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	Imperial battlecruisers are one of the few examples of a correct use of the term battlecruiser in sci-fi, where it's often simply a generic big ship term. A real battlecruiser is a ship carrying firepower of a battleship but with mobility of a cruiser at the cost of protection, thus allowing it to outgun anything it can't outrun and allowing it to outrun anything it can't outgun.		Imperial battlecruisers are one of the few examples of a correct use of the term battlecruiser in sci-fi, where it's often simply a generic big ship term. A real battlecruiser is a ship carrying firepower of a battleship but with mobility of a cruiser at the cost of protection, thus allowing it to outgun anything it can't outrun and allowing it to outrun anything it can't outgun.

	== Battlecruiser Classes ==		==Battlecruiser Classes==

	=== Basic ===		===Basic===

	==== Armageddon ====		====Armageddon====

	[[File:BFGAArmageddon.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Still ready to serve.]]		[[File:BFGAArmageddon.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Still ready to serve.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.5 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.5 gravities max sustainable acceleration

	=== Carrier ===		===Carrier===

	==== Dominion ====		====Dominion====

	[[File:DominionClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|A ship so fucked over, you would think [[Angron]] designed that class.]]		[[File:DominionClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|A ship so fucked over, you would think [[Angron]] designed that class.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	==== Mars ====		====Mars====

	[[File:BFGAMars.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Needs more love.]]		[[File:BFGAMars.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Needs more love.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

	==== Jovian ====		====Jovian====
	[[File:JovianClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The Gerard R. Ford of Imperial carrier battlecruisers.]]		[[File:JovianClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The Gerard R. Ford of Imperial carrier battlecruisers.]]
	A true supercarrier in every sense of the term and basically what the Dominion should have been.		A true supercarrier in every sense of the term and basically what the Dominion should have been.
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

	=== Ordinance-Boat ===		===Ordinance-Boat===

	==== Chalice ====		====Chalice====

	[[File:Chalice_Class_Battlecruiser.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Flawed but a good ship nonetheless.]]		[[File:Chalice_Class_Battlecruiser.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Flawed but a good ship nonetheless.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 3.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 3.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration

	==== Long Serpent ====		====Long Serpent====

	[[File:LongSerpentCruiser.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Hur hur. Battlecruiser goes fwoosh!]]		[[File:LongSerpentCruiser.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Hur hur. Battlecruiser goes fwoosh!]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 3.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 3.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	==== Mercury ====		====Mercury====

	[[File:MercuryClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The more successful version of the Long Serpent.]]		[[File:MercuryClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The more successful version of the Long Serpent.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 3.5 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx		*'''Acceleration:''' 3.5 gravities max sustainable acceleration; approx

	==== Overlord ====		====Overlord====

	[[File:BFGAOverlord.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Retribution in my pocket.]]		[[File:BFGAOverlord.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Retribution in my pocket.]]
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	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.4 gravities max sustainable acceleration

	== In Battlefleet Gothic ==		==In Battlefleet Gothic==

	Much like the Grand Cruisers before them, Battlecruisers come in as a cheaper and faster alternative to a Battleship.		Much like the Grand Cruisers before them, Battlecruisers come in as a cheaper and faster alternative to a Battleship.
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	The '''Overlord''' is your long-range option and everything the Tyrant wishes it was. With four plasma macrobatteries there's no wasted slots on mixed-range weapons, and the massive range on said batteries and its lance turrets means it can lurk well beyond the range of most enemy vessels and still contribute in full. Perhaps the only notably weakness is in its lack of a Nova Cannon, but that's a small price to pay for such an otherwise efficient sniper vessel.		The '''Overlord''' is your long-range option and everything the Tyrant wishes it was. With four plasma macrobatteries there's no wasted slots on mixed-range weapons, and the massive range on said batteries and its lance turrets means it can lurk well beyond the range of most enemy vessels and still contribute in full. Perhaps the only notably weakness is in its lack of a Nova Cannon, but that's a small price to pay for such an otherwise efficient sniper vessel.

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1d4chan>Piroko: /* Chalice */

2022-11-30T12:22:30Z

Chalice

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	An attempt by enginseers in the Calixis sector to create a heavily-armored Cruiser, the ''Chalice'' was, in the end, unsuccessful, due to a combination of weak armor and plasma conduits that had an unfortunate tendency [[Fail\|to break during assault.]]		An attempt by enginseers in the Calixis sector to create a heavily-armored Cruiser, the ''Chalice'' was, in the end, unsuccessful, due to a combination of weak armor and plasma conduits that had an unfortunate tendency [[Fail\|to break during assault.]]

