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	==Pathfinder 2e==		==Pathfinder 2e==
			[[File:Yoon 2e.PNG\|thumb\|right\|300px\|(WIP) Yoon, the 2E iconic Kineticist. Now not a [[Loli]]]]

	In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for [[Pathfinder Second Edition\|Pathfinder 2e]].		In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for [[Pathfinder Second Edition\|Pathfinder 2e]].

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Pathfinder 2e */

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	In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for [[Pathfinder Second Edition\|Pathfinder 2e]].		In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for [[Pathfinder Second Edition\|Pathfinder 2e]].

	In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many. The feats mentioned below grant new elemental attacks for each element. As ever, they have their classic Gather Energy and Elemental Blast attacks (now classified under unarmed attacks and freely able to swap between melee and ranged modes), though a later class ability gives them the ability to extract elemental energies from their enemies.		In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many. The feats mentioned below grant new elemental attacks for each element. As ever, they have their classic Gather Energy and Elemental Blast attacks (now classified under unarmed attacks and freely able to swap between melee and ranged modes), though a later class ability gives them the ability to extract elemental energies from their enemies. In any case, this gathered energy is now how you use your powers. In place of Burn or converting it to Focus Points, this energy is what fuels your powers and some of them exhaust it to activate.

	Uniquely, the Kineticist's Inner Gate feature is a measure of how dedicated they are to certain elements as opposed to 1E's ability to just pick elemental foci as they leveled up.		Uniquely, the Kineticist's Inner Gate feature is a measure of how dedicated they are to certain elements as opposed to 1E's ability to just pick elemental foci as they leveled up.
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	The biggest flaw (or bonus) that one can see for the Kineticist is the fact that you have an absurd '''FUCKTON''' of feats, leading to some serious choice paralysis. Not only do you have your default class feats, but you also have feats for each and every element. While Dedicated and Dual Gates aren't the most concerned about it, Universal Gates are open to the entire smorgasbord.		The biggest flaw (or bonus) that one can see for the Kineticist is the fact that you have an absurd '''FUCKTON''' of feats, leading to some serious choice paralysis. Not only do you have your default class feats, but you also have feats for each and every element. While Dedicated and Dual Gates aren't the most concerned about it, Universal Gates are open to the entire smorgasbord.

			The other and more intentional flaw is the Kineticist's limited defense. While some elements do provide some way to mitigate damage and the class has a decent HP pool, their AC will be rather weak with proficiency in only light armor. Of course, a kineticist who relies on ranged blasts can handle that fairly easily (and one feat can slap Agile onto their melee blasts), but a Strength build will need to be more careful with their stat spread.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

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	*The Universal Gate allows the Kineticist to draw upon all elements, but they only get 1 feat. However, they can change this feat during their daily preparations.		*The Universal Gate allows the Kineticist to draw upon all elements, but they only get 1 feat. However, they can change this feat during their daily preparations.

	The biggest flaw that one can see for the Kineticist is the fact that you have an absurd '''FUCKTON''' of feats, leading to some serious choice paralysis. Not only do you have your default class feats, but you also have feats for each and every element. While Dedicated and Dual Gates aren't the most concerned about it, ~~but~~ Universal Gates are open to the entire smorgasbord.		The biggest flaw (or bonus) that one can see for the Kineticist is the fact that you have an absurd '''FUCKTON''' of feats, leading to some serious choice paralysis. Not only do you have your default class feats, but you also have feats for each and every element. While Dedicated and Dual Gates aren't the most concerned about it, Universal Gates are open to the entire smorgasbord.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Pathfinder 2e */

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	*The Dual Gate allows the Kineticist to have two elements to draw from, and they choose 1 feat for each element.		*The Dual Gate allows the Kineticist to have two elements to draw from, and they choose 1 feat for each element.
	*The Universal Gate allows the Kineticist to draw upon all elements, but they only get 1 feat. However, they can change this feat during their daily preparations.		*The Universal Gate allows the Kineticist to draw upon all elements, but they only get 1 feat. However, they can change this feat during their daily preparations.

			The biggest flaw that one can see for the Kineticist is the fact that you have an absurd '''FUCKTON''' of feats, leading to some serious choice paralysis. Not only do you have your default class feats, but you also have feats for each and every element. While Dedicated and Dual Gates aren't the most concerned about it, but Universal Gates are open to the entire smorgasbord.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva at 22:20, 8 August 2022

