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			'''Hades''' can refer to either a [[Hades (God)\|god]] or a [[plane]] in the [[multiverse]]. This article is about the plane.
	=Dungeons & Dragons=		=Dungeons & Dragons=
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	=Pathfinder=		=Pathfinder=
	In the [[Pathfinder]] setting, Hades ''(along with [[Gehenna]])'' is an alternate name for '''~~<u>~~Abaddon~~</u>~~''' ~~and is~~ the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] plane of the [[Great Beyond]] cosmology. It is largely the same as its D&D incarnation; a bleak and blasted landscape populated by Night Hags, [[Daemon (Pathfinder)\|Daemons]], [[Div\|Divs]] and evil deities.		In the [[Pathfinder]] setting, Hades ''(along with [[Gehenna]])'' is an alternate name for '''Abaddon''', the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] plane of the [[Great Beyond]] cosmology. It is largely the same as its D&D incarnation; a bleak and blasted landscape populated by Night Hags, [[Daemon (Pathfinder)\|Daemons]], [[Div\|Divs]] and evil deities.

	It encompasses the concept of oblivion of the mortal soul, even the petitioners rarely persist for longer than a few hours after their arrival; inevitably becoming swept up to be consumed by foul entities, or enslaved and sold to be utilised in wicked magic or transformed into other hidious guises.		It encompasses the concept of oblivion of the mortal soul, even the petitioners rarely persist for longer than a few hours after their arrival; inevitably becoming swept up to be consumed by foul entities, or enslaved and sold to be utilised in wicked magic or transformed into other hidious guises.

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	{{Topquote\|Life's a bitch, then you die.\|The Washington Post}}		{{Topquote\|Life's a bitch, then you die.\|The Washington Post}}

	'''The Gray ~~Wastes~~ of Hades''' is the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] [[Planescape\|plane]] in the [[Dungeons & Dragons]] [[Great Wheel]] cosmology. It obviously takes much inspiration from the Greek afterlife, hence the name.		'''Hades''' (renamed in [[Planescape]] to the '''Gray Waste''', with both names later being combined into '''The Gray Waste of Hades''') is the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] [[Planescape\|plane]] in the [[Dungeons & Dragons]] [[Great Wheel]] cosmology. It obviously takes much inspiration from the Greek afterlife, hence the name.

	Its favorable location of equal "subjective" distance between the Abyss and Hell make it the most active battle-zone in the [[Blood War]], where Demons and Devils clash over who is the evilest. Unfortunately, this distracts from what Hades is all about.		Its favorable location of equal "subjective" distance between the Abyss and Hell make it the most active battle-zone in the [[Blood War]], where Demons and Devils clash over who is the evilest. Unfortunately, this distracts from what Hades is all about.

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	==Inhabitants==		==Inhabitants==
	There are two types of petitioners in Hades: The ethereal kind, who are disembodied souls who don't even get sensory bodies with which to suffer their eternal torment, thereby adding to that sense of loneliness and despair. These spirits tend to flock towards mortal visitors like desperate wastrels, hoping to leech off some of warmth and positive emotion, but they are harmless.		There are two types of petitioners in Hades. The first is the ethereal kind, who are disembodied souls who don't even get sensory bodies with which to suffer their eternal torment, thereby adding to that sense of loneliness and despair. These spirits tend to flock towards mortal visitors like desperate wastrels, hoping to leech off some of warmth and positive emotion, but they are harmless.

	Then you get the larval kind of petitioner, who are common throughout the lower planes as giant man-sized maggots with mortal faces. Larva get used as currency, fiend-food, materials in spellcasting, or as raw recruits for promotion into the higher fiendish forms such as Demons and/or Devils.		Then you get the larval kind of petitioner, who are common throughout the lower planes as giant man-sized maggots with mortal faces. Larva get used as currency, fiend-food, materials in spellcasting, or as raw recruits for promotion into the higher fiendish forms such as Demons and/or Devils.

