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	As a general rule of thumb, sil-kargs are born of violence, conceived when a male hobgoblin violates a human woman, although the circumstances do vary depending on the precise tribe. Like half-orcs, they don't really fit in as a general rule; hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.		As a general rule of thumb, sil-kargs are born of violence, conceived when a male hobgoblin violates a human woman, although the circumstances do vary depending on the precise tribe. Like half-orcs, they don't really fit in as a general rule; hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.

	Amongst the Krangi, whilst sil-kargs are rarely conceived voluntarily, there are no official or unofficial prejudces against them in the society as a whole. A sil-karg can rise quite high if they are strong, cunning and honorable enough, and in fact they tend to be fairly comfortably off; even those sil-kargs who never leave the lower classes still tend to become wealthy merchants. This is partially ~~ecause~~ sil-kargs have no qualms about abandoning hobgoblin society to go looking for something better, however.		Amongst the Krangi, whilst sil-kargs are rarely conceived voluntarily, there are no official or unofficial prejudces against them in the society as a whole. A sil-karg can rise quite high if they are strong, cunning and honorable enough, and in fact they tend to be fairly comfortably off; even those sil-kargs who never leave the lower classes still tend to become wealthy merchants. This is partially because sil-kargs have no qualms about abandoning hobgoblin society to go looking for something better, however.

	Kargi hobgoblins, having the most brutally utilitarian view of sex and a society that regards females as only fit for breeding, naturally tend to conceive sil-kargs through violence. That said, a minority of Kargi-born sil-kargs are born to female hobgoblins choosing to mate with human men, although the circumstances that lead to such conceptions are undetailed. The Kargi are more racist than their Krangi rivals, so sil-kargs face official prejudice and more limited opportunities to gain power in Kargi society, which leads to many fleeing for human civilization instead.		Kargi hobgoblins, having the most brutally utilitarian view of sex and a society that regards females as only fit for breeding, naturally tend to conceive sil-kargs through violence. That said, a minority of Kargi-born sil-kargs are born to female hobgoblins choosing to mate with human men, although the circumstances that lead to such conceptions are undetailed. The Kargi are more racist than their Krangi rivals, so sil-kargs face official prejudice and more limited opportunities to gain power in Kargi society, which leads to many fleeing for human civilization instead.

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Sil-kargs

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	Sil-kargs are found alongside all five hobgoblin subraces, but are most prominent amonst the Krangi of Norga-Krangrel and the Kors, who have assimilated into the Kalamaran Empire.		Sil-kargs are found alongside all five hobgoblin subraces, but are most prominent amonst the Krangi of Norga-Krangrel and the Kors, who have assimilated into the Kalamaran Empire.

	Sil-kargs can result from the crossing of a human and a hobgoblin, the mating of two sil-kargs, or the crossbreeding of a sil-karg with either of its parent races. When sil-kargs of different hobgoblin stock interbreed, their children have a 50-50 chance of taking after either one of their parents (so a Krangi sil-karg and a Kargi sil-karg would produce offspring that are functionally "pure" of ~~both strains~~). As a result, sil-karg appearances can vary widely, from those which could pass as either a pure hobogoblin or even a pure human to more obviously hybridized stock. Unlike true hobgoblins, regardless of the species of their mother, sil-kargs are born either singularly or as twins, rather than in the traditional hobgob litters.		Sil-kargs can result from the crossing of a human and a hobgoblin, the mating of two sil-kargs, or the crossbreeding of a sil-karg with either of its parent races. When sil-kargs of different hobgoblin stock interbreed, their children have a 50-50 chance of taking after either one of their parents (so a Krangi sil-karg and a Kargi sil-karg would produce offspring that are functionally "pure" of either strain). As a result, sil-karg appearances can vary widely, from those which could pass as either a pure hobogoblin or even a pure human to more obviously hybridized stock. Unlike true hobgoblins, regardless of the species of their mother, sil-kargs are born either singularly or as twins, rather than in the traditional hobgob litters.

	As a general rule of thumb, sil-kargs are born of violence, conceived when a male hobgoblin violates a human woman, although the circumstances do vary depending on the precise tribe. Like half-orcs, they don't really fit in as a general rule; hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.		As a general rule of thumb, sil-kargs are born of violence, conceived when a male hobgoblin violates a human woman, although the circumstances do vary depending on the precise tribe. Like half-orcs, they don't really fit in as a general rule; hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.

1d4chan>QuietBrowser at 00:29, 17 March 2022

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	So, with this in mind, you might wonder why half-hobgoblins aren't a thing. Mostly, it's because orcs get all the limelight. But, not always... in some settings, hobgoblins do get to strut their stuff more freely. [[Dragonlance]] did it first, although hobgob/human crossbreeding there just results in a cosmetically different [[Half-Goblin]]. But the [[Kingdoms of Kalamar]] setting... that's another story.		So, with this in mind, you might wonder why half-hobgoblins aren't a thing. Mostly, it's because orcs get all the limelight. But, not always... in some settings, hobgoblins do get to strut their stuff more freely. [[Dragonlance]] did it first, although hobgob/human crossbreeding there just results in a cosmetically different [[Half-Goblin]]. But the [[Kingdoms of Kalamar]] setting... that's another story.

