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	* '''Heisei Era''' ; Sometimes considered the best era. So one day, Toho was like "Man, we did a lot of shitty movies. So how about we crank the serious juice to never-seen-before levels and create an actual universe and continuity?". And they did just that. Starting with Godzilla 1985, the Heisei era redifined the Kaiju genre by doubling down on the special effects and catching up with the times. This time the monsters were actually monstrous and gave 0 shits about Humanity. Turned out that it worked for them, because having Godzilla being the friend and ally of humanity wasn't much of a good idea. All things considered. This time, Toho started a brand new cinematic universe where each film was a direct sequel to the previous one, or loosely connected to one another if they were spin-offs. This is where less new Kaijus were created and more ancient ones got a serious amount of polish. Some of the goofiest were event outright scrapped due to how ridiculous they looked; [[Squatted\|Hedorah, the literally TRESH monster, Gigan, the chicken-raptor thing from outer-outer space, King Caesar, the guy who needed a fucking opera to be summoned, etc.]] All of them disappeared. But then you have new ones introduced as well; [[Nurgle\|Motherfucking Biollante, the plant monster who could make Nurgle run for his life]], [[SPESS MEHREENS\|SPESS GODZILLA, WHO IS JUST GODZILLA FROM SPESS]], and none other than the Devil himself; Destroyah! [[Meme\|Yeah, that's his actual name: DESU-TORO-YAH!]]. On the Godzilla side of things, they capped off the era by killing the original Big G and finally saying "The End". Tough shit, but Toho felt like they had to move on from the King of the Monsters for good before they started to fuck shit up again like they did during the Showa era.		* '''Heisei Era''' ; Sometimes considered the best era. So one day, Toho was like "Man, we did a lot of shitty movies. So how about we crank the serious juice to never-seen-before levels and create an actual universe and continuity?". And they did just that. Starting with Godzilla 1985, the Heisei era redifined the Kaiju genre by doubling down on the special effects and catching up with the times. This time the monsters were actually monstrous and gave 0 shits about Humanity. Turned out that it worked for them, because having Godzilla being the friend and ally of humanity wasn't much of a good idea. All things considered. This time, Toho started a brand new cinematic universe where each film was a direct sequel to the previous one, or loosely connected to one another if they were spin-offs. This is where less new Kaijus were created and more ancient ones got a serious amount of polish. Some of the goofiest were event outright scrapped due to how ridiculous they looked; [[Squatted\|Hedorah, the literally TRESH monster, Gigan, the chicken-raptor thing from outer-outer space, King Caesar, the guy who needed a fucking opera to be summoned, etc.]] All of them disappeared. But then you have new ones introduced as well; [[Nurgle\|Motherfucking Biollante, the plant monster who could make Nurgle run for his life]], [[SPESS MEHREENS\|SPESS GODZILLA, WHO IS JUST GODZILLA FROM SPESS]], and none other than the Devil himself; Destroyah! [[Meme\|Yeah, that's his actual name: DESU-TORO-YAH!]]. On the Godzilla side of things, they capped off the era by killing the original Big G and finally saying "The End". Tough shit, but Toho felt like they had to move on from the King of the Monsters for good before they started to fuck shit up again like they did during the Showa era.
	* '''Millenium Era''': So, the Americans really, really, really fucked up your baby monster bad. What do you do? Well, you enter the new Millenium by continuing the Heisei Saga by making Godzilla Junior the main protag! Around this time, Godzilla was pretty much the only one still in the Kaiju ring. Mothra had a few films here and there and Gamera definetely tried to catch up to his rival, but to not avail. Even Mothra struggled, so much so that she had to resort to go back to featuring in his films to even stay relevant. That isn't to say the Millenium films of the Godzi franchise were good. Well, they were to some extent, but let's say that the entire era is pure [[Skub\|Skub material]]. Toho to shove as much shit as possible, even coming to the point of trying to capture the original spirit of the first film while still retaining the power-crazed style of the new movies with GMK. Arguably one of the best movies, but one that is hardly mentionned outside of discussions surrounding the Millenium era.		* '''Millenium Era''': So, the Americans really, really, really fucked up your baby monster bad. What do you do? Well, you enter the new Millenium by continuing the Heisei Saga by making Godzilla Junior the main protag! Around this time, Godzilla was pretty much the only one still in the Kaiju ring. Mothra had a few films here and there and Gamera definetely tried to catch up to his rival, but to not avail. Even Mothra struggled, so much so that she had to resort to go back to featuring in his films to even stay relevant. That isn't to say the Millenium films of the Godzi franchise were good. Well, they were to some extent, but let's say that the entire era is pure [[Skub\|Skub material]]. Toho to shove as much shit as possible, even coming to the point of trying to capture the original spirit of the first film while still retaining the power-crazed style of the new movies with GMK. Arguably one of the best movies, but one that is hardly mentionned outside of discussions surrounding the Millenium era.
	* '''~~Shin~~ Era''': So the Americans really, really, really, really fucking suck at getting Godzilla right, so you get the guy from [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]] to set things right. So far, only a few films came out. And there's only one major feature. Hard to tell now if Kaijus are going to get back into a popular fenzy again. Only time will tell. What's for sure though is that now Horror and social commentary are back on the menu, and it's gonna get downright eldritch from now on.		* '''Reiwa Era''': So the Americans really, really, really, really fucking suck at getting Godzilla right, so you get the guy from [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]] to set things right. So far, only a few films came out. And there's only one major feature. Hard to tell now if Kaijus are going to get back into a popular fenzy again. Only time will tell. What's for sure though is that now Horror and social commentary are back on the menu, and it's gonna get downright eldritch from now on.