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	The seat of the Yugoloths' power in Hades rests in Oinos, where there is a tower, twenty miles high called the '''Khin-Oin'''. The tower is said to be the spinal column of a long-dead god that came to rest on the plane. At the top of the tower is a throne, called the ''Siege Malicious'' where the ruler of the tower may sit. It should be noted that the temporal ruler of the Yugoloths is the ''General of [[Gehenna]]'', though his power only extends as far as his ability to enforce it, and since he's on another plane the Yugoloths here pretty much serve themselves.		The seat of the Yugoloths' power in Hades rests in Oinos, where there is a tower, twenty miles high called the '''Khin-Oin'''. The tower is said to be the spinal column of a long-dead god that came to rest on the plane. At the top of the tower is a throne, called the ''Siege Malicious'' where the ruler of the tower may sit. It should be noted that the temporal ruler of the Yugoloths is the ''General of [[Gehenna]]'', though his power only extends as far as his ability to enforce it, and since he's on another plane the Yugoloths here pretty much serve themselves.

	The throne of the ''Siege Malicious'' gives the user the ability to create or modify any disease with just a thought. It comes with its own price, as any ruler who sits on the throne is ~~caused~~ to have their skin slough off and ~~disfiguring them~~. But this is nothing compared to usurpers who sit on the throne without the right to do so, who are inflicted with a particularly severe case of the '''[[AIDS\|Gray Wasting]]''' which is ''yet another'' disease inherent to the plane, but unrelated to '''The Grays''' or the entrapment effect.		The throne of the ''Siege Malicious'' gives the user the ability to create or modify any disease with just a thought. It comes with its own price, as any ruler who sits on the throne is cursed to have their skin slough off and be disfigured. But this is nothing compared to usurpers who sit on the throne without the right to do so, who are inflicted with a particularly severe case of the '''[[AIDS\|Gray Wasting]]''' which is ''yet another'' disease inherent to the plane, but unrelated to '''The Grays''' or the entrapment effect.

	It is often said that Oinos is the [[Nurgle\|~~origin~~ source ~~for~~ all disease]] in the multiverse. So you ~~don't~~ only have to watch out for the Grays and the spiritual weakening that comes with Hades, but you'll also have to prepare for the smorgasbord of pestilence and corruption that exists on this layer as well.		It is often said that Oinos is the [[Nurgle\|original source of all disease]] in the multiverse. So you not only have to watch out for the Grays and the spiritual weakening that comes with Hades, but you'll also have to prepare for the smorgasbord of pestilence and corruption that exists on this layer as well.

	===Niflheim===		===Niflheim===

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	But not only that, you'll have to look out for the [[Yugoloth]]s, the Neutral evil faction of outsiders much like Devils and Demons.		But not only that, you'll have to look out for the [[Yugoloth]]s, the Neutral evil faction of outsiders much like Devils and Demons.
	The seat of the Yugoloths power in Hades rests in Oinos, where there is a tower, twenty miles high called the '''Khin-Oin'''. The tower is said to be the spinal column of a long-dead god that came to rest on the plane. At the top of the tower is a throne, called the ''Siege Malicious'' where the ruler of the tower may sit. It should be noted that the temporal ruler of the Yugoloths is the ''General of [[Gehenna]]'', though his power only extends as far as his ability to enforce it, and since he's on another plane the Yugoloths here pretty much serve themselves.		The seat of the Yugoloths' power in Hades rests in Oinos, where there is a tower, twenty miles high called the '''Khin-Oin'''. The tower is said to be the spinal column of a long-dead god that came to rest on the plane. At the top of the tower is a throne, called the ''Siege Malicious'' where the ruler of the tower may sit. It should be noted that the temporal ruler of the Yugoloths is the ''General of [[Gehenna]]'', though his power only extends as far as his ability to enforce it, and since he's on another plane the Yugoloths here pretty much serve themselves.

