Jagdtiger - Revision history

imported>Administrator: 13 revisions imported

2023-06-21T16:04:26Z

13 revisions imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 16:04, 21 June 2023
(No difference)

imported>Administrator: 1 revision imported

2023-06-19T02:22:50Z

1 revision imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 02:22, 19 June 2023
(No difference)

82.132.245.181 at 11:53, 3 March 2023

2023-03-03T11:53:49Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:53, 3 March 2023
Line 18:		Line 18:
	Even though the gun was reported to have shot through a house and killed an American tank, this is not an accomplishment due to the fact that the Sherman chassis didn't really stand a chance against most late war German tanks. Combined with its high muzzle flash and the cannon being so powerful that it blinded the loaders (yes, loader, but PLURAL), it could fire exactly once, then maybe breakdown trying to move 2 feet before being abandoned. Even the much-maligned Elefant was a more effective weapon than the Jagdtiger.		Even though the gun was reported to have shot through a house and killed an American tank, this is not an accomplishment due to the fact that the Sherman chassis didn't really stand a chance against most late war German tanks. Combined with its high muzzle flash and the cannon being so powerful that it blinded the loaders (yes, loader, but PLURAL), it could fire exactly once, then maybe breakdown trying to move 2 feet before being abandoned. Even the much-maligned Elefant was a more effective weapon than the Jagdtiger.

	Two other facts stand out as utter hilarity: More Jagdtigers were lost to breakdown and mechanical issues than they were combat losses, and one Jagdtiger was attacked by Volkssturm with Panzerfausts because they had no idea what the fuck it was.		Two other facts stand out as utter hilarity: More Jagdtigers were lost to breakdown and mechanical issues than they were combat losses, and one Jagdtiger was attacked, and killed, by Volkssturm with Panzerfausts because they had no idea what the fuck it was.

	{{Template:German Forces in Flames of War}}		{{Template:German Forces in Flames of War}}

1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmings: /* IRL */

2022-10-10T18:48:33Z

IRL

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:48, 10 October 2022
Line 16:		Line 16:
	In reality, the 128mm cannon added an absurd amount of weight to a chassis that was already straining the engine to a breaking point, decreasing the mechanical reliability of the already dubiously reliable Tiger II. Worse than that, it was reported by Otto Carius that the gun would often have to be recalibrated after driving on rough terrain, and just to fire the gun in combat, some poor dude had to get out of the tank and unlock the gun. Combine this with the fact that it kept the absurd complexity of Tigers and very poorly trained late war German tank crews, and you have a perfect way to lose valuable assets pointlessly.		In reality, the 128mm cannon added an absurd amount of weight to a chassis that was already straining the engine to a breaking point, decreasing the mechanical reliability of the already dubiously reliable Tiger II. Worse than that, it was reported by Otto Carius that the gun would often have to be recalibrated after driving on rough terrain, and just to fire the gun in combat, some poor dude had to get out of the tank and unlock the gun. Combine this with the fact that it kept the absurd complexity of Tigers and very poorly trained late war German tank crews, and you have a perfect way to lose valuable assets pointlessly.

	Even though the gun was reported to have shot through a house and killed an American tank, this is not an accomplishment due to the fact that the Sherman chassis didn't really stand a chance against most late war German tanks. Combined with its high ~~muzzel~~ flash and the cannon being so powerful that it blinded the loaders (yes, loader, but PLURAL), it could fire exactly once, then maybe breakdown trying to move 2 feet before being abandoned. Even the much-maligned Elefant was a more effective weapon than the Jagdtiger.		Even though the gun was reported to have shot through a house and killed an American tank, this is not an accomplishment due to the fact that the Sherman chassis didn't really stand a chance against most late war German tanks. Combined with its high muzzle flash and the cannon being so powerful that it blinded the loaders (yes, loader, but PLURAL), it could fire exactly once, then maybe breakdown trying to move 2 feet before being abandoned. Even the much-maligned Elefant was a more effective weapon than the Jagdtiger.

	Two other facts stand out as utter hilarity: More Jagdtigers were lost to breakdown and mechanical issues than they were combat losses, and one Jagdtiger was attacked by Volkssturm with Panzerfausts because they had no idea what the fuck it was.		Two other facts stand out as utter hilarity: More Jagdtigers were lost to breakdown and mechanical issues than they were combat losses, and one Jagdtiger was attacked by Volkssturm with Panzerfausts because they had no idea what the fuck it was.

	{{Template:German Forces in Flames of War}}		{{Template:German Forces in Flames of War}}

1d4chan>Nubnuber at 23:51, 26 June 2022

2022-06-26T23:51:30Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:51, 26 June 2022
Line 2:		Line 2:
	{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}		{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}
	[[File:Jagdtiger Mini.jpg\|thumb\|The Siberian to the [[Tiger II\|Tiger II's]] Bengal.]]		[[File:Jagdtiger Mini.jpg\|thumb\|The Siberian to the [[Tiger II\|Tiger II's]] Bengal.]]
	The Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B, more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.		The '''Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B''', more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.

	==Late War==		==Late War==

1d4chan>Rocko1345 at 18:56, 26 June 2022

2022-06-26T18:56:30Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:56, 26 June 2022
Line 1:		Line 1:
	{{Fail}}		{{Fail}}
	{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}		{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}
	[[File:~~1280px-~~Jagdtiger ~~at Aberdeen proving grounds 2008~~.jpg\|thumb\| ~~I IDENTIFY AS SKINNY!~~]]		[[File:Jagdtiger Mini.jpg\|thumb\|The Siberian to the [[Tiger II\|Tiger II's]] Bengal.]]
	The Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B, more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.		The Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B, more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.

