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	***That, and their version of Vietnam, called the Soviet-Afghanistan war. Started on the same year when China invaded Vietnam, in 1979. Ended in 1989. Not long before the collapse of the Union.		***That, and their version of Vietnam, called the Soviet-Afghanistan war. Started on the same year when China invaded Vietnam, in 1979. Ended in 1989. Not long before the collapse of the Union.
	**The reason for its downfall are not easy to boil down. Aforementioned oversized military budget, being caught in the Cold War did a substantial part, but also a culture of administrative corruption and cronyism the Soviets inherited from the state structures of the Russian Empire. The whole economy was centrally planned around the ideal of maximizing productivity through a series of four or five-year-plans in which certain goals, issued by the Communist Party, were meant to be achieved. However, the slow, monolithic bureaucracy that would give the [[Administratum]] a run for its money in how inefficient in worked, made achieving these goals impossible, be it through the tedious gears of administrators that had to approve every single thing on their desks or just straight up incompetence: The Socialist ideal pushed people from the factories and lowest stratas of society into high level government offices they were in no way equipped or capable to manage. The constant atmosphere of fear and terror that drooled out of the KGB also made sure that no serious innovative initiatives could take place; you had to accept the party line or say goodbye to your (and your families) few privileges, if you had some sort of power or ability useful to the Soviet State. This created a self-destructive culture of officials and directors frequently falsifying factory and bureaucracy records, which were then further edited the higher they went up in order to earn a promotion, make themselves look better or just avoid the all too watchful eye of the KGB - it was only after Chernobyl and the beginning of Perestroika under Gorbachev when the Soviet Leadership started to grasp how deeply fucked the entire Soviet economy even was. The revelations from these inquiries very quickly lead to the collapse of the USSR within just 5 years through the people that finally had enough of the Communists. Gorbachev, for the shit he (on some accounts, rightfully) gets was by 1986 presented with a problem that was impossible to find a solution for, even for more capable statesmen he ended up being.		**The reason for its downfall are not easy to boil down. Aforementioned oversized military budget, being caught in the Cold War did a substantial part, but also a culture of administrative corruption and cronyism the Soviets inherited from the state structures of the Russian Empire. The whole economy was centrally planned around the ideal of maximizing productivity through a series of four or five-year-plans in which certain goals, issued by the Communist Party, were meant to be achieved. However, the slow, monolithic bureaucracy that would give the [[Administratum]] a run for its money in how inefficient in worked, made achieving these goals impossible, be it through the tedious gears of administrators that had to approve every single thing on their desks or just straight up incompetence: The Socialist ideal pushed people from the factories and lowest stratas of society into high level government offices they were in no way equipped or capable to manage. The constant atmosphere of fear and terror that drooled out of the KGB also made sure that no serious innovative initiatives could take place; you had to accept the party line or say goodbye to your (and your families) few privileges, if you had some sort of power or ability useful to the Soviet State. This created a self-destructive culture of officials and directors frequently falsifying factory and bureaucracy records, which were then further edited the higher they went up in order to earn a promotion, make themselves look better or just avoid the all too watchful eye of the KGB - it was only after Chernobyl and the beginning of Perestroika under Gorbachev when the Soviet Leadership started to grasp how deeply fucked the entire Soviet economy even was. The revelations from these inquiries very quickly lead to the collapse of the USSR within just 5 years through the people that finally had enough of the Communists. Gorbachev, for the shit he (on some accounts, rightfully) gets was by 1986 presented with a problem that was impossible to find a solution for, even for more capable statesmen he ended up being.
	**These aforementioned problems were further exasperated by rising ethnic tensions in many parts of the multi-ethnic USSR, starting in the Baltic states. ~~Ask most~~ of the Post-Soviet states about how the KGB and Communist government treated them. The Holodomor and the KGB's treatment of ethnic minorities was atrocious. There's a reason that so many countries elected to leave the Soviet Union, a good number of which joined NATO to prevent ever being forced into the ~~Russian~~ state ever again.		**These aforementioned problems were further exasperated by rising ethnic tensions in many parts of the multi-ethnic USSR, starting in the Baltic states. Most of the Post-Soviet states would whine about how badly the KGB and Communist government treated them, despite being literal resort states for the elite and having the best-ever treatment in USSR, compared to the concentrated oppression of the mainland Russia and border states. The Holodomor affair and the KGB's treatment of ethnic minorities was atrocious, even if occasionally justified compared to the treatment of majority. There's a reason that so many countries elected to leave the Soviet Union, a good number of which joined NATO to prevent ever being forced into the Soviet state ever again. But a lot of these reasons had to do with no longer being able to rely on Soviet funding instead of honest work, personal enmity and ambition and friendly help from the rival political block.
	*'''The United States of America''' ''(1776-Present)'': '''THE HEAD OF THE FIRST WORLD.''' There is much controversy over whether the global Hegemony established by the United States counts as an empire or not. The merriam-webster definition of empire reads: ''a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority'', which even before you consider out of territory influence the vast amount of states with different cultures certainly means American meets the technical dictionary definition of empire, which means everybody still argues about but that some people are just more nerdy about how they do it then others. For argument's sake, we will consider the American Empire a reality here. What is not in doubt is that since the end of WWII, and especially since the end of the Cold War the United States has held near total sway in terms of global power, though recent moves by a resurgent China look to be eroding American Global Power and Influence. Which is all Bush Jr.'s fault for wasting energy on the Middle East when he should have checked China and Russia.		*'''The United States of America''' ''(1776-Present)'': '''THE HEAD OF THE FIRST WORLD.''' There is much controversy over whether the global Hegemony established by the United States counts as an empire or not. The merriam-webster definition of empire reads: ''a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority'', which even before you consider out of territory influence the vast amount of states with different cultures certainly means American meets the technical dictionary definition of empire, which means everybody still argues about but that some people are just more nerdy about how they do it then others. For argument's sake, we will consider the American Empire a reality here. What is not in doubt is that since the end of WWII, and especially since the end of the Cold War the United States has held near total sway in terms of global power, though recent moves by a resurgent China look to be eroding American Global Power and Influence. Which is all Bush Jr.'s fault for wasting energy on the Middle East when he should have checked China and Russia.
	**Much of the Global Hegemony of the US results from ordinary political pushes and pulls that happen between nations popularly called 'soft power'. It's just that America is seriously advantaged in this game, what with the largest consumer market, dollar currency, lack of resource dependency (America produces the most oil. Shocking, I know. America just needs even more of it), Lack of hostile/powerful neighbors being and military might. It also benefited greatly from the end of WWII, when the vast majority of its economic competitors were debt-laden bombed-out ruins that had to relinquish all their colonial possessions, giving America enormous market-share for several decades in international trade. Of course this share shrank after the rest of the world got back on its feet, but by that time America’s economic hegemony had been well-established.		**Much of the Global Hegemony of the US results from ordinary political pushes and pulls that happen between nations popularly called 'soft power'. It's just that America is seriously advantaged in this game, what with the largest consumer market, dollar currency, lack of resource dependency (America produces the most oil. Shocking, I know. America just needs even more of it), Lack of hostile/powerful neighbors being and military might. It also benefited greatly from the end of WWII, when the vast majority of its economic competitors were debt-laden bombed-out ruins that had to relinquish all their colonial possessions, giving America enormous market-share for several decades in international trade. Of course this share shrank after the rest of the world got back on its feet, but by that time America’s economic hegemony had been well-established.

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Humans are animals we have races

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	The common definition of an empire, as opposed to a kingdom, is that a commonly but not always divinely-ordained Emperor rules over subjects of multiple cultures, ~~peoples~~, and/or religions. '''''Empire''''' is derived from the Latin word '''Imperium''', which means "authority" and more specifically the authority to command numerous Roman legions.		The common definition of an empire, as opposed to a kingdom, is that a commonly but not always divinely-ordained Emperor rules over subjects of multiple cultures, races, and/or religions. '''''Empire''''' is derived from the Latin word '''Imperium''', which means "authority" and more specifically the authority to command numerous Roman legions.

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1d4chan>A Walrus: loaded term that anthropologists avoid with good reason.

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loaded term that anthropologists avoid with good reason.

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	The common definition of an empire, as opposed to a kingdom, is that a commonly but not always divinely-ordained Emperor rules over subjects of multiple cultures, ~~races~~, and/or religions. '''''Empire''''' is derived from the Latin word '''Imperium''', which means "authority" and more specifically the authority to command numerous Roman legions.		The common definition of an empire, as opposed to a kingdom, is that a commonly but not always divinely-ordained Emperor rules over subjects of multiple cultures, peoples, and/or religions. '''''Empire''''' is derived from the Latin word '''Imperium''', which means "authority" and more specifically the authority to command numerous Roman legions.

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	*'''Empire of [[Japan]]''' ''(538–1947)'': They've had an emperor since 538, but didn't actually make significant foreign or cultural conquests of any sort since the prior two attempts to do something in Korea ended in eventual expulsion. Japan really got into the empire-building business after it was first to industrialize among the nations of Eastern Asia, which wouldn't be that much of an advantage were it not for the fact that most nations around them (Russia, Korea, China) were in pretty bad shape so the Japanese had little trouble defeating and conquering them...except their own staggering ineptitude in some areas like the land-army and the navy actively undermining each other or not making any friends by being genocidal pricks, in some ways being arguably worse than the Nazis. For what it's worth, Japan did manage to build a respectably-sized empire starting from the 30s but saw it all collapse due to aforementioned assholery, poor supply lines and taking on the United Motherfucking States of America.		*'''Empire of [[Japan]]''' ''(538–1947)'': They've had an emperor since 538, but didn't actually make significant foreign or cultural conquests of any sort since the prior two attempts to do something in Korea ended in eventual expulsion. Japan really got into the empire-building business after it was first to industrialize among the nations of Eastern Asia, which wouldn't be that much of an advantage were it not for the fact that most nations around them (Russia, Korea, China) were in pretty bad shape so the Japanese had little trouble defeating and conquering them...except their own staggering ineptitude in some areas like the land-army and the navy actively undermining each other or not making any friends by being genocidal pricks, in some ways being arguably worse than the Nazis. For what it's worth, Japan did manage to build a respectably-sized empire starting from the 30s but saw it all collapse due to aforementioned assholery, poor supply lines and taking on the United Motherfucking States of America.
	**As critical as we are, it would be dishonest to deny how rapidly the Japanese were able to modernize after Commodore Perry's visit in the mid 1800's. The Meiji restoration for all intents and purposes put Japan into a position of dignity and power after the tumultuous downfall of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japan also led the world in military aviation along with Germany in the 1930s, having developed the Zero and especially the aircraft carrier concept, which would be helpful in defending a seaborne empire. To put in the rapidity of Japanese growth into perspective, the US annexed Hawaii (and later the Philippines) precisely because they feared said islands would fall into Japanese hands if they didn't get there first. While not completely implausible seeing how the Japanese seized Taiwan and the Kuril Islands after kicking China and Russia in the balls, the Hawaiian island were a retardedly far distance from Japan (even though that didn’t stop Japanese migrants from settling on the islands in search of jobs).		**As critical as we are, it would be dishonest to deny how rapidly the Japanese were able to modernize after Commodore Perry's visit in the mid 1800's. The Meiji restoration for all intents and purposes put Japan into a position of dignity and power after the tumultuous downfall of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japan also led the world in military aviation along with Germany in the 1930s, having developed the Zero and especially the aircraft carrier concept, which would be helpful in defending a seaborne empire. To put in the rapidity of Japanese growth into perspective, the US annexed Hawaii (and later the Philippines) precisely because they feared said islands would fall into Japanese hands if they didn't get there first. While not completely implausible seeing how the Japanese seized Taiwan and the Kuril Islands after kicking China and Russia in the balls, the Hawaiian island were a retardedly far distance from Japan (even though that didn’t stop Japanese migrants from settling on the islands in search of jobs).
	**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch. Their Navy kept the old flag though, which is on the level as the Nazi Swastika in many part of Asia, especially in China and Vietnam.		**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch. Their <s>Navy</s> [[Rules Lawyer\|Maritime Self-Defense Force]] kept the old flag though, which is on the level as the Nazi Swastika in many part of Asia, especially in China and Vietnam.
	*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.		*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.
	**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with. Fun bit of trivia, the German colonial legacy resulted in China now operating the largest Brewery in the world, a leftover from when Germany had occupied the harbour of Tsingtao after the Opium Wars. Some kreolic German languages survive in parts of Namibia, Togo and Cameroon to this day.		**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with. Fun bit of trivia, the German colonial legacy resulted in China now operating the largest Brewery in the world, a leftover from when Germany had occupied the harbour of Tsingtao after the Opium Wars. Some kreolic German languages survive in parts of Namibia, Togo and Cameroon to this day.

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	**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch. Their Navy kept the old flag though, which is on the level as the Nazi Swastika in many part of Asia, especially in China and Vietnam.		**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch. Their Navy kept the old flag though, which is on the level as the Nazi Swastika in many part of Asia, especially in China and Vietnam.
	*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.		*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.
	**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with.		**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with. Fun bit of trivia, the German colonial legacy resulted in China now operating the largest Brewery in the world, a leftover from when Germany had occupied the harbour of Tsingtao after the Opium Wars. Some kreolic German languages survive in parts of Namibia, Togo and Cameroon to this day.
	*'''(Great) Germany (Grossdeutsches Reich)''' ''(1933-1945)'': Colloquially known as '''[[Nazi\|Nazi Germany]]'''. The '''Third''' and shortest '''Reich''', though not for lack of ambition. Owing to Bismarck keeping the Austrians out of the German Empire, their first major conquest beyond the historic borders of Germany was Austria. They claimed to be the greatest industrial power in Europe until they exhausted themselves fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered.		*'''(Great) Germany (Grossdeutsches Reich)''' ''(1933-1945)'': Colloquially known as '''[[Nazi\|Nazi Germany]]'''. The '''Third''' and shortest '''Reich''', though not for lack of ambition. Owing to Bismarck keeping the Austrians out of the German Empire, their first major conquest beyond the historic borders of Germany was Austria. They claimed to be the greatest industrial power in Europe until they exhausted themselves fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered.
	**Did you know the term Nazi was a derisive slur originally used by their political enemies? The political party was actually named NSDAP, '''Na'''tionalso'''zi'''alistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or "National Socialist German Worker Party". They were called Nazis because, in German, it was an insult for Bavarian hillbillies, and most National Socialists came from Bavaria.		**Did you know the term Nazi was a derisive slur originally used by their political enemies? The political party was actually named NSDAP, '''Na'''tionalso'''zi'''alistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or "National Socialist German Worker Party". They were called Nazis because, in German, it was an insult for Bavarian hillbillies, and most National Socialists came from Bavaria.

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	*'''Empire of [[Japan]]''' ''(538–1947)'': They've had an emperor since 538, but didn't actually make significant foreign or cultural conquests of any sort since the prior two attempts to do something in Korea ended in eventual expulsion. Japan really got into the empire-building business after it was first to industrialize among the nations of Eastern Asia, which wouldn't be that much of an advantage were it not for the fact that most nations around them (Russia, Korea, China) were in pretty bad shape so the Japanese had little trouble defeating and conquering them...except their own staggering ineptitude in some areas like the land-army and the navy actively undermining each other or not making any friends by being genocidal pricks, in some ways being arguably worse than the Nazis. For what it's worth, Japan did manage to build a respectably-sized empire starting from the 30s but saw it all collapse due to aforementioned assholery, poor supply lines and taking on the United Motherfucking States of America.		*'''Empire of [[Japan]]''' ''(538–1947)'': They've had an emperor since 538, but didn't actually make significant foreign or cultural conquests of any sort since the prior two attempts to do something in Korea ended in eventual expulsion. Japan really got into the empire-building business after it was first to industrialize among the nations of Eastern Asia, which wouldn't be that much of an advantage were it not for the fact that most nations around them (Russia, Korea, China) were in pretty bad shape so the Japanese had little trouble defeating and conquering them...except their own staggering ineptitude in some areas like the land-army and the navy actively undermining each other or not making any friends by being genocidal pricks, in some ways being arguably worse than the Nazis. For what it's worth, Japan did manage to build a respectably-sized empire starting from the 30s but saw it all collapse due to aforementioned assholery, poor supply lines and taking on the United Motherfucking States of America.
	**As critical as we are, it would be dishonest to deny how rapidly the Japanese were able to modernize after Commodore Perry's visit in the mid 1800's. The Meiji restoration for all intents and purposes put Japan into a position of dignity and power after the tumultuous downfall of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japan also led the world in military aviation along with Germany in the 1930s, having developed the Zero and especially the aircraft carrier concept, which would be helpful in defending a seaborne empire. To put in the rapidity of Japanese growth into perspective, the US annexed Hawaii (and later the Philippines) precisely because they feared said islands would fall into Japanese hands if they didn't get there first. While not completely implausible seeing how the Japanese seized Taiwan and the Kuril Islands after kicking China and Russia in the balls, the Hawaiian island were a retardedly far distance from Japan (even though that didn’t stop Japanese migrants from settling on the islands in search of jobs).		**As critical as we are, it would be dishonest to deny how rapidly the Japanese were able to modernize after Commodore Perry's visit in the mid 1800's. The Meiji restoration for all intents and purposes put Japan into a position of dignity and power after the tumultuous downfall of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japan also led the world in military aviation along with Germany in the 1930s, having developed the Zero and especially the aircraft carrier concept, which would be helpful in defending a seaborne empire. To put in the rapidity of Japanese growth into perspective, the US annexed Hawaii (and later the Philippines) precisely because they feared said islands would fall into Japanese hands if they didn't get there first. While not completely implausible seeing how the Japanese seized Taiwan and the Kuril Islands after kicking China and Russia in the balls, the Hawaiian island were a retardedly far distance from Japan (even though that didn’t stop Japanese migrants from settling on the islands in search of jobs).
	**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch.		**Note that while modern Japan is still named the same as the Japanese Empire was, the name is now officially translated as Japanese State rather than Japanese Empire. It also still maintains an Emperor as a constitutional monarch. Their Navy kept the old flag though, which is on the level as the Nazi Swastika in many part of Asia, especially in China and Vietnam.
	*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.		*'''German Empire''' ''(1871–1918)'': '''The Second Reich,''' put together by Otto von Bismarck's political genius and Prussian efficiency, it took a collection of feuding principalities and, in a few decades, turned them into the greatest industrial power in Europe until it was exhausted fighting pretty much every other industrial power that mattered, twice. Bismarck famously kept the Austrian Empire out of the German Empire owing to the long-standing Prussian-Austrian rivalry within the HRE and the fact that incorporating the Austrians would've meant bringing in huge masses of non-German populations.
	**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with.		**Officially ceased to exist after World War I. However, the German Empire had somewhat limited expansion after Wilhelm the Ist died. His successor thought he'd be better and kicked Bismarck out and pursued colonial ventures. Only problem was that Wilhelm the IInd couldn't decide whether they needed to be killing asians, French, Brits, or Russians for the majority of its existence post Bismarck. This explains why Germany had the odd colony all over the world and in the strangest places, including the Pacific, Africa, and the Caribbean: Wilhelm couldn't figure out which group of minorities he wanted to kill/compete with.