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Why Play Military Orders

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	Military Orders contain some of the best PanOceanian Heavy Infantry and is the most CC focused part of this overall shooty faction. It is still PanOceania though, so BS 14 all around. While they're not as adept in CC as some other factions are, they can at least put up a fight. Still, you should be shooting first, cutting later.		Military Orders contain some of the best PanOceanian Heavy Infantry and is the most CC focused part of this overall shooty faction. It is still PanOceania though, so BS 14 all around. While they're not as adept in CC as some other factions are, they can at least put up a fight. Still, you should be shooting first, cutting later.

	~~Unlike most sectorals, MO did not gain any Haris units; you are limited to Core and Duo.~~

	In General a Military Orders list will be centered around strong, straightforward HI units. And they give you an excuse to blast Saxon at your opponent.		In General a Military Orders list will be centered around strong, straightforward HI units. And they give you an excuse to blast Saxon at your opponent.

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Skirmishers/Warbands

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	*'''Palbots:''' PanOceanian G: Servants. If you take Machinist or any of the Doctors (aside form a linked Hospitaller), it's good to have one.		*'''Palbots:''' PanOceanian G: Servants. If you take Machinist or any of the Doctors (aside form a linked Hospitaller), it's good to have one.

	===Skirmishers~~/Warbands~~===		===Skirmishers===

	~~None~~. ~~Your Warband are the Magister~~ Knights.		*'''Dart, Optimate Huntress:''' A great alpha strike skirmisher, the Aristeia star of Acontecimento drops in to finally give MO a Skirmisher. Her kit is great for an alpha strike unit and putting her in Reserve may surprise your opponent. However she's pretty Order-hungry and Knights don't really like that. Might be a good replacement for infiltrating Konstantinos though.

	==Building Your Army==		==Building Your Army==

1d4chan>Smagg: /* Building Your Army */

2018-12-10T22:41:47Z

Building Your Army

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	==Building Your Army==		==Building Your Army==

	~~Since Military Orders are a rather straightforward, low model count sectoral, it mostly comes down~~ to ~~what do you want to be your main Order and Core link~~. ~~There~~'s ~~three main immediately apparent styles:~~		The easiest way to start is with the 300pts box. It's a ready to go Crusade Fireteam list. Regular starter box is showing its age, but works wen combined with OS box.

	*'''LI core + Rambo:''' A Core link of Order Sergeants or Fusiliers acting as defence and order pool while a Duo, solo knights or Seraph take the field. For this you'll need either the MO Starter or Fusilier SWC box, as well as your chosen heavies.		Other sets to consider:
	*'''Magister link:''' Probably the most common style, a link of hardy yet cheap Magister Knights as the main combat force, clearing the field for Specialists to ~~take the objectives in Turn 2 and 3. Start with Magister Knights box, possibly get the two Hospitallers or Santiagos for a mixed link.~~
	*'''Full Heavy:''' Hospitallers or Santiago + Joan. Just a Knightly steamroller. A bit of a risk of putting all your eggs in one basket, but on the other hand a HI link is hard to remove. Santiagos and Hospitallers both have a nice box of four models.

	~~Once you've selected your style and played around with Army Builder~~, you ~~should be able~~ to ~~clarify a concrete shopping list.~~		* Order Sergeant Box - Maybe even two, for those HRLs, but at least one
			* Hospitallers or Magisters - for the main link
			* Santiago - you are going to use Santiago
			* Father-Knight and Holy Sepulchre - those two are great Lieutenant and backup Lieutenant

	~~'''The most common starting setup''':~~		Generally it will be very difficult to make a list without some "useless" models.
	* box of Hospitallers or Santiagos
	* box of Magister Knights
	* box of Order Sergeants
	* De Fernsen
	* Black Friar

	~~Things~~ to ~~consider:~~

	* PanOceanian Support Pack: I know Trauma-Doc is ugly, but the units inside are useful. No word of an MO-specific Support Box so far.
	* Dronbot Remotes and Mulebots: As cheap filler for your top-heavy army.
	* Indigo Brother Konstantinos: Find a ~~Haqq player to split the box with or a good proxy model, because Konstantinos is almost auto-include. The MO starter pack Teuton could work as one.~~
	* Crusader Brethren

	~~Note that the MO starter box is ''not'' usually recommended~~.