	The throne of the ''Siege Malicious'' gives the user the ability to create or modify any disease with just a thought. It comes with its own price, as any ruler who sits on the throne is caused to have their skin slough off and disfiguring them. But this is nothing compared to usurpers who sit on the throne without the right to do so, who are inflicted with a particularly severe case of the '''[[AIDS\|Gray Wasting]]''' which is ''yet another'' disease inherent to the plane, but unrelated to '''The Grays''' or the entrapment effect.		The throne of the ''Siege Malicious'' gives the user the ability to create or modify any disease with just a thought. It comes with its own price, as any ruler who sits on the throne is caused to have their skin slough off and disfiguring them. But this is nothing compared to usurpers who sit on the throne without the right to do so, who are inflicted with a particularly severe case of the '''[[AIDS\|Gray Wasting]]''' which is ''yet another'' disease inherent to the plane, but unrelated to '''The Grays''' or the entrapment effect.

	It is often said that Oinos is the [[Nurgle\|origin source for all disease]] in the multiverse. So you don't only have to watch out for the Grays and the spiritual weakening that comes with Hades, but you'll also have to prepare for the smorgasbord of pestilence and corruption that exists on this layer as well.		It is often said that Oinos is the [[Nurgle\|origin source for all disease]] in the multiverse. So you don't only have to watch out for the Grays and the spiritual weakening that comes with Hades, but you'll also have to prepare for the smorgasbord of pestilence and corruption that exists on this layer as well.

	===Niflheim===		===Niflheim===

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	Its favorable location of equal "subjective" distance between the Abyss and Hell make it the most active battle-zone in the [[Blood War]], where Demons and Devils clash over who is the evilest. Unfortunately, this distracts from what Hades is all about.		Its favorable location of equal "subjective" distance between the Abyss and Hell make it the most active battle-zone in the [[Blood War]], where Demons and Devils clash over who is the evilest. Unfortunately, this distracts from what Hades is all about.

	It is the inverse of [[Elysium]], being the place of ultimate evil in ~~the~~ existence. Worse perhaps than the [[Abyss]] or [[Baator]] if only because it is not subject to the capricious whims of [[Chaotic Stupid\|Chaos]] or the regulations of [[Lawful Stupid\|Law]]. It's essentially the physical personification of clinical depression.		It is the inverse of [[Elysium]], being the place of ultimate evil in all existence. Worse perhaps than the [[Abyss]] or [[Baator]] if only because it is not subject to the capricious whims of [[Chaotic Stupid\|Chaos]] or the regulations of [[Lawful Stupid\|Law]]. It's essentially the physical personification of clinical depression.

	It is a bleak place of suffering and misery with no ulterior motive; cruelty without being sadistic and selfishness without ambition. Put simply, Hades represents [[Stupid Evil\|evil for its own sake.]]		It is a bleak place of suffering and misery with no ulterior motive; cruelty without being sadistic and selfishness without ambition. Put simply, Hades represents [[Stupid Evil\|evil for its own sake.]]

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	The final gloom of Hades would appear the most peaceful. It is a realm of withered forests and dusty olive groves. It's not ''quite'' terrible, but the aura of the place is one of impending doom and of being on the brink of apocalypse. There actually is not a lot of activity here and you could probably cross the layer relatively unmolested.		The final gloom of Hades would appear the most peaceful. It is a realm of withered forests and dusty olive groves. It's not ''quite'' terrible, but the aura of the place is one of impending doom and of being on the brink of apocalypse. There actually is not a lot of activity here and you could probably cross the layer relatively unmolested.