	So, what about other kaiju? Well, most of them got their chance to shine in the Showa era, and frankly almost none of them really had the chops to pull it off. The most well known are Mothra, Gamera and Rodan; of those three, Mothra and Gamera got the best deal, whilst Rodan at least managed to get his own movie and then get pulled into the Godzillaverse as a pretty important 2nd-tier monster. There were all kinds of individual kaiju movies in the Showa era, such as Varan (about a giant flying lizard that lives in a lake), Dogora (a carbon-eating alien jellyfish... this one is exceptionally bad, because the directors really wanted to do a goofy comedy-crime flick and just threw Dogora in as a background element), two Frankenstein Kaiju films, and Yog (a bodiless alien possesses sea animals and mutates them into kaiju), but they never made the real impact.		So, what about other kaiju? Well, most of them got their chance to shine in the Showa era, and frankly almost none of them really had the chops to pull it off. The most well known are Mothra, Gamera and Rodan; of those three, Mothra and Gamera got the best deal, whilst Rodan at least managed to get his own movie and then get pulled into the Godzillaverse as a pretty important 2nd-tier monster. There were all kinds of individual kaiju movies in the Showa era, such as Varan (about a giant flying lizard that lives in a lake), Dogora (a carbon-eating alien jellyfish... this one is exceptionally bad, because the directors really wanted to do a goofy comedy-crime flick and just threw Dogora in as a background element), two Frankenstein Kaiju films, and Yog (a bodiless alien possesses sea animals and mutates them into kaiju), but they never made the real impact.

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	The other notable source of kaiju-related /tg/ content is, ironically, [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. Back in the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], not only was the adventure module [[WG6: Isle of the Ape]] was basically "D&D does King Kong", but there was also a monster called the "Gargantua", which was basically a thinly veiled kaiju - the sample picture of a "Reptilian Gargantua" in the Monstrous Manual even looks like a knock-off Godzilla. 3e saw the Gargantuas return in the page of [[Dragon Magazine]] #289, where [[Paizo]] provided rules for creating and battling your own kaiju in 3e. They followed this up when they split off to form [[Pathfinder]], creating the Kaiju monster template, officially creating a "Monster Island" for [[Golarion]], and inventing their own set of individual kaiju.		The other notable source of kaiju-related /tg/ content is, ironically, [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. Back in the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], not only was the adventure module [[WG6: Isle of the Ape]] was basically "D&D does King Kong", but there was also a monster called the "Gargantua", which was basically a thinly veiled kaiju - the sample picture of a "Reptilian Gargantua" in the Monstrous Manual even looks like a knock-off Godzilla. 3e saw the Gargantuas return in the page of [[Dragon Magazine]] #289, where [[Paizo]] provided rules for creating and battling your own kaiju in 3e. They followed this up when they split off to form [[Pathfinder]], creating the Kaiju monster template, officially creating a "Monster Island" for [[Golarion]], and inventing their own set of individual kaiju.

	There is also Splicers, by Palladium Books( the same authors of Rifts), which uses the War Mounts, creatures who acts as partners for some classes and are almost completely customizable by the players. While not every War Mounts is Kaijuu sized, most of them still have an impressive arsenal of organic weapons before said customization and terryfing ~~strenght~~ and endurance, even by the standards of the Megaverse		There is also Splicers, by Palladium Books( the same authors of Rifts), which uses the War Mounts, creatures who acts as partners for some classes and are almost completely customizable by the players. While not every War Mounts is Kaijuu sized, most of them still have an impressive arsenal of organic weapons before said customization and terryfing strength and endurance, even by the standards of the Megaverse

			[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]] has an entire archetype dedicated to making your opponent fight you with giant monsters aptly named, [[Derp\|Kaiju]], with a lot of Kaiju effects revolving around making sure nothing, spells, traps, and other monsters, etc, interfere with your big monster fight.

