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	It should also be noted the "military katanas" issued for officers at this time weren't too far from a decorative sword given an edge and point, used more for symbolism, scaring their own soldiers, and executions than any practical use in combat.		It should also be noted the "military katanas" issued for officers at this time weren't too far from a decorative sword given an edge and point, used more for symbolism, scaring their own soldiers, and executions than any practical use in combat.

	Furthermore, the best katanas at that time were carved from railroad tracks since the fucking Chinese were blowing up '''every—single—thing''' that the Japanese were thought to get their short, grubby little hands on. These should give you a nice idea of the overall quality of said weapons (read: not very high). Further hilarity includes Chinese Dadao swords (which are like giant meat-cleavers/sabers) LOLstopping Japanese officers with katanas, and sometimes even breaking the damn katana in the process (to further give you the clue on hilarity, the Dadao itself was made from railroad tracks and it was mass produced too, meaning large amounts of Chinese soldiers and militias were equipped with one). That's not even going into the fact that Imperial Japan had the most shitty weapons compared to every other Axis force and even Allied nations.		Furthermore, the best katanas at that time were carved from railroad tracks since the fucking Chinese were blowing up '''every—single—thing''' that the Japanese were thought to get their short, grubby little hands on. These should give you a nice idea of the overall quality of said weapons (read: not very high). Further hilarity includes Chinese Dadao swords (which are like giant meat-cleavers/sabers) LOLstopping Japanese officers with katanas, and sometimes even breaking the damn katana in the process (to further give you the clue on hilarity, the Dadao itself was made from railroad tracks and it was mass produced too, meaning large amounts of Chinese soldiers and militias were equipped with one). That's not even going into the fact that Imperial Japan had the most shitty weapons compared to every other Axis force and even Allied nations. Only the Italians had debatably worse gear than the Japanese.

	'''''<blockquote>So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system.</blockquote>'''''		'''''<blockquote>So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system.</blockquote>'''''

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	Note: the above complaint was a direct result of wasting time on the abomination that is 4th edition.		Note: the above complaint was a direct result of wasting time on the abomination that is 4th edition.


			== Katanas are underpowered in 5e ==
			That's it. I'm sick of all this "Reflavored Longsword" bullshit that's going on in the 5e system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
			I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,550,000 Yen (that's about $19,500) and have been practicing with it for almost 25 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
			Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
			Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
			Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
			So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the 5e system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

			1d12 slashing, versatile (2d8), finesse, counts as magical.

			Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think? I mean, I know 5e weapons are bland and have no variety, but what can I say?

			tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in 5e, see my new stat block.


	== Katanas are underpowered in Traveller ==		== Katanas are underpowered in Traveller ==

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	What's more, up until the late 19th and early 20th century, the majority of Japanese "invasions of the mainland" were not actually invasions at all; they were acts of piracy. While they frequently came out the victors in the sorts of quick-and-dirty skirmishing that are the hallmarks of pirate raids, they very rarely fought anything that could actually be called a WAR against anyone from the mainland.		What's more, up until the late 19th and early 20th century, the majority of Japanese "invasions of the mainland" were not actually invasions at all; they were acts of piracy. While they frequently came out the victors in the sorts of quick-and-dirty skirmishing that are the hallmarks of pirate raids, they very rarely fought anything that could actually be called a WAR against anyone from the mainland.

	Plus few people know that ever since their first appearance, samurai actually are shown using huge ass bows from horseback more often than fighting up close, and if they did they often resorted to naginata (halberds) or yari (spears), with the katana being a weapon of last resort. Aside from a few outliers like the Shimazu of the Sengoku era, the vast majority of samurai considered the katana, aside from its spiritual focus, to be just another weapon of war, and frequently not the correct tool for the task at hand. So much for [[weeaboo\|katana + samurai fanwank]].		Plus few people know that ever since their first appearance, samurai actually are shown using huge ass bows from horseback more often than fighting up close, and if they did they often resorted to naginata (halberds) or yari (spears), with the katana being a weapon of last resort, similarly to how many European and Middle Eastern armored cavalry used lances more frequently than swords. Aside from a few outliers like the Shimazu of the Sengoku era, the vast majority of samurai considered the katana, aside from its spiritual focus, to be just another weapon of war, and frequently not the correct tool for the task at hand. So much for [[weeaboo\|katana + samurai fanwank]].

	For the samurai the katana was more of a spiritual weapon stemming from Buddhist principles: by mastering the sword one masters oneself. This creates an interesting comparison between how weapons in the West and in Japan are seen: for a knight his arming sword was but a tool, but for a samurai a katana was an extension of the self. This is mostly how it works in Japan, though: the nation is not a good example to represent all of Asia or even East Asia. Japan is as the island weirdos as the British are among European countries. Japan is a special case in Asia where militants were always in power (Shogunates). In the mainland, either money or scholarliness earned you a position in society (Imperial Examinations), as it should; a man worshiping a tool that kills would easily have been seen as a barbarous dumbass or bandit. Carrying a sword around would get you arrested for "militant attempt to raise arms to overthrow the authority" just like you would also be today if you were walking around pointing a gun at random people without provocation. And after Japan was united and the feudal age ended in the 16th century, peace-time samurai officials became more and more like modern-day office workers; they still carried at least wooden swords for signs of their office.		For the samurai the katana was more of a spiritual weapon stemming from Buddhist principles: by mastering the sword one masters oneself. This creates an interesting comparison between how weapons in the West and in Japan are seen: for a knight his arming sword was but a tool, but for a samurai a katana was an extension of the self. This is mostly how it works in Japan, though: the nation is not a good example to represent all of Asia or even East Asia. Japan is as the island weirdos as the British are among European countries. Japan is a special case in Asia where militants were always in power (Shogunates). In the mainland, either money or scholarliness earned you a position in society (Imperial Examinations), as it should; a man worshiping a tool that kills would easily have been seen as a barbarous dumbass or bandit. Carrying a sword around would get you arrested for "militant attempt to raise arms to overthrow the authority" just like you would also be today if you were walking around pointing a gun at random people without provocation. And after Japan was united and the feudal age ended in the 16th century, peace-time samurai officials became more and more like modern-day office workers; they still carried at least wooden swords for signs of their office.

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	tl;dr = V6 engines need to be faster in d20, see my new stat block.		tl;dr = V6 engines need to be faster in d20, see my new stat block.


			= Khan is underpowered in Heritage To The Future =
			That's it. I'm sick of all this "Spinny Funny" bullshit that's going on in the HFTF community right now. Khan deserves much better than this. Much, much better than this. I should know what I'm talking about. Khan himself discovered a genuine katana in Egypt for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and has been practicing with it for almost 5 minutes now. He can even shave jaws clean off with his sword.

			Anubis spent years outliving his original user and possessed up to a million people to produce the greatest swordsmen known to mankind.
			Khan's pokes and jump-ins are thrice as speedy as Chaka’s and thrice as reliable for that matter too. Any damage output a Black Polnareff can do, Khan can do better. I'm pretty sure Khan could easily zero-to-death a Pet Shop even without lows.
			Ever wonder why none of the characters bothered fighting Khan in the story mode? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Kahn and his stand of destruction. Even in the manga, Jotaro targeted the Anubis sword first because Khan's power was feared and respected.

			So what am I saying? Khan is simply the best fighting game character that Za Warudo has ever seen, and thus, requires better buffs in the game.

			tl;dr = Khan needs to be stronger in HFTF.

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