	Pluton is really the dumping ground for its entrapped mortals and petitioners. It is that "classical" afterlife of despair and self-pity. Unlike the more imaginative punishments of [[Baator\|Hell]], those who end up here are generally left to wallow in their own suffering in the desolate landscape... At least until a third party comes along. Devils and Demons come here looking for souls to conscript for the Blood War, whilst Hags occasionally herd petitioners together for use as currency.		Pluton is really the dumping ground for its entrapped mortals and [[petitioners]]. It is that "classical" afterlife of despair and self-pity. Unlike the more imaginative punishments of [[Baator\|Hell]], those who end up here are generally left to wallow in their own suffering in the desolate landscape... At least until a third party comes along. Devils and Demons come here looking for souls to conscript for the Blood War, whilst Hags occasionally herd [[petitioners]] together for use as currency.

	Pluton is also the bottom of Mount Olympus due to its connection with the Greek pantheon, ~~therefore~~ if you're clever, just find a hill and keep walking upwards. If you're fortunate you might eventually end up in [[Arborea]], but you're more likely to go mad while trying, as this place for all of its relatively quiet and peaceful nature still remains part of Hades and will still suck you dry of emotion and goodness.		Pluton is also at the bottom of Mount Olympus due to its connection with the Greek pantheon; therefore, if you're clever, just find a hill and keep walking upwards. If you're fortunate, you might eventually end up in [[Arborea]], but you're more likely to go mad while trying, as this place, for all of its relatively quiet and peaceful nature, still remains part of Hades and will still suck you dry of emotion and goodness.

	==Inhabitants==		==Inhabitants==
	There are two types of petitioners in Hades. The first is the ethereal kind, who are disembodied souls who don't even get sensory bodies with which to suffer their eternal torment, thereby adding to that sense of loneliness and despair. These spirits tend to flock towards mortal visitors like desperate wastrels, hoping to leech off some of warmth and positive emotion, but they are harmless.		There are two types of [[petitioners]] in Hades. The first is the ethereal kind, who are disembodied souls who don't even get sensory bodies with which to suffer their eternal torment, thereby adding to that sense of loneliness and despair. These spirits tend to flock towards mortal visitors like desperate wastrels, hoping to leech off some of warmth and positive emotion, but they are harmless.

	Then you get the larval kind of petitioner, who are common throughout the lower planes as giant man-sized maggots with mortal faces. Larva ~~get~~ used as currency, fiend-food, materials in spellcasting, or as raw recruits for promotion into the higher fiendish forms such as Demons and/or Devils.		Then you get the larval kind of petitioner, who are common throughout the lower planes as giant man-sized maggots with mortal faces. Larva gets used as currency, fiend-food, materials in spellcasting, or as raw recruits for promotion into the higher fiendish forms such as Demons and/or Devils.

	Due to the differences of religion on different worlds in the cosmos, there is no hard guarantee of which form you take in the afterlife of Hades. Though as a rule of thumb, particularly wicked and evil people become Larvae, whilst those who "end up" in Hades through lack of faith or by committing sins are probably going to end up as spirits.		Due to the differences of religion on different worlds in the cosmos, there is no hard guarantee of which form you take in the afterlife of Hades. Though as a rule of thumb, particularly wicked and evil people become Larvae, whilst those who "end up" in Hades through lack of faith or by committing sins are probably going to end up as spirits.
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	In the [[Pathfinder]] setting, Hades ''(along with [[Gehenna]])'' is an alternate name for '''Abaddon''', the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] plane of the [[Great Beyond]] cosmology. It is largely the same as its D&D incarnation; a bleak and blasted landscape populated by Night Hags, [[Daemon (Pathfinder)\|Daemons]], [[Div\|Divs]] and evil deities.		In the [[Pathfinder]] setting, Hades ''(along with [[Gehenna]])'' is an alternate name for '''Abaddon''', the [[Alignment\|Neutral Evil]] plane of the [[Great Beyond]] cosmology. It is largely the same as its D&D incarnation; a bleak and blasted landscape populated by Night Hags, [[Daemon (Pathfinder)\|Daemons]], [[Div\|Divs]] and evil deities.