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	When it comes to featuring kaiju in tabletop gaming, the first things that we ''have'' to talk about is [[Monsterpocalypse]], a miniatures-based war game in which you get to be the star of your own kaiju movie, controlling all manner of giant monsters, giant [[mecha]], and other things related to the genre, like [[ninja]]s that can grow into kaiju-sized battlers.		When it comes to featuring kaiju in tabletop gaming, the first things that we ''have'' to talk about is [[Monsterpocalypse]], a miniatures-based war game in which you get to be the star of your own kaiju movie, controlling all manner of giant monsters, giant [[mecha]], and other things related to the genre, like [[ninja]]s that can grow into kaiju-sized battlers.

	The other notable source of kaiju-related /tg/ content is, ironically, [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. Back in the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], not only was the adventure module [[WG6: Isle of the Ape]] was basically "D&D does King Kong", but there was also a monster called the "Gargantua", which was basically a thinly veiled kaiju - the sample picture of a "Reptilian Gargantua" in the Monstrous Manual even looks like a knock-off Godzilla. 3e saw the Gargantuas return in the page of [[Dragon Magazine]], where [[Paizo]] provided rules for creating and battling your own kaiju in 3e. They followed this up when they split off to form [[Pathfinder]], creating the Kaiju monster template, officially creating a "Monster Island" for [[Golarion]], and inventing their own set of individual kaiju.		The other notable source of kaiju-related /tg/ content is, ironically, [[Dungeons & Dragons]]. Back in the days of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], not only was the adventure module [[WG6: Isle of the Ape]] was basically "D&D does King Kong", but there was also a monster called the "Gargantua", which was basically a thinly veiled kaiju - the sample picture of a "Reptilian Gargantua" in the Monstrous Manual even looks like a knock-off Godzilla. 3e saw the Gargantuas return in the page of [[Dragon Magazine]] #289, where [[Paizo]] provided rules for creating and battling your own kaiju in 3e. They followed this up when they split off to form [[Pathfinder]], creating the Kaiju monster template, officially creating a "Monster Island" for [[Golarion]], and inventing their own set of individual kaiju.

	There is also Splicers, by Palladium Books( the same authors of Rifts), which uses the War Mounts, creatures who acts as partners for some classes and are almost completely customizable by the players. While not every War Mounts is Kaijuu sized, most of them still have an impressive arsenal of organic weapons before said customization and terryfing strenght and endurance, even by the standards of the Megaverse		There is also Splicers, by Palladium Books( the same authors of Rifts), which uses the War Mounts, creatures who acts as partners for some classes and are almost completely customizable by the players. While not every War Mounts is Kaijuu sized, most of them still have an impressive arsenal of organic weapons before said customization and terryfing strenght and endurance, even by the standards of the Megaverse