	==Hints and Strategies==		==Hints and Strategies==

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	The unit overview and tactica for Military Orders sectoral.		The unit overview and tactica for Military Orders sectoral.

	~~'''IMPORTANT'''~~
	~~This tactica is not valid for the Third Offensive update yet.~~

	[[Image:Joan by robot jones.jpg‎ \|thumb\|Do it for her.]]		[[Image:Joan by robot jones.jpg‎ \|thumb\|Do it for her.]]

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Tactical Armoured Gear

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	===Tactical Armoured Gear===		===Tactical Armoured Gear===

	*'''Seraph Armoured Cavalry:''' ~~From the wide selection of~~ PanO ~~TAGs, knights have access to the fastest one with the smallest gun~~. Seraph is a jumping~~, mid-range~~ TAG with great BS and ARM, a ~~dedicated Active Turn killer~~. ~~Don~~'t ~~worry about keeping the Auxbot in range too much~~, it's ~~more of~~ a ~~bonus which you are bound to lose when jumping around~~. ~~CC 20 and an EXP CCW makes it also one~~ of the ~~few~~ TAGs ~~able to stand on~~ their own ~~in melee~~, ~~although much~~ like ~~with knights~~, ~~you should consider~~ it ~~plan B or even C~~. ~~Just remember~~ to ~~hide it or put it in Suppressive Fire at the end of your turn~~.		*'''Seraph Armoured Cavalry:''' The fastest and cheapest PanO TAG. Seraph is a jumping TAG with great BS and ARM. Now comes in two flavors: mid-range one with an Auxbot buddy (thankfully updated to bounce with the Seraph, so you will no longer lose it) or a more conservative HMG with 2 Nanopulsers, better suited for jumping from behind a building in or near DZ and spraying all over the table. Note that CC 20 without any CC skills doesn't really make it good at swordfighting other TAGs; most have CC at 17-18, so it's a crapshoot either way (thought the Auxbot can give it extra Burst). Probably the most anime of all the TAGs.

			*'''Tikbalangs, Armoured Chasseurs of Acontecimento:''' MO gets their own Tikbalang variant, the Tikbalang of Montesa. Much like Seraph it's a mobile (AP) HMG platform, though much more expensive than it. It's better at fighting other TAGs thanks to AP ammo and Mimetism.

	**'''Crabbot Ancillary Remote Unit:''' Not a TAG, but a TAG brain that acts as a Pilot equivalent if your fancy mech gets fried. In true PanO fashion it has high BS and low WIP... Making it pretty useless, as it has no actual ballistic weapons.		**'''Crabbot Ancillary Remote Unit:''' Not a TAG, but a TAG brain that acts as a Pilot equivalent if your fancy mech gets fried. In true PanO fashion it has high BS and low WIP... Making it pretty useless, as it has no actual ballistic weapons.

1d4chan>Smagg: /* Heavy Infantry */

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Heavy Infantry

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Medium Infantry

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	*'''Black Friars:''' You may not be expecting the Inquisition, but it certainly expects you. The Black Friar has two distinct profiles: an MSV2 MULTI Sniper, making him a Nisse substitute and an anti-shenanigan MULTI Rifle profile. MSV2, Biometric Visor and Albedo should cut short any fancy movements from Camouflaged, Holoprojector and Impersonation units, without fear of retribution from MSV ARO pieces, while Drop Bears let him mine the minelayers. The downsides are his squishiness and slow movement, but he shouldn't be moving too far; he's a bit of a scare unit.		*'''Black Friars:''' You may not be expecting the Inquisition, but it certainly expects you. The Black Friar has two distinct profiles: an MSV2 MULTI Sniper, making him a Nisse substitute and an anti-shenanigan MULTI Rifle profile. MSV2, Biometric Visor and Albedo should cut short any fancy movements from Camouflaged, Holoprojector and Impersonation units, without fear of retribution from MSV ARO pieces, while Drop Bears let him mine the minelayers. The downsides are his squishiness and slow movement, but he shouldn't be moving too far; he's a bit of a scare unit.
			**Albedo profile is linkable with Order Sergeants. Why not Sniper Rifle? In a world with Kamau and Brawler I cannot give you a straight answer.