	Despite this, many vessels of the class still serve in Battlefleet Calixis. Because for all its flaws, it ''does'' have supposedly impressive armaments and is fast. So, while it might break, it'll at least do a lot of damage first and if your smart you can keep them safe enough for them to be useful.		Despite this, many vessels of the class still serve in Battlefleet Calixis. Because for all its flaws, it ''does'' have supposedly impressive armaments and is fast [[Flames of War\|(fast 'n flimsy with big guns being a common design compromise historically speaking)]]. So, while it might break, it'll at least do a lot of damage first and if your smart you can keep them safe enough for them to be useful.

	Also, is it really an [[Macrocannon\|ordinance boat?]] There looks like a pair of [[lance]] turrets on the top near the bridge in the Chalice-class's picture if you look at the image on the right. Come to think of it, this ship’s picture looks like an artistic impression of an Armageddon-class, so maybe it’s a purpose built version of that instead of an upgraded Lunar.		Also, is it really an [[Macrocannon\|ordinance boat?]] There looks like a pair of [[lance]] turrets on the top near the bridge in the Chalice-class's picture if you look at the image on the right. Come to think of it, this ship’s picture looks like an artistic impression of an Armageddon-class, so maybe it’s a purpose built version of that instead of an upgraded Lunar.

1d4chan>Derpysaurus: /* Carrier */

2022-11-13T08:35:14Z

Carrier

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	==== Jovian ====		==== Jovian ====
	[[File:JovianClass.jpg\|~~250px~~\|right\|thumb\|The Gerard R. Ford of Imperial carrier battlecruisers.]]		[[File:JovianClass.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|The Gerard R. Ford of Imperial carrier battlecruisers.]]
	A true supercarrier in every sense of the term and basically what the Dominion should have been.		A true supercarrier in every sense of the term and basically what the Dominion should have been.

1d4chan>Derpysaurus: /* Carrier */

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Carrier

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	While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?		While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?

	*'''Length:''' ~~5km~~		*'''Length:''' 5.4km
	*'''Mass:''' 31 megatonnes; approx		*'''Mass:''' 31 megatonnes; approx
	*'''Crew:''' 95,000 crew, 17,500 pilots and support personnel; approx		*'''Crew:''' 95,000 crew, 17,500 pilots and support personnel; approx
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	*'''Mass:''' 33 megatonnes; approx		*'''Mass:''' 33 megatonnes; approx
	*'''Crew:''' 107,000 crew, 15,700 pilots and support personnel; approx		*'''Crew:''' 107,000 crew, 15,700 pilots and support personnel; approx
			*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

			==== Jovian ====
			[[File:JovianClass.jpg\|250px\|right\|thumb\|The Gerard R. Ford of Imperial carrier battlecruisers.]]
			A true supercarrier in every sense of the term and basically what the Dominion should have been.

			The Jovian-class Battlecruiser is a class of Battlecruiser used by the [[Imperial Navy]], named after the eponymous Jovian, a Mars-class Battlecruiser heavily modified to replace its forward and prow mounted batteries with Attack Craft hangers, in light of experiences of the [[First Tyrannic War]]. That's right, this thing goes all-in towards carrying aircraft and, like actual aircraft carriers, is lightly armed with only two turreted [[Macrocannon]]s/[[Lance Weapon]]s for protection.

			The vessel is noted to possess keen auspex arrays and the process of converting Mars Pattern ships to the template is relatively straightforward, producing a cost-effective vessel. However, some authorities such as the fleetlords of Battlefleet Bakka maintain a stubborn attachment to big-gun warships, [[derp\|impeding the vessel's uptake in some areas.]] At least one was utilised by Imperial forces during the Sabbat Worlds Crusade.

			As a true-blue aircraft carrier, the Jovian is big enough to house a diverse compliment of [[Fury Interceptor]]s, [[Faustus Interceptor]]s, [[Starhawk Bomber]]s and [[Shark Assault Boat]]s.

			*'''Length:''' 5km; approx
			*'''Mass:''' 30 megatonnes; approx
			*'''Crew:''' 86,000 crew, 28,500 pilots and support personnel; approx
	*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration		*'''Acceleration:''' 2.3 gravities max sustainable acceleration

1d4chan>Derpysaurus at 10:25, 2 October 2022

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	Built out of recovered [[Lunar-class Cruiser \|''Lunar''-class Cruiser]] hulls, the ''Armageddon''-class Battlecruiser was made to bulk up the numbers of the Imperial Navy in the lead-up to the Third War of [[Armageddon]].		Built out of recovered [[Lunar-class Cruiser \|''Lunar''-class Cruiser]] hulls, the ''Armageddon''-class Battlecruiser was made to bulk up the numbers of the Imperial Navy in the lead-up to the Third War of [[Armageddon]].

