-no [[Skeleton Warrior#Warhammer Fantasy Battles\|skeleton \]]s could be found in their ranks, but what ship wrecks and dead sailors have in abundance tend to be cannons, blackpowder and flintlocks.		Raising the dead into zombies, Harkon set out to establish his zombie empire on the hot and humid coasts of Lustria, as the dead fear not disease, nor the exhaustion of heat and dehydration. Unlike other vampires, the coast could really only make use of washed up sailors, and so little-to-no [[Skeleton Warrior#Warhammer Fantasy Battles\|skeleton]]s could be found in their ranks, but what ship wrecks and dead sailors have in abundance tend to be cannons, blackpowder and flintlocks.

	That's why out of all the factions, the one with arguably the most reliance on their black powder is the Vampire Coast, as without it, they'd be stuck fighting [[lizardmen\|angry lizards]], [[Clan_Pestilens\|diseased rats]], or the myriad other horrors found in the primeval continent with a bunch of rotting corpses with nothing but numbers, which matters little when your enemies have [[carnosaurs]].		That's why out of all the factions, the one with arguably the most reliance on their black powder is the Vampire Coast, as without it, they'd be stuck fighting [[lizardmen\|angry lizards]], [[Clan_Pestilens\|diseased rats]], or the myriad other horrors found in the primeval continent with a bunch of rotting corpses with nothing but numbers, which matters little when your enemies have [[carnosaurs]].