Half-Ogre - Revision history

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	::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1 if size increased, otherwise +0		::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1 if size increased, otherwise +0

	Both the Races of Destiny and the Krynnish Half-Ogre is instead treated as a race in its own right. Of the two, the '''[[Races of Destiny]]''' version is definitely the more powerful: [[Dungeon Magazine]] #149 would also use the RoD Half-Ogre as the basis for its [[Verbeeg]] conversion by keeping the Size at Medium and dropping the Int and Cha penalties in exchange for only getting a +4 to Str, portraying the former [[Giant-kin]] as instead half-ogres whose human ancestry is dominant.		Both the Races of Destiny and the Krynnish Half-Ogre is instead treated as a race in its own right. Of the two, the '''[[Races of Destiny]]''' version is definitely the more powerful: [[Dungeon Magazine]] #149 would also use the RoD Half-Ogre as the basis for its [[Verbeeg]] conversion by keeping the Size at Medium and dropping the Int and Cha penalties in exchange for only getting a +6 to Str, portraying the former [[Giant-kin]] as instead half-ogres whose human ancestry is dominant.
	::+6 Strength~~, -2 Dexterity~~, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma		::+8 Strength, +4 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
	::Giant type		::Giant type
	::Large size		::Large size
	::Base speed 30 feet		::Base speed 30 feet
	::Darkvision 60 feet		::Darkvision 90 feet
			::Light Blindness
	::Natural Armor +4		::Natural Armor +4
	::[[Favored Class]]: [[Barbarian]]		::[[Favored Class]]: [[Barbarian]]
	::[[Level Adjustment]]: +2		::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1

	The '''[[Dragonlance\|Krynnish]]''' Half-Ogre is weaker, but at the same time, it has much better support. See, in the [[Dragonlance]] setting, ogres are actually pretty big deals in terms of the evil humanoid races, in no small part because orcs don't exist on Krynn. As such, half-ogres actually have a free niche to fill on their own, giving them a freedom they lack in other settings.		The '''[[Dragonlance\|Krynnish]]''' Half-Ogre is weaker, but at the same time, it has much better support. See, in the [[Dragonlance]] setting, ogres are actually pretty big deals in terms of the evil humanoid races, in no small part because orcs don't exist on Krynn. As such, half-ogres actually have a free niche to fill on their own, giving them a freedom they lack in other settings.
	::+4 Strength, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma		::+8 Strength, +4 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
	::~~Medium~~		::Large size
	::Humanoid (Ogre)		::Humanoid (Ogre)
	::Base Speed 30 feet		::Base Speed 30 feet
	::Low-Light Vision		::Low-Light Vision
	::+1 Natural Armor Bonus		::+4 Natural Armor Bonus
	::[[Favored Class]]: [[Fighter]]		::[[Favored Class]]: [[Fighter]]
	::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1		::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1

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	[[File:Half-ogre Savage Species 3e.jpg\|thumb\|Half-ogre from ''[[Savage Species]]''.]]		[[File:Half-ogre Savage Species 3e.jpg\|thumb\|Half-ogre from ''[[Savage Species]]''.]]
	[[File:Half ogre Dragon 313.jpg\|thumb\|''[[Dragon Magazine\|Dragon]] #313'']]		[[File:Half ogre Dragon 313.jpg\|thumb\|''[[Dragon Magazine\|Dragon]] #313'']]
	There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[~~Races of X\|~~Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[~~Races of X\|~~Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.		There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.

	The Dragon #313 half-ogre is a template that can be applied to Giants, Humanoids and Monstrous Humanoids. Per its own lore, most half-ogres are actually [[ogre]]-[[orc]]s, followed by [[ogre]]-[[bugbear]]s and [[ogre]]-[[gnolls]]. [[Ogre]]-[[human]]s are the least common of their kind, and ogres mating with anything else is almost unheard of.		The Dragon #313 half-ogre is a template that can be applied to Giants, Humanoids and Monstrous Humanoids. Per its own lore, most half-ogres are actually [[ogre]]-[[orc]]s, followed by [[ogre]]-[[bugbear]]s and [[ogre]]-[[gnolls]]. [[Ogre]]-[[human]]s are the least common of their kind, and ogres mating with anything else is almost unheard of.
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	::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1 if size increased, otherwise +0		::[[Level Adjustment]]: +1 if size increased, otherwise +0

	Both the Races of Destiny and the Krynnish Half-Ogre is instead treated as a race in its own right. Of the two, the '''[[~~Races of X\|~~Races of Destiny]]''' version is definitely the more powerful: [[Dungeon Magazine]] #149 would also use the RoD Half-Ogre as the basis for its [[Verbeeg]] conversion by keeping the Size at Medium and dropping the Int and Cha penalties in exchange for only getting a +4 to Str, portraying the former [[Giant-kin]] as instead half-ogres whose human ancestry is dominant.		Both the Races of Destiny and the Krynnish Half-Ogre is instead treated as a race in its own right. Of the two, the '''[[Races of Destiny]]''' version is definitely the more powerful: [[Dungeon Magazine]] #149 would also use the RoD Half-Ogre as the basis for its [[Verbeeg]] conversion by keeping the Size at Medium and dropping the Int and Cha penalties in exchange for only getting a +4 to Str, portraying the former [[Giant-kin]] as instead half-ogres whose human ancestry is dominant.
	::+6 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma		::+6 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
	::Giant type		::Giant type

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	In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], the half-ogre's history is a rather unglamorous one. See, they've been around since the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition - and none other than [[Gary Gygax]] himself wrote up an article on half-ogre PCs in [[Dragon Magazine]] #29, with Roger Moore posting a follow-up expansion article in Dragon #73. But, at the same time, the half-ogre's been pushed to the background, save for warranting a place in the [[Monster Manual]].		In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], the half-ogre's history is a rather unglamorous one. See, they've been around since the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition - and none other than [[Gary Gygax]] himself wrote up an article on half-ogre PCs in [[Dragon Magazine]] #29, with Roger Moore posting a follow-up expansion article in Dragon #73. But, at the same time, the half-ogre's been pushed to the background, save for warranting a place in the [[Monster Manual]].