	It encompasses the concept of oblivion of the mortal soul, even the petitioners rarely persist for longer than a few hours after their arrival; inevitably becoming swept up to be consumed by foul entities, or enslaved and sold to be ~~utilised~~ in wicked magic or transformed into other ~~hidious~~ guises.		It encompasses the concept of oblivion of the mortal soul, even the [[petitioners]] rarely persist for longer than a few hours after their arrival; inevitably becoming swept up to be consumed by foul entities, or enslaved and sold to be utilized in wicked magic or transformed into other hideous guises.

	What little light in the realm comes from a sun that exists under a perpetual eclipse and the landscape is peppered with dormant volcanoes, acidic seas and diseased forests. The '''River Styx''' bubbles up through the polluted soil like spring water and flows to locations on other planes.		What little light in the realm comes from a sun that exists under a perpetual eclipse and the landscape is peppered with dormant volcanoes, acidic seas, and diseased forests. The '''River Styx''' bubbles up through the polluted soil like spring water and flows to locations on other planes.

	==Inhabitants / Locations==		==Inhabitants / Locations==
	Petitioners of Abaddon are called ''"The Hunted"'' and are emaciated versions of their mortal forms. They are the lowest in the pecking order of the plane, and as mentioned; usually perish within a few hours of turning up on the plane. If they are lucky, they might survive long enough to start preying on each other and potentially becoming Daemons themselves.		[[Petitioners]] of Abaddon are called ''"The Hunted"'' and are emaciated versions of their mortal forms. They are the lowest in the pecking order of the plane, and as mentioned; usually perish within a few hours of turning up on the plane. If they are lucky, they might survive long enough to start preying on each other and potentially becoming Daemons themselves.

	Abaddon is the home of the Daemons in Pathfinder, and their leaders the [[Four Horsemen]], nominally led by '''Charon''': The Rider of Death, who holds his court in a mobile palace that drifts through the river Styx. '''Szuriel''', the Rider of War makes her realm in the ''Cinder Furnace'', a volcano forge that constantly churns out weapons of war, although the volcano no longer provides enough heat for forging, so captive souls are used as energy instead. '''Apollyon''' Rider of Pestilence claims ''Plaguemere'' and makes his castle in the hollowed out corpse of an ancient deity where he devises and spreads new diseases ''(much like Khin-Oin mentioned above)''. While '''Trelmarixian''': Rider of Famine holds his ''Withered Court'' in a tower made up of living flesh and bone.		Abaddon is the home of the Daemons in Pathfinder, and their leaders the [[Four Horsemen]], nominally led by '''Charon''': The Rider of Death, who holds his court in a mobile palace that drifts through the river Styx. '''Szuriel''', the Rider of War makes her realm in the ''Cinder Furnace'', a volcano forge that constantly churns out weapons of war, although the volcano no longer provides enough heat for forging, so captive souls are used as energy instead. '''Apollyon''' Rider of Pestilence claims ''Plaguemere'' and makes his castle in the hollowed-out corpse of an ancient deity where he devises and spreads new diseases ''(much like Khin-Oin mentioned above)''. While '''Trelmarixian''': Rider of Famine, holds his ''Withered Court'' in a tower made up of living flesh and bone.

	'''[[Ahriman]]''', Lord of Divs also keeps his realm of Ahermanabad within a bastion made up of fallen monuments at the top of Mount Kef. The Divs exist in a state of cold war with the Daemons, occasionally skirmishing with daemonic forces, but typically retreating so to not draw the full ire of the Four Horsemen. Instead the Divs spare most of their attention and considerable hatred for the mortal realms.		'''[[Ahriman]]''', Lord of Divs also keeps his realm of Ahermanabad within a bastion made up of fallen monuments at the top of Mount Kef. The Divs exist in a state of cold war with the Daemons, occasionally skirmishing with daemonic forces, but typically retreating so to not draw the full ire of the Four Horsemen. Instead, the Divs spare most of their attention and considerable hatred for the mortal realms.

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