	===Heavy Infantry===		===Heavy Infantry===

1d4chan>Smagg: /* Light Infantry */

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Light Infantry

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	*'''Tech-Bees, Maintenance Battalions:''' An odd Irregular trooper, the Tech-Bee is a 5pts specialist (WIP12, but for that cost it's still a bargain) armed with a pistol and a Flash Pulse. But the more interesting part is Remote Assistant Level 1: Tech-Bee gives a +1 WIP bonus to all your Engineers and Remote Pilots, a.k.a Machinist and Crabbot (and in TAGline, Cordelia). Can be very strong with Engineer Spec-Ops. Pretty much auto-include in TAG lists and a strong option in Joan ones (if you have 2 points left over a Warcor).		*'''Tech-Bees, Maintenance Battalions:''' An odd Irregular trooper, the Tech-Bee is a 5pts specialist (WIP12, but for that cost it's still a bargain) armed with a pistol and a Flash Pulse. But the more interesting part is Remote Assistant Level 1: Tech-Bee gives a +1 WIP bonus to all your Engineers and Remote Pilots, a.k.a Machinist and Crabbot (and in TAGline, Cordelia). Can be very strong with Engineer Spec-Ops. Pretty much auto-include in TAG lists and a strong option in Joan ones (if you have 2 points left over a Warcor).

	*'''Trauma-Doc (Father-Doctor):''' The cheap Doctor option. Much like Machinist she's not very good, but she's also dirt-cheap. If you are not playing Hospitallers~~, and you don't want to pay extra for Bipandra,~~ you may consider her.		*'''Trauma-Doc (Father-Doctor):''' The cheap Doctor option. Much like Machinist she's not very good, but she's also dirt-cheap. If you are not playing Hospitallers you may consider her.

	*'''WarCor:''' He's a 3pts Regular Order if you play Joan. Sure, Flash Pulse and Aerocam are nice, but that's not why you're taking him.		*'''WarCor:''' He's a 3pts Regular Order if you play Joan. Sure, Flash Pulse and Aerocam are nice, but that's not why you're taking him.

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	This is where the fun starts: the knightly orders. Nearly all of them linkable, most with AVA 4 (although not all of them worth taking 4 of). This is the meat of the sectoral. Knights are all pretty straightforward.		This is where the fun starts: the knightly orders. Nearly all of them linkable, most with AVA 4 (although not all of them worth taking 4 of). This is the meat of the sectoral. Knights are all pretty straightforward.

	*'''Joan of Arc/2.0:''' Let's start with the poster-girl and obvious Lieutenant. Joan comes in two flavors, a heavier, more support one, with +1 SWC, and a lighter, faster Spitfire option (which also has +1 SWC, albeit eats 2, so it becomes 1 SWC spent). Both profiles linkable with Hospitallers ~~and~~ Santiago~~, allowing a full Core link,~~ and ~~most of~~ the ~~time you~~ will want ~~the 1.0 version: Hospitallers have their own HMG (~~or ~~De Fernsen~~ with a Spitfire~~) and Santiagos have surprisingly cheap Spitfires, but no Multi Rifles~~. Inspiring Leadership gives you an option to run her solo, activating a pseudo-link with her Lieutenant Order. NWI and MA3 go a long way too. The only "downside" is that you don't have that many Irregular troops to take advantage of Inspiring Leadership, as well as Frenzy.		*'''Joan of Arc/2.0:''' Let's start with the poster-girl and obvious Lieutenant. Joan comes in two flavors, a heavier, more support one, with +1 SWC, and a lighter, faster Spitfire option (which also has +1 SWC, albeit eats 2, so it becomes 1 SWC spent). Both profiles linkable with Hospitallers (in the strict Crusade Fireteam, which doesn't allow OS – but Santiago Wildcars are kosher) and any Duos in the sectorial (so Father-Knight and Santiago). The crusading Joan will want a Multi Rifle, while Duo or Solo will run better with a Spitfire. Inspiring Leadership gives you an option to run her solo, activating a pseudo-link with her Lieutenant Order. NWI and MA3 go a long way too. The only "downside" is that you don't have that many Irregular troops to take advantage of Inspiring Leadership, as well as Frenzy.