Line 7:		Line 7:

	==IRL==		==IRL==
			[[File:1280px-Jagdtiger at Aberdeen proving grounds 2008.jpg\|thumb\| I IDENTIFY AS SKINNY!]]
	The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.		The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.

1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmings at 04:39, 26 June 2022

2022-06-26T04:39:56Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 04:39, 26 June 2022
Line 1:		Line 1:
	{{Fail}}		{{Fail}}
	{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}		{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}
			[[File:1280px-Jagdtiger at Aberdeen proving grounds 2008.jpg\|thumb\| I IDENTIFY AS SKINNY!]]
	The Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B, more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.		The Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B, more commonly known as the '''Jagdtiger''', was the heaviest and most powerful Tank Destroyer of WWII. It was also an even bigger pile of fail than the [[Elefant]], taking everything wrong with the Elefant and dialing them up to 11.

47.5.179.247 at 19:19, 25 June 2022

2022-06-25T19:19:04Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:19, 25 June 2022
Line 1:		Line 1:
			{{Fail}}
	{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}		{{topquote\|That such a monstrosity had to be constructed in the final phase of the war - at all times!\|Tiger Ace Otto Carius on the Jagdtiger}}

2A02:1811:3B7F:7E00:51A4:8059:43A6:613A: /* IRL */

2022-03-04T16:30:53Z

IRL

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:30, 4 March 2022
Line 8:		Line 8:
	The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.		The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.

	In 1942, German high command and old Adolf very much wanted [[awesome\|a 128 mm cannon that could function mainly as artillery but also as direct-firing bunker-buster gun should the need arise, and that was 'light enough' to be motorized]]. This was... pretty darn ambitious for the technology at the time, but eventually Krupp delivered a workable design. At that point, the rest of the designers were faced with a damn problem: sure, it was 'light enough', but the ''Sturmkanöne 12.8cm'' was still so big and so heavy the only chassis ~~who~~ reasonably could take it was ~~that of~~ the Tiger II chassis ~~and~~ the idea of having it elevate as an artillery gun was dropped pretty quickly for being too complex, leaving only the direct-fire option. Now, an astute reader may remember that the Tiger II was, for all its many other faults, pretty much impossible to kill efficiently and quite capable of dishing out copious amounts of hurt with its ''acht-acht''. Therefore, it stands to reason that the Jagdtiger would be pretty epic, right?		In 1942, German high command and old Adolf very much wanted [[awesome\|a 128 mm cannon that could function mainly as artillery but also as direct-firing bunker-buster gun should the need arise, and that was 'light enough' to be motorized]]. This was... pretty darn ambitious for the technology at the time, but eventually Krupp delivered a workable design. At that point, the rest of the designers were faced with a damn problem: sure, it was 'light enough', but the ''Sturmkanöne 12.8cm'' was still so big and so heavy the only chassis that reasonably could take it onboard was the Tiger II chassis. And even then, the idea of having it elevate as an artillery gun was dropped pretty quickly for being too complex, leaving only the direct-fire option. Now, an astute reader may remember that the Tiger II was, for all its many other faults, pretty much impossible to kill efficiently and quite capable of dishing out copious amounts of hurt with its ''acht-acht''. Therefore, it stands to reason that the Jagdtiger would be pretty epic, right?

	Good one.		Good one.

2A02:A03F:C17D:A400:242F:AD9C:AED4:B355: Small correction here: gun came before the chassis.

2022-01-26T11:36:46Z

Small correction here: gun came before the chassis.

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:36, 26 January 2022
Line 8:		Line 8:
	The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.		The Jagdtiger was a design meant to emulate successful tank destroyer designs that had been used throughout the war: Take the base chassis of an existing tank, shove a fuckoff hueg gun into it, add extra armor, and proceed to let it utterly rape anything that got within 2 kilometers of it, with [[Elefant\|mostly]] great success.

	In 1942, German high command and old Adolf very much wanted a 128 mm cannon ~~mounted on~~ a ~~tank~~. ~~Why in god~~'~~s name anyone thought this was necessary is known only to them~~, but the ~~vehicle~~ was ~~to be built out~~ of the Tiger II chassis. Now, an astute reader may remember that the Tiger II was, for all its faults, ~~still~~ pretty much impossible to kill efficiently. Therefore, it stands to reason that the Jagdtiger would be pretty epic, right?		In 1942, German high command and old Adolf very much wanted [[awesome\|a 128 mm cannon that could function mainly as artillery but also as direct-firing bunker-buster gun should the need arise, and that was 'light enough' to be motorized]]. This was... pretty darn ambitious for the technology at the time, but eventually Krupp delivered a workable design. At that point, the rest of the designers were faced with a damn problem: sure, it was 'light enough', but the ''Sturmkanöne 12.8cm'' was still so big and so heavy the only chassis who reasonably could take it was that of the Tiger II chassis and the idea of having it elevate as an artillery gun was dropped pretty quickly for being too complex, leaving only the direct-fire option. Now, an astute reader may remember that the Tiger II was, for all its many other faults, pretty much impossible to kill efficiently and quite capable of dishing out copious amounts of hurt with its ''acht-acht''. Therefore, it stands to reason that the Jagdtiger would be pretty epic, right?

	Good one.		Good one.