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	[[File:Yoon.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|Yoon, the iconic Kineticist]]		[[File:Yoon.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|Yoon, the 1E iconic Kineticist]]
	The '''Kineticist''' is a fairly odd class to come out of [[Pathfinder]]'s ''Occult Adventures'' sourcebook. What could have been like a mixture of Carrie, Firestarter, and several characters that mostly use ESP to make people die in gruesome and horrifying ways, ended up translating into something resembling [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]] with virtually no visible ties to the occult in a book all about it. It's not particularly powerful/flexible, a bit confusing and not that well supported by first party materials (the official reason is that abilities for them aren't space efficient so they focus on something a greater percentage of characters will use) but not unplayable once you figure it out. It has the misfortune of being the only other class in the game besides [[Monk]] to use 1d6x10 GP (35 average) for starting gold, even though unlike Monk they actually need to buy armor. The design work and balance for Kineticist is shaky enough they can vary wildly in [[Tier System\|tier]] depending on their element: While Aether is reasonably versatile and has excellent skillmonkey ability that let it function at Tier 3 (though one of the least powerful ones), some elements are so undersupported or singularly focused they can be tier 5.		The '''Kineticist''' is a fairly odd class to come out of [[Pathfinder]]'s ''Occult Adventures'' sourcebook. What could have been like a mixture of Carrie, Firestarter, and several characters that mostly use ESP to make people die in gruesome and horrifying ways, ended up translating into something resembling [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]] with virtually no visible ties to the occult in a book all about it. It's not particularly powerful/flexible, a bit confusing and not that well supported by first party materials (the official reason is that abilities for them aren't space efficient so they focus on something a greater percentage of characters will use) but not unplayable once you figure it out. It has the misfortune of being the only other class in the game besides [[Monk]] to use 1d6x10 GP (35 average) for starting gold, even though unlike Monk they actually need to buy armor. The design work and balance for Kineticist is shaky enough they can vary wildly in [[Tier System\|tier]] depending on their element: While Aether is reasonably versatile and has excellent skillmonkey ability that let it function at Tier 3 (though one of the least powerful ones), some elements are so undersupported or singularly focused they can be tier 5.

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	==Pathfinder 2e==		==Pathfinder 2e==
	In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.		In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for [[Pathfinder Second Edition\|Pathfinder 2e]].

	In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many. The feats mentioned below grant new elemental attacks for each element.		In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many. The feats mentioned below grant new elemental attacks for each element. As ever, they have their classic Gather Energy and Elemental Blast attacks (now classified under unarmed attacks and freely able to swap between melee and ranged modes), though a later class ability gives them the ability to extract elemental energies from their enemies.

			Uniquely, the Kineticist's Inner Gate feature is a measure of how dedicated they are to certain elements as opposed to 1E's ability to just pick elemental foci as they leveled up.
	*The Dedicated Gate only allows the Kineticist to have one element to draw from, but in turn they get 3 first-level feats to power their element with.		*The Dedicated Gate only allows the Kineticist to have one element to draw from, but in turn they get 3 first-level feats to power their element with.
	*The Dual Gate allows the Kineticist to have two elements to draw from, and they choose 1 feat for each element.		*The Dual Gate allows the Kineticist to have two elements to draw from, and they choose 1 feat for each element.

1d4chan>GloriousGidofter: /* Pathfinder 2e */

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	In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.		In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.

	In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many.		In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many. The feats mentioned below grant new elemental attacks for each element.

	*The Dedicated Gate only allows the Kineticist to have one element to draw from, but in turn they get 3 first-level feats to power their element with.		*The Dedicated Gate only allows the Kineticist to have one element to draw from, but in turn they get 3 first-level feats to power their element with.

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	==Pathfinder 2e==		==Pathfinder 2e==
	In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.		In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.

			In the playtest version, the Kineticist can choose which elements they want to use, and how many.

			*The Dedicated Gate only allows the Kineticist to have one element to draw from, but in turn they get 3 first-level feats to power their element with.
			*The Dual Gate allows the Kineticist to have two elements to draw from, and they choose 1 feat for each element.
			*The Universal Gate allows the Kineticist to draw upon all elements, but they only get 1 feat. However, they can change this feat during their daily preparations.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

1d4chan>GloriousGidofter at 21:00, 8 August 2022

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	Remember how the opening said they weren't well supported in first party material? Well just as 3.5 [[Psionics]] were niche, a pain to figure out and under-supported by first party material (and [[Complete_Book_Series#Complete_Psionics\|what little there is often pure garbage]]), but had good support from third party publishers, so too does Kineticist. The class's dependence upon a major choice (element) at levels 1, 7 and 15 and smaller choices (wild talents and infusions) at every level but 7 and 15 while having almost no feat support mean the class actually has quite a bit of room to expand on. As such third third party publishers (Primarily Purple Duck Games and Legendary Games) have gone ''wild'' with the class, introducing new elements, both normal (light, sound, metal, mind, poison) and bizarre (time, blood), as well as tons of infusions, wild talents, archetypes and Kineticist specific feats.		Remember how the opening said they weren't well supported in first party material? Well just as 3.5 [[Psionics]] were niche, a pain to figure out and under-supported by first party material (and [[Complete_Book_Series#Complete_Psionics\|what little there is often pure garbage]]), but had good support from third party publishers, so too does Kineticist. The class's dependence upon a major choice (element) at levels 1, 7 and 15 and smaller choices (wild talents and infusions) at every level but 7 and 15 while having almost no feat support mean the class actually has quite a bit of room to expand on. As such third third party publishers (Primarily Purple Duck Games and Legendary Games) have gone ''wild'' with the class, introducing new elements, both normal (light, sound, metal, mind, poison) and bizarre (time, blood), as well as tons of infusions, wild talents, archetypes and Kineticist specific feats.

			==Pathfinder 2e==
			In August 2022's GenCon, Paizo announced their newest book, ''Rage of Elements''. The book promised many features, the most prominent one being the Kineticist class, reproduced for Pathfinder 2e.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==