	The reason for this is two-fold. Firstly, the "big dumb ugly monster-blooded bruiser" niche is already amply filled by the [[half-orc]]. Secondly, given that an ogre is stronger than an orc, you'd expect a half-ogre to be likewise stronger than a half-orc - this makes half-ogres extremely hard to balance.		The reason for this is two-fold. Firstly, the "big dumb ugly monster-blooded bruiser" niche is already amply filled by the [[half-orc]]. Secondly, given that an [[ogre]] is stronger than an [[orc]], you'd expect a half-ogre to be likewise stronger than a half-orc - this makes half-ogres extremely hard to balance.

	And yet... they've clung on for dear life. Even if the [[goliath]] may have shoved them out of the limelight forever since it got promoted, the half-ogre was a PC option in the first three editions of the game.		And yet... they've clung on for dear life. Even if the [[goliath]] may have shoved them out of the limelight forever since it got promoted, the half-ogre was a PC option in the first three editions of the game.

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	[[File:Half-ogre Savage Species 3e.jpg\|thumb\|Half-ogre from ''[[Savage Species]]''.]]		[[File:Half-ogre Savage Species 3e.jpg\|thumb\|Half-ogre from ''[[Savage Species]]''.]]
			[[File:Half ogre Dragon 313.jpg\|thumb\|''[[Dragon Magazine\|Dragon]] #313'']]
	There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[Races of X\|Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[Races of X\|Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.		There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[Races of X\|Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[Races of X\|Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.

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			[[File:Half-ogre 5e.jpg\|thumb\|The Half-ogre in D&D's 5e [[Monster Manual]].]]
	The '''Half-Ogre''' is, as its name suggests, the fruit of the inevitable union between an [[ogre]] and a member of some other species. The resultant creature is tall, strong and hardy, if not quite as brawny as its ogre progenitor, but also possess considerably more brains than its pureblooded ogre kin - admittedly, it may still seem somewhat dimwitted by human standards.		The '''Half-Ogre''' is, as its name suggests, the fruit of the inevitable union between an [[ogre]] and a member of some other species. The resultant creature is tall, strong and hardy, if not quite as brawny as its ogre progenitor, but also possess considerably more brains than its pureblooded ogre kin - admittedly, it may still seem somewhat dimwitted by human standards.

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	===AD&D 2e===		===AD&D 2e===
			[[File:Half ogre MM 2e.png\|left\|thumb\|Half-ogre from the 2e ''Monstrous Manual''.]]
	The AD&D 2e Half-Ogre appeared in the Complete Book of Humanoids, alongside both its Ogre progenitor and its [[Oni]] cousin. In comparison to its pure-blooded kinsfolk, the 2e half-ogre looked like this - which was at least a better deal than they had in 1e!		The AD&D 2e Half-Ogre appeared in the Complete Book of Humanoids, alongside both its Ogre progenitor and its [[Oni]] cousin. In comparison to its pure-blooded kinsfolk, the 2e half-ogre looked like this - which was at least a better deal than they had in 1e!
	::Ability Score Range: Strength 14-18, Dexterity 8-12, Constitution 14-19, Intelligence 3-12, Wisdom 2-12, CHarisma 2-8		::Ability Score Range: Strength 14-18, Dexterity 8-12, Constitution 14-19, Intelligence 3-12, Wisdom 2-12, CHarisma 2-8
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			[[File:Half-ogre Savage Species 3e.jpg\|thumb\|Half-ogre from ''[[Savage Species]]''.]]
	There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[Races of X\|Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[Races of X\|Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.		There are actually three versions of the Half-Ogre in 3rd edition; one in Dragon #313, one in [[Races of X\|Races of Destiny]], and the Kyrnnish Half-Ogre in the [[Dragonlance]] Campaign Setting, which was reprinted in [[Races of X\|Races of Ansalon]]. "Secrets of Sarlona", an [[Eberron]] sourcebook, would also introduce the ''[[Eneko]]'', a Half-Ogre like species descended from [[Ogre]]/[[Half-Giant]] hybridization.

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	And yet... they've clung on for dear life. Even if the [[goliath]] may have shoved them out of the limelight forever since it got promoted, the half-ogre was a PC option in the first three editions of the game.		And yet... they've clung on for dear life. Even if the [[goliath]] may have shoved them out of the limelight forever since it got promoted, the half-ogre was a PC option in the first three editions of the game.

			BECMI also has the [[N'djatwa]], a half-ogre variant created from the union of [[ogre]] and '''[[elf]]'''. No, we're ''not'' kidding.

	===AD&D 1e===		===AD&D 1e===

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 ==World of Warcraft==
-Ogres in WoW are treated a bit more kindly than their D&D kin, and half-ogres are a bit more common. They're much more common among Horde races, particularly the orcs. The Hunter iconic, Rexxar, is a half-ogre.
+Ogres in WoW are treated a bit more kindly than their D&D kin, and half-ogres are a bit more common. They're much more common among Horde races, particularly the orcs. The Hunter iconic, Rexxar, is a Mok'nathal - a [[half-orc]]/half-ogre hybrid.
-Unfortunately, they missed out being statted in 3rd Edition's WoW conversion.
 ==See Also==