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	* '''Rodan:''' An oversized pteranodon who breathes uranium fire. Usually a menace because it can fly around whereas Godzilla can only lumber around and try to catch up.		* '''Rodan:''' An oversized pteranodon who breathes uranium fire. Usually a menace because it can fly around whereas Godzilla can only lumber around and try to catch up.
	* '''Anguirus:''' Spiky-backed turtle dinosaur thing that became Godzilla's best buddy during the Showa era.		* '''Anguirus:''' Spiky-backed turtle dinosaur thing that became Godzilla's best buddy during the Showa era.
	* '''King Gidorah:''' Another of Godzilla's most famous adversaries and the most consistent, a giant three-headed golden dragon from outer space who is claimed king of the Kaijus despite being more of a mind-controlled slave. Seriously, he's usually under the control of some invading alien race in ~~any~~ film he appears in.		* '''King Gidorah:''' Another of Godzilla's most famous adversaries and the most consistent, a giant three-headed golden dragon from outer space who is claimed king of the Kaijus despite being more of a mind-controlled slave. Seriously, he's usually under the control of some invading alien race in most film he appears in. In the anime trilogy, trough, he's turned into a lovecraftian and ethereal monstruosity which said aliens worship, almost managing to get rid of good of Godzilla, here in his most gigantic form.
	* '''Frankenstein:''' Yes, seriously, they made a kaiju movie out of Frankenstein's monster. During World War II, the [[Nazi]]s send the immortal heart of Frankenstein's Monster to their Japanese lab to be studied for a super-soldier program, but the lab is in Hiroshima and gets nuked. The radiation causes Frankenstein's heart to regenerate into a deformed humanoid who then grows into a building sized giant. He's actually not the bad guy in this movie; the real killer is a burrowing laser-horned dinosaur-thing called Barugon. He is killed by being dragged into the sea by a giant octopus. Followed by a sequel called "The War of the Gargantuas", where Frankenstein's remains regenerate into two new humanoid kaiju; a peaceful land-dweller and a man-eatings sea-dweller. These brothers ultimately fight to the death of what to do with humanity.		* '''Frankenstein:''' Yes, seriously, they made a kaiju movie out of Frankenstein's monster. During World War II, the [[Nazi]]s send the immortal heart of Frankenstein's Monster to their Japanese lab to be studied for a super-soldier program, but the lab is in Hiroshima and gets nuked. The radiation causes Frankenstein's heart to regenerate into a deformed humanoid who then grows into a building sized giant. He's actually not the bad guy in this movie; the real killer is a burrowing laser-horned dinosaur-thing called Barugon. He is killed by being dragged into the sea by a giant octopus. Followed by a sequel called "The War of the Gargantuas", where Frankenstein's remains regenerate into two new humanoid kaiju; a peaceful land-dweller and a man-eatings sea-dweller. These brothers ultimately fight to the death of what to do with humanity.
	* '''Gigan:''' A cyclopean [[cyborg]] space [[dinosaur]] with a chainsaw in its belly, a laser eye and bladed hooks for hands. Like Gidorah, he's a popular bruiser for invading aliens to back up their forces.		* '''Gigan:''' A cyclopean [[cyborg]] space [[dinosaur]] with a chainsaw in its belly, a laser eye and bladed hooks for hands. Like Gidorah, he's a popular bruiser for invading aliens to back up their forces.

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	* '''Godzilla:''' THE king of the Kaijus, as far as anyone is concerned, a towering reptilian monstrosity that breathes atomic fire. Has had quite a few changes in portrayal over the years, shifting from a symbolic terror to a rampaging force of nature to an unwitting guardian of the Earth.		* '''Godzilla:''' THE king of the Kaijus, as far as anyone is concerned, a towering reptilian monstrosity that breathes atomic fire. Has had quite a few changes in portrayal over the years, shifting from a symbolic terror to a rampaging force of nature to an unwitting guardian of the Earth.
	** '''Burning Godzilla''': Godzilla's [[Anime\|Super Sayian]] form. Swapping his usual blue for a fiery reddish-orange (duh), this form is achieved by further exposure to nuclear energy (or bullshit Mothra powers when it made its Western movie series debut). In its original appearance, this form was not stable and in fact threatened to have Godzilla's nuclear furnace of a heart go critical and [[Exterminatus\|create an apocalyptic explosion]], which was only prevented by having Destoroyah ([[Not as planned\|which was born of mutation caused by the Oxygen Destroyer of the original film]]) kill the King and then having the JSDF use special cooling weapons to bring the remnant nuclear energy under control.		** '''Burning Godzilla''': Godzilla's [[Anime\|Super Sayian]] form. Swapping his usual blue for a fiery reddish-orange (duh), this form is achieved by further exposure to nuclear energy (or, partially, bullshit Mothra powers when it made its Western movie series debut). In its original appearance, this form was not stable and in fact threatened to have Godzilla's nuclear furnace of a heart go critical and [[Exterminatus\|create an apocalyptic explosion]], which was only prevented by having Destoroyah ([[Not as planned\|which was born of mutation caused by the Oxygen Destroyer of the original film]]) kill the King and then having the JSDF use special cooling weapons to bring the remnant nuclear energy under control.
	** '''Mechagodzilla:''' A giant robotic copy of Big G created by the EDF as a defensive measure if Godzilla goes uncontrollable. Armed to the teeth to take anything down, though being a machine lends it some serious limitations.		** '''Mechagodzilla:''' A giant robotic copy of Big G created by the EDF as a defensive measure if Godzilla goes uncontrollable. Armed to the teeth to take anything down, though being a machine lends it some serious limitations.
	** '''SpaceGodzilla:''' A giant crystal [[Indrick Boreale\|FROM SPEHSS]] that absorbed some of Godzilla's DNA. Those crystals allow it to be more of a threat at range, with electrical disturbances and firing lasers.		** '''SpaceGodzilla:''' A giant crystal [[Indrick Boreale\|FROM SPEHSS]] that absorbed some of Godzilla's DNA. Those crystals allow it to be more of a threat at range, with electrical disturbances and firing lasers.