	In fact, Tellene is home to ''two'' different species of half-hobgoblin. '''Sil-kargs''' are the obligatory [[human]] hybrid, whilst ''Uk-Kargs''', introduced in the [[splatbook]] ''Strength & Honor: The Mighty Hobgoblins of Tellene'', are hybrids of hobgoblin and [[orc]]. Further complicating the matter is that there are five distinct subspecies of hobgoblin to be found on Tellene, and this influences their hybrid spawn as well.		In fact, Tellene is home to ''two'' different species of half-hobgoblin. '''Sil-kargs''' are the obligatory [[human]] hybrid, whilst '''Uk-Kargs''', introduced in the [[splatbook]] ''Strength & Honor: The Mighty Hobgoblins of Tellene'', are hybrids of hobgoblin and [[orc]]. Further complicating the matter is that there are five distinct subspecies of hobgoblin to be found on Tellene, and this influences their hybrid spawn as well.

	==Sil-kargs==		==Sil-kargs==

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Expanded the lore, added details on the hobgob-orc hybrid, added NeedsImages tag.

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 The [[hobgoblin]] and the [[orc]] have a rather conflicted relationship, with many asking "just what the fuck is the difference supposed to be, anyway?" Since at least 3rd edition, the general focus has been on hobgoblins being Lawful Evil and orcs being Chaotic Evil: both are conquerors, but whereas orcs will raze everything and just muck around in the resultant squalor, the hobgoblins are out to build empires. They'll crush you on the battlefield and demand you submit to them, but then, so long as you pay your taxes and don't rebel, they'll let you live a pretty normal life. Heck, they might even end up making things run better, since a good empire-builder understands the importance of things like decent roads, crackdowns on corruption, shit getting done when it needs to get done, etc...
 So, with this in mind, you might wonder why half-hobgoblins aren't a thing. Mostly, it's because orcs get all the limelight. But, not always... in some settings, hobgoblins do get to strut their stuff more freely. [[Dragonlance]] did it first, although hobgob/human crossbreeding there just results in a cosmetically different [[Half-Goblin]]. But the [[Kingdoms of Kalamar]] setting... that's another story.
-Sil-kargs, as their hobgoblin progenitors call them, essentially fill the classic half-orc niche in not really being accepted by either race. Hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.
+In fact, Tellene is home to ''two'' different species of half-hobgoblin. '''Sil-kargs''' are the obligatory [[human]] hybrid, whilst ''Uk-Kargs''', introduced in the [[splatbook]] ''Strength & Honor: The Mighty Hobgoblins of Tellene'', are hybrids of hobgoblin and [[orc]]. Further complicating the matter is that there are five distinct subspecies of hobgoblin to be found on Tellene, and this influences their hybrid spawn as well.
-==Sil-karg Stats==
+==Sil-kargs==
-::A sil-karg's stat modifier depends on whether its ancestry ties it to the Krangi (northern hobgoblin tribes) or Kargi (southern hobgoblin tribes): Half-Krangi get +2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom and -2 Charisma. Half-Kargi get +2 Constitution and -2 Intelligence.
+Sil-kargs are found alongside all five hobgoblin subraces, but are most prominent amonst the Krangi of Norga-Krangrel and the Kors, who have assimilated into the Kalamaran Empire.
 ::Medium size
 ::Base speed 30 feet
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 ::Hobgoblin Blood: Treat as Hobgoblin for purposes of feats, spells, magic items, etc that check ancestry
 ::+1 racial bonus to Fortitude saves
-::Favored Class: [[Fighter]]
+::[[Favored Class]]: [[Fighter]]
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1d4chan>FenaTiX at 19:19, 30 May 2021

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1d4chan>Stephenlucas600 at 21:43, 19 April 2021

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	[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]] [[Category:Dungeons & Dragons Races]]		[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]] [[Category:Dungeons & Dragons Races]]
			[[Category: Goblin]]

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The [[hobgoblin]] and the [[orc]] have a rather conflicted relationship, with many asking "just what the fuck is the difference supposed to be, anyway?" Since at least 3rd edition, the general focus has been on hobgoblins being Lawful Evil and orcs being Chaotic Evil: both are conquerors, but whereas orcs will raze everything and just muck around in the resultant squalor, the hobgoblins are out to build empires. They'll crush you on the battlefield and demand you submit to them, but then, so long as you pay your taxes and don't rebel, they'll let you live a pretty normal life. Heck, they might even end up making things run better, since a good empire-builder understands the importance of things like decent roads, crackdowns on corruption, shit getting done when it needs to get done, etc...

So, with this in mind, you might wonder why half-hobgoblins aren't a thing. Mostly, it's because orcs get all the limelight. But, not always... in some settings, hobgoblins do get to strut their stuff more freely. [[Dragonlance]] did it first, although hobgob/human crossbreeding there just results in a cosmetically different [[Half-Goblin]]. But the [[Kingdoms of Kalamar]] setting... that's another story.

Sil-kargs, as their hobgoblin progenitors call them, essentially fill the classic half-orc niche in not really being accepted by either race. Hobgoblins believe them to be too inherently chaotic and dishonorable to trust, whilst humans tend to see them as products of evil or as conquer-craving monsters. This makes the typical sil-karg desperate to fit in, often struggling to find some way of figuring out who they are. Those who try to dwell amongst hobgoblins tend to become social martyrs, driven to any lengths to prove they can be as honor-bound as their progenitors. Those who dwell in human lands, conversely, tend to embrace their chaotic individuality, constantly trying new things and experimenting in order to discover themselves.

==Sil-karg Stats==
::A sil-karg's stat modifier depends on whether its ancestry ties it to the Krangi (northern hobgoblin tribes) or Kargi (southern hobgoblin tribes): Half-Krangi get +2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom and -2 Charisma. Half-Kargi get +2 Constitution and -2 Intelligence.
::Medium size
::Base speed 30 feet
::Darkvision 60 feet
::Hobgoblin Blood: Treat as Hobgoblin for purposes of feats, spells, magic items, etc that check ancestry
::+1 racial bonus to Fortitude saves
::Favored Class: [[Fighter]]

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