	*'''Equestrian Order of the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre:''' The Holoprojector 2 knight. Martial Arts 2, DA CCW and a Spitfire (or a Combi + ~~DEP~~ option if you're strapped for SWC), Holy Sepulchre makes for a decent solo rambo. ~~Now with Surprise Shot on Holoprojector~~ and ~~the ability to disguise Holoechoes, Sepulchre saw a rise in points~~, but he is ~~still~~ a ~~pretty decent solo knight~~. ~~Which makes~~ him ~~a less attractive choice~~ in ~~a sectorial where knights can link~~.		*'''Equestrian Order of the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre:''' The Holoprojector 2 knight. Martial Arts 2, DA CCW and a Spitfire (or a Combi + LGL/Breaker Combi option if you're strapped for SWC), Holy Sepulchre makes for a decent solo rambo. However there's another use for him: Chain of Command! Very useful in MO where all Lts are aggressive and expensive, but CoC is also a Specialist profile, which makes good use of his high WIP. Remember you can disguise him as something as lowly as an Order Sergeant, making your opponent bewildered if he kills your Joan and you're not in LoL.

	*'''Holy Order of Hospitaller Knights of St. John of Skovorodino:''' The biggest Military Order and the most versatile linkable HI in the sectoral, Hospitallers are better, cheaper ORCs when linkable. HMG, MA2 and a Doctor profile make Hospitallers a common choice of main Order.		*'''Holy Order of Hospitaller Knights of St. John of Skovorodino:''' The biggest Military Order and the most versatile linkable HI in the sectoral, Hospitallers are better, cheaper ORCs when linkable. HMG, MA2 and a Doctor profile make Hospitallers a common choice of main Order. Lost ability to link with Magisters for an Order Sergeant instead, but can fully Core without Joan now. You may want to run a Haris of them as well, considering he's a Doctor. The Lieutenant profile is a bit meh.
	**'''Father-Officer Gabriele De Fersen:''' The last Templar, linkable with Hospitallers, De Fersen is a very valid multiple-purpose HI character. Armed with a Spitfire and an Assault Hacking Device, this guy is ready to inflict pain and grab objectives. He's also one of the few knights with MA3 and no Frenzy. And, obviously, has a Templar CCW. Changing his regular HD to AHD in Human Sphere N3 limited his functionality and made "A Knight and His Remotes" list less viable, but he is still one of the best PanO hackers.		**'''Father-Officer Gabriele De Fersen:''' The last Templar, linkable with Hospitallers, De Fersen is a very valid multiple-purpose HI character. Armed with a Spitfire and an Assault Hacking Device, this guy is ready to inflict pain and grab objectives. He's also one of the few knights with MA3 and no Frenzy. And, obviously, has a Templar CCW. Changing his regular HD to AHD in Human Sphere N3 limited his functionality and made "A Knight and His Remotes" list less viable, but he is still one of the best PanO hackers, if costly and vulnerable to KHD.
	***Note: De Fersen "counts as a Hospitaller" for linking purposes, ~~so you can put him in a Magister link~~.

	*'''Magister Knights:''' The go-to Heavy Infantry Core link. Cheap as chips, armed with Panzerfausts and Light Shotguns, and can take a Missile Launcher, making them dominate both long and short range. ~~Now that they~~ can ~~mix~~ in ~~Hospitaller or Santiagos~~, they can also escort a Specialist or just be a cheap source of Fireteam bonuses for your ~~HMG~~/Spitfire troops. They should not run unlinked.		*'''Magister Knights:''' The go-to Heavy Infantry Core link. Cheap as chips, armed with Panzerfausts and Light Shotguns, and can take a Missile Launcher, making them dominate both long and short range. They can Core solo or count as Teutons (which lets them add an Order Sergeant in), they can also escort a Specialist or just be a cheap source of Fireteam bonuses for your HRL/Spitfire troops. They should not run unlinked.
	**Note that since ~~HSN3~~ they ~~need a Hospitaller or Santiago to be able to link~~.		**Note that since 3O they count as Teutons for fireteam purposes.

	*'''Military Order of Father-Kinghts:''' Not actually a knightly Order, Father-Knights are extremely hardy general purpose HI. BTS 9 and WIP 13 make them a pain to hack, Assault and Kinematica lets them close distance to non-CC focused troops quite well. They can also be armed with an ML or take a specialist profile. Lastly, there's a Duo ~~profile~~, so you can take two Father-Knights riding together. ~~What~~'~~s not~~ to ~~like?~~		*'''Military Order of Father-Kinghts:''' Not actually a knightly Order, Father-Knights are extremely hardy general purpose HI. BTS 9 and WIP 13 make them a pain to hack, Assault and Kinematica lets them close distance to non-CC focused troops quite well. They can also be armed with an ML or take a specialist profile. Lastly, there's native Duo on all profiles, so you can take two Father-Knights riding together. But you'll usually want to link one with either Joan or Order Sergeants. In fact you can fit as many as 3 into an OS link, spice with Santiago/BF/Konstantinos (or the ever present HRL OS) for a hardy Pain Train style link.
	**~~Here's what: can't link with Magisters and~~ the ~~Duo~~ profile is ~~useless~~. ~~Father-Knights are usually taken in vanilla rather than MO~~.		**Note that the non-Spitfire Lt. profile is a Forward Observer with an Anti-Materiel CCW. Good choice for a DataTracker, but most people will probably want the Lt. to wield a Spitfire.

	*'''Montesa Order Motorized Knights:''' The first biker HI, making Yu Jing forever salty. Montesa are fast, durable and killy, though they have "low" BS 13 and only pack Multi Rifles or BSG, making them feel a little undergunned. Mimetism outsets their inability to take Cover. They're cool, but personally I would use a Bulleteer instead.		*'''Montesa Order Motorized Knights:''' The first biker HI, making Yu Jing forever salty. Montesa are fast, durable and killy, though they have "low" BS 13 and only pack Multi Rifles or BSG, making them feel a little undergunned. Mimetism outsets their inability to take Cover. They're cool, but personally I would use a Bulleteer instead.
	** Sectorial gives them an extra profile: Paramedic! Now you have a fast, hard hitting and durable Specialist all in one package.		** Sectorial gives them an extra profile: Paramedic! Now you have a fast, hard hitting and durable Specialist all in one package.

	*'''Sacred Military Order of Knights of Santiago:''' The 360 visor knights and the ~~second Order that can take Joan~~. ~~With both Fireteam Core and~~ Duo~~, Santiago are a purely aggressive option, with no blind spots~~. ~~Their only downside is no long-range weaponry, but since~~ you can ~~just add one or two to~~ a Magister ~~link, that should~~ not ~~be a problem~~. ~~They want to push forward anyway~~.		*'''Sacred Military Order of Knights of Santiago:''' Santiagos gone Wild! The 360 visor knights have only 3 profiles, all of them Specialists (one very valuable KHD) and Wildcard! Expect to see them a lot. Too bad they lost the BSG profile as now the box has one useless model. They also have native Duo to run alongside Joan.
			**Due to Wildcard you can put multiple Santiagos in a Magister Knight/"Teuton" fireteam (depending if you take OS or not) and have something like the previous Santiago + Magisters. Or take two Santiago and three Father-Knights for an "OS" Pain Train.

	*'''Sacred Military Order of Teutonic Knights:''' ~~Sadly~~, they~~'re kinda shit~~. ~~Non-linkable~~, ~~Frenzy, buffed up Magisters with none of their perks~~. ~~They provide a~~ cheap ~~BS 14 Spitfire/Panzerfaust platform~~ and ~~can be use~~ with ~~Joan of Arc's Coordinated Inspiring Leadership. Also it may be worth considering for~~ a ~~low-points game or as filler; nothing more. Even then many other knights can fill those roles better than the Teuton Knight~~.		*'''Sacred Military Order of Teutonic Knights:''' Now they can link with Magisters and can Haris, they also have a valuable NCO profile. Which is fine and dandy, but they are still outshined by every other knightly order. That said they're not as useless as they used to be and Teutons are still pretty cheap and handy with a Spitfire.

	===Tactical Armoured Gear===		===Tactical Armoured Gear===