	While still possessing the [[Macrocannon\|default]] [[Torpedo\|weaponry]] of a Lunar Cruiser, the enhanced weapon systems and power relays added helped increase their range, with still enough power to spare to support a pair of additional [[Lance]] batteries.		While still possessing the [[Macrocannon\|default]] [[Torpedo\|weaponry]] of a Lunar Cruiser, the enhanced weapon systems and power relays added helped increase their range, with still enough power to spare to support a pair of additional [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]] batteries.

	On the flip side, all this additional equipment, plus the manpower ''needed'' to maintain them, and the supplies for the extra crew meant that the insides of the class were quite cramped. As a result, the Armageddon is not suited for operating independently for long periods of time.		On the flip side, all this additional equipment, plus the manpower ''needed'' to maintain them, and the supplies for the extra crew meant that the insides of the class were quite cramped. As a result, the Armageddon is not suited for operating independently for long periods of time.
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	A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.		A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.

	A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]] (Yes, we are as surprised as you are that [[Derp\|lobbying still exists in the 41st Millennium]]). Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.		A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance Weapon\|Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]] (Yes, we are as surprised as you are that [[Derp\|lobbying still exists in the 41st Millennium]]). Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.

	While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?		While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?
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	Built upon request by the Tech Priests of Bakka (why is a planet named “stupid” so fascinated with weird ship desi- Oooh), the Mercury was yet another design that came in the wake of the Gothic War. Similar to the ''Long Serpent'', the ''Mercury''-class used a Battleship's engineering suite to boost its speeds so it could run down pirate vessels.		Built upon request by the Tech Priests of Bakka (why is a planet named “stupid” so fascinated with weird ship desi- Oooh), the Mercury was yet another design that came in the wake of the Gothic War. Similar to the ''Long Serpent'', the ''Mercury''-class used a Battleship's engineering suite to boost its speeds so it could run down pirate vessels.

	The [[Macrocannon\|broadside weapons batteries]] and dorsal [[Lance\|lance turrets]] mounted on the Mercury have a range comparable with battleship, along with a [[Nova Cannon]], allowing it to rapidly dispatch these smaller vessels. Its armor remained unchanged, however, so a Mercury is still relatively more fragile than other Battlecruiser classes. Which means nothing as its stupidly good armament means any cruisers will either be crippled by the nova cannon and finished off or just beaten to death by firepower and lances.		The [[Macrocannon\|broadside weapons batteries]] and dorsal [[Lance Weapon\|lance turrets]] mounted on the Mercury have a range comparable with battleship, along with a [[Nova Cannon]], allowing it to rapidly dispatch these smaller vessels. Its armor remained unchanged, however, so a Mercury is still relatively more fragile than other Battlecruiser classes. Which means nothing as its stupidly good armament means any cruisers will either be crippled by the nova cannon and finished off or just beaten to death by firepower and lances.

	However, this speed is very useful even when not used as a battlecruiser. The battleship engine suite and all the requirements that come with it are likely the cause of its significantly increased length. This ship is a lot bigger than other cruisers. More like a smallish Grand Cruiser.		However, this speed is very useful even when not used as a battlecruiser. The battleship engine suite and all the requirements that come with it are likely the cause of its significantly increased length. This ship is a lot bigger than other cruisers. More like a smallish Grand Cruiser.

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	A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.		A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.

	A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]]. Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.		A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]] (Yes, we are as surprised as you are that [[Derp\|lobbying still exists in the 41st Millennium]]). Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.

	While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s.		While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?

	*'''Length:''' 5km		*'''Length:''' 5km

68.149.126.73: /* Dominion */

2021-11-11T23:38:25Z

Dominion

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	A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.		A cautionary tale on not putting all your eggs under the decision making of a couple of sleazy bureaucrats.

	A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]] ~~(Yes, we are as surprised as you are that [[Derp\|lobbying still exists in the 41st Millennium]])~~. Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.		A class designed to replace the Mars-class, the ''Dominion'' carried long-range [[Lance]]s to compliment its payload of [[Fury Interceptor\|Assault]] [[Starhawk Bomber\|Craft]] by the fleetlords of Bakka while also having Lance batteries to satisfy the [[Wat\|"big-gun" lobby]]. Would be a great platform for a nova cannon.

	While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s. [[Derp\|After several of these ships were lost,]] construction of the class has ceased as a result. Because Emperor forbid a ship need support from other vessels. What do you think this is? A fleet?		While it performed admirably as fleet support ships, especially during the First Tyrannic War on Macragge, they still suffered the same issues as the [[Gothic-class Cruiser]]s.

	*'''Length:''' 5km		*'''